/vr/ - Retro Games

clean the fucking games.

>>694579
I'll pick up some rubbing alcohol in the morning, but does the pink screen mean the 72 pin is good? I was under the impression the screen was supposed to be blue. I don't really know much about the NES, I had one for a kid and mainly collect for the genesis and snes

I have an NES that only goes to a white screen.I plan on replacing or fixing the current 72 pin connector.

And yeah clean your games is an obvious one. Assuming they are dirty.

It doesn't really matter what color the screen turns, I've heard green before. But make sure you clean ALL of you games before you put them in cause they really swap tons of dirt between the connector and the games.
When you get the alcohol, clean one game, then swab some extra alcohol onto it, then insert it in and out of the nes repeatedly. This will scrub and clean the 72 pin connector for maximum performance.

mine blinks too just wiggle the cart until you see the title screen, leave it in the exact spot then turn it on and off and reset it until it stays on.

Do the games feel loose? Like the pins aren't gripping them very tightly? If so, it's most likely a pin problem. Also, you don't need to buy a new pin, you can bend the pins back on the connector you already have and it will work great.

>>694659
It doesn't feel like it's moving, however now Zelda won't even start it loads the title screen and plays a few notes from the intro and then re-sets itself over and over again

Kind of a related thing. .I rescued a poor SNES from the same guy I bought the NES from, and it's painted black and just covered in velcro, I was thinking about taking some nail-polish remover to it to test, and then perhaps some actual acetone. Any suggestions on that?

>>694557
>I currently don't have any rubbing alcohol to attempt to clean any carts

Then wait until you do.

>I get a pink blinking screen and the power flickers on and off

Common problem caused by bad cartridge contact. The 10NES can't get a good read on the cart so it assumes it's a bootleg/wrong region and resets the console every second.

Killing the 10NES chip can "fix" this problem but I don't recommend that option for contact problems. If you have bad contact your games could be negatively impacted in other ways even if a dead 10NES allows them to start.

>Is this a problem with the 72 pin, or something else

Clean your shit before you worry about the 72pin.

The 72pin is easy to re-bend the pins on or replace entirely if cleaning doesn't work.

>The guy said I can contact him to swap

Won't matter, every NES that hasn't been specifically refurbished will be in this condition.

>>694723
> painted black
> covered in velcro
This man clearly had superior taste. Don't you dare lay a finger on that fine work of art.

>>694753

And he fact that it gives you a flat color screen AND resets means that not only can the 10NES not read it, but neither can the rest of the console. Glitchy graphics along with resetting means the same thing.

If it's just the 10NES you'll get to see the first second of the game properly, between each reset.

>>694759
He had it fit into an arcade cabinet he ripped apart. I can't explain the fact it's black, but it was stuck into the cab with a PSX, NES and Genesis. He had Frankensteined up a little hole for them to come out of and play. I got it all for 100 bucks with a pile of games,stripped the cab apart and sold the sub-woofer/amp combo inside it for 60 bucks to a friend of mine. The PSX was just a mess and is in a plastic container he called a "hobby box" and is outside of the case itself, the NES is fucking beautiful, the Genesis works flawlessly...but that poor SNES...

>>694774
How should I fix the NES10 other than cleaning if that doesn't solve the problem? I found like 4 guides that just outright tell me to disable it.

>>694837
If you look at the NES' motherboard with the text on the chips right side up, the furthest bottom right is the NES-10. Break the 4th contact on the bottom.

>>694723
Why the hell did you not ask why it looked like that? That sounds like the gateway to the most incredible journey of your life and you screwed it up.

Go find him again and ask to be a part of his magical world.

>>694843
4th from left or from right?

>>694846
He had like 3 black ones. That's just the thing. The playstation he said was dropped and the case was shit, and he got it for 6 bucks at a yard sale...
>>694843

Can I get like a video or an image guide on this?

>>694863
>Can I get like a video or an image guide on this?
>able to post to 4chan
>somehow unable to google the problem
wtf are you doing

Open the games with a game bit or screw driver and take some fine steel wool, 30 or so, and rub it against the contacts. It should take off any concision and polish the surface to a nice shine.

As for the NES, get the 72 pin connector out, take an old white T-shirt, wrap it around a credit card or any card, and then spray some 70% alcohol on it and push it in and out of the connectors. That should clean up the contacts in the pins.

Next you should bend each up slightly. I use one of those plastic tooth picks and bend each one up slightly

Reassemble the NES and try the game you just cleaned. You might need to take the 72 pin connector out again and do some adjustments to get it just right

After you do all this, your NES SHOULD work like new.

>>694902
trying to figure this shit out. Also for the sake of interest, I'm posting the pics of my black SNES, sort of really tempted to post a listing on ebay for it listed at eighty bucks as a RARE SNES VELCRO EDITION

>>694723
acetone will melt the plastic BAD

Get a super fine extra powder magic eraser and use that instead

>>694863

Alternatively stab it with a hot iron until it starts to smoke.

Be warned- with the 10NES disabled it's now possible to run games without proper pin contact, which can lead to unintended glitches or loss of save data.

>>694915
Black suits it. Even if the purple then looks rough.

Also I hope you're okay bro, that SNES is coming right at you.

>>694915

Your pic quality is kind of shit but the SNES actually looks alright.

Even if you took the paint off you'd probably just find nasty yellow plastic underneath anyway.

>>694916
What should I do to get the velcro off? Would WD40 or Goo-Gone be too much?
>>694917
Thank you. I'll look into that. I'll post an update if I had to do that or not , or if cleaning does the trick. I've also been reading that people like to use 400 grit sandpaper to clean up the contacts for the 72 pin, is that a bad idea instead of steel wool?

>>694928
Sorry, only got my cellphone cam. Here's another pic. I could try off my webcam to show better detail

>>694941
That's a bad idea, yeah

Use a cloth like a T-shirt and a credit card and some 70% alcohol and clean them that way

Sand paper and steel wool will shred the plastic near it

Let the Pro come in to help with the NES! Here's my method that I use.

>Does the NES turn on?
>Does it display anything?
>Does the cartridge have a snug fit inside the NES?
>If not, the pin connector is loose and should be tightened.
>If so, either your game or the pin connector is dirty,
>Is the game clean?
>If so, then the pin connector is dirty.
>Is the pin connector cleaned to the best of your ability?
>If so, then try setting the game in the "up" position and try again.
>If nothing still, your pin connector is likely shot.

To clean the pin connector, you could either get an NES cleaning kit (very useful tool) or open up the NES, rip out the part, and take a toothbrush with alcohol to it. To pry the pins back, use a small flathead screwdriver and pull down as far and as gently as you can.

>>694951
maybe they had it mounted on a wall or something hence the velcro

>>694951
Here's a pic of the velcro for its intended use with the guy's favorite game and the only cart covered in velcro, NBA JAM.

>>694963
>Wall mounded SNES

What am I hearing

Has anyone ever done that? Like ever?

>>694963
It was, to the wall of his homebrew arcade machine.

>>694967
What the fuck

There's better ways to hold onto games

Very common problem. The fuckers almost 30 years old so its never going to work perfectly. Clean out your games, replace the 72-pin connecter and cross your fingers. Also try turning it on with your game in the UP position instead of pushed down.

>>694969
le wall mount : http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1cxh2e/mounted_my_nintendo_consoles_on_the_wall/

>>694978
Fucking stupid

>>694971
That I can understand

>>694941
>I've also been reading that people like to use 400 grit sandpaper to clean up the contacts for the 72 pin, is that a bad idea instead of steel wool?

Holy christ DO NOT EVER DO THIS.

You might get a temporary improvement by abrading away dirt roughing up the surface but this will without fail strip the plating and ruin the pins.

The original 72-pin connector has high quality nickel-gold plated contacts and pretty much every contact failure is due only to dirt and grime getting all over them.

3rd party replacements are extremely low quality and will actually wear down and corrode straight through. They will not last as long as the original connectors have.

>>694973
The guy was pretty fucking strange. He had a ton of stuff in storage and made a comment that he's got "more like this" in another locker. But that was my reaction.

>>694978
Ugh why?

>>694983
Most replacement pins are just pulled out of old NESs

>>694983
Would the repair kit they sell at Nintendo Repair Shop be a good investment then ?

>>694991
You realize you have to save those other games, right?

>>694994
It might be

>>694990

Bullshit. None of them have the correct plating. Most use galvanized steel or at best a thin nickel plate.

Real connectors have gold-on-nickel plating right on the elbow of each pin that touches the cartridge contacts.

>>694967
That cart is so filthy ew

>>695006
Its just something I hear

>>694994

The cleaning kit looks handy, if somewhat overpriced for what you get.

If nothing else that 3.8mm bit will be useful.

Do not throw out your old 72pin if you replace it. Put it up for sale somewhere, let people know it's an original that you replaced because it wasn't giving good contact. Someone will buy it because they know all it needs is a good cleaning.

As it's a ZIF connector it doesn't even really need pin bending. It's a myth that the pins get bent out of shape from normal cartridges.

>>695021
bending them sure helps though

>>695021
>Do not throw out your old 72pin if you replace it. Put it up for sale somewhere, let people know it's an original that you replaced because it wasn't giving good contact. Someone will buy it because they know all it needs is a good cleaning.

Why the fuck don't you clean it then?

>>695028

Only because you're increasing contact force to grind through the dirt on them. In the long run this only increases wear.

>>695031

If someone's convinced they need a new one and there's no changing their mind, at least the quality original can be saved.

>>695038
You bend them after you clean them

>>694849
from the left

>>695002
I plan on it, he's got a ton of carts in fantastic condition (really anything that wasn't inside that horrible machine) Like this, and I've got a bunch of these like rental place boxes that have a short description

>>695050
That looks like a nice copy

Nothing like the copy I got in box for $15 though

>>695045

Should not be necessary if you've cleaned them properly.

And again, the higher contact force increases wear.

>>695007
I think that something like this makes up for it really. I do agree, that one is trash. Here's a good cart to make up for it
>>695021 I didn't know that cleaning and bending back were an option. I think I'll take it apart, and try my hand at that. If not I'll buy the kit, I've bought the cleaning solution they sell and that stuff does wonders.

>>695054
And again, some times that's what it takes to get a NES working

>>695058
What kind of case is that game in?

>>695063

Only if you've actually managed to damage the pins somehow.

Pretty much the only thing I can think of that's even capable of that is a game genie.

>>695068
That happens to be one of the most common third party devices when I get in NES bundles,

>>695065
Not really sure, never seen them before. it looks like this. It's got a sticker that has a nice little description of the game and some basic controls and strategy with a release date, publisher and a bit of a story to the game. It's super glossy and the text looks good. The front says "Permastruct instructions" and has a little super hero with a word bubble reading "Here's your instructions" and it's got a "Created by V.I.D Video Source Inc". I'm assuming it's from a rental place.

>>695078
Forgot pic. Whoops

>>695078
It looks like a hard plastic Nintendo case

>>695078
>I'm assuming it's from a rental place.

Yeah, it's a rental place. Cases with instruction briefs were common both to protect the cartridge and because the original instruction manuals were so easily lost or destroyed by customers.

>>695078
Oh wow that's pretty neat, I kinda like it.

>>695065
A proprietary hard case used by rental stores. I have one for Contra from "ZAP Games", I think? All I know is that it had a bluish green Gumby looking guy pointing.

>>695080
Huh, it looks like this was referenced somewhat in Retro City Rampage, which would actually make it quite a rare reference.

>>695052
yeah because unlike yours his exists

>>695093
You really don't think I got it for $15?

In the same transaction I got in box punch out first edition and mario 2 for $15 each too

>>695091
Huh, I'll have to investigate that, I got 4 games like that and he's got like another 15 up for sale

>>695080
>Here's your instructions.
Holy shit, nostalgia rush.

>>695369
Do you know anything about those guys ?

Update: I cleaned up all the carts for the NES, absolutely no dirt on the inside of any of the games. They were all golden. I'm pretty sure the innards of the NES aren't as clean. The SNES is still black, but it's velcro free. I'm friends with a local artist and I've hired her to touch up the paint. It's hard to see, but the paint job is shit and is showing white in some spots, and is pretty bubbly (unless I can remove the paint I got a few parts to show, and it's really white) I haven't decided. My NES still gives me some trouble, but it will usually play a game for a while before flickering the power and re-setting the game and sometimes putting it into an endless loop. I got one pink screen today.

>>699575
And here's the NBA Jam cart I scrubbed for a good 15 minutes. The velcro claimed a bit of the cover.

>>699575
I'm gong to need to open up my NES tomorrow, I've got my tools out on loan to a friend so I don't want to just take a screw driver from my junk draw to the poor thing, I've got the correct bit and I'm going to use it.