/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6929485
I don't understand the question.

>>6929485
They'd probably say that the games didn't age, they did. In reality, everything ages.

>>6929501
I mean I hate admitting games age too because I've had to argue with people who can't see that I still enjoy a game they claim "aged badly" but it's just an ugly reality from where I sit.

I don't know how serious these people are who are RRRRRRREEEEing about Mario 64 but it does give off a whiff that later games in the genre did what it does better.

It's called growing up

>>6929485
Can you give an example? I really never experienced anything like what you said.

>>6929526
So you admit you have the hands and reflexes of an old man and you need modern gaming accommodations like full-360 degree analog camera control and weapon wheels because older games with their simple digital cameras/look modes and pause-based weapon selection no longer feel right to play?

>>6929513
>I've had to argue with people who can't see that I still enjoy a game they claim "aged badly"
They "see" it, they're just baiting you.
>I don't know how serious these people are who are RRRRRRREEEEing about Mario 64
It's the classic "(popular, well-loved game) = shit" bait, and it works every time.
>but it does give off a whiff that later games in the genre did what it does better
I don't think it does, considering the same people use the same bait with every other popular modern game. The more popular a thing is, the more contrarian shitposters will flock to it to bait (You)s. /vr/ has never been different from /v/ in that regard, it's just that instead of seeing it about Souls games, BoTW, Odyssey, DotA 2, Overwatch, Fortnite; we get it with SM64, FF7, OoT, MGS, Thief, etc.

>>6929534
Sounds like you're just playing shit games, anon. Medal of Honor on the PS1 has a proper "modern" two stick analog control scheme.

>>6929534
Why'd you bother typing all that shit out?
Fuckin' moron.

>>6929485
>didn't know any better
what

>>6929573

>>6929558
>dismissing someone by insulting the time they took to write something

Sad.

>>6929594

Outdated is a better term. Who ever says aged is an idiot.

>>6929485
What do you mean "didn't know any better", wtf is that supposed to mean here?

>>6929764
I refuse to answer you because if I clarify my point, you'll just harp on how unclear it was at the start instead of letting it go, so fuck you.

>>6929485
I'd call it subhumanism on your part. But go ahead, keep mindlessly consuming products if it makes your tiny smooth brain happy.

>>6929558
That doesn't mean much coming from a moron who chopped their dick off because they think they're a woman. Dilate and fuck off, retard.

>>6929764
See >>6929576

I never stopped enjoying games that I liked as a kid.
Maybe I had an above average critical mind when I was a kid, I don't know, but I could always tell when bad games were bad. They were bad back then and they're bad today.
Limitations don't make games bad, bad design do. And bad design is independent of technology or trends or whatever.

>>6929770
I wouldn't have done that at all, all I wanted was a proper question that I could answer. Your question makes no sense. But whatever.

>>6929798
>Limitations don't make games bad
They can. As a kid, it was easy to give Goldeneye and Perfect Dark a pass for running at a silky smooth 8-12fps because they looked so impressive, but the gameplay felt like shit and the control scheme was terrible don't give me that shit about the dual controller setup, nobody used that. Play them at 60fps with a mouse and keyboard and suddenly they hold up remarkably well, free of the technical limitations that ruined what is otherwise incredible gameplay.

>>6929485
Games don't age, only the players do.

>>6929485
I call it the player aging

>>6929835
man, it's hard to imagine a person existing that is this retarded.

>>6929485
I've never really had an issue with playing old games for the first time because it lacks some user-friendly features of modern games or anything of that sort. Provided the mechanics of the game were alright to begin with, I recently tried to play some tomb raider game on the Dreamcast and the controls were so shite I dropped it pretty quickly but that's not necessarily due to it being a product of it's time.

You aged, you retarded braindead nigger faggot kike, not the game.

>>6929840
>>6929842
>>6929857
That analogy doesn't work. Give some 10 year old a virtual boy and they'll tell you it "feels old and sucks" and then go back to playing their switch. The real answer is that standards evolve over time, and you either evolve with them, or you're the bitter outhouse enthusiast railing against indoor plumbing.

>>6929781
>obsessed

>>6929874
People thought the Virtual Boy sucked back then too, son.

>>6931772
I think he chose that example deliberately.

Why, I'm not sure.

>>6929485
I'm one of those people, OP, and even without calling it aged you're still making the same bad argument anyway. You don't "know better" now, you're just spoiled by modern conveniences. I always use the analogy of film criticism: what film critic in their right mind would hold a black and white movie's lack of color against it? That's not a valid knock against the product, it's just a limitation of when it was made. So it is with early 3d platformers will less than perfect cameras or trends like backtracking and collecting that aren't as in vogue as they were then.

>>6929550
>It's the classic "(popular, well-loved game) = shit" bait, and it works every time.

In every good lie there's a kernel of truth. Same is true for trying to take a facetious position. If you want to be believable and manipulate people into bickering over your point, you need to say something that sounds reasonable.

>>6929485
Don't bother trying to please the "games don't age" retards. They're either not acting in good faith or too autistic to ever be happy with your word choice.

>>6931990
Don't bother trying to argue with the "games age" retards. They have zero arguments, only insults.

>>6929835
>EVERY GAME HAS TO HAVE PRECISE CONTROLS EVEN IF IT BREAKS THE GAME BECAUSE THE DEVS DESIGNED THE GAME AROUND THE LIMITATIONS OF THE INDIVIDUAL CONTROL SCHEME REEEEEEEEE
I bet you are one of those faggots who plays Doom with a fucking mouse instead of arrow keys.

>>6931825
What's even funnier is that his toilet analogy was also shit since 90s high-flow toilets out preform their modern low-flow toilet counterparts. It just goes to demonstrate how completely clueless zoomers are about the world.

>>6929874
With that outlook on life you're probably a pedo. Kys faggot.

>>6932718
This, unironically. New doesn't always equal better.

All this nonsense would be solved if retards like OP would just realize different people have different perspectives.

What's 'aged' to one person is fine to another.

I cannot play morrowind because to me it's outdated. To other people it's still an experience with a lot to offer.

>>6932675
>EVERY GAME HAS TO HAVE PRECISE CONTROLS
Yes. No matter how much you try to force this meme, "difficulty" through unresponsive controls is objectively trash design.

>>6929485
>If you contend that video games don't age

It doesn't matter what they think. Anyone who spouts that is just a lazy illiterate idiot who won't bother learning English. Their opinions are meaningless.

>>6929485
You've become more jaded and aren't willing to spend the time to get over the jankyness that was always there even as a kid. The game never changed. It didn't age, you did

>>6929874
Except that the virtual boy sucked even when it was new, wtf? Did you mean a gameboy? Are you really such a huge tard that you confused the two?

>>6934073
When you say something aged you're implying it changed. The video game didn't change, the player did. So no, it doesn't fit and you clearly don't understand english as well you thought

>>6934150
>When you say something aged you're implying it changed. The video game didn't change, the player did. So no, it doesn't fit and you clearly don't understand english as well you thought

You just proved my point. Learn English if you're going to communicate in it. I'm not wasting any more of my time on you idiots, if you accept illiteracy that's your problem.

>>6929485
I think Homeworld is better than Homeworld 2 even though mechanically one has certainly "improved" on the original, but its not a huge deal since sometimes older games have mechanics that are so much more suited for them and the levels were designed for them. Think Rayman versus Rayman 2, drastically different games, but they're both still very playable because of their game play. You can argue that Rayman 2 or 3 were the peak of the series, but that's in regards to them being 3D platformers as opposed to the 2D original.

>>6934147
>Except that the virtual boy sucked even when it was new, wtf?
Did you actually have one as a kid when it was released? If so, you're full of shit if you're claiming it didn't blow you away at the time.

Burnout. I played shit like Banjo so much becuase there was nothing I knew of that scratched the same itch as a kid. Now I've played Banjo too, I've reach Banjo capacity. And I can't get the same thrill out of new or old games like Banjo becuase I already drank so much from the Banjo well there isn't a thrist for it in me anymore. When we say we want more Banjo kinda games, we unfortunately mean we want that first taste of Banjo games again, but we can never get that, we can only get more of what we already had our fill of.

Replace Banjo with anything else peoole claim are only liked becuase of nostalgia.

>>6929534
>weapon wheel requires less reflexes than pausing and taking your sweet ass time to switch weapons

Nice bait moron

>>6934223
All they do is bait and argue. As if their not understanding should be grounds to weaken English to coddle them. They're some of the worst trolls around here and that really says something.

>>6934161
Kek, everytime, the same low iq rhetoric with this gay nonsense picture from the same guy. It's time to let it go, chief.

>>6929494

He’s talking about when you were a little kid everything seemed so great and now when you go back and do the same things they suck but during the time you enjoyed them.

It’s a philosophical question. There is a great passage in the book of Ecclesiastes concerning this.

>>6934191
You can't go back and play retro collectathons that you missed as a kid and enjoy them? That's sad, anon.

>>6934239
I'll never let it go when you retards are trying to diminish English because you're too fucking stupid to learn it properly.

>>6932675
> EVERY GAME HAS TO HAVE PRECISE CONTROLS
> acting like this is unreasonable
If a game has imprecise controls and the developers acknowledge it and build the game around it, it still has shitty imprecise controls. Fuck off.

>>6929485
You aging.
Not the game. The game is exactly the same as when you got it. Your expectations, your skill, your nostalgia. They all effect your experience

>>6929485
i call it a product of its time

>>6937296
Nope. Congrats on still not getting it after all these years. Illiterate retards.