/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
450ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Deadline: November 10th
Rules: >>6902484
MAPEDIT: https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Discord: https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu

=== NEWS ===

[10-1]DWELL: 10 map episode for Q1 was released
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=781

[10-1]DBP-28: Fear and Loathing released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/117191-dbp28-fear-and-loathing/

[9-30]Trenchbroom updated to version v2020.2
https://github.com/TrenchBroom/TrenchBroom/releases/tag/v2020.2

[9-26] Arcane Dimensions 1.8 to include monster randomizer for vanilla
https://twitter.com/SimsOCallaghan/status/1308441372895178758

[9-24] Sigma-X demo released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113488-sigma-x-5-maps-demo-version-is-out/

[9-23] Aleph One 1.3 released
https://github.com/Aleph-One-Marathon/alephone/releases/tag/release-20200830

[9-22] UT patch v469a released
https://github.com/OldUnreal/UnrealTournamentPatches/releases/tag/v469a

[9-22] Supplice is going standalone
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2191397

[9-22] REKKR released for Bethesda ports (marking the first TC for them)
https://slayersclub.bethesda.net/en/article/6DwHg8z3MyajHvx0rVmsEi

[9-21] Microsoft acquires Zenimax (including Bethesda & id)
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2020/09/21/welcoming-bethesda-to-the-xbox-family/

[9-21] Woof! 2.3.0 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/

[9-21] Doom II: 25 Years on Earth: One Year Late edition has been uploaded to idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/ph_25yoe

[9-21] New Arcane Dimensions version teased.
https://twitter.com/BafuBal/status/1307445748401876992

[9-20] Demo for Ashes: Afterglow is out.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612

[9-19] (Saturn homebrew) HELLSLAVE SAGE 2020
https://sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/hellslave-project-z-treme.724/

=== PREVIOUS ===

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beefy chunklets

>"I think I did some of my best mapping ever on DOOM but everyone knows DOOM II is the better game because of the double-barrel."
-John Romero

Is he right here?

>>6949693
Doom 1 maps are better overall, but supershotgun does add a lot.

>>6949693
No. Doom 2 is the better game for the expanded monster roster and it becoming the foundation for a fuckload of amazing mods and WADs. The Super Shotgun was just icing on the cake.

>>6949693
DOOM II is uhhh such a bigger, badder, better version of DOOM

>>6949693
Mods basically pick up the Doom 2 level design slack. Truthfully, I still prefer the more simple and predictable enemies in the first game, but that's likely because I've played way more of Ultimate Doom. I blame it on the fact that it's way easier to pick up and finish and 8-9 level episode than a 32 level megawad.

The kids are alright

>>6949752
That's a nice way to handle the Keens

>>6949665
i think its time to update the Quake Pastebin with the new stuff
Spiked surpassed ol quakespasm
Many ancient Q2 stuff for single player was found and posted here, and Kmquake2 and Yamagi seems to be the good to go ports these days
Ioquake3 is dead, quake3e seems to be better, also it would be nice it RTCW was included too and if not a Heretic hexen pastebin

>>6949765
wait a minute, those textures...

>>6949752
CUTE!

>>6949770
here, but the shores mod link is dead along with all of atomicgamer

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/93627-knee-deep-in-the-dead-mod-for-quake-2/

>>6949752
you know what, you are not bad for a 2hu weirdo

>sprite toilets
fucking COWARDS

>>6949752
What is this?

Hey, Judge Dredd nonce. Did you fix the Lawgiver sprite yet you miserable cunt?

>>6949796
Nah, I had more important things to do, pic related.

>>6949752
What a wholesome robit :)

>>6949802
ARRRH ITS SO SHITE

>>6949809
Of course it's shite, it's a shiter.

The Retail Body + the Q2Test head
>pic

>>6949752
Cute attack

>>6949802
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQL7a27Tq4

>>6949814
No the Lawgiver is.

>>6949816
I think you might have missed the joke, friend.

>>6949835
Of course he did, he's a bleedin norf.

>>6949815

>>6949914
Actually a pretty neat thing...

>>6949914
What if his regular attack was just a rocket, but the homing attack is another revanent?

>>6949914
i lel'd
>>6949924
i think the regular attack should spawn lost souls

>>6949930

>>6949930
I just want a fuck load of revanents on screen.

>>6949930
What if projectile turned into lost soul when it hits the geometry?

>/vr/ likes Quake 2 now
what happened?

>>6949924
What about a revenant that shoots dogs that hunt you and bees come out of their mouths?

>>6949936
ur a genius anon!

>>6949816
But wait, there's more!

>>6949950
Tom Hall would be proud.

>>6949950
this is neat

In GZDoom is it possible to reset the map with a button like in PrBoom?

>>6949979
bind a key to "map *" iirc

>>6949693
Doom 1 is the better game
Doom 2 has the better toolbox

>>6949914
Leaked Plutonia 3 footage

>>6949919
Why

>>6949984
It works, thanks.

>>6950001
i get this joke

does anyone know any "floating island" style wads, or something similar to doom 64's "in the void" map? i love that aesthetic.

>>6950021
D:

>>6950021

Desided to try out Boom for the first time and now I'm just making translucent effects all day.

>>6949789
THAT'S MORE LIKE IT

>>6949765
>RTCW was included too and if not a Heretic hexen pastebin
then make em

>>6950091
i deal with quakes anon, we need a real RTCW anon and the Heretic/Hexen anons to make this

I'm considering adding an episode select mode to Doom 2 to make it play more like Doom 1.

>>6950149
Forgot pic.

>>6950149
>>6950153
Go for it, it would probably make the game flow better overall.

>>6950149
make each level its own episode

>>6949950
an entire 2 frames on that gun

>>6950173
Wrong. The flash is its own frame :^)

>>6949950
Oh, that's supposed to be a gun. Every screenshot you've posted I thought it was some kind of weird magnifying glass.

Here's the first submission for 450ML /vr/. Give it a go an let me know what you think! More details in the README.

Map Name : Shafted 2
Author : SmoothSkin

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O4gRomvle1ovlJwDeWmImmlESwQRcIds/view?usp=sharing

>>6950191
But it is - it's a magnifying glass gun. It shoots lenses.

Am I retarded for not understanding the significance of the "450ml" part of the Blood project? The others had names fitting to the restrictions (2048, 900 minutes) and it would have been more fitting to have the amount of litres in the human body (which according to Google is around 4500ml).

there were some jokes about doomguy being the first let's player because of the hud face during gameplay
in reality, doomguy is the original vtuber

>>6950218
>(which according to Google is around 4500ml).
Holy shit, for a small woman maybe. As a man, I'd need to weigh no more than 60kg for that volume. Usually men have around 70-80ml/kg bw and women around 60-70.

>>6950224
which minecraft mod is that?

>>6950218
4500ML is probably what the anon who suggested the name meant, I guess were rolling with the typo for the time being. It will probably be changed in that case to add the missing 0.

>>6950187
so one frame on the flash
making it still 2 for the gun

>>6949789
what mapset?
are the weapons part of it too?

Hell yeah. Time for the weekend.

>>6950237
It's not the weekend yet, but okay.

>>6949671
Reservoir Stroggs, my latest singleplayer map for Quake 2, is hereby RELEASED! :3

It has the highest number of Stroggs in a map I have made, and is perhaps rather balls-to-the-walls.

You can load it down from here:
http://quakeulf.suxos.org/3d/maps/prepare.zip (2.0mb)

>>6949934
>>6949930
>>6949865
>>6949815
Hate to be that gay anon, but that looks much, much worse.

>>6950234
DBP28, Fear and Loathing. The weapons are part of it, it's a Doom 3 themed conversion.

>>6950237

>>6950243
I almost wonder if it would make more sense to have the player hold a lantern or glow stick or something since it's an area light, not a point light.

>>6950264
ew

>>6950229
>>6950218
As the anon who suggested the name, 450ml is the approximate amount of blood in one unit. I'm thinking it should be changed to 400 or 500 though.

https://twitter.com/ViellaIce/status/1309971340296937484
Cool Archvile fanart i saw.

.... i swear those FUCKING DOOM threads....

>>6950237
Man, those Jalapeño slices make me realize I haven't cooked a chili in ages, I need to amend that.

>>6950264
>>6950237
this looks like someone puked and shat in a box at the same time

>>6950292
Dude. I made one recently from this video that two spice loving Texans congratulated me on from here. https://youtu.be/nuuS_uBpRd4

Anyway, getting back on track. In you guyses opinion, what is the arch vile? He seems both the least human (not really a human skeleton), isn't really a traditional demon either. He almost seems like he's an alien from far away potentionally from a different universe.

>>6950307
they are all aliens... from hell. that's doom's shtick

>>6950314
In the original canon, they're demons though.

>>6950242
The vanilla Q2 monster head textures and all of the environment were a literal Downgrade from the Q2TEST ones
also Carmack wanted Q2 running with higher res textures, but his plans went down due to timmy's autism and Hardware limitations of its time, which led even to this http://www.chebmaster.com/q2facelift/
Even Quake 3 had higher res textures during its development betas but had to churn it down because Gaming was still hostage to 3dfx
Lost arenas uses all of the leaked beta assets, even the cut chainsaw which originally was the chainfist for Q2: ground zero with more details

my wish is that someone could take the cut stuff from both games and even the old screenshots and news from 96 and 97 to make a Q1 and Q2 the way id did.
Q1 being more in line with romero's idea but keeping what it became though AD is pretty much this, and Q2 using the cut assets and being more in line with the og concept of guns of navaronne and 80's til 90's sci fi horror-action movies like Aliens, T2 and total recall.
i always felt that the space satelite secret map in vanilla Q2 was probabbly what was left of what would be the Makron's unit, which you chase him through the asteroid belt until the arena, since the Widow boss in Ground zero felt like a better Bossfight, and Q4 gave justice to it

>>6950317
in the original sense of the word a demon is a benign being, but let's not get carried away

>>6950206
Was there a Shafted 1?

>>6950271
I agree with you, we should change the name to 500ml. As long as there's no objections (I don't see why there would be), I'll change the name.

t. project lead

>>6950360
Actually, nevermind that question, I remember you posted the first version on here some time ago. Should've played it/looked at the readme before posting.

>>6950360
Yeah.

http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=maps&id=619

I figured this map deserved a re release since I added new areas and completely re-balanced Bloodbath and Singleplayer. Pretty much everything has been touched up and improved.

what are some cool megawads or gameplay mods to play during halloween season? doesn't have to be outright spooky, mainly looking for really dark, goth and edgy themes

time to make a Half Life pastebin

>>6950329
in fact
>Makron Unit
>7maps, but imagined as "If Romero got the chance to do them since he had a hardon at the game, and carmack told tim willits to fuck off"
>1st 3 maps are you chasing him at stroggos moon, where private joker will be in Reckoning mission pack, final map is the warehouse which you accidentally activates the Makron clone who he ends facing it, Secret is The Phalanx with limited ammo.
>The other 4 maps are a gauntlet where you face the previous bosses, but now they are using the unused animations and AI
>1st map is a Supertank Labyrinth, supertanks may shoot guided rockets backwards, Grenades from their tracks and turn FAST, there are 3 of them who receives backup from medics and gunners.
>Second Map its the Flying boss gauntlet but now he has Chainguns, flies faster and its 3 of them helped by kamikaze technicians who explodes when their health is low also unused animations, you may ignore them, or trap all of them them by sending airstrikes from phobos ship which means staying in the open, map inspired by Romero's tech gone bad and a certain Douk3d map at the moon.
>Third map is Jorg showdown, its full of gunners, Parsites, and medics as his backup, jorg dies but is teleported to the Makron's arena where he taunts you
>The Final Map, its Makron's Arena, its a larger version of the final showdown map, which you not only faces the makron who taunts you by sending his Royal Guard who now uses with frequency the melee stomp attack, which makes point blank shotguns a no go, but now he has shields, teleport, Stomp jumps and may become invincible Layout inspired by the Arkan maps

What are the greatest ZDoom maps? Preferably with mainly classic Doom gameplay. It seems like all the best maps that require ZDoom are for TC's like Hellforged.

>>6950386
Doom 64 and PsyDoom.

>>6950074
This made me chuckle when I passed it

is there such thing as a "multigenre" doom mod or tc?
like it can be like traditional doom but it also changes to a 2d platformer or top down game or something?

how come 2048 starts in different maps depending on which sourceport I use?

prboom starts in a cell
gzdoom starts in an orange map filled with corpses

>>6950441
oh nevermind I'm retarded It was 2048 extra

>>6950237
>>6950264
Damn, makes me hungry for some delicious sloppa

>>6950386
Preacher, Mayhem 2019, Unloved

Reposting this from previous thread
>Has anyone made something similar to Sigil's use of the evil eye prop but instead make it an interactable prop, almost like a replacement for the hanging Keen actor?
>Like, shooting the sprite causes the eye to pop and the green energy symbol to either vanish or even turn red
>I can see an issue with technically linking certain sectors/linedefs/etc to an actor because i'm not sure if you can do something like "kill Baron 1, door 1 opens, kill Baron 2, door 2 opens etc"
>I say this because of the Mancubi and Arachnotrons having specific death tags for map 7
>I wonder if anyone has started to use the prop like how Romero used it but for their wads
>Someone did a video about Doom textures having a "visual language" and even brought up Quake textures and that one lion door switch in map 18
Said video in question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6arDCzmhONY
He should have brought up the secret shootable wall switch in map 28

>>6950021
oh fug :-DDD

>>6950241
Great! Should it work with Yamagi?

Looks like the doom 64 monster resurrection project just died a fiery, violent death. Shame, it looked promising.

>>6950774
what a little fucking bitch lmao

>>6950774
What a faggot.
Irony is that Fucking Mark was right about this nigger.

>>6949865
>>6949815
*puke*

>>6950774
who touched him inappropriately?

>>6950021
Blake Stone did it first

>>6950264
this is nutritional Bolshevism >:(

>>6950812
>tripfag

>>6950829
*pukes all over you*

>>6950774
Quick run down?

>>6950819
Scalliano, apparently
>>6950837
Autistic baby rage is the only thing I can think of

So alf is desperate to the point of sending of of his butt buddies evade their bans to shit post all over /vr/ again against this thread with the romero baits, and create a tripfag to shit at 3d fps games again?

is he still anal that Blizzard Delayed that garbage Xpac for wow, and Diablo 4's last news is nothing but garbage?

>>6950837
we dont know, but its doomworld so its politics related like what happened to Nexussites.

>>6949815
Even machine learning can't create new detail from nothing, just guess...and unnecessarily amplify imperfections and noise.

>>6950843
And you're no better with the /pol/bait.

>>6949930
>>6949934
>>6949946
>highres textures
>lowres geometry

>>6949930
>>6949934
>>6949946
>highres textures
>lowres geometry

>>6950853
https://twitter.com/Quake/status/986612929326927873/photo/1
well strogg are ugly deformed mofos
if people wants handsome enemies, unreal 2 is over there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGGP89BtM8A

plus i saw the concept art, the Q2TEST (pic) stuff is more accurate to it than Vanilla, since FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASONPossibly tim willits, it removed all of the detail of said textures, and its kinda impressive how this model did justice to it.
And again, Q2 was made with high res in mind, carmack wanted it, but hardware limitations + development issues led to the retarded compression and blurry filtering as it became known until cheb fixed it years later.
Even the fucking manual monster screenshots has more detail than vanilla.

>>6950895
And i'll continue posting and you can't do nothing about it, dicksucker of alf
THIS IS RETRO 90's FPS THREAD, there is 3 GLORIOUS quake games in it along with all idtech goodness, chunky high res or idtech 3 good stuff.

you are nothing but a fucking zooming tourist insisting on trolling and kill this thread with shitposting because the jannies only pops up here when there are /pol/ baits made by your gang like >>6950879

>>6950916
>DISAGREE WITH MY SHITTY BAIT AND UR DA BOOGEYMAN OOGA BOOGA EEK OOK

Slit your fucking wrists.

>>6950916
Not a zoomer, not a tourist and it still looks bad m8

>>6950920
>>6950938
Yes yes continue on, the timer is easy to spot, no one here cares besides you and your fag family.
now go back to /v/ and /vm/ with another "half life, system shock, quake 1,2,3 sucks" faggotry before the janitors bans all of you again for evading bans and pushing goalposts.

>>6950853
>>6950916
and this is the old enforcer skin from Q2test vs the retail one

>>6950916
Talk is cheap. Where are the normal maps, the physically based lighting and the 4k displacements?

>>6950945
I'd post a screenshot disproving it but I know your ass would just accuse me of photoshopping it. You're subhuman just like him.

>>6950916
Quake 2 is a below average game.

Try all you want alf, you have no power here.

>>6950951

>>6950956
And everyone here knows how easy it is to you and your fag friends to use VPN to evade bans.

those neural upscale shit look bad in general desu, and alot of them fuck up with detail and destroy text in some images as well. if you like them it's okay but accusing others of being mental ill because they don't like them is a bit much honestly.

>>6950956
all me btw

>>6950963
I have nothing to do with that cunt. Keep making accusations and see if no one throws you a boot party you fucking rape magnet.

>>6949914
lmao

>>6950956
Wash the cum out of your mouth you slack-jawed tourist

>>6950976
>TOUUUUUWEEEEEEEEEETHT


Did your dad touch you in a no-no place when you were little?

(You) (You) (You)

Can we talk about Doom? What's the one weapon you'd add to Doom II's arsenal, if you could?

I think I'd want something for clearing corners, with real limited ammo. Maybe a bouncy plasma-based grenade or something.

>>6950969
there are tons of models for it and everyone here played and discussed about it a lot last year
https://upscale.wiki/wiki/Model_Database#Pixel_Art
even the neural upscales that came from it turned out good since the ones who did it at doomworld has access to Nvidia's gamework Ai tools.

but again, no one may talk about ANYTHING related to quake recently without alf and their faggots pops up here and derails the entire thread with /pol/ resetera baits or pure weaponized autism against it.
A year ago we would be talking about any quake game, mapping and so on with no retarded shitposters, but now that the gates of hell were opened.
it became impossible.

even this thread in general, it took days, if not a week until it reached its post limit, but now its literally on /vg/ levels of speed, 1 or 2 days max because of the shitposter gang.
Its tiresome

>>6950916
Of all the Quakes, why pick the second-worst one?

>>6951013
see this what im talking about >>6951016
and some of them are even fucking tourists fed by discord and reddit memes

>>6951023
And you keep enabling them. Report and move on.

>>6951023
I'm longer here than you are. I grantee it.

>>6950368
Much better

Lets talk about Doom instead of further derailing the thread. Is anybody interested in a weekly community co-op session on Zandro? Playing with you guys is fun but I have to figure out all the serverside shit if I wanna host it myself.

>>6951007
Some sort of in-between of the Chaingun and Plasma Rifle. CG is a hose that take upwards of a hundred bullets just to clear a room. PR is a great, but it's a debate of to use it to end fights quickly or save ammo for the BFG. Something like a semi-auto mid-long range weapon with a reload to discourage close-range use could work, maybe.

Quake 2 sucks

>>6951013
i think its better to ignore them then to feed onto the fire. responding to bait kills genuine discussion and shid. still not a fan of upscale stuff, making the detial messy is just the thing i can't stand lol.

>>6951037
>Is anybody interested in a weekly community co-op session on Zandro?
Yeah sure. Could be fun.

>>6951051
But that would be rational, which is banned on 4chan.

>>6951037
Count me in

Friendly reminder
Report and Ignore

>>6951051
NP, also i don't mind if anyone picks it and "fixes it" later on.
its something that im doing for fun, for a game that i know, and i want to be free for anyone.
if my cd driver wasnt dead i would be posting some ancient stuff that i have saved here from an PC essentials cd from 98.

>>6951098
also something that i was going to ask before alf and his gang came here to shitpost again
Does someone knows what happened to the guy who was porting QC Q1 weapons back to Quake 1?

the nailgun looked great on it

Quake 2 sucks Half Life sucks CS sucks Goldeneye sucks Serious Sam sucks Perfect Dark sucks SCIV sucks SOTN sucks OOT sucks RE4 sucks Yoshi Island sucks RE4 sucks FFVII sucks SM64 sucks NIGHTS sucks Super Metroid sucks

>>6951037
Do it, anon. I'm sure people will play. I would.

>>6951098
the phalanx is a cool weapon

>>6951037
some anon suggested that months ago for doom and quake games, and with weekly polls for it to chose which map and mod for fun.

>>6949802
>>6949950

>>6951180

>>6951186
Got tired of sitting on these. I can tweak angles too if need be

>>6951169
im surprised how this turned out good compared to the old gigapixel one
not only it kept the pallete but also it enhanced the colors of the most noticeable details

>>6951180
>>6951186
not him but nu dredd lawgiver is garbage, and the old one, and the stallone one looked better and in line with the comic.
also for Judge anon
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/judge-dredd-lawgiver-mk2-c7cad4cc8f2145c3ac0d90373c7a93c7

>>6949789
>not doing spirte toilets so you can have interactive sounds and destructable sprites

>>6951205
>dooly noted
Heheheheh

>>6951195

>>6951203
>>6951195
Honestly, these both look like shit from a "Doom" perspective. I hate to say it, but if you want to do a decent Lawgiver sprite, it should be angled so you can see all the details on the side. There's virtually nothing on the back or top.

>>6950000
BASED QUAD MACHINE

>>6951139
Based

>>6951220

>>6951139
you forgot Legend of zelda you prick

Has anyone made a trident weapon (like the Serpent Riders' sign) in Heretic?

>>6951139
You put RE4 twice you fat little mud

>>6949865
>the holes in my chest are my weak point

>>6951180
Two magazines and one barrel. No thanks.

>>6951306
>>6951331
All those games are shit, cope.

>>6951386
I'm not coping I'm just surprised you didn't add the damn majoras mask

This is Archie, the greatest enemy from any video game. Say something nice about him.

This took way longer than it should have.

>>6951602
Hello, Archie. It was brave of you to come. When did you first know you had a problem with alcohol?

>>6951602
Really lights my fire. Warms my heart. He's a bit hot headed in the heat of the moment but he's got that spark.

>>6951613
amazing, now find a way to monetize it

>mfw balancing playing wads and mods and trying to learn Trenchbroom/Doombuilder

>>6951613
Got it.

>>6951669
Damn put that shit up for download man.

Google's failing me at the moment. Are there any mods that put proper "reload" animations into Doom 64? Actual Doom 64, not Retribution, as good as that is. Wanna get a vanilla-ish experience, but these weapons feel so goddamn stiff.

>>6951683
There are, but fucked if I can remember them.

>>6951683
Deathmatch Simulator added reload to the 64 SSG

>>6951669
noice

>>6950853
Sure it can. If you teach it to do it.

>>6951180
>>6951186
>>6951195
These look cool, buuut.... There's a reason I have the Lawgiver Mk 2 and not any other. Don't get me wrong, I like the Dredd 3D gun definitely better than the Stallone one, which looks like shit imo, but as >>6951223 said, it looks boring from behind (not saying the ones I made look better, but I made them years ago just have SOMETHING), but that's a problem a lot of guns on Realm667 have, too, so it's just personal taste of mine.
That said, if you can make sprites from them, I can see if I can add them as some kind of optional skin, like Smooth Doom does.

>>6951203
Funny, that was the first model I worked with, but I found the scope to be too bulky, also there's no lens in it. The artist probably thought it was only a knob.
The model I *actually* used was this one https://grabcad.com/library/lawgiver-ii-1 and it seems to be based pretty closely on this diagram. I had no idea how to used Blender and kinda fudged my way through there posing the model in a way I deemed okay.

I say it basically everytime, but I suck at spriting and almost anything art-related. So if somebody wants to try their hands on this, feel free to do so. I can't compensate you in a monetary way, but of you'll get full credit for it.
I also just realized that I don't have any "regular" weapon pickups anymore anyway, so making the sprites Build-style angled shouldn't be a problem anymore, and you'd see more of the gun.

P.S.: And I know that my Lawgiver Mk2 doesn't have all the function the original one has; mine is more of a portmanteau between different ones, that's one artistic liberty I took.

>>6951795
As for project updates: I have done some work on the codebase and also started implementing custom skyboxes Enjay ripped some time ago.

>>6951802
Radical.

>>6951683
I played on an N64 server on Zandro yesterday that was using better reload animations, I couldn't tell you which mod uses it but it does exist.

>>6949752
You're alright, young witcher

>>6951307
Carnage Galore 3 had D'Sparil's staff

I'm giving the Master Levels a try for the first time, how do you guys think they compare to the stock Doom 2 levels?

>>6951613
>spacestation

Don't you mean the space port?

>>6951848
Unironically worse then vanilla doom 2

>>6951848
They're okay for 95 standards, but nothing remarkable. Dr Sleep was the best mapper

>>6951848
Most of them are okay, but Cranium's maps are abhorrent garbage (aside from the Bloodsea Keep, that one is decent). Fuck teeth.wad, but blktower.wad, and, most importantly, fuck mephisto.wad.

Jesus christ I went through the blaster and the minigun how many fucking kleers are there?

>>6951952
more than you can possibly imagine
welcome to serious sam

>>6951952
> loaded with rockets, grenades, and cannonballs
use 'em

>>6951848
Don't like 'em.

Can't believe I woke up to this fucking thing.

>>6951976
Can I get a quick rundown?

>>6951976
Sargy Marky has been flagging random shit as monsters all over his mods, which causes all sorts of funky intercompatibility issues, all because he unironically uses "enhanced" night vision and wants all that to be highlighted by it (which honestly sounds hella stupid).

>>6951980
meant to reply to >>6951978

>>6951976
On top of that, what he says, that the ISMONSTER flag is the only reliable way without breaking zandro compat, is a load of bollocks. The CORPSE flag does this too on both ports, and won't have unintended side effects like these.

It's still a hack, anyway.

I CANT INTO ST50
HELB

>your dad never used his 9mm discount for your diapers as a baby

This is right up there with Carmacks story about using termite to steal apple II computers

>>6951802
heres the dredd audioplays. Though.... yeah, the quality stinks. These are from the early 00's so....

http://www.mediafire.com/file/k04ybjqz5hibchv/Big_Finish_-_Judge_Dredd_Books_01_-_18.rar/file

>>6951613
How about some more creative names? Doom 1 didn't call its episodes Moonbase, Moonbase 2, and Hell

>>6952019
That's fanfiction tier mayn. When fucking with something like this, you want to be as objective as possible.

>>6951848
They range from passable, to mediocre, to actually pretty bad.

>>6952008
This screams MASSIVE RED FLAG but he made cool videogame maps so it's ok.

>>6952037
What did she mean by this?

>>6951848
John Anderson > Jim Flynn > Tom Mustaine = Tim Willits > Sverre André Kvernmo > Christen Klie
Chris K's maps honestly felt like 1994 maps, not 1995. Sverre's maps are a bit annoying and nowhere near as good as his Eternal Doom maps he made a few years later.

>>6952037
His biological dad, who was mostly deadbeat and absent during his upbringing, that's a red flag to you? I'd say his step-dad would be a bigger red flag than anything, considering how abusive he was, but consider the fact that Romero isn't criminal lowlife going in and out of prisons with a mile long sheet of misdemeanors and felonies, he actually made something out of himself.

You can see where his upbringing reflects in some of his personality flaws, but it also speaks a lot for his character that he persevered and would go on to do great things, even at a pretty young age.

>>6949665

How do I get DOSBox to run Quake without slowing down? Is it something in my doxbox config file?

The game runs perfectly smooth at 320x200 resolution but even at 320x240 (the correct aspect ratio), the game slows down during some fights; the game practically runs in slo-mo at 640x480

>>6952152
the short answer is that you don't.
you're running a software renderer through a layer of emulation, even WinQuake without said layer will likely slow down at 1280x1024.
any specific reason you're running DOSQuake? have you tried WinQuake or the software versions of TyrQuake & MarkV?

>"If you've never played Doom through MS-DOS, on a i486, using a Roland SC-55 chip; then you've never played Doom."

How do you respond?

>>6952152
it probably shouldn't slow down at 320x240 though, what kind of potato are you running? you could search for ancient tweak guides: setting d_mipscale above 1, changing subdivision and so on

>>6952224
*violent shitting and farting noises*

>>6952224
I'd like two cheeseburgers with fries and a medium soda to go, thanks.

IT'S FUCKING SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. POST WHATEVER MAPS/MODS/GRAPHICS YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

>>6950753
I think so but have not tested it.

>>6952224
I think I did when I was a kid.

>>6952276
I still can't get baton sprites in so I've been working on the crate weapon overhaul. A lot of weapons are gonna get buffed and improved, and this shit is gonna use ammo.

>>6952276
I made my first contribution to my own community project. Also made combined icon of sin patches with unused ones to make icon of sin on transparent background to be used when necessary.

>>6952276
just kinda fucking about

Can I use a Line_Mirror special on a doublesided linedef? I am trying to make a trap that involves a fake mirror, but I can't get it to work without having to resort to portals.

>>6952276
Learning Trenchbroom while trying to make an arena Serious Sam style map with Quoth entities. Lots of fun.

>>6952276
Mapping.

>>6952276
I should be starting my maps already, but here I am doing a bunch of (not very important) graphics tweaks.

>>6952217
>any specific reason you're running DOSQuake?
I failed to mention, I am running DOSBox pixel perfect, a fork of DOSBox that uses integer scaling. I am currently replaying episode one in normal DOSBox to see if there is any difference. So far, it slows down in 640x480 just as it did in pixel perfect, but I have to keep playing to get to see if it slows down in 320x240 as it only happens in specific sections.
And to answer your question, I just love how it looks. It's probably a combination of nostalgia, and Playing the Game How It Was Meant to Be Played™. Ever since some anon told me about integer scaling a while ago, I play every old game I can using integer scaling. MarkV does a great job of recreating the old look with its 320x240 resolution that fits the entire screen similar to Crispy Doom's widescreen rendering, but it still doesn't look as crisp as Quake with integer scaling.
>have you tried WinQuake or the software versions of TyrQuake & MarkV?
I think I tried WinQuake and I couldn't get it to run, but I was running MarkV's WinQuake executable to get it to run in software rendering mode before I learned how to run the game in DOSBox pixel perfect
>>6952226
>what kind of potato are you running?
It's a gaming laptop that's like ~4 years old so it shouldn't be that.
> setting d_mipscale above 1
:( I'd rather not reduce the quality even further but I'll test this out

>>6952224
What about the grognards that didn't have SC-55's at the time? They didn't play Doom either?

>>6952224
>CHIP
SC-55 is an external module using many chips, brainlet.

>>6952365
And that's why Anon is working at McDonald's.

>>6952224
"Shut up, Autisimo" and you go on with your business

>>6952341
actually the good spot to test performance is right at the start, looking at the difficulty selection. it's showoff-y and uses a lot of textures - one of the first places you'd see a RAM warning with d_mipscale below 1 for example.

anyway, I'm not getting any slowdowns on 320x240, and my CPU is like a decade old. my dosbox.conf leaves all CPU stuff at defaults.
running MarkV in 4:3, should be possible to make it look identical to vanilla. WinQuake can probably be run with dgVoodoo.

>>6950237
damn that looks tasty
>boomer monster
You're good.

>>6952276
Tried my hand at improving the Lawgiver sprites, but I think going angled is ultimatively probably the better way.
Also started furnishing the mall level.

>>6952387
My game will slow down in the difficulty selection in 640x480 but not 320x240; the slow-downs occur during "monster heavy encounters" (a relative term) and seems to occur more frequently when using the super-nailgun, though it could just be me saving that weapon for when I need it the most. The slowdowns only occurred a handful of times all through episode one but it does still bother me especially because it makes the game easier. I wonder why it slows down rather than drops the framerate like I'd expect; probably a result of emulation
>running MarkV in 4:3, should be possible to make it look identical to vanilla
It still lacks the perfect crispness of integer scaling, though I might switch to MarkV in the end if the slow-motion effect continues to spoil the game for me, as that has a greater negative impact on my gaming experience than not having perfectly crisp pixels

>>6951872
>>6952019
It's from the original setup program from Doom 2. I don't like the names either, but this is a potential addition to a source port, so I don't want to fall into the realm of fan fiction. Maybe later down the road I or someone else will look into being able to read episode names from a wad for people that want something better.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_II#Levels

>>6952276
Finally got Master and No Rest for the Living episodes to play nicely with the Doom 2 -episodemode parameter I added to Crispy Doom.

>>6951872
>>6952019
It's from the original setup program from Doom 2. I don't like the names either, but this is a potential addition to a source port, so I don't want to fall into the realm of fan fiction. Maybe later down the road I or someone else will look into being able to read episode names from a wad for people that want something better.

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_II#Levels

>>6952276
Finally got Master and No Rest for the Living episodes to play nicely with the Doom 2 -episodemode parameter I added to Crispy Doom.

>>6952438
Go get 'em, tiger.

>>6952390
never understood the boomer monster thing

most of the people who drink that stuff in my country are teenagers

>>6952491
It came out in the 2000's, which is when the "30 year old boomer" would be hitting their 20's and picking a product to substitute for personality. It's like Bud Light for actual boomers.

>>6952491
>wulfcastlejoke.jpg

>>6952438
Here's the patch if anyone wants to try it out. Use "-episodemode" as a parameter to activate it.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/2197171

>>6952491
Guerilla marketing. Seems to be working too.

>>6952562
But I'm 31 and I think energy drinks suck.

Oh god, the Arch-Vile has so many fucking frames, this was a mistake

What's the best way to play Quake nowadays? With crispy resolution and all that.

>>6952590
Quakespasm
"gl_texturemode gl_nearest_mipmap_linear" in config

>>6952590
Unless Quakespasm got that fps fix, Quakespasm-Spiked or vkQuake.

>>6952276
My mod is mostly code with no new graphics so here's some code.

>>6952590
vkQuake with whatever settings you prefer.

>>6952596
vkQuake is literally QSS and QS mashed together I have no idea what it isn't the de facto modern Quake sourceport yet.

>>6952590
For widescreen:
-width 856 -height 480

I usually use Lossless Scaling to take the windowed mode option and scale them it fullscreen.

>>6950837
>>6950774

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/100292-resurrecting-the-missing-doom64-monsters-missing-weapon-animations-done/?page=14

What the fuck is going on here???

>>6952604
vkQuake lacks mapper features (lightmap display, bounding boxes), lacks the meme chunkiness (r_scale), and rarely does binary releases.
on the other hand, QSS has/had some pretty big issues so it's hard to recommend to a new player. and it doesn't have vkQ's water improvements.

>>6952638
Why can't someone mash them all together.

>>6952652
Because quake 1 community is full of retarded bickering
and it got worse ever since baker and shambler dropped some red pills about it

>>6952652
that's kinda what FTE is. I don't like it though.

>>6952590
>best way
entirely subjective
>crispy resolution
Download or pirate the GOG version of Quake 1. There is a fork of DOSBox that uses integer scaling called DOSBox pixel perfect; use that to run quake.exe. GOG also includes the CD music, but you need to manually mount it for it to work in DOSBox. The commands look something like:
>mount d: d:\
(or whatever harddrive your quake installation is in)
>cd dosgames\quake
(or whatever folder quake is in)
>imgmount e game.cue -t iso -fs iso
(to mount the CD into a virtual CD drive "E:\"; "game.cue" is quake 1, "gamea.cue" is mission pack 1, "gamed.cue" is mission pack 2, all these files are in the Quake directory of the GOG version)
>quake

Or a simpler click-and-play method is getting the game files and running them with a source port - MarkV for the crispy look you mentioned (use the winquake.exe that comes with it for software rendering, and select stretch 320x240 like in this picture >>6952387 to achieve a widescreen pixelated look like Crispy Doom), or use Quakespasm for OpenGL; people use Quakespasm-spiked these days it seems though I don't know since I am a Quakelet (still playing the original campaign). Be warned that I encountered the occasional slow-down when using DOSBox. It doesn't turn to just download the ports and try them out.

>>6952662
whoops i fucked that up. you need to change to your drive after mounting it
>mount x: x:\
>x:
>cd quake\folder
etc. also forgot to mention the cd command means change directory

>>6952659
and they don't like FTE because of it.
and it is a good port of sorts.

i know it since the early days or so when i dropped joequake

>>6952662
It doesn't hurt*** to just download the ports and try them out

>>6952675
>>6952657
Quick rundown? Should I go all-in on FTE?

>>6949752
>shota kisses
what is this

>>6952391
That scope already looks a lot better. Honestly if you just found a way to better define the top part's edge so it doesn't just look like a square gradiant you'd have something pretty acceptable. Keep up the good work!

>>6952682
the rundown is that it takes a fuckton of time to figure obscure settings out, and even once you configure it fully it will never look either vanilla or spasm-compatible (different fullbrights, different skyfog...)

>>6952276
Most of what I've been working on has been under the hood, but have a sample of the new tomed phoenix rod.
Also apparently I found that an explode call in one of my actors wasn't carrying its proper damagetype from the calling actor, even though its supposed to. So that was fun.

>>6952329
You better give plenty of rockets considering how tanky Quake (and even moreso Quoth) enemies can be.

>>6952715

>>6951139
redpilled

>>6952720
A GUG

Not sure if anyone used FTE before, but whats up with its 2D scaling? It's full of artifacts.

>>6952720
gnarly

>>6952778
r_font_linear 0
inb4 "how do I make particles square". have fun I guess.

>>6952562
Nah I prefer many other flavours to that one.

>>6952795
Thanks.
Why is this even on by default...

>>6952807
it's expecting you to be using a high-res downgrade

>that guy who checks a doom level's stats before completing the map first

CONFESSION TIME

ᴵ ᶜˡᵃᶦᵐ ᵗᵒ ˡᵒᵛᵉ ᶜˡᵃˢˢᶦᶜ ˢʰᵒᵒᵗᵉʳˢ ᵇᵘᵗ ᴵ ʰᵃᵛᵉ nᵉᵛᵉʳ ᵖˡᵃʸᵉᵈ ᵗʰʳᵒᵘᵍʰ ᵗʰᵉᵐ

>>6952693
Thanks. Yeah, work on the top part is the next step, when I figure out how.

Meanwhile, I added a new death sound (I have no judge player sprite yet) >>>/wsg/3639326

>>6952276
>want to write
>stare at focuswriter with no idea what to do
>alright maybe I should work on something else
>stare at the screen with no idea what to do without even opening vegas

where the fuck did all the juice go

>>6952957
It's time to start then.

>>6952957
you could be having a lot of fun if you did you know

>>6952657
>Because quake 1 community is full of retarded bickering
They also put pronouns in their bios and support BLM. Why is it always connected...

So im making more intermission screens for La Tailor Girl with the other two characters

>>6952957
I've never finished a single Doom game.
I've never even played a Build engine game.

>>6953076
I don't like Build engine games.

>>6953073
Helloooooo nurse!

>>6952957
I don't like Doom's vanilla gameplay at all and only play anything with Babel since discovering it a year ago.

>>6952957
I am so spoiled from gameplay mods I have a hard time playing vanilla.

I often play .WADs I have never played before by running them with Hideous Destructor.

>>6952957
i like half-life

>>6952957
I think that people that exclusively play GZDoom aren't fans of Doom, they are fans of GZDoom.

>>6952957
There's a pastebin in the OP with just about every classic FPS worth playing
Time you spend shitposting could be spent playing some motherfucking DOOM anon, get to it

>>6952957
never had any interest in furfag stuff until you sick fucks started spamming basilissa/anthro daisy art all those months ago

now I draw furry porn and make some decent money on the side

>>6953123
Nice.

>>6952957
I don't think I ever beat Doom2 without some form of mod involved. I get too bored halfway through and stop every single time.

>>6953110
I immensely enjoy vanilla Doom on Chocolate and apart from that I mainly play GZD for the mods.
For the record, PrBoom+ can go suck a dick.

>>6953135
whats so bad about PBR

>>6953140
It looks like shit

>>6953156
I've been using prBoom+ as a drop in replacement for crispy when the need arises. I use the software version though.

>>6952957
I constantly start wads but never finish any of them
>>6953123
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

>>6953123
ok but where's your daisy smut?

>>6952957
I don't mind weapon reload.

Maybe.

>>6953180
I start wads, end up not enjoying them after a certain point (endgame sections of megawads have a tendency to drag due to levels stretching too long), and just put off playing anything until I can power through the remainder at a pace of like one level per day. Then I usually take a break before playing anything else due to the negative experience. I just hate dropping wads.

>>6953110
I just like looking around people's maps with mouselook. Sue me.

>>6953140
Apart from demos there's no reason to use it. Only literal boomers who grew up with it and the ones falling for their shilling still use it. For vanilla/limit removing you have choc/crispy, for anything else GZD.
Plus, it's a pain in the ass to properly configure. When Fabian finishes Crispy MBF, PRBoom+ is obsolete.

>>6953209
That's how I feel as well, but until Woof is finished prboom still feels closer to vanilla then gzdoom for me. I'm looking forward to finally making the switch though.

Monoeyes from MS3 gives me an interest to port/implant their WHOLE behavior(summoning/death sequence, cycling, palette transition, etc) for a challenge... Would it be good to do?

>>6953234
Do it.

>>6952957
CONVECTION TIME!

The first map I ever made had a sector toilet

>>6953234
Doom could certainly use some boss fights. Go for it.

>>6952037
The "me and my dad" part in the book is so god damn forced.
>bad dad
>didn't like me
>thought making video games was bullshit
>made millions
>dad likes me now
Your dad likes money, John. Free money.

>>6953337
Is Romero still rich? He doesn't seem like he was doing anything since Id that turned profit.

>>6953209
GLBoom is more faithful than GZ and has an FOV option unlike Crispy. If Crispy MBF ends up having that feature (no clue if it's even possible on the non-GL renderers) I'd switch in a heartbeat.

>>6953085
MEEEDIIIIIC

>>6953346
I dunno about rich, but I assume he still gets residuals, plus some of the phone games and such he worked on were profitable. Whether it was very profitable or just profitable enough is another thing.
He could've smartly invested the id cash too.

>>6953083
I don't like you

>>6953123
>>6953180
guess we gotta post different fetishes from now on
also, what mod or wad has the most fetishes in it?

>>6953431
any .wads with rape in it
besides terrywads

>>6952957
I've never played Blood before.
So I've decided to give it a try. Jesus Christ, what I was thinking?

>>6953073
ZUN is making doom-mods now???

>>6952276

>>6952391
>>6952276
Tried making the top a bit more sculptural.
I think it looks almost decent now.

I am also unsure how I should continue with the sprites.

A
>keep centered and try to implement the bore scope in the style of HD

B
>make offset sprites where the lawgiver is held in a proper two handed grip, with details visible on the side and where during mode change the gun is not held up high like at the moment, but just tilted a bit, but so you can still see the dial flash

Second option would of course warrant someone else doing that. Although, after looking into how Matt did the HD scopes, I am not so sure if I can do that just like that. Oh well, my todo list is longcat long anyway.

Doom is so fucking great. Been playing Simon's Destiny, fucking badass. If you don't know, it's a Castlevania mod for Doom.

>>6952276
ha ha who the fuck needs keys anymore

>>6953692
*idclev* haha who the fuck needs maps anymore

>>6953692
Do you need yellow ammo for that?

>>6953073
ever heard of anatomy

>>6953453
Blood predates the thinking of "design your levels to be beaten without secrets" when playing on hard difficulty ("Well Done"), so play on medium for your first playthrough, as there is not enough ammo to kill everything on hard without using secret items, and even then, you need to conserve ammo by using the pitchfork against the melee monsters since hard difficulty also increases enemy hitpoints, effectively doubling the amount of shots it takes to kill the common zombie monster. Also the maps don't seem to be designed with pitchfork-starts so save once at the start of each map; don't be a little bitch and save more often than that, though

>>6952018
Ah shit sorry, forgot to thank you.
Yeah, the sound quality is absolutely terrible, but I just imagine it's some 30 radio play.

>>6953073
I really want art of that thick pink haired girl forcing a shota to motorboat her, suffocating him.

>>6953140
Pabst Blue Ribbon is shit on because it's cheap but it gets me drunk. On a less stupid note though, what wads are you guys playing on this fine Saturday? I'm about to boot up Scythe 2 since pumping up the soundtrack last night made me want to play it again.

>>6953346
>Is a doom who sold a Doom mod 25+ years after the fact rich
No

>>6949752
What model format are you using? And what software for animation?

cold someone make a transcript out of Nyx and Athena's lines in QC?

>>6950224
Can somebody name all the wads in here?

So, if Cacowards this year would not acknowledge the greatness of Doomer Boards and its creative contribution to the community, we should establish our own alternative awards as a protest. And then awards ourselves for 2048 project, screw Doomer Boards.

>>6953929
Does Doomworld only allow projects uploaded to Doomworld? I feel like that wouldn't be the case given SRB2 showed up last year

>>6953929
They've acknowledged Doomer Boards in the past. Why don't they like 40oz though?

>>6953932
>Why don't they like 40oz though?
Because he's a whiny fag?

>>6953123
>basilissa smut
why? where?

>>6953929
Remember me?

>>6953949
I'd never forget the Golden Boners

>>6953932
They acknowledged their projects, without naming the place of origin. I think the whole situation makes them awkward - on one hand they want to present Doomer Boards as cesspool of deplorable assholes, but on the other hand they can't ignore the monthly tributes from them. Like how that furfag guy who was playing 2048 project prefaced them with disclaimer that he made sure there is no ugh yikes I don't even it's current year icky stuff in it because it came from 4chan.

>>6953932
By the way, what caused 40oz to secede from DW in the first place? I want to know the whole story.

>>6953929

If I get my epic contest rolling I was thinking of granting golden tacodemons

>>6953953
I never even heard of the Doomer boards until Alien Bastards, whats the beef anywaysf?

you know how the qc/eternal model of the doomguy armor gives it some weird "beans" that might as well be a misrepresentation of stretch marks?
quake armor actually had those
is it me or is the quake wiki so far behind, compared to the doom wiki?

>>6953982
The oldest doomerboards members are mostly users banned from doomworld because they're nazis or some dumb shit of the sort. Their continued existence causes eternal seethe to certain people on doomworld because of some retarded reason I cannot begin to decipher.

>>6953990
It's because they were where all the talent was.

>>6950947
I wouldn't mind PBR and normals for vanilla textures.

BTW is it possible in GZDoom to combine high res heightmaps with vanilla textures? Because vanila size heightmap with point-filter result in somer jank ass shit where you can clerarly see the parallax layer separation

>>6953990
nazis as in actual pagan larping nazis or just your garden variety shitposters?

>>6954006
As far as I can tell, nazis as in people who think dick mutilation is weird

>>6954046
I still don't know why being against genital mutilation became so taboo. There's been a huge wave of people calling for banning male circumcision and it's great.

>>6950947
Those aren't necessary, infact i love the PBR stuff for Q2 and the Retexture project at moddb, but it pisses me off that is tied to Kirk's Source port, and the secondary port for it is tied to a meme shader that made everything ugly and looking like unrealistic reflections everywhere, and even in unnecessary stuff like guns.

>>6953994
its possible to do that in GZDOOM, and there are threads at doomworld for it.
im using Xarp's hexen stuff for it, but they weren't really converted for it.

>>6954097
Doomworld threads are either for highrez pbr for highrez textures, or vanilla size pbr for vanilla textures.
I don't see any high-rez PBR for vanilla size textures there. Can you please link them?

>>6954116
look at doomsday website, i got mines from there

>>6954119
There's nothing there, only DHTP, which only has light and reflection maps, but no normals
And Doomsday itself doesen't even support paralax/heightmaps
And there's nothing on their forums either, at least not with the search results.

Can you upload whatever you are using?

Quake 4 might be a little too modern for this thread, but I'm asking anyway. Is Q4 like Q1/Q2 where there's no point in buying it on steam since there's better third party ports of it, or is the steam version worth it?

>>6954094
>Those aren't necessary
never gonna make it, pleb

>>6954159
its a good game, the Mp was fun as fuck and the Single player was fine
But it had optimization problems and activision sent raven to die because the game went against F.E.A.R. and lost.

also romero's butthurt comment over "its not my quake" was mostly because he was still on his retarded superstar "i hate my former company" on drugs mode. when he shilled and played Quake 2 and 3 for years in mp.
Nowadays he says that is fine because the "strogg fits in quake for being horrifying machine of death, the dark side of transhumanism and depravity, and i like to see a mix lovecraft and biohorror someday"

>>6954192
Also due to activision's autism against id, the game had its Mission pack made by Ritual Entertainment Cancelled
what is left is only concept art and screenshots
https://imgur.com/a/gQUnZ

>>6954192
>Nowadays he says that is fine because the "strogg fits in quake for being horrifying machine of death, the dark side of transhumanism and depravity, and i like to see a mix lovecraft and biohorror someday"
imagine if they made quake 5 and convincingly mashed up the dark fantasy/lovecraft stuff from 1 with the strogg stuff from 2. that would be amazing

I think the biggest issue with Quake or Unreal making a comeback is weird consistency issues throughout their franchises.

The first games are completely different thematically compared to later entries. At least with Unreal, if someone says "I like Unreal" you can assume they mean Unreal Tournament. If someone says they like Quake, that can mean anything. Do they like the slow plodding gothic horror of Quake 1? Do they like the sci-fi Quake 2? Maybe they prefer the multiplayer only entries.

When it comes to green lighting a project, funding, and advertising, who even is the Quake demographic? It feels like a 50/50 split between people that exclusively play singleplayer vs multiplayer.

Other than Doom 3, thematically, every Doom game meshes with each other pretty well.

>>6954205
>>6954224
The Strogg uses Slipgate Dimensional traveling technology.
Also the fact that Armagon and all of Scourge enemies were Strogg like creatures
I wouldn't be surprised if Armagon was the leader of the Strogg, but after his death and the Makron's takeover, he used what was left of Quake's forces and went on to stroggfy them, and use it to invade earth years later in 2050 since the events of quake happens in 1996.

Gunners uses modified Death knight sounds and Enforcers act like Q1 Enforcers.

>>6954251
forgot pic

>>6954205
>>6954251
I think the problem is aesthetically how do you distinguish *mythos thing* from *stroggified human*. Either you've got some sort of robot mythos thing that's a nightmare to figure out what you're looking at (in a bad way) or the same strogg with a couple shamblers dropped in here and there. Mythos-ified humans could maybe work, but that seems just like run of the mill biotech themed enemies.

>>6954276
>start the game fighting horrors
>strogg show up halfway through
>now fighting stroggified horrors.

>>6954281
and quake 4 and ETQW amplified that up to oblivion, even >>6954195 cancelled concept art is Event horizon and dredd deadworld levels of insanity
which isn't surprising seeing how the comics has shown shub cultists creating the "1st stroggfied human made on earth" from Visor and Gorre.
also anarki's backstory

its easy to see the lovecraftian old gods mainly Nyalorthep creating them

It's like it's really good, but also kinda shit since it's beholden to Wolf/RotT gameplay and mapping
-Great gunplay, decent enemies
-Starter magnum blows heads off of half of the enemies
-Can get bullshit amounts of ammo to sell back even on hard
-Level design is pretty suffering however
-A few bullshit gotcha moments
Surely I'm not the only anon that's wondering why this feels so great in places and so shit in others?

>>6954281
How do you make a stroggified horror look good visually? Slapping guns on a scrag or robot limbs on a shambler isn't interesting. So you need some more exotic enemy, like the Drole from Quoth. How do you stroggify that? It's already a starfish with legs, adding robot parts is just going to make it more visually confusing.

>>6954195
why are there so many penis cannons
couldn't find any other place to put a gun on than the crotch?

> serious sam reptiloid highlander (the giant one)
> but its holding an adult arachnoid in each hand
> which all have 2 miniguns per
chaingunnerevenant eat your boney heart out

>>6952581
You doing something for the Diabolist?

>>6954302
you know it really irks me that so many of the "retro" shooters have the verticality of friggin wolfenstein 3D

>>6954303
Then do something more creative than "slap guns on thing". Shamblers are big, strong and electric. Now graft two or three of them together and force them to be a powered, mobile platform for a canon. Still conscious, thrashing against their prison made from their own bodies. Just a matter of finding a strange use for their natural abilities.

>>6954303
Quake 4 and etqw did that
and for the mother of all biomechanical herrors, there is always Akira and shirou's creations for it, and for the pure insanity, angel cop and getter.

also Look at Q2's brains, they don't need guns to kill you, they have insta death tentacle rape from their chest and they are the most Q1 Design in Q2, losing only to Mutants and Parasites.

As for an stroggfied drole? he's dangerous on foot? so why not give him a Shield and make his mouth shoot railgun projectiles or the Phalanx Fireballs along with the normal ranged attack, or the Brain's Instakill grab to make use of his tentacles? make something that would come out of Nyalorthep's ideas.
>>6954324 post resumes well the idea.

in fact all of Q2's monster library was born out of Doom and Q1's monsters and leftovers
Parasites are deadlier fiends and Demons, Enforcers are Hitscan Q1 laser bois, Gunners are the perfect evolution of the Ogre and the Chaingunner, and berserkers if tim didnt fucked with all of Q2's AI script leaving tons of unused ai animations, were the perfect mix of Fiend, Knight and Death Knight, something that Q4 did years later.

there is no need for "just pick this and slaps guns on it" just pick what it exists and improve it from there.

also the Drole is the perfect evolution of the shambler, as Wraiths in Dissolution are for Vores.

>>6954302
The graphics are crap, like confetti gibs and enemies like WTF. Who thought it looked good? They had to deliberately disable the align-to-view on them for it to look like this. WHY?
And the monotone palette, which makes environments blend together in the worst ways.

>>6953949
Ahh. Those would be good to see again.

>>6954302
>Great gunplay
l m a o

https://twitter.com/Shtovladya/status/1312429751886327808

>Eviternity Map 32
What the fuck? What the fuck am I even supposed to be doing? What kind of mad man would create such a level?

>>6954614
played this with some sort of randomizer mod with coop lives a while back and some nigger picked imps reflect projectiles and pretty much ended the run

>>6954614
just run around for a bit, parts of it are optional.
if you're missing any keys by the end, remember that the rooms containing them are color-coded

>>6954614
It's a great map.
2 sections that are basically self contained - the main chasm circle and final base.
No matter where you go, you go the right way as first area circles onto itself, with extra path in the middle IIRC.

>>6949671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XId_kyCx3xw&feature=emb_title
Infinite hacking possibilities within vanilla doom unlocked
2.5 decades too late. :-p
Still, pretty rad.