/vr/ - Retro Games

The Wii. It's retro, deal with it.

>>6957835
Never ever zoomlet. Cope & Dilate.

>>6957830
Cube poopoos all over the 64 and steals its lunch money.

>>6957835
This.
>>6957860
Seethe.

Gamecube has a lot more to offer overall
N64 has it's charms though

>>6957830
Gamecube. I love the look of it, I can hook it up to my HDTV and I have so many games that I own for it. I still love my N64, but Gamecube has won me over.

>>6957835
The Wii is a piece of shit. It's not even retro since it's 7th gen.

N64 only had like 10 good games
GameCube had like 30

Both have a tiny amount of good games.
Both have the worst versions of multiplatters 99% of the time.
N64 has terrible framerates, Gamecube has the worst controller ever designed.
N64 has the Bomberman games so it wins.

>>6958264
That's not true about the multiplats, there was a fair amount of stuff that only came out on the GCN and PS2 and in that case the GCN was usually on top, like with Viewtiful Joe or Killer 7
and the fact that theyre literally still producing oem gamecube controllers shows that you're outspoken about that too

3 reasons why N64 wins:

- It has less shovelware from EA, THQ and other talentless western publishers.
- Nintendo's, Konami's, Hudson's and Treasure's games were better.
- Cartridges > discs

>>6957830
N64 is so much better. Most Nintendo games were rushed on Gamecube and it managed to have less third party support. I'm not counting shitty multiplat titles because Xbox is better in literally every instance.

>I'm not counting shitty multiplat titles
Because they would be better than the shit that was on the N64.

>>6958418
Even if they were they're still better on Xbox.

>>6957830
>what's better? the new one or the old one?
i have better memories with the cube. that n64 analog stick was always wonky

>>6958428
The Metal Gear Solid remake was better than anything Konami slung at the N64. Resident Evil 2 wasn't even made by Capcom on the N64. Capcom remade every Resident Evil including Code Veronica in Japan and Zero and 4 specifically for a Nintendo system. They also published Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 as well as made P.N.03. As neat as it would have been to have three Treasure games on N64, only Mischief Makers made it to the US. Bangai-O was ported to Dreamcast for a US release. Ikaruga was ported to GameCube for a US release. Unless you wanted to import and boot with utopia pirate internet disk, that was your Ikaruga option. Namco had one obscure Japanese game to their name on the N64. Nintendo had to license Ridge Racer, reprogram it for the N64, like Sega had to do with Capcom during the 16-bit generation, and slap the name Nintendo on it. Even if they were multi-platform, Soul Calibur 2 and Tales of Symphonia were very well done and handled in house by Namco. They also published Baten Kaitos. I kinda wish they hadn't made Star Fox. There wasn't even a Square game on the N64. I'm sure they invested so much into the hype of N64 and had to cut their losses when they realized FF7 could never fit on a cart. The GameCube got 4 player Crystal Chronicles with GBA gimmick. As both a Nintendo and Sega fan, it is incredibly sad that the GameCube actually got AM2s attention. They made ZERO FUCKING GAMES on the Dreamcast. Nintendo also had Sega's Amusement Vision do F-Zero. I'm biased, but I think it turned out very well. As for the rushed Nintendo GameCube games, Super Smash Brothers Melee is still the best. They also made a great decision in handing over Metroid to a US developer. We've seen Team Ninja's Other M and now the scraped Namco Metroid on the Switch. I will fully admit that Super Mario 64 and Ocarina of Time were superior. The GameCube did get Wind Waker and Twilight Princess. Also Animal Crossing.

>>6958523
>The Metal Gear Solid remake was better than anything Konami slung at the N64
That remake sucked and it wasn't even made by Konami.

>>6957830
Tough. I grew up with n64 and I have a lot of fondness for the games and the memories. That being said I think that Gamecube has the superior games

>>6957830
N64. Even though it had fewer games, they were so good that it could go face to face against the ps1. The GC on the other hand didn't have rare, so it had a lot of games that also came out on the other consoles and only a small amount of good games made by nintendo, but aside from smash bros all other franchises had better entries on the N64.

Gamecube has Pikmin which might be one of the top 10 games ever desu

>>6957830
Mario 64 > sunshine
zelda oot > zelda WW
zelda MM > zelda tp
star fox 64 > star fox assault
f-zero x > f-zero gx
waverace 64 > waverace blue storm
DK64 > DK jungle beat
mario party 1, 2 3 > mario party 4, 5, 6
1080 snowboarding > 1080 avalanche
turok 2 > turok evolution
mario kart 64 and diddy kong racing > mario kart DD
perfect dark > timesplitters 2
rayman 2 > rayman 3

>>6958150
Gamecube isn’t hd native, not is any retro Nintendo console, enjoy your lag

>>6958550
Yeah I guess they had Silicon Knights do it which was probably for the best because outside of Kojima's group Konami was done. That reminds me Eternal Darkness was really good too.

Reminder, Cubecucks:
Super Mario 64 > Sunshine
Paper Mario > TTYD
Mario Party 1~3 > 4~7
Mario Kart 64 > Double Dash
N64 Mario sports games > GC Mario sports games
Star Fox 64 > Assault
Donkey Kong 64 > Jungle Beat
Super Smash Bros > Melee
N64 Pokemon spin-offs > GC Pokemon spin-offs
Kirby Crystal Shards > Air Ride
F-Zero X > GX
Wave Race 64 > Blue Storm
1080 Snowboarding > Avalanche
Ocarina of Time+Majora's Mask > Wind Waker+Twilight Princess
GoldenEye/Perfect Dark > Metroid Prime 1&2

>>6958613
>GoldenEye/Perfect Dark > Metroid Prime 1&2
I was gonna let it slide until I saw this. You're 100% delusional.

>>6957830
Which one can you perfectly emulate? I rest my case.

>>6958576
Works just fine with my Carby. There's no lag. Enjoy being a seething poorfag who can't fork up $79.

>>6957830
I loved the cube. It had a handle, tiny discs, a far superior controller, but most importantly, it had that GameCube startup sequence.

I will say that the 64 was great in its own right. Since Microsoft hadn't released the Xbox yet, the n64 had a much broader selection of games.

Game Selection-wise: n64
(Fuck that controller)

Everything else: GameCube

>>6958281
While Gamecube was and is still is completely off my radar as even existing, this is completely false because not only was like 25% of the N64 library from Acclaim, but THQ DID publish on the N64.
That said, the N64 has the least shovelware of any successful console because it was too cost prohibitive for the bottom of the barrel publishers to manufacture for.

>>6957830
N64 had better games but I appreciated the power of the gamecube.

N64 had the better Mario's, Zelda's, and a mainline Kirby but just about everything else on the console fucking sucked

>>6958613
>Super Smash Bros > Melee
lol hell no. Melee was an improvement in every single way, Smash 64 is slow and clunky as shit in comparison. Literally no reason to go back to it aside from curiosity or nostalgia

>>6958619
Rare's shooters had much better gameplay than Retro's. Fuck off with your lock-on aiming shit.

>>6959630
The new characters they added to Melee were fucking cringe. If I see another Marth or Sheik tranny...
Also, they ruined my boy Kirby.

>>6957830
I consider both to be equally bad

>>6959614
Banjo...

>>6957830
N64 shits all over the Cube. None of the first party NGC games are better than the N64 ones. Multiplayer titles are also better in the N64. The only thing the Cube has going for it is a larger amount of shovelware third party games.
In short
Ocarina of Time
Majoras Mask
Super Mario 64
Banjo Kazooie
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Kart 64
Mario Tennis
Perfect Dark
Goldeneye
Star Fox 64
Wave Race 64
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2
Super Smash Bros
Conkers Bad Fur Day
1080°

Shit all over any of the games released for the cube.

Forget console war bull, lets post the games games on both systems

>>6959818
>None of the first party NGC games are better than the N64 ones
Pikmin

>Tfw hate myself for selling my gamecube even though I have a wii

It hurts bros. Fucking 13 year old me just wanted a wii so bad and needed money and I justified it since it could play gamecube games...

>>6959818
I'd rather take tony hawk 3 over all of those on the n64 desu, even if the cube is shit the n64 is just a drag.

>>6959940
This but selling my SNES/Genesis/NES stuff for more N64 stuff.

In hindsight, 4th gen was so much better than the trainwreck that was 5th gen.

>>6959858
Shitty Dungeon Keeper ripoff for retarded babies.
While I'm at it...
>Metroid Prime
Shitty System Shock ripoff for retarded babies.
>Luigi's Mansion
Shitty Resident Evil ripoff for retarded babies.

>>6962025
>Pikmin
>Shitty Dungeon Keeper ripoff for retarded babies.
>Metroid Prime
>Shitty System Shock ripoff for retarded babies.

>>6958264
I myself argue that the GCN controller is the *best* ever designed, but games have to be designed for it. Each button is a different size or shape, which both improves muscle memory and discoverability, and allocates differing spatial weights to different functions. Games like The Wind Waker show this off - big action button, little item buttons, attack button right under your thumb. Camera controls on the C-stick, which doesn't have a mushroom top, indicating it's not intended to be a main movement stick, plus your thumb is a little more dextrous that way for small camera movements. D-pad out of the way, since we're on a 3D console, and a clicky Z-button because you're just turning Z-targeting on and off anyway. Shoulder buttons could be less forceful to click, but other than that, the GCN has the best controller ever designed.

>>6957835
Not yet

>>6959818
>Donkey Kong 64
>Perfect Dark
>Goldeneye
>Conkers Bad Fur Day
Those games are absolute shit

>>6959940
Why? The Wii can do just about everything the GameCube can

>>6957830
>Mario
Sm64>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sunshine
100 points for n64
>Zelda
MM>WW>OoT>>>>>>>>Tp
Point for N64
>Metroid
Obviously Gamecube
>DK
64 shits over Gamecube this time
>Kirby
64 at least had an actual kird game even if it was shit compared to SS
>Starfox
No contest 64 wins
>Mario kart
DD > 64
>Smash
Melee >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 64
100 points for gamecube
>Banjooooo the bear and based conker
Well the gamecube had........ Fucking animal crossing lmao
>Paper mario
TTYD >>>>>> 64
>Pokemon
XD Col>PS 1&2
>F zero
GX >>>>>>>>> X

This is irrefutable

>>6959940
The Wii is literally just a better Gamecube with Nintendont. Using that you can run GCN games at Wii clock speeds which means stuff like Super Mario Sunshine at 60FPS is possible. The only thing the Wii can't do is use the Gameboy Player for obvious reasons. Besides you're gonna want to pirate Gamecube games in the year 2020 with the utterly ridiculous prices dumb redditfags are paying for them.

>>6962108
Do you really want to make your GCN games non-retro? If you play a game at a framerate different than the developer intended, you can't really say you beat them. You can't beat frame-perfect games if you get twice as many frames.

>>6962125
Sunshine is definitely a more enjoyable game at 60fps. It was going to run at that originally too but the game was rushed as shit.

>>6962069
Hard disagree. F-Zero X has nice, clean visuals compared to GX's eye rape. It has a unique comic book aesthetic that GX's ugly 3d renders ruin. And it has an awesome rocking soundtrack that not only slays GX's techno crap but makes a joke of the Playstation's supposed
"superior CD Audio" while it is at it. Nintendo's best game of all time on any platform.
I'd play GX over the original F-Zero though.

>>6957830
>what you like more? Dog shit or wolf shit?

>>6962108
As a Sega fanboy who uses "Nintendon't" a lot, I disagree completely. Gamecube is way better than the Wii. I am forced to navigate with the Wii-mote in order to access my Gamecube games, instead of using the Gamecube controller directly. It really pisses me off to the point where I ended up giving my Wii away to my mother, since she wanted to buy Wii-Fit for it.