/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6934894
Your imagination fills in the possibilities for what the image showed.

>>6934894
The mixture of familiar and unfamiliar is one of the basic formulas for appeal

>>6934894
Post more Zelda 64

Similar appeal to watching deleted scenes from your favorite movie, or demos/outtakes by your favorite music band.

>>6935354

What an ugly fucking game, 5th gen 3d was awful, but 5th gen 2d was beautiful.

>>6935397
zoom zoom

>>6934905
this

also explains why silent hill is more scary than resident evil.

>>6935397
>but 5th gen 2d was beautiful.
Depends, there's some genuinely great stuff, but a lot of the time it looked really mediocre or outright bad. Most likely because 2D game development on 5th gen systems weren't given too much polish/budget/dev time (and, 5th gen systems beign more centered on hardware for 3D rather than 2D graphics).

>>6935397
Leave this place

>>6934894

>>6935397
It’s beautiful in its own way, you’re just ignorant.

This is why We should have only authorized games until 1999, that are actually RETRO. Now the shixth generation has brought retard zoomshit like this @6935397

>>6934894
They are uncanny. Like looking at photos of your childhood home but seeing rooms you've never been to.

>>6934894
It's all about the "beta" part. Betas are obsessed with shit like that.

What Ultima 9 could have been. Looks so much more interesting.

This one doesn't really seem interesting or mysterious.

>>6936702
BETRAYAL

>>6935963
Faggot 360 is retro

>>6935409
>using a half-assed dbz fighting game using SNES sprites as an example of 5th gen 2D

meanwhile in reality we had shit like sotn, silhouette mirage and rakuga kids showing the amazing shit you could do with 2D visuals that hold up way better than 90% of 3D games from that era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BNEgfU0tyw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBaGnwCnzQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4jgh3VdNm4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSFxiuID1TY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssZn5DYKt-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpHX4cPQYvM

>>6934894
I was excited for Ocarina because of pic related. It's a real shame the game never delivered close to what is represented by the scene here.

>>6937163
Forgot pic

>>6935015
never seen this before. where did you find that?

>>6935396
Man I really would like a dungeon with this atmosphere.

>>6937163
>>6937168
Did you want to fire arrows with a side view of Link and without seeing your target?

>>6935413
>it's not i who needs to go back
lmao

>>6937413
who are you quoting

>>6937404
It feels MYSTERIOUS!
In all actuality there's no way this forest wasn't just a glorified test area and the only reason it feels interesting is because of all of that draw distance fog

>>6937440
He's quoting a faggot. aka (You)

>>6937404
>>6937494
That there might be outdoor areas more like LTTP, just in 3D. Many close scenes that were stitched together to look seemless. Not the wide open flat-plane version we got.

>>6937574
Wasn't this forest confirmed to be part of beta Hyrule Field with the giant castle in it too

>>6937247
prototype for the game LOOM

>>6937606
i know what it is i was wondering where you found it so i could see more. i couldn't find anything with google/image search.

>>6934894
>What is it about beta screenshots that seem so interesting and mysterious?
Half of the context missing. Once you figure out what it is, it loses this mysterium and appeal.
Thats why we need real time dungeon mastee ai

>>6935407
First Silent Hill wasn't scary.

>>6937081
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>>6937108
What is it about early 3D that just has so much soul?

>>6937168
virtual hydlide vibes

>>6937695
I got it >>6935015 from a super old spanish magazine iirc

>>6934894
They are liminal spaces

>>6935397
Six was perfect but that doesn't make 5 awful faggot.

It's not like it's doom graphics, of which doom isn't even early 3d gaming itself.

5th gen is when 3d games actually became commonly playable rather than just flukes like star fox being there, of which look pretty ass.

Bitch about star fox for the snes next time and stop spamming this shit over and over because I know that >>6937804 is you.

I'd defend you some more but you're being a faggot spammer.

>>6937029
3 games, ok.
I said there's some good stuff but if you like 2D stick to 4th gen. Most 5th gen 2D was low budget shit with washed out colors and flat polygons giving the illusion of 2D

>>6935717
What is this?

>>6938149
Megaman x4 would like a word

>>6935397
Go fuck yourself with a spiked dildo

>>6935405
>buzzword
nigger.

>>6937832
Lighting. Early 3d relied on heavily on texture work and lighting.

For me, Simon Wai's Sonic 2 Beta is the quintessential prototype game.

Ever since seeing the proto title screen in Sonic 2's manual I had been wondering what's up. Fast forward to 1999, stumbling upon old Sonic fansites and learning of all the cut content, some of which being reimplemented with crude IPS patches.... Ah, good times.

>>6936702

BE

TRAYAL

>>6938481
>A rom sitting on some random Chinese site
>Most people thought it was just a bad buggy dump
>One dude takes a look into it and realizes it's a beta rom
Insane how that was found. Wonder what else is sitting around on some website, nobody knowing what it truly is.

>>6937168
Remember when they failed on this promise again?

>>6938527
we'll get a forest in zelda someday

>>6938481
It's definitely one of the most iconic betas of all time.
For me, there have been two major prototype leaks which stand above all others to me in terms of hype and excitement. Those would be the Nick Arcade beta of Sonic 2, and the SpaceWorld 1997 Gold/Slver betas.
I experienced both as they happened but I was the person to leak the existence of the SW97 roms to /vp/ so that's a bit more special to me. Nick Arcade was my ideal proto release though. It was exactly what everyone had been wishing we had for so long, it contained some insane stuff we could have never expected, and it was extremely hype.
Difference between these two leaks is that for the Nick Arcade rom, it was just thrown out there, left for people to explore. The SW97 roms on the other hand were being hoarded and all of its information plumbed already with the idea of making a translated rom hack that came out simultaneously with the official release. I was not a fan of this approach and neither was the guy who actually leaked it to /vp/. I don't think the group actually ever released a translation but they did have pretty much everything covered in their spreadsheet (and later, TCRF). All in all it came out as less of a fun time. The hype was intense for sure but the exploration aspect had already been covered. Plus, Nick Arcade more or less just showed up one day from what I remember.
Now, the Sonic 3 proto was close. I'd say it maybe came around 80% of the way to that level of incredulity and hype.

>>6938687
By the way don't worry about that stupid "Japanese collector" story at the bottom there, turned out to be totally fake, obviously.

>>6938516
Is that site archived anywhere? I've always been curious as to what it was like.

>>6937168
>>6938527
(blocks your path)

The Super Castlevania IV proto build from the recent gigaleaks has to be one of my favorites ever. I'm actually still amazed that it happened at all.
Nobody expected it to exist, we only knew about the very early beta that looks very different from the finished game, but this one looks fairly finished (at least up to level 6 or so), except with a totally different map screen with a very neat 3D mode 7 effect (not as pretty as the finished version, but more "3D"), many different enemy sprites, different early versions of many classic tracks including Simon's Theme, and the best of all, a completely different (new to us) music for Forest of Monsters.
And as if all that wasn't enough, the ROM is playable and can be loaded in emus/everdrives, fans quickly also ripped the music to listen to separately.
Maybe not as mind blowing as all the weird ass stuff that was found about Super Mario World, Yoshi's Island or Star Fox 2, but personally as a big Castlevania fan, this was amazing and easily my favorite thing out of all the gigaleak, and one of my favorite beta/proto leaks of all time.

>>6937404
Yes

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>>6937404
You mean like all the top down zeldas? Lmao

>>6938527
Bastard trailer tricked me into buying a Wii. Beta TP looked amazing.

>>6935015
Whoa

>>6938527
what
Maybe TP was going to be the original idea for OoT remade?

>>6938763
Outside of the lost woods/ sacred grove the forests in Breath of the Wild all feel kind of small and empty. It'd be interesting if you came across something like that area while just exploring instead of it being a different zone area that sticks out on the world map.

>>6938367
My pussy. :)

>>6940610
Yes because OoT's prototype invented the concept of being in a forest with trees around

Wow

>>6934894
Insane to me we actually got this

>>6940610
They outright stated that was the intention: "Let's do everything we couldn't in OOT due to hardware constraints, time limits, and dysfunctional corporate bullshit drama- that's gonna be TP." The part that didn't come out 'till after TP got fair-to-middling reception too was "...Because Americans don't seem to like Toon Link much at all, and Aonuma has no idea where to go next in light of that." So, a lot of what they were originally planning for Wind Waker 2 got chopped up and poured into Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks, respectively.

>>6942486
You referencing the Gigaleaks?

>>6942518
Yeah the whole map was leaked

>>6935717
is this Myst or some shit

>>6942527
Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I spent *hours* reading this shit on internet back in the day, typing stuff into various search engines, hopping from site-to-site seeing what various ROMhackers (or some dipshit that just got really lucky with a GS code) would find.

>>6942596
Beta Temple of Time.

>>6934894
The screenshots are advenrtisement, and you are a retard.

>>6942642
>advenrtisement
lol try again fucktard

>>6942516
>TP got fair-to-middling reception
WTF is up with /vr/ and historic revisionism? It's one of the best selling and highest rated games ever, objectively. I don't understand why every single thread there's fags spouting this kind of shit...

>>6937168
It almost looks like Quest 64.

>>6938779
>Maybe not as mind blowing
And that's why nobody gave a shit about it. Now, if it was the infamous "promo" version that would have definitely had more interest.

>>6934894
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>>6935396
The sad thing is, if you ever got to play beta Zelda 64, it would probably be boring. Unless someone made a version and intentionally made it mysterious and creepy.

>>6938373
alright, one more. It still doesn't look substantially better than X1-X3, in fact I never liked the new sprite style much, and a lot of things don't mesh well together, the 16-bit games are much more pleasant to look at IMO (and also are better designed, but that's besides the point)

>>6944750
Yeah true, but to be QUITE honest? The new music track was mind-blowing enough to me.
It's something that mostly only Castlevania fans cared about though, which are a significantly smaller fanbase than that of Mario or Zelda.