/vr/ - Retro Games

what are you even talking about? what video game music even sounds anything like that wank?

>>6906904
Not him, but Mother 3's "F-F-F-Fire!" track sounds a whole lot like Genesis' Riding The Scree.

>>6906902

>>6906902
Yuzo Koshiro. He was inspired by house and EDM.

>>6906906
Just listened to it. it's not prog. I think OP just wanted to have a prog thread but didn't want to have it on /mu/

>>6906904
If you played the NES Mario or Zelda half the tracks are plagiarized by deep purple songs.

>>6906919
everyone and their grandma has played mario. go ahead and list the deep purple songs. also deep purple isn't prog . I seriously don't know why you made this thread

>>6906904

the final boss music in final fantasy 6 is ELP worship

Let's not talk about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDvMuGz-PWY&t=12

>>6906910
>Koshiro is nothing but SOR meme
Listen to more of his music pleb

>>6907017
Okay. Which part of his Actraiser, Etrian Odyssey, or Super Adventure Island tracks sound like prog rock? I'll be awaiting your answer.

prog influence is weirdly prevalent in retro soundtracks, isnt it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmn7siswJY

>>6906912
Listen to both tracks I mentioned back to back though, you can hear the similarity.

Kota Hoshino. I don't even think you can put Evergrace's OST into a genre.

>>6906904
Doom straight up samples King Crimson

>>6908759
To be fair Doom also sampled metal songs too

>>6908882
yeah gotta love the clavinet synth cover of Master of Puppets

>>6908882
It samples huge piles of heavy metal, but also some other rock (King Crimson, Argent), even a few bits from movie soundtracks here and there.

>>6908759
>>6908882
>>6908983
I don't think you retards realize what "sampling" means. Being influenced by something does not mean you "sampled" it.

>>6909014
Bro, Doom's music is straight up sampled at parts, there's very noticeable samples from Slayer, Metallica, Alice In Chains, Sergeants Of Death, Body Count, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, etc, etc. It isn't even subtle.

>>6906904
all of it

>>6909014
This is really, really old knowledge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y3RWlDz_AA
If you listen to the unused tracks for Doom and Doom 2, a lot of them were earlier versions of tracks used in the final games, and they sound even closer to the songs they're imitating, not to mention a few unused tracks which are straight up .midi recreations of known songs.

>>6906902
Naofumi Hataya, dare I say.

>>6907046
The streets of rage guy did the soundtrack for Etrian Odyssey holy shit

>>6909179
>>6909191
That's called covering, not sampling. Sampling is when you record the literal sound waves from another recording to manipulate and use in your recording.

>>6909513
Is it really a cover if you copy some of the beats/bars and then add them into your own track? It sounds like you're arguing on a very semantic point, .midi, .mus, and other tracker kind of formats cannot be recordings of anything, therefore you wouldn't be able to literally sample the sound waves in question.

It would be closer to say remix, but that's not appropriate either, because Running From Evil is very obviously not just a remix of Hangar 18.

>>6909535
>.midi, .mus, and other tracker kind of formats cannot be recordings of anything, therefore you wouldn't be able to literally sample the sound waves in question
Hence why it’s not called sampling.

>>6906904

>>6907438
tribal with elements of freak folk

>>6909179
Didn’t Doom’s team have a lawyer specifically hired to assure their music was as legally distinct as possible?

>>6906904
https://youtu.be/MNnHoPn1Vic

>>6909536
Which is a really semantic point to argue, because it's the practical equivalent of making a sample, because it's closely imitating copying riffs and bars from songs.

>>6909542
Bobby Prince himself was a lawyer, and it's been said that he knew how to stay within the legal limits of sampling, but I don't think there's any clear boundaries for that.
Recently, he himself said that there's not, and that he would only make them the music under the condition that they took full legal responsibility for it, because he figured it was so close that they really would get sued, and into oblivion, and that he's surprised that they never were.

His words, not mine.

>>6906925
I wasn't the guy who made this thread but I know what OP is talking about
https://youtu.be/toonXjN2wTM?t=120

>>6909568

>>6906904
anything by Follin

>>6909535
>Is it really a cover if you copy some of the beats/bars and then add them into your own track
thats interpolation. sampling is easily explained if you think of hip hop - you take a previously recorded sound/sample and put it on your song. literally transferring one file/recording onto another. PLAYING the same bars/chords/arrangement is more of an interpolation, depending on how much you have added or changed. a cover is what you think it is, replaying of a song

the trifecta of early nerdom
>D&D
>prog rock
>computer games

>>6909760
You're doing a far better job at clarifying things than the other guy.

>>6909773
if you interpolate pieces of a song without giving any credit (ie money) to the artists, you could be facing a lawsuit. think of the ghostbusters theme and how huey lewis and the news sued the band who made it and won, due the theme sounding like their own song, 'I need a new drug.' its shaky ground to use what sounds like someone else's arrangement without giving any credit. it all depends on the similarities of course, and how butthurt the band is. a lot of golden age rock n rollers had to pay blues artists for using their songs, despite the new songs sounding somewhat different. a lot of times people can get away with it as long as its under the radar or its different 'enough.' but that could be up to a judge. so could a lawsuit happen to doom? I guess. some of these things are ignored and some go to court.

>>6910831
>so could a lawsuit happen to doom? I guess
Seems like going on almost 30 years there could be some sort of statute of limitations or something, or maybe the plaintiff might be looked at as failing to be protecting their copyrighted material.

>>6909762
You could just have sci-fi and fantasy in general

https://youtu.be/aPrJAEYlrxI

>>6912760
Now this is just straight up shameless

>>6909217
He also has a YouTube channel he posts to on a rare basis: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe_lUL6kLzZLS49SIdHly5A

>>6911721
its like lifetime of the composer and 70 years after their death its protected for

>>6907046
Not supporting any arguments here but this song's a good one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5xCCnB1X5g

>>6907286
Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz0fAz9n_Os

that didn't take too long

>>6906902
>prog rock
it's literally just from the same musical tradition that a lot of music attempts to borrow from.

>>6916948
>prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oajSKyt9GPM

>>6906902
prog is for people who were born before 1960 and nobody else. that means you, zoomers.

bump for retard justice

>>6909606
that particular riff is something from classical music called moonlight sonata and is free domain I think.

https://youtu.be/nT7_IZPHHb0?t=167

https://youtu.be/tRkHqw58PPk?t=157

>>6906902
I can think of one.
Tim Fucking Follin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J0H5ah1G7A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz0fAz9n_Os
Probably one of the best examples of prog music or the closest you're going to get in videogames.