/vr/ - Retro Games

That's not how you spell Megadrive.

>>691295
fuck yeah Genesis thread

>>691312
And that's not how Mega Drive is spelled either.

I'm trying to remember a game which I'm almost certain was on the Mega Drive/ Genesis.
I'll try my best to describe it, apologies for the vague details.

>Side scrolling platformer
>think you may play as a girl but this could be wrong
>there was a bit in a level where water would fill a pit and you'd have to make it across before you drowned.
>pretty sure most of the enemy's were inanimate objects come to life.

>>691312
More people on the planet owned a "Genesis" than a "Mega Drive" so we win the nomenclature.

>>691356
Sega Mega Drive rolls off the tongue a hell of alot better though.

>>691312
While Mega-Drive sounds kooler, Genesis makes me think of the beginning of SEGA's brief domination over the vidya market.

>play this for the first time yesterday
>think, Holy shit, this is advanced for Genesis hardware
>even has branching routes, something that wasn't seen in rail shooters till years later in SF64 and PD Zwei

this may become my favorite rails shooter

>>691363
This.

Mega Drive gives it that robust and dominating sound. Genesis is nice, but only brings Phil Collins to my head (along with Innuendo)

Also
>that sleek controller with the smooth d-pad

>>692052
>Phil Collins-era Genesis
>not glorious Peter Gabriel-era Genesis
Do you even prog rock?

>>692052
Two words flows better than one?

Why can't we just agree it's a great console no matter what we call it? :c

Sonic 3 & Knuckles is the best game on the genesis, possibly one of the best games ever.

This is indisputable. Don't even try

>>692125
I completely agree with this. I love sonic 2 but I think Sonic 3 and Knuckles improves on it in every way.

>>692097
Where did I say flow in my post?

>>692083
>implying I'm not your sledgehammer

>>692157
Wrong quote. my error

I don't give a shit what it's called.

I love Ristar.

>>691409
Love this game. I also really enjoy Burning Force, a much earlier and simpler rail shooter on the Genesis that was ported from the arcades. Unfortunately it seems like those two are the only rail-shooters on the Genesis that are actually high-quality.

>>692179
I mean I don't care what the system is called, of course.

Also, pic of awesome character.

>>692125
>best game on Genesis
>not even the best Genesis Sonic game
Good one, buddy.

>>692256
>implying Sonic 2 is better than Sonic 3 & Knuckles
>implying there is a single game on the mega drive which can top Sonic 3 & Knuckles in any aspect

Good one, buddy.

>>692286
Liking Sonic 2 is the new hip thing to do.
At least we've gone full circle and act not impressed with Sonic CD again.

>>692052
>MEGA DRIVE DOES WHAT NINTENDON'T
yes, cause that nearly flows as well as GENESIS DOES

>>691409
Love the Japanese Mega Drive packaging for some reason... that shit gives me funny feelings in my pantaloons

>Find my old Mega Drive in March
>Clean it up, and set it up
>It lacks everything apart from the composite cables, and games.
>Remember years ago, I used to have the controllers, and the games in a big black bag
>It's probably been thrown out years ago

Dammit, why are power supplies so fucking expensive. £11 + £5 delivery is usually the price, the controllers aren't bad, but they're still quite high, I was expecting about £5 for 1, when it's about £10 for 1, plus delivery.

>>692286
>>692293
>>692256
>>692138
>>692125
All of you are plebs

Knuckles in Sonic 2 is the greatest game of all time

>>692256
I did enjoy the thunderforce games on the Genesis/Megadrive. The shining force games are fun as well.

Shining in the darkness was another awesome game

>>692306g
just get the 3-in-1 power supply. It's for the Genesis, CD, and 32X.

>>692296

>>692296
calm down fag, we all like the same console as you

>>692296
Yes, but in the Mega Drive regions, we had much superior advertising.

>>692306
If you're using a Mega Drive 2, you can use the same power cable as a Slim PS1. No idea if this helps you or not, or if it works with a Mega Drive 1, but it simplified my setup a fair bit.

my megadrive is still in its box, near mint
i'll never sell it and now i'm scared to play it but one day i'll crack

>>692286
>implying S3&K doesn't have inferior level design
>implying a Sonic game can be the best on Genesis

>>692321
>Yes, but in the Mega Drive regions, we had much superior advertising.
Yeah, that's why it did so well in Japan...

>>692328
>implying the genesis sonic games were not the best ones

You just went full faggot. Kindly fuck yourself out of here.

>>692341
but the Sonic Jam on the Saturn has the best versions of Sonic 1-3&Knuckles, cause they were programmed from scratch, rather than being a port. Sonic 1 has the spin dash from 2, and other shit like that.

>>692341
>>implying the genesis sonic games were not the best ones
>implying I said that
>implying you can't read
Back to school with you.

>>692346
Just because they were ports instead of emulation doesn't mean they're without problems. Jam has a shitload of slowdown problems that aren't in the actual games, not to mention sound issues.

>>692346
not even him but what the fucking shit are you talking about?

Why don't we compromise and call it the MegaGenesis, because I think that sounds pretty cool.

>>692361
Because it's a shit name.

>>692358
Sonic Jam is a compilation title for the Sega Saturn. It has Sonic 1-3, and has the cartridge lock on capability of the Knuckles cart (ie, you can combine it in-game with Sonic 1-3, like IRL). Sonic Jam isn't emulating the Genesis games, they were programmed from the ground up, hence no emulation issues. As a result of the compilation being created from scratch, Sonic 1 has the Spin Dash, which was introduced in Sonic 2. Numerous bugs in Sonic 3 were fixed as well for the Saturn release.

>>692310
Holy crap! Thanks Annon I didn't know of this.

>>692391
>sonic 3
>bugs

Such as?

The Genesis was great. Everything surrounding the Genesis was Kim I shit, except the Sega CD.

32x, Game Gear, Sega Channel (stream demos, yay), and the peripherals. I don't think we even had the gun.

>>692421
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Jam
>However Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles by far contain the most changes, though many are simply bugfixes.
No idea what the bugfixes are. Probably minor shit that no one notices.

>>692424
nigger what

>>692437
3 did have a fair few bugs that get you trapped in walls, which I hear Jam has fixed.

>>691409
Dat logo... So 80s.

>>692450
>that shitty box

Don't you take care of your shit?

>>692450
>that fucking light gun
every fucking time

>>692463
We didn't buy shit to be collector's items back then.
Also its a pic from google.

>>692450
Tacticool as fuck

>>692461
I love the Japanese box, I've always wanted to own one
>>692463
That's a stock image

>>692474
The original Japanese hardware is a lot cooler too.

>>692490
How so?

>>692490
Meh. The color scheme doesn't match the system logo.

>>692498
Apparently earlier Genesis models looked like Japanese Mega Drives as well. They just look so much cooler.

Also, Japanese Sega CDs sat under the Mega Drive, not on the side. They had a front-loading disc tray similar to desktop computers

>>692529
we had a tray based drive in america too.

>>692498
Because this

>>692529
You nincompoop, The designs are the same worldwide. The Model 2 was just a later redesign. They are pretty much as common as each other.
Also, here you go, a Genesis with the slot loader design.

>>692335
In Japan, the Mega Drive got stomped hard by the PC Engine, which had a 1 year head start over the MD plus a larger install base. Also the PCE CD was widely supported, while the Mega CD didn't get nearly as many games in Japan.

In the west, it's the other way around. The TG-16 came out too late, and already looked a bit outdated to the Genesis, especially when it became known that it was using an 8-bit processor. Many games never left Japan, and few third parties wanted to invest in the TG-16. Not only that, but the Turbo CD died out within a few years, being a huge flop. Soon enough, it died out.

>>692551
*Tray design
Christ am I retarded this evening

>>692554
Huh, that's weird, I always thought the Mega Drive did really well in Japanland

>>692564
no, you're thinking of the Saturn

>>692551
I absolutely love how the Model 1 Sega CD looks. It's too bad they are much less reliable than the Model 2 CD though...

>>692590
Why's that? They're xboxhueg, but they look pretty badass...

>>692607
a lot more moving parts than the Model 2

>>692607
Because of the tray system, they break a lot faster than the Model 2 does. Same story with the PS2, by the way.

If you are good with this sort of thing, they are fixable though. Fixing CD-based systems can be a bitch.

>>692490
fuck you weeaboo not everything is better on the moon, elder god tier model reporting in.

HIGH DEFINITION GRAPHICS. TO BLOW YOU THE FUCK AWAY

>>692626
This is also the reason why so many modern consoles are moving away from using trays. Nintendo never used them, and starting with the PS2 Slim Sony hasn't used them either. Microsoft is the only one still using trays, but I wouldn't be surprised if they drop them with their new console.

>>692626
Why would they break more often? My computer's 10-year-old CD drive still works great.

>>692817
made cheaper than more expensive PC CD-drives

>>692817
They worked great for the time, but you can see many Sega CDs are breaking down. The Model 2's break less often because there are less fragile parts to break. They are 20 years old, after all.

>>692670
yeah but Sony moved to slotloaders. Those have that fancy Apple magic look to them but aren't they just as prone to internal breakage?

>>692869
pretty much, yes. Though a bit less than a tray loader.

>>692836
You mean it uses plastic or something internally? Wow, this is some bullshit. The damn disc units cost some serious fucking money and it turns out they were shit.

My CD drive's face plate is SNES-tier yellow due to its age, and I bet it still works. Haven't used optical media in ages though.

I guess this just proves that PC always got the superior hardware, then. I already knew that from an electronics point of view, but now it's also about build quality.

I suspect this trend is not going to continue in the future, though. As in, smartphones will start getting the best hardware instead. They already have the best screens already.

>>692869
Of course, but I do experience much less trouble with slotloaders for the Wii, PS3 and WiiU than I do with the X360's shitty tray, which refuses to open once in a while. This is probably because Microsoft uses bad quality trays though.

For computers this is much less of a problem because you can simply replace a CD drive for a decent price.

>>692880
What constitutes "the best" in smartphones is totally different from PCs. There's not much commonality of parts, either, like there is with consoles and PCs, since most phones are ARM-based.

Phone screens have higher PPI, true, but mostly because high-PPI displays become exponentially more difficult to manufacture and thus more expensive as they get larger. There's a reason the biggest commercially available OLED display is 13 inches; small-screen tech doesn't scale economically (yet).

>>692912
Computer DVD drives also come with manual releases for when they jam up, unlike the 360. Microsoft wanted a friend of mine to buy a new 360 because it had a jammed drive, and all I had to do to fix it was slide a part half a millimeter to the left.

>>692916
The technology is different, but the focus of the industry seems to be leaving the desktop computer and moving to the smartphones.

>>692921
Why do companies even have tech support if it's absolutely worthless? Picture related

Phone support is shit almost by definition. If shit like that worked, doctors would diagnose you over the phone too.

Any must have co-op games on this, I was thinking of picking up a few more games?

>>692942
Because for every person who is competent enough at computers to fix their own problems there are 100 who you'd be lucky if they could find the start bar.

>>692973
Get this, you won't regret it.

>>692973
This game.

>>692981
Gah, the PAL version is going for more than £30 on ebay...

Too rich for my blood

>>692983
Do they really solve people's problems? I think they just make them even more mad over just how long they were put on the line and how generic the script they're following is.

>lel have u restarded ur computer yet

Makes me GRIT MY TEETH. Does that shit solve anything but the most simple computer problems? It sure as FUCK doesn't solve a problem that's on your router.

>>692996
As a tech support guy myself, I can tell you that 90% of the time the problems people call in for are solved with a restart.

>>692994
just get an Everdrive

>>692321
Isn't the psone power adapter something like 7,5v?

>>693016
Definitely not in my experience. I for one try restarting on my own before calling tech support but it never works. And then the people there ask me to do the exact same steps I just did. Restart you computer. Your router.

Why would it work for them but not for me?

>>692996
I work tech support for a small point of sale company.
And for the most part, I help most people with their issues. The only people that are completely SOL for the most part are people that are trying to get us to fix stuff they provided on their own (and even then we might fix it) or bullshit their ISPs give them.

>>693050
If I had a dollar every time I was able to get a caller's system up and running after a restart even though they "restarted 8 times and nothing happened", I wouldn't be working tech support.

>>693050
Just because you aren't a drooling retard doesn't mean the vast majority of other callers aren't

>>693050
Going through the simple steps is a good way to rule out common problems.

I was a phone tech for a while as well, and there are a lot of very simple issues that the customer is too ignorant to think of or too knowledgeable and overlook entirely because of its simplicity.

>>693050

Those people assume you're an idiot because almost everyone they talk to actually IS an idiot.

Question, if I wanted to make an RGB cable for my genesis1 would it be as simple as connecting rca cables to an 8 din connector?

So I just got Grind Stormer.

I know that emulating the Arcade version is the way to go in terms of playing it, but in terms of collection, It seems pretty worthwhile.

Also, got Contra Hard Corps and Phatasy Star IV. Getting Phantasy Star II and III, Shining Force and the Punisher on Friday.

>>693059
What, restarting while talking to you on the phone has magical

>>693079
>>693070
What I don't understand is why I'm always getting told to restart my computer when I know from my router's status page that it's the router that can't connect to the ISP.

It means the problem could be anywhere between the router and the ISP, inclusive. But definitely NOT on the computer itself. If you told me to check the cables I'd do it without complaining even though I hate fucking around with them, but telling me to restart is like an insult.

Telling support people this kind of data never helped in my experience. I understand catering to 90% of people, but being unable to understand the information that I am able provide just pisses me off to no end.

>>693079
>>693070
What I don't understand is why I'm always getting told to restart my computer when I know from my router's status page that it's the router that can't connect to the ISP.

It means the problem could be anywhere between the router and the ISP, inclusive. But definitely NOT on the computer itself. If you told me to check the cables I'd do it without complaining even though I hate fucking around with them, but telling me to restart is like an insult.

Telling support people this kind of data never helped in my experience. I understand catering to 90% of people, but being unable to understand the information that I am able provide just pisses me off to no end.

>>693135
Because we get told from customers they did the common procedures before hand and they didn't work, but when they did it under our watch shit "magically" fixed itself.
For the most part, we say it because most people are either dumbasses, liars, or lying dumbasses, a few possibly trying to make an issue to get a free shit, and we have to weed them out any way possible so that we can solve the issue correctly.
Just because we didn't automatically jump to magically physical teleportation into the innards of the router within 5 seconds after you called doesn't mean we don't understand.
As a matter of fact why are we talking about tech support anyways? Shouldn't we talking vidya?

>>693202
Yeah you're right dude, that was quite the tangent there.

>>693202
AT&T here. Oh my fuck, the stories of customer stupidity I could tell. Alas, my ten minute break is over.

>>693223

http://www.cracked.com/article_17271_why-tech-support-sucks-look-behind-scenes.html
http://www.cracked.com/funny-8478-people-who-call-tech-support/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-reasons-guy-whos-fixing-your-computer-hates-you/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-idiotic-misconceptions-about-calling-customer-service/
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-terrible-jobs-anyone-can-and-no-one-should-do_p2/

My sides.

>>693223
Start a thread on >>>/g/ when you have the time. It's always nice.

So the genesis with the red stripe and the power switch, that is the model 1 right? I'm looking to buy an RCA input for my sega.

>>693059
but POS's aren't your typical computer system. Wouldn't it be understandable that people wouldn't know how to fix their terminals?

>>693336
What?

>>693336
Aside from our software, they're basically computers with Windows XP or 7 on them, at least in our case. So unless they're having issue with the program, it's not that far fetched to fix it on your own.

>>693349
POS = point of sale i.e. restaurant computer registers.

>>693265
Correct. It also has a volume control on it, if that helps you.

>>693354
that's the new systems with embedded windows. What about the older systems from goddamn IBM, or worse, one of those weird proprietary systems from a dead company.

>>693362
The oldest I've dealt with was an old station that had fucking Windows 95 running on an ancient version of our software.
We keep a good eye on our customers and try to get them upgraded as soon as possible.

Also, it's not usually the POS embedded Windows. It is literally Windows 7 or XP as in what you'd get for your computer, because a good number of our customers are basically running on desktop towers with touchscreen monitors with built in card readers, a receipt printer, and sometimes a cash drawer. We usually recommend this because if something fucks up, it's easily to get it out and swap it. All-in-ones are convenient until something breaks, then they become kitchen printer-tier assholes.

Also, I'll try to keep this board and thread related with one of the many reasons why Sega is great.

>>693391
The fuck am I looking at? What sort of electronics hell have you just unleashed?

>>693443
The Tower of Power
Genesis Does What Nintendon't

>>693391
I've been wondering, is it at all possible to rig X Band to work like how people can get the SegaNet to work on Saturn and Dreamcast modems? I'm not really sure how the software worked on it, but it works off direct dial, doesn't it?

>>693462
not likely, unless somewhere, in some neckbeard's basement, there's a backup copy of the server software

>>692656
"Audio and visual intelligent terminal high grade multipurpose use" > "high definition graphics"

>>693391
oh man, try working with a embedded win 3.1.1 setup. Fucking nightmare, and I didn't know a damn thing about POS's

>>693391
Man, I remember Pachukas old sega site with all the insane amount of hardware pics and sega cd protos.

I wish he hadn't chickened out.

>>693451
>no model 1 sega CD
>no genesis karaoke unit

>>693481
I agree but they should have americanized the mega drive to be stamped like the genesis. Mega Drive looks way too plain where as the Genesis is loud and makes me think awesome arcade action

>>693490
>embedded win 3.1.1
Mother of God, I'm sorry to hear that. Was that experience recent?

>>693472
You would think it wouldn't be too difficult since it's basically dialing another modem.

>>693530
I can't say for the Karaoke unit, but >>693391 has a model 1

>>693530
here you go, asshole.

They really should've made the 32x so it can stack multiple units. Sega would've had the first 128bit console on the market.

>>692973
here's what I have in my co-op gens folder for netplay:

Alien Storm
Arcus Odyssey
Biohazard Battle
Contra Hard Corps
Crack Down
Gain Ground
General Chaos
Golden Axe 2
Gunstar Heroes
Herzog Zwei
Lost Vikings
Master of Monsters
Mega Bomberman
Streets of Rage 2
Sunset Riders
Super Smash TV
TMNT Hyperstone Heist
Toejam & Earl
World of Illusion
Zombies Ate my Neighbors

>>692656

>>692456
Yeah, and it wasn't just 3, either. Growing up playing Sonic games, it happened to me alot in Sonic 3, S&K, even Knuckles' Chaotix and others. If you read the Sonic 3 manual, it seems like I remember the bugs being dismissed as "traps"

>>692456
That's just a side effect of sonic being blast-procecissingly, game-breakingly fast.

Literally.

>>692554
Not to mention, the jaapnese knew what should matter on the PCE CD

ACTUAL GAMES.

whereas the Sega CD got ruined by FMVullshit because of bad american aesthetics of the time, you know what i mean, the, GRAPHICS ARE WHAT MATTERS.

>>694279
And western devs still haven't figured out that graphics aren't the most important part.

>that feel when playing Snatcher on your SEGA CD Model 1

Feels so good, folks.

I really want to play Wonder Boy in Monster World, but I lost my goddamn AV cable somehow.

>>693572
sometime last year. Was trying to help out a business next door to my family's. In the end I told them to use their pre-war copper National Cash Register for shits n giggles.
>mfw they actually did as a joke
too bad antique stores don't deal with retro vidya

>>694279

To be fair the Sega CD saw its fair share of Japanese FMV games too. Time Gal, Road Avenger, and Revenge of the Ninja (all actually pretty good "games" for what they are).

People were simply fascinated by Dragon's Lair (which also had a Sega CD port) and now they could bring that kind of "game" to people's homes.

>>694668
time gal was hilarious

>>694683

Yeah, she's also a historical footnote for being among the first, if not the very first, female game protagonist in an action role.

Why is the model one so fucking sexy?

>>695245
Because you could plug in headphones and play video games without waking your parents on school nights.

>>692656
I got an HD model, with all cords, controllers, a few games and a gen 2 sega CD and like 5-6 sega CD games for $40 last week

Did I do good?

>>691349
Dahna?
Valis?
El Viento?
never played any of them, just recalling what I can that had female protagonists.

>>695256
pretty damn good.

>>695295
The most note worthy games are ecco 1 and 2 CIB. I also got a box of old game cords for $10 and it had a justifyer in there. I got a game that uses that for the sega CD with that other bundle

I also got an SNES for $20 off him with cords (- AC adapter)

>>695256
Here are some of the prices for Sega Shit I've acquired.

Model 1 Genesis, Model 1 Sega CD, 32X. All cabels even the one for 32X to Model 1 Gen, a copy of Sol Feace in the CD tray and all the RF shielding. $20.

3 Sega Genesis (two model 2s one model 1) 30 complete games, Gun Star Heroes and Kid Chameleon being the only note worth games (I wanted Gunstar Heroes and it was going for $30 at the time) all the video and AC cables. $30

3 Model 2 Genesis $15 shipped.

Sega Saturn $3 on ebay plus $7 shipping.

Sega Saturn $2 on ebay plus $10 shipping.

Sega Saturn with Netlink and 9 games, Tomb Raider only one worth mentioning. $30 shipped.

Saturn, Dreamcast, Ps1 all cables and one controller for each system. $25.

A Genesis and two 32X's all cables and ac adapters and several 3 button controllers. $15.

Most of that shit I got from a guy that sold shit on craigslist..he was the king of Sega and Nintendo shit and he was selling to me for a profit....I wish I got the killer deals he must have got but I still think I did really good.

Buuuuuut that was about 3 years ago when craigslist wasn't a steaming pile of shit. I wish Sega deals were still that abundant and cheap.