/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===

450ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Deadline: November 10th
Rules: >>6837387
MAPEDIT: https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Discord: https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu


=== NEWS ===

[9-19](Saturn homebrew) HELLSLAVE SAGE 2020
https://sonicfangameshq.com/forums/showcase/hellslave-project-z-treme.724/

[9-17] Anon is working on a street judge mod:
>>6886250
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3umgt25rd9d3r6j/MEG-1.pk3?dl=0

[9-16] Quake 1 Remastered Soundtrack out on vinyl
https://store-uk.nin.com/products/quake-vinyl

[9-14] La tailor girl updated to 1.76C:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=420#p1165358

[9-12] Ruskies release the HD pack for Quake 2, Reckoning, and Ground Zero(Works on Yamagi, guns soon).
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-the-reconing-ground-zero-hi-res-texture-pack

[9-12] Patches 227j and 469 for Unreal and UT in the works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0c

[9-10] Sound replacement for Quake 2:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-heavy-metal-q2hm/news/quake-ii-is-revving-up-with-guns-strogg-and-heavy-metal

[9-10] 2048 Units of /vr/ is updated to 1.2, including a BFG replacement for 2048 Guns.
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bj4nvtd5wjbyegq/2048unitsvr_v1.2.zip?dl=1
2048 Guns: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l51hgsqhcg2v99e/2048GUNS.zip?dl=1

[9-9] twad, a terminal based wad launcher for Doom was released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116457-twad-a-wad-launcher-for-the-terminal/

[9-9] Hideous destructor got updated: https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor/releases/tag/v4.4.2b
So as Ugly as sin: https://github.com/caligari87/Ugly-as-Sin/releases/tag/v4.4.2b-1
and there is now a site to see all the addons done for Hideous destructor: https://accensi.gitlab.io/hdportal/index.html

[9-6] ROTT is getting an official source port for PC & consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPFS99n4X2I

=== PREVIOUS ===

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TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST.

In light of the new rules I decided to sit down and make infographics for Serious Shite; one for basic info and the other for modding. Personally I’m still opposed to the rule changes, but since this is the world we're living in now I don’t think adding Sam, Noone Lives Forever, Painkiller, RTCW, Timesplitters etc. would change much in the general. Gonna post ‘em once and let the “community” decide whether to include them or not. Either way mods can still suck a fat one for not making /v2k/ or just not changing this board’s rules.

>>6902403


Because the main character represents everything about the game.

>>6902415

>>6902415
This is the 90s fps thread.
But I still like Sam.

>>6902431
It was just retro until the board change, someone changed it to 90s, so going off of old board logic sam is now retro

>>6902415
Is Revolution the definitive version of the first and second encounters or is it the HD ports?

>>6902415
>>6902425
damn im fucking retarded. ignore the first file, its an older version.
>>6902431
>>6902443
yeah i know, it was just a thing i did in my spare time. its up to everyone to decide what we wanna do, not like ill piss my pants and spam the thread with my images if people say no

Anyone else enjoying some spoopy ass Doom wads? I'm playing through Happy Time Circus 2 with Dark Doom and it's really atmospheric, loads of bullshit traps though. I'd recommend saving every few minutes because it's long as fuck and has no autosaves.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=65273&hilit=happy+time+circus

>>6902464
there really isnt a "definitive" version as theres genuinely a dozen+ releases of TFE, each with their own changes.
revolution is more authentic than HD, but i think its really up to someone's personal preference.
if you want the absolute 100% authentic experience play Gold

>>6902401
repost for linking in the next thread:

======= 450ml of /vr/ Rules =======
* The project will officially begin on September 10th 2020

* No restrictions on theme or level size, just make sure it’s achievable by the deadline.

* This project will use the “Blood Texture Pack v03 Beta”, you can find it here http://blood.freeminded.de/index.php?section=misc&id=593
or in the MAPEDIT archive https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit

* Custom MIDI’s are allowed and encouraged, submit them in a .zip along with your map file.

* If you want custom messages in the .ini, put a text document in your submitted .zip file with the order of your messages and details on when you want them to appear. Example: (Message1 “A clever and witty message”, shown after the player picks up the skull key)

* Submit your maps link here or on the discord channel. Be sure to specify it’s for 450ml, along with your maps title and author name. MIDI and messages are optional.

* Make sure your submitted map is beatable in Nblood and Build Gdx

* Map’s must be submitted by November 10th 2020, Try to make them beatable by Halloween.

*Have fun and be sure to share your progress screenshots with everyone :)
===============================

>>6902480
Cool, can't wait to play.

>>6902425
I played fusion in multiplayer with some dudes, It allows vr crossplay so I was trickshooting dual wielded rockets in different directions and fucking with peoples minds.

>>6902443
Sam IS retro
But that doesn't mean he's appropriate for the thread. /DOOM/ was about 90s shooters before the rules change, and the title got changed to reflect that it's still about 90s shooters
Honestly I don't actually care if you talk about Sam here, it's not like it's going to take up much thread space and it's adjacent to the type of games released in the 90s, I'm just not remotely a fan of you trying to change the thread on principle. There's no reason we need to go along with the mods' faggotry

>>6902568
I don't recall any discussion on changing the name, people just started to change it as the thread got swarmed with trolls. I doubt the majority of posters mind the new board rules or discussion of non 90's shooters, half the thread is one guy calling half life and quake 2 retarded anyways.

>>6902568
>https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz
Thief II Initial release date: 2000
Deus Ex Initial release date: 2000

>>6902397
What would be a good system to run doom/quake mods on? i'd be willing to soend $1k or so for a decent system.

>>6902726
>ryzen 5 3600
>16 gigbs of ram
>1660super

you see those specs? probably higher than that for gzdoom because the shiny stuff like the slaughter spectrum still runs slow as shit even with the vulkan renderer enabled

Give me some UDoom wads, I think I played all the classics already

>>6902793
No End in Sight
Deathless
Double Impact
Doom the Way Id Did + Ultimate Doom the Way Id Did

>>6902475
Interesting.

>>6902793
I second Deathless, it's very nice.

>>6902793
Nihility

>>6902806
>>6902819
ty but I already finished those, I'm looking for less known stuff

>>6902823
thanks

>>6902836
How about Outbreak of Evil or They Flesh Turned Into a Draft-Excluder?

>>6902484
Thanks for that, you saved me some effort.
t. The guy who wrote that post.

>>6902857
looking good, thanks anon

>>6902806
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114671-big-vanilla-wad-pack-maximum-doom-the-way-kid-did-updated-aug-12th/

>>6902568
If it largely functions on typical premises of shooters of the 90s and early 2000s, I largely don't care.

People here play Hideous Destructor, a mod that for the most part makes Doom play extremely little as typical 90s shooters (though largely having to adhere to the design of Doom and its megawad's levels), it wont change that the regulars are for the most part interested in 90s shooters and their mods & levels.

Alf saved /vr/

Would an Ultrakill DOOM mod even be possible? I'd love to use the coin ricochet mechanic in DOOM.

>>6902793
Doom Damnation

>>6903081
Shut the fuck up Alf.

>>6902475
piggybacking on your topic, what are some good atmospheric spooky doom WADs that aren't just jumpscare fests?

>>6903085
I believe someone was making a Devil May Cry. I dont see why that couldnt be made into a makeshift Ultrakill one. Honestly after all the stuff done over the years in GZ engine, I no longer ask whether its possible, but whether someone will actually do it.

>>6903096
Abysm: Dawn of Innocence

What are some eye-candy vanilla-ish wads in the same vein as Ancient Aliens, Saturn X, Sunlust, Valiant and Eviternity? Craving more beautiful wads without switching to something like The Golden Souls.

>>6902401
Demo for Ashes: Afterglow is out.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612

Just beat Blood. Great game. Out of these five, what should I play next brehs:

- Dusk
- System Shock 1
- Ion Fury
- Valiant (Doom)
- Eviternity (Doom)

>>6903183
Look at the top 10 for each year on thr cacoawards. There's some good stuff on there.

>>6903194
Eviternity. Probably will blow you away.

>>6903194
Eviternity>Ion>Dusk>Valiant>System Shock
Gameplay wise Ion will be the most similar, asethetically itll be Dusk, but Eviternity is probably the best megawad ever made.

>>6903194
I loved Blood and Dusk, so definitely put it on your list.

>>6903221
What this anon said. Eviternity is Doom 2 perfected. Also: Play Ancient Aliens if you haven't already.

>>6903194
Eviternity is the sole reason I want Crispy Boom, but even in prboom plus it's gorgeous.

>>6903096
lilith.pk3 and Unloved

>>6903092
Half Life will never be respected here.

>have auto work to do
>tired of poking at engine bay waiting for parts
>work on maps again
>get tired of poking at brushes waiting for inspiration

>>6902397
https://www.redbubble.com/i/throw-blanket/FIREBLU-by-tastyspleentv/45494522.16D0B

>>6903273

>>6903279
So it shares your fate Alf.

>>6903273

>>6903285

Eviternity it is.

>>6903238

Yeah I did ancient aliens. Was a great old time.

>>6903290
seething

>>6903290
Congratulations, you fed the troll. You should be raped.

>>6903293
>Some of you didn't even post here but you know who you are
Once again, I still don't know what she meant by this 3 years later

Jannies, Alf is evading bans again!

>>6903313
Only people that feed trolls should feel bad. Trolls themselves are super cool dudes that deserve respect though.

>>6903319
Doomworld drama doesn't make sense. Not long ago there was this drama around this wad with the cringy lara croft easteregg. Still don't understand why they made such a big topic out of it.

>>6903194
>Best
SS1
>Most like blood
Ion Fury

>>6902397
Why do FedoraPS fans throw such a fit at "story" and "cutscenes" but nobody seems to have an issue with Dark Forces?

Damn, doom threads slow now. IP count also much lower.
Thanks whoever keeps bumping this thread, it would die very fast otherwise.

>>6903348
who exactly are you strawmanning

>>6903348
Because the stupid mouse probably would sue our asses for even mentioning their brand.

>>6903351
Who cares, you're supposed you get mad and derail the thread.

>>6903358
When did we become a /v/ thread?

>>6903358
my bad i almost forgot nu-/vr/ is now /consolewar/

>>6903364
>nu-

You have to go back, larper.

>>6903351
Wasn't bait, it's a real question and don't tell me FPS fans love story and cutscene now.

>>6903369
>pretending everything is fine

>>6903332
thats ZDoom drama. as bad as DW can get it's nowhere close to the bullshit over there

>>6903085
It is possible but you'd need a fuckload of ZScript to get it working. It'd probably need to use some particles and voxels/low-poly models over sprites in order to make some mechanics work in GZDoom such as the coin flip (sprites and rapid z-movement are a recipe for disaster most of the time).
>>6903103
Demonsteele stopped developemnt ages ago which is kind a shame. At least it still works fine in 3.4.1.

>>6903376
I left this thread for months because of dramashitters in the lead up to Eternal and I saw the gradual and dramatic decline of the site in general thruout 2014-17, what makes you think I was under the illusion things were fine?

>>6903379
I was actually reffering to something entirely different from Demonsteele. I believe it was Doom Eternal themed? Unfourtantely the only name that springs to mind is 'Slayer's Testament' but I know thats the Quake mod. Im also not thinking of D4V/D4T,its much newer.

>>6903394
>me me me
anon, wanna know an easy way to improve this general?

>>6903398
Maybe Eternal Slayer?

>>6903358
Depending on how you look at it, either about 2 years ago, or last month

>>6903415
That was it, desu its a bit less impressive than i remember it looking.

>>6903435
You're welcome anon.

>>6903378
Nope, the guy who freaked out over a tortured Lara easter egg was a DW admin and actually banned the mod, while its still up without issue on ZDoom forums.

>>6903463
the Rachael post you guys were talking about is from ZD

>>6903284
If it doesn't flash and ruin the bitrate while I shoot my amateur porn, I don't want it.

>>6903293
>>6903285
I wish he wasn't so petty about lilith.pk3, because I want to respect him for effort and talent he put into GzDoom (even though he's willing to give up a bit too easy on some features in favor of making the code easier to maintain).

I'm getting filtered by Scythe's MAP30. Is this a theme on Scythe 2 as well, starting with 2min maps and then ending with slaughtermaps breaching almost 1k monsters total?

>>6903636
Learn the speedrun strat.

>>6903348
I think the reason why some classic FPS fans like to shit on story and cutscenes is because of Carmack's Porn analogy.

>>6902401
New Arcane Dimensions version teased.
https://twitter.com/BafuBal/status/1307445748401876992

>>6902397
Go fuck yourself loser

>>6903657
The big knight looks really gay and doesn't belong in Quake at all. The small one looks kind of gay, but needs to be more Quakeified.

>>6903348
Because Dark Forces is good

>>6903664
I'm getting Hellgate London vibes from it.

>>6903662
?

>>6903664
is everything gay to you?

>>6903712
Not you bb but we can change that

>>6903682
now that's a blast from the past.

If you think about it, making Doom maps is kind of like having sex with a woman. It's straight-forward, it's easy, everyone's done it. Whereas Build mapping is more akin to fucking a wild lioness. Only the most dedicated will even attempt it. Many will fail disastrously. But if you know what youre doing you can get great results out of it. Does that make sense?

>>6903815
No, sorry, I only make Quake maps.

>>6903815
Nah I'm a Trenchbroom kinda guy.
>>6903821
Based

>>6903821
I've worked with all 3. In this paradigm, Quake is a man's ass. A little more difficult to get into, but not unfeasible for the average person.

>>6903830
>Quake is a man's ass. A little more difficult to get into, but not unfeasible for the average person.

>>6903815
I think I understand, but why specifically a lioness? A bear could beat a lion.

ALRIGHT, TIME TO REVOLUTIONIZE QUAKE WITH MY MAPMAKING GENIUS, 100 BILLION IQ RIGHT HERE
>make corridor
>try and squeeze in a million details
>get bored and play some weeb game
>repeat

>>6903830
>man's ass

>>6903830
Quake is masturbating alone in a dark room with Pretty Hate Machine on loop from an RCA tape deck, with the only lube being your own spit and the only fap material being a torn page of the 1999 Heavy Metal Magazine monthly calendar.

>>6903839
Do you have one with HALT, or at least him pointing the gun with STOP?
>>6903838
Always broad strokes first. Polish is for the end.

>>6903839
>>6903834
a grisly grotto if you will, a dirty brown slipgate.

>>6903830

>>6903843

>>6901909
I like UT'99 Flak design more than original, because original is a grayish boring thing with weaker animation. In '99 it looks like a heavy duty industrial tool, with simpler design to suit the mundane work purpose, and animation looks weightier and more impactful, also shows better difference between primary and secondary fires.
Later iterations began overdesigning it, ading extra hanging plates/wires/tubing that looks weak and ready to break.

Out of OG Unreal I like designs of Dispersion pistol, ASMD (amsd projectile itself looks cooler in UT'99 though) and Minigun. The other guns look better in UT'99.

>>6901878
>>6901895
what are these map and mod?

>>6903850
How d'you feel about the UT4 Flak cannon?

>>6903850
Based opinion. Always thought Unreal's animation was really weak for being such a powerful weapon.

>>6903853
It may be a step in the right direction from UT3 design, but still has elements of said overdesign - namely the tubing, that has no reason to be exposed other to make design more visually complex, and would've been concealed within the case on an actual gun had it been designed by IRL standards, unless those tubes require regular manipulation from the user.
Extractor bits are nice touch, but they as well does not come in such abundance - usually 1 or 2 tops. I know that they hold the heavy flak charge, but again, 2 would've been enough.
They look like they have been designed under impression from AR-15 bolt locking lugs.
In fact such amount of extractors complicates the ejection process -which is why there's usually only one-two, with a static piece on the slide's end of travel, that tips the case off the extractor, causing it to eject.

Also it looks less bulky in UT4, than UT'99 one, and I like that bulkiness.

>>6903856
I've actually spliced and tweaked Marisa's DoomReal to rebalance the damage, and make U1 minigun, flak and RL to use their UT models, and ASMD to shoot UT style shots.
Now I have to find a way to make some pickups more noticeable, sadly I'm bad at modding and my code abilities are limited to copypaste.
What I'd like is to add vertical rising white paricles that dim and disappear after 2 feet or so to the ammo pickups. Can somebody tell me how to do that? I tried spawning particles in the loop part of the ammo's existenc, but that does not seem to do anything.

>>6903835
Wolf is weaker than both, but he doesn't performs in circus.

>>6903928
I'll be on the lookout for it.

why did deck decide to deck a kamikaze at the end of toxic traverse

I have updated the map I posted in previous thread. Not much has changed, but now there's no arch-viles in the end (But window for Arch-vile in the front is a bit bigger, so grabbing chaingun is trickier)

https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=100088

How about this?

>>6904212
This graph makes no sense.

>>6904212
Some people have absolutely no sense of direction. Playing videogames in a 3d space can help develop these skills and even re-write your brain to become better at it but some people are straight up devoid of any sense of direction. I forgot a map option even existed first time I played through Doom it was so straight forward.

I respect Ross for making videos on older obscure videogames while giving most of them an overly fair shake, but I seriously want to see him livestream a playthrough of Doom just to see how bad he is.

>>6904212
Far Cry should be much further right
DOOM should be in the middle, we have shit like Hexen which is much more puzzle-y and bullshit. Unless you're paying a wad explicitly aiming to be a switchhunt puzzle game (e.g. Eternal DOOM) or a massive map with 4000 enemies it's not hard to progress in a DOOM level.

Sex is cool and all but have you played Alien Vendetta Map 20?

>>6904212
cue that one picture of half life where the dev talks about how one playtester always took the wrong direction

>>6904241
the egypt level?

>>6902401
Doom II: 25 Years on Earth: One Year Late edition has been uploaded to idgames
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/ph_25yoe

Woof! 2.3.0 released
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/download/woof_2.3.0/Woof-2.3.0-win32.zip

>>6903096
UnLoved

Fears

Splatterhouse 3D

The City of the Damned Apocalypse

all good TC's heavy on the atmosphere.

There's also Nightshift, not a proper TC at all, but it changes the weapon roster, adds in snow, lots of nice moody effects.

>>6904321
Link this instead so people can actually see the changelog.

https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases/

https://bethesda.net/en/article/1iLtcvwY6Nb1GeKADyDUEX/why-microsoft-is-the-perfect-fit

>Under the terms of the agreement, Microsoft will acquire ZeniMax Media for $7.5 billion in cash.
>Microsoft now owns DOOM

>>6904552
Doom 95 rerelease when

srb2 is probably the only doom engine game that's improved by 3D models. how come no one made good models for doom?

>>6904619
It's not so much about the models as it is the animations. Enemies having 2-frame animation cycles looks jarring as fuck when it's in true 3D.

>>6904631
It's also a perspective thing. 2D sprites to 3D models looks fine in a third person game where their back is almost always facing you. Once you're able to freely rotate around them it looks weird as hell if their still based on the 8 way directions.

>>6904631
GZDoom interpolates between frames if you're using models though.

>>6904552
So...Todd goes Xbox then? Can't wait for the Rerererelease of Skyrim exclusively on Series X then.

>>6904552
If Carmack were dead, he would be rolling in his grave.

>>6904650
Interpolation won't matter much in a 2-frame walk cycle. You could have better looking models even without interpolation if the animations had a lot of frames.

>>6904694
More like Carmack and Romero is Happy because this means that the Altmans and the kikes doesn't rule Bethesda and id Anymore

>>6904552
The good thing about this is that
Bethesda and Id doesnt need to care about the PS5 fucking the game's hardware and modding this time around.

Carmack won the long game
and possibly because the FBI is after the Altmans

>>6904552
Is there any chance of this endangering the modding scene for classic Doom at all?

>>6904780
Doom engine is opensource, nobody can recall it.
The worst they could do is to stop selling original wads or something, but who cares.

>>6904780
they can't do shit, Doom's source code was made public decades ago, the only part of classic Doom they legally own are the assets for it

they can't sue anyone for modding it unless they start going after individual modders for using the Imp sprite they technically own or some shit, and good fucking luck with that

why did Carmack sell id to Zenimax again? I thought he hated closed source judaism

>>6904819
TES used to be very mod-friendly, so that's probably why. Only recently they started really closing down.

>>6904819
Activision sold them, and i believe it was Tim willits fucking everything again, look how hollenstead left the CEO chair to join Nerve

>>6904823
TES Is mod friendly, the problem is the community who became hostage of pozzed trannies and retards destroying everything.
CC Exists because bethesda wanted to filter the trash and hire the good ones who they can trust, one of them being trainwiz, who /v/ and /tesg/ gates it because his morrowind mod became canon

the community nowadays is full of jealous idiots and sexual deviants who would rather involved with drama, and even remove mods over political butthurt instead of modding for fun. which happened in the past

>>6904212
i wouldn't put a single game in that picture where it has been placed on the graph

>>6904834
>remove mods over political butthurt instead of modding for fun

On the other hand, anything ApolloDown made entailed a fair deal of save bloat.

>>6904819
tim willits probably

reminder that bethesda claimed that they invented FPS at e3

>>6904879
Dude, i used to make part of SunJeong/immy/Rektas disscord group and Jeir Docteur's one
its literally a circlejerking over political shit or Modding drama because of korean or DAZ assets

>>6904834
>who /v/ and /tesg/ hates
Pretty sure he's well liked apart from TESfags for /v/lancer and his current project.

>>6904908
its mostly Jealous fuckwits calling him and others a sellout because of the early CC stuff being garbage with him defending it.
but they don't know that is mostly because they are limited to make it work on the Sony Hardware, which is garbage

or that all of this started because ellianora, a certain trash who calls himself the best modder ingame for making a patch, and Enai wanted to make a quick buck as Minecraft modders were doing.

>>6904834
>the community nowadays is full of jealous idiots and sexual deviants who would rather involved with drama

why does it feel like this sentence could be applied to the entire internet

>>6904552
I don't have a good feeling about this

>glance at the /v/ sticky about this
>the vast majority of posts are just mindless spam like "niggerniggernigger" or "cope & seethe"
>people dumping porn
>people dumping feet pics
>POGGERS
>BASED BASED BASED

what the fuck happened to this site

>>6904980
we've gone past full retard. We've hit ironic retard, which is to go even further beyond. The trick is to detach yourself from as much of this shitty site as possible, have a handful of threads you frequent, and when those die or go to shit, you'll have a better shot of finally leaving this dumb place.

>>6904980
Mecha Hitler won the human algorithm wars.

>>6905000
nice trips, but I really don't want to leave this place without an alternative. I like discussing old and obscure games with likeminded people in a forum where censorship doesn't really exist and you don't get banned for being impolite, and I can't find anywhere else.

>>6904694
>Carmack happy

>>6905064
>Microsoft has been a good parent company for gaming IP's

I have no words for this.

>>6904552
bye switch doom eternal

>>6905013
>I really don't want to leave this place
they already left you out when killed /vr/ for this shit

>>6903639
HOLY SHIT THIS IS FUN

>>6905070
I actually looked what companies microsoft closed and I only cared for lionhead and the 20 years basement anal raping of rare

>>6905013
Loss of essence. Everything got Kubricked and now you're apparently either a commie, a nazi or a patriot. Just a label. Nothing more. But, the end game remains the same. Gather your allies, find out where their underground mines/sites are, seek refuge and repopulate. Could take a 100 years but it can be done. Or, if the corruption runs too deep, start throwing cream pies at each other until it all blows up.

>>6905110
I don't think the people spamming cope/seethe as fast as they can give a shit about politics or philosophy.

>>6905064
Microsoft Commander Keen confirmed

>>6905070
Zenimax basically told Carmack to fuck off, Microsoft didn't. I don't think he gives a shit about the industry as a whole.

>>6905116
>Loss of essence
The rest doesn't matter.

>>6905136
I don't think it has anything to do with essence anon. The hordes of spammers seem to just want a fast dopamine fix they get from being annoying. I'm not really sure how to counteract people like that except through strict moderation by banning it quickly, but of course the mods here don't really care so that won't happen.

>>6904552
Anyone remember this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN0K58EfJSg
He knew, he always knew.

>>6905149
You could argue that's a loss of essence in its own way when a poster has been reduced to one or two word posts for the sole purpose of annoying people to make their brains tickle the right way.

I do agree the little cumstains should be banned though. But the mods can't handle that along with them not caring.

>>6905105
Rare fucked themselves. They had ample opportunity to make something good, but they lost a shit ton of money on nuts and bolts and had to resort to kinect titles.

>>6905149
That's exactly what loss of essence means, Mandrake. They just want to get off. No value. Just empty relief and nothing to show for it.
You can't ban phone posters. Quick and easy to get a new IP and range bans would be too severe, or so they say.

>>6905175
then what is the solution?

>>6905178
Either start your own forum or call the president.

>>6903096
>>6904351
Shut Up and Bleed is a gameplay mod that adds more deadly and spooky monsters and Resident Evil inspired weapons, like shotgun, crossbow, grenade launcher, etc

>>6905212
I really like a lot of Shut Up and Bleed but the lack of ammo combined with how durable most enemies are makes it into a cheese with the knife simulator real fast.

https://mobile.twitter.com/romero/status/1308031274427310080
in case people have doubts about pirating these old games

>>6905238
yeah, I assume they wanted to evoke the Resident Evil/Survival Horror idea of limited resources but most Doom maps are designed with more monsters and ammo in mind

>>6903653
Which is fair, because a lot of people can't tell a particularly worthwhile story anyway, so better cut that out and focus on the gameplay instead. Doom and Quake do just fine with an occasional text crawl, if anything it leaves room for your imagination.

>>6902401
Microsoft buys zenimax->bethesda->id
I'm sure it's been said, just figured it's newsworthy for the next thread.

>>6904212
Doom's level design is straight forward, Wolfenstein 3D had far more obtuse layouts to it, and largely lacked a lot of good landmarks.

I think Ross just is shit at navigation.

>>6904237
Yep.

>>6905070
He's not really wrong. Compared to most they've been fine. They're a shit company in many regards and bill gates wants to inject you with the mark of the beast lol but they're usually pretty decent for games.

>>6905369
I just hope they won't make coming iD and Bethesda stuff XBox only.

>>6905397
Xxbone and Nintendo is better for modding, Sony Hardware always fucks over the industry, and its been like this since the PS1 era.

>>6905361
for real, there are a handful of original doom/doom II maps that get a little mazy but by and large they are really navigable and different areas of the map are usually distinct enough that even though you have to explore a little bit you always have some sense of how the areas you're moving through are connected.

>>6905397
there's no point in holding out for bethesda to shit out anything even remotely worthwhile but i agree about id
>>6905415
>xbone and nintendo are better for modding
>a bread knife is better for sawing through wood

>>6905439
I have a small sliver of hope that maybe the next TES game will learn from the faults of Skyrim and be a better game. Yes, I know that is UNBELIEVABLY naive of me.

>>6905397
Exclusivity is becoming a thing of the past, xbox stuff in particular is all on PC now.
What this anon said >>6905439 Why would you care, id and Bethesda spend $$$ on marketing to shovel sludge for normalfags.
>>6904980
>>6905000
Ironic posting hit critical mass in 2010, we didn't gatekeep hard enough and now we pay the price.

>>6905369
>Microsoft buys id
>mark of the beast
>full immersion Doom game included and you are the computer
>Mars mission happens
>you go
OH FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>6905238
The .22 in that is so shit yet so satisfying. Especially after you've been conserving ammo.

Well I'm not happy about corporate consolidation, I'm not happy that the same company willing to bludgeon over the head with spyware 10 now owns Doom, I'm not happy about their ambitions of becoming apple with the dream of a walled garden ecosystem.

I really, really dont like the idea of the next Doom game requiring that awful xbox app on my PC.

Also obsidian has hinted at New Vegas 2 but I have no hopes for them after Outer Worlds and their weird fetish for lesbian hair.

But it cant be worse than the usual Todd shanenigans, right? the least you could do is give him the boot

>>6905505
honestly? i would

>>6904980
We didn't kick down the GG'ers doors in 2014.

>>6905439
romero is happy with it
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1308086885995208704

>>6905465
You have faith in the industry in the current year, you're beyond saving as it is.

>>6905524
>Hey, Anon. What's in the bag? You... stowed a... chainsaw? We're going to Mars. You know that, right?
>YES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXJ-q65S5o

>>6905521
Todd isn't even that bad, a lot of people put blame on him for things which are Hines' or even Zenimax's fault.

is there a list of best pre-2016 Quake maps?

nothing huge, something like best 10-15 maps of all time

>>6905487
Thing is it is damn near impossible to gatekeep when the mods/jannies aren't on our side or themselves are shitposting zoomers. If there isn't any consequence for shitposting or being a retard, then it will flourish, and that's exactly what's happened. The community such as it remains can only do so much.

I have a weird issue. I am making a map in Doom1 format and just added some doors. When I open a door, I get a massive HOM effect, even on the room's ceiling. I have around 300 linedefs and barely 40 sectors, I can't surely be on vis limit, can I? I am using Chocolate Doom for testing.

>>6905121
>Zenimax basically told Carmack to fuck off
Not sure what you mean by this
>>6905159
>>6905175
Who gives a fuck? they don't bother me at all. I get a chuckle out of it at this point

>>6905487
>Descartes
That quote is from Voltaire dumbass

>>6905604
If you dragged geometry around sometimes level breaks. Using "make sectors" tool all around problem area usually solves it.

It might also be something else, perhaps if you share your map we could make a better guess.

>>6905649
nvm found it :^)

You notice the Bongoids never made a good FPS?

Here's a list of Doom stuff I played Finished and Enjoyed

Finished WADs:
>Doom
>Doom II
>Sigil
>Scythe 2
>Eviternity
>Ultimate Doom Redux

Next maps to play:

Doom WADs:
>Refracted Reality (currently playing)
>Plutonia
>Alien Vendetta
>Valiant
>Ancient Aliens

Quake:
>Arcane Dimensions

Would you suggest more stuff to try or add for the next stuff I play?

>>6905662
Goldeneye and Perfect Dark were good even if they might not be your preference for how FPS games play

>>6905663
>Finished WADs:
>>Doom
>>Doom II
>>Sigil
>>Scythe 2
>>Eviternity
>>Ultimate Doom Redux

Quake:
>Quake
>Quake II
>Scourge of Armagon

Updating the stuff on Quake's end.

>>6905658
What was it?

>>6905674
I am retarded and chose the wrong line special

>>6905649
>Make sectors tool
Does this get rid of the black/void triangles that appear at random when editing lines or shaping?

>>6905082
anon microsoft literally put a first party game on switch.

>>6905663
Preacher, Glaive, Glaive 2, NRFTL, Scythe X, Lunatic, Vanguard

I'm recommending some great shorter wads since you've already got a bunch of megawads. Maybe TNT too just to have all the original stuff completed. There's also that "official" 5th episode for Quake which is pretty good.

>>6905707
I haven't done much to make void triangles, but I think it will do something about them. Not sure you'd like that though.

>>6905667
Those 2 are extremely overrated and only liked by people with nostalgia goggles because they were kids when they played it and thus had no standards. They have criminally low framerates too.

>>6905578
"maps" or "releases"? I tend to recommend meatier map packs over best single maps. the video in the OP does a decent job at it too.
you could also just sort by user rating on Quaddicted.
best individual maps would be a harder task.

>>6905316
Reading the Doom intermission screens should be proof enough that nobody at id could write a good story

>>6905521
But with Bethesda you needed their awful app instead and had to buy shit from their store, which means no Steam sales and god awful DRM in every release without question.

Like it or not Microsoft has much better management (particularly in the game department) than Zenimax who are absolutely hated since Fallout 76 came out.

>>6905745
>There's also that "official" 5th episode for Quake which is pretty good.
thank you. Where do I get this 5th Quake episode?

>>6905782
I assume he meant this:
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/dopa.html
not official at all really, and fairly tame overall

:DDDDDDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj66eoC8ntI

>>6905758
What's your opinion on RoTT's story

>>6905634
>falling for decade old jokes

>>6905748
I used "maps" because I don't know what the "wad" equivalent would be, so I guess "releases" is what I meant.

I'll try sorting by rating on quaddicted, hopefully the rating isn't biased due to some maps having been there longer or the opposite some getting extra attention for being very new.

At first sight seems good, the 2 older maps I got recommended (beyond belief and contract revoked) seem to be near the top.

>>6905746
Alright, its not a huge issue but it can be annoying

>>6905840
well, my usual list is roughly this:
Contract Revoked / Lost Chapters
Marcher Fortress
Masque of Red Death
Rubicon 2 / Rubicon Rumble
Underdark Overbright
Travail
Warp Spasm
Jam 2, Jam 9, DM4 Jam, Xmas Jams

just strike UDOB and the jams for pre-2016.

>>6905667
Goldeneye still holds up.

>there’s already some girl attention whoring in the 450ml discord

It begins

>>6905873
No one cares, don't bring external drama in to these threads. They've already suffered enough as is.

>>6905747
Besides the framerate, they are really good. They are basically immersive sims. Outside of the normalfag circlejerk they are pretty underrated.
Anyway PC's were never really big in bong and only really popular amongst musicdev and CSS/1.6 players. For example it's such a small group that it's not uncommon for CS players to know everyone else by like 2 degrees of separation. PC was middleclass only pretty much. Internet only became commonplace by late 7th gen.
>>6905873
>discordfag
Really wish you'd go back

>>6905873
>Girl
lol
>They've already suffered enough as is.
You mean alf? Seems pretty easy to ignore IMO

>>6905663
Take at a look at official add-ons for the unity ports. Some good stuff in there like
> No Rest For the Living
> Double Impact
> No End In Sight
> Deathless
> Back to Saturn X 1 and 2
> Plutonia
> TNT

I'd also recommend
> Doom the Way Id Did + Ultimate Doom the Way I'd Did
> Japanese Community Project

>>6905916
meant to tag
>>6905887

>>6905663
Good list, like
>>6905745
I'll recommend some smaller level sets or single maps inbetween.

NRFTL - seriously play it, NERVE.WAD is quality
Keeper of the Seven Keys and Paradise are both atmospheric smaller map sets with tweaked gameplay on GZDoom, yet I never see them posted here, really fun.
Vrack 2 and Verdant Citadel are atmospheric larger single level wads with fun vanilla combat.

If you're looking for gzdoom addons look no further than https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISSTfix7-iA
Though I usually just use glboom+ 90% of the time

>>6905663
2048 Units of /vr/

>>6905663
Doom 3 (64)

>>6905873
that sounds like a YOU problem

>>6905816
RoTT has a story?

>>6905926
>Hutz Fandango
good shit
Although I don't know about smooth doom, it makes the weapons smoother yeah but the shotguns just feel like he's messing around with a toy rather than desperately readying their gun against a dozen demons right in front of him.

Does anyone still play Starsiege: Tribes or Tribes 2? There's a small pub community still around for Revengeance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm9dEavqKRQ..

>>6905920
>>6905926
>>6905929
>>6905931

Noted, I don't use add-ons because I tend to prefer my experience to be as vanilla as it gets without meddling much. Some of those addons look interesting, but idk, it just feels wrong to me.

What about Sunder and Sunlust? I remember testing Sunlust for a while and it got really hard at the 4th or 5th stage. Never went back after I lost that save file.

>>6906025
They're just map and campaign replacements anon like any other wad, still very much the Vanilla experience.

>>6906025
Sunlust rules but it is really fucking hard

>>6905873
It's not really attention whoring, were just discussing MAPEDIT stuff.

>>6906012
I used to be super die hard into smooth doom, but I weirdly prefer the original chunkiness of the animations. I do like my Crispy brightmaps, color corrected blood, and randomly mirrored corpses though.

>>6906091
>color corrected blood
What does that do anyway, I've turned it on and off back and forth and been entirely unable to notice a difference

Doom map format dude here, is there a way to make a damaging floor not damaging anymore by raising the floor? I was thinking something like E1M3 when you can raise the floor from the toxic pool and it doesn't damage anymore, but I haven't found any switch that can change floor height AND remove sector special. How did id do it?

>>6906112
I'd assume it'd make the blood splatter from Cacos blue, and Knights/Baron green.

>>6906112
When you shoot cacos and hell knights, blue and green blood respectively comes out instead of red to match their death animation. It's a subtle change.

>>6906117
Oh, that's great then, I'll have to turn it on

>>6906118
Action must also change texture. When rising, it will take texture and type from sector that faces linedef that activated it. When lowering it will copy adjacent one (So you can sink sector into the lava). And with Donut it will copy adjacent to outer sector.

POPULAR GAME GOOD
Shit thread

>>6906134
Aw shit now I know what's going on - I used special 20 raise to next floor; that one removes the damage. However, I don't have any way of getting out of the surrounding damaging floor right now, so I used 15 - raise by 24, which apparently does NOT remove the damage.

>>6906160
It should, you probably just picked a wrong sector to copy.

>>6906018
I've had Starsiege installed on my computer for about a year, but I never did anything other than go through some tutorial missions. Seemed dead, and I didn't know where to go for any sort of multiplayer communities.

>>6906167
Nah, the sector is the very same for both specials.

this was in my YT recommendations
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSKBkUS6oBw

So lemme get this straight.
Billy Blaze is the grandson of BJ Blazkowicz, in fact, his real name is William Joseph Blazkowicz II according to the wiki.

But his dad changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze because he was a tv show or something and he wanted to sound less polish. According to Tom Hall at least.

So wouldn't his full name be William Joseph Blaze? unless he changed it back later in life or something?

>>6906223
the thing is that no one cared less about this shit than the people who were writing this shit

>>6906201
Good. You've corrupted the algorithm. Fireblu goo oozing out of the servers as we speak.

>>6905082
bro, MS simps for Nintendo.

>>6906201
from the thumbnail i thought this would look like total shit but it looks like total shit because of the fucking filtering actually looks sorta neat in motion.

>>6906176
I've had a couple of pub matches on 1+2 but I also don't know where to find the communities. They are there, I see PUG vods get uploaded fairly frequently. At the moment I just play T:V since it has people playing regularly.

>>6906183
Pretty weird. Maybe there's a typo or something.
You can raise sectors to arbitrary height by using dummy sectors anyway.

>>6905537
Would've been funny to see you try you fuck.

At this point, i wonder if someone ever thought of putting Master Chief in Samsara or Halo enemies as a set for it
I guess a shitty animation of two specific space marines either aged well or terribly, depending on how you see it
Same for any gif or wad that involved Doomguy killing Bill Gates or Microsoft

haha
ha ha
fuck me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2V9TFrmQ_Q

>>6906223
Blaze is a nickname, simple as that

>>6906389
> Don't interrupt me.

>>6906223
id's "stories" were just a bunch of stuff mixed in just because
ironically, they might as well end up being more interesting than nudoom lore because they don't focus on appeasing fans of different franchises that wouldn't care about doom otherwise

Last thread I asked anyone who was familiar with Fitzquake if they knew why my mouse wasn't being captured by the program.
Would you believe that turning the computer on and off again fixed it? Never forget the basics.

Hey, anon who reported bug in Hell Frontier with mysteriously lowering ceiling, you were right and I found the culprit. There's tiny lines at the end of the walkway that should open monster closet but instead open (That is move ceiling to lowest adjacent ceiling) everything else.

>>6906430
Ha, I knew I wasn't going crazy.

>>6904212
Ross would hang himself if he played Hexen or Ultima.

>>6906442
You basically need to slide squeeze next to the column for it to happen, because it's the lines that separate marble walkway and marble edge at the bottom as opposed to blood.

>>6906243
I will use this in a map a small reference no one will get jej
>>6906262
It's both nauseating and hypnotic at the same time

>>6906407
I like the backstories of id games. They aren't original, they aren't very long, but they get to the point and are interpretive enough to let players imagine what's happening "behind the scenes" if they so care.

>>6906223
>>6906407
>>6906524
>"Story in a game is like a story in a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but it's not that important."

>>6905663
Epic 2, the Community Chest series, and 1994 Tune-Up Project.

>>6906574
Never heard of the 1994 tune up project, looks neat.

>>6906581
Expect a lot of funky midis on that one.

>>6905082
Imagine caring about eternal on switch whats wrong with you

>>6906407
>nudoom lore

>>6905662
no I don't notice such weirdly specific things

>>6906587
>not putting doom on everything
and I am the one with the problem

Anyone know if the Steam version of Final Doom includes the TNT Map31 patch? I read on the doomwiki that the GOG release has it, but what about Steam?

>>6902397
>Quake 2
kys

>>6905748
nice organic space ship

>>6906487
>I will use this in a map
Post it whenever it's done.

I made funny. 1/3

>>6906684
2/3

>>6904819
I think at this point he was growing less and less interested in vidya development. Doom 3 engine was basically all about him making realistic lighting simulation, everything else was afterthought. By the 2009 he probably realized that the era of small companies is over and he has nothing left for him in that industry, so he finished the latest thing he was working on and moved on onto another thing (rockets).

>>6906687
3/3

>>6906639
>implying eternal is the same as doom

>>6906684
>>6906687
>>6906701
>You can no longer die or shoot

>>6902415
>>6902425
>>6902471
I've got no qualms adding it to the OP

Does the Revenant have splash damage?

>>6902415
I don't care but we need to keep pushing for /v2k/, don't give up

>>6906734
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Classes:RevenantTracer
Looks like they don't.

>Doom on the speccy
Could anything be more kino than this?

>>6906793
Doom on Atari II.

>>6906793
PrBoom on GBA.

>>6906657
I actually have some ideas to make fire blue work. It wouldn't be how it's traditionally used though.

>>6906793
Doom on PalmOS

>>6906860
Doom on a flip phone.

this shit is pretty fun

>>6906865
>that art
Hey anon, sorry for barging into your room, there's a call for you, from Mr. Satan

>>6906856
Good, good.

>>6906945
>Mr. Satan
>Mr Saturn

Mother 3 WAD when?

>>6906860
That's not PalmOS, but I had an iPaq PDA once and it was actually pretty great for playing Doom. Even Quake was surprisingly playable, but Doom was just excellent except the source port I ran it on crashed when I walked out of first hallway at MAP04 for some reason, but at least I could play heretic and hexen. Damn I miss styluses.

>>6905980
Fireblu collaboration project when?

>>6905980
Pretty sure it has more than one.

>>6903221
>>6903238
I thought that was Sunlust

>>6906025
Those add-ons are pretty vanilla gameplay wise.

>>6905064
>don't have a grudge against me
Does this imply that Zenimax had a grudge against Carmack?

How can I change the map title for vanilla maps? I have only experience with UDMF and MAPINFO.

>>6907206
I'm pretty sure you need to use dehacked files.

>>6907206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfQWZNliozM

>>6907204
Yeah, when Carmack left to work for Oculus, Zenimax sued because he brought his VR tech he was working on with Id with him.

>>6906945
What, that phony who claims that he "defeated Cell?"

>>6907206
Open your wad in slade, create a new entry and call it DEHACKED. Be sure to set its text language as dehacked, then once you've done that you can name your maps by typing:
[STRINGS]
HUSTR_1 = 01: MY MAP NAME

If you want to change the map title on the intermission screen, you need to make a new image file (I use a program called doomwriter to make these) and import it into slade, naming the file to CWILV00 (replace the 00 with whatever map number you're replacing).

>>6904802
>the only part of classic Doom they legally own are the assets for it
They own the engine. They can't remove the GPL license, but they can decide who can bypass the GPL (if we are talking about the vanilla engine).

>>6907221
>>6907223
>>6907230
Ah well fuck, thanks m80s.

>>6907225
Oh yeah, that whole thing.
Yeah I bet Microsoft would love to have Carmack back on. Now that Oculus has been fully assimilated into the Facebook collective, he probably has soured on that anyways.

>>6907275
The altmans are out too
which is a bonus

>>6907275
I'd love to see Romero Games and Carmack do something under Microsoft together one last time. Probably won't happen, but a man can dream.

What cosmetic mods do you guys use to spice up regular Doom? Ever since I picked up Dead Marine (NOT the horrible redux one) I can't play without it.

It pretty much has everything, chunkier gun sounds and visual recoil, new sounds for picking up different items and for monsters, simple gore system, fixed sprites, alternate death animations.. It has a HUD that is too big and clunky and there are blood graffiti on the walls now which don't really look nice. But that can easily be ignored.

>>6907284
Doom 3 2

>>6907317
maybe make it a good rip off of fear and system shock 2, while focusing on gameplay even if it has to be an impressive tech demo and fixing the shotgun
also make enemies feel different, holy shit

will blade of agony chapter 3 ever be released?

Keeping my eye on this Dredd/Judge anon project. That's my dream TC.

Though I feel Build would be better for a Dredd theme. Build environments are better for actually real things. Buildings, windows, bathrooms, offices, streets. Actual places. Doom is just random incoherent rooms. With no identifiable context to what shit is. Not a bad thing. Just saying build is more for real places.

Though I get that Doom is 1000x more moddable.

>>6907294
What's the difference between Dead Marine and Dead Marine Redux?
Also to answer your question; HXRTC HUD is a must. Best HUD in the business imo.

>>6907294
Brightmaps are all I need most of the time. If i've already played a mapset in vanilla, final doomer.

>>6907342
Dead Marine is made by the same guy that makes Smooth Doom and is purely a cosmetic mod, no gameplay changes.

the REDUX is by some other asshole who just added very run-of-the-mill gameplay modifications stuff on top and took the name. It's has inventory slots, headshots, lots of gore, grenades and long distance rifle weapons, only leaves one difficulty option available, etc. Just shit.

>>6907342
Dead marine is a nice cosmetic mod. Redux is done by a spastic who stacked as much garbage as he could on top and pretty much tainted that name permanently.

So how many sourceports do you fellas have ready to go at a moment's notice?

I've got:
> Crispy Doom when I want to go Vanilla
> PrBoom+ when I need Boom capabilities (Woof when it gets widescreen)
> GZDoom for anything crazier than that

>>6907359
i honestly only use the ones you mentioned, i just downloaded these out of curiosity. i don't even remember what sodoom is.

>>6907340
>tfw someone is actually interested in what you are making
I feel flattered, but don't keep your hopes up. I suck at basically everything, so don't expect great maps or nice sprites in the near future.
And yeah, Build would probably be a better fit - I mean, Ion Fury already has pretty much the look I would like going for - but apart from as you already mentioned Doom being immensely better moddable, I also have zero experience with Build anything. I took a whiff of MapEdit because I was interested in the Blood mapping project and decided it's not for me.
If it's any consolation for you, I am currently building a mall map with a bunch of Dook textures. As mentioned in the earlier post, MEG-1 is so wacky that I see no problem in just mixing everything together.

As for the current state of the project: The todo list is growing and growing. I spent the last few days making perps because I don't really see the regular Doom monsters. Lots of street level thugs and such. However, while all enemies are about as weak as Zombiemen, they also hit A LOT harder. Evasion and crowd control shall be a huge thing here.

This is a map I made tonight because I felt like taking a break from UDMF and over 9000 3D floors and script stuff. I know I suck at mapping, so feedback is appreciated. It is very short and easy. Tested on Chocolate Doom 3.0.1. with Ultimate Doom

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0amwggyzr3kvm1/ultimatesuck.zip?dl=0

>>6907321
Not impossible at all at this point. You know the drill. Get a big enough push going on social media and senpai will take notice. id, Romero, Carmack and hopefully no meddling from Microsoft. Just funding and good times. I do hope that id didn't get scammed out of the no meddling deal during the buyout.

Is it just me or does Dead Marine not work well with mouselook turned off?
I swear my view is somehow tilted after landing a meaty hit

>>6907361
These features look pretty cool, but the fact that it hasn't been updated since April is a bit concerning.

>>6907373
i feel like if they ever revisit doom 3's formula, they might as well look at doom 3 modders that tried to fix the game and respect it, which is the opposite of most of bfg edition's damage
also, you know how doom eternal is an expansion of 2016's art style with designs from classic doom?
a proper doom 3 2: hell on earth could have been an expansion on some of doom 3's ideas with parts of classic doom
that deimosremus guy did something like that in pic related

>>6907359
current gz for recent mods
older gz for mods that are broken in newer gz
prboom+ for boom
chocolate for dos compatible stuff
crispy for limit removing vanilla
zdoom for the extremely few things that only work in zdoom as opposed to gzdoom
zandronum for zandronum shit

>>6906594
For once I actually agree with a retarded wojak spammer. nuDoom lore isn't even that complex, all it boils down to is
>nuDoom is a sequel to the 90s Dooms
>Doom 3 is an alternate universe/retelling of Doom 1
>every other piece of fluff is an excuse for more levels/enemy designs in future games.

>>6907359
>Chocolate for Ultimate Doom
>GZDoom for everything else, since I do a lot of modding and only seldomly map

>>6907392
>>nuDoom is a sequel to the 90s Dooms
only with being the same doomguy because he became a version of him made by fans and daisy
hell in general isn't even the same it was from the classic games
it went from
>dude, what if satan had cybernetics
to
>actually, our very unique hell that does not look like a moba didn't use technology because that was given by humans and alie-i i mean ange- i mean maykrs
it feels cynical and skeptical about its own setting
even the "goofy" shit like the 1 ups and cartoony voices scream skepticism
it feels like it doesn't believe in magic, compared to something like bayonetta, smt or even previous doom games
most christian game? more like most athiest game
urdak might as well be something out of a 90's doom novel

>>6902397
I wonder how the people in the Fallout, ESO, and TES generals on /vg/ are reacting overall to the news that Bethesda/Zenimax is being bought by Microsoft. Honestly, I think its too early to jump to the conclusion that they will end up like Rareware or even Skype.

*blocks your path*

>>6906793
It's shit to play, but it's an impressive effort, also the music is TOTALLY sick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68U0p4q20wc

I'm surprised nobody has made a .midi rendition of this track.

>>6907386
They could just call it Doom Retro (original title DONUT STEEL!!1!) or something like that and smoosh Doom 1+2 (possibly +3) and 64 together into one massive project. Giant episodes, but not in the dumbass DLC sense. Go through whole story, pretty much. End off with Doomguy getting stuck under that hell boulder or however the nuDoom story goes. Take what they've learned from 2016 and Eternal and just go hog wild with the oldschool goodness. Extra fancy idtech with Carmack involved, discrete tweaks to gameplay from Romero (holy shit it took him a long time to even get accustomed to Eternal in that one stream he did) aaaaand the id crew can do what they do with designs and visuals. Just a bunch of nerds making the ultimate nerd game with love and care. They pretty much all need to get together and play some AD&D(oom) and go from there. Like in the old days. Yeah. Yeah!

>>6907284
>>6907317
>>6907321
It'd be pretty damn cool to see them do something, anything.

>>6907421
you have a vivid imagination anon, but new-id wouldn't be able to pull off this idea even with carmack and romero. things like doom can't exist unmolested nowadays, they just don't pull in the numbers big corporations want. it's all about mass appeal, doom is just the name on the box.

>>6907421
i wonder if they'd even think of doing something with fans, considering doom is that series where fans kept it alive and expanded in some way or another
i mean, you'd think someone at id would look at doom delta, samsara or metadoom and think "wow it's almost like these people dominated doom or something"
fucking doom 64 wouldn't have an official port if it wasn't for a history of fan ports
doom had a bunch of nerds that went "i want it, i should do it" or something close
you even have decino and marphy with too much knowledge on doom

Playthrough video of map08 of darkhell.wad is up. This is the last map, now my dive into this shovelware episode ends. Cursed wad and a lot of technical difficulties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2Ie1JrC6AE

>>6907372
It's pretty basic, with not much in terms of traps, which I guess is to be expected since you said it was short and easy. It certainly feels like a decent 90's map. I like how you start out in hell and then make your way into a base though, but other than that, there's not too much to say.
Here's a demo of my playthrough:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5igar25wc8y96ag/ultimatesuck01.lmp?dl=1

>>6907430
>>6907432
Well on one side of things they've had to pander to current expectations and the two recent games have suffered from it, a little bit. A lot in some people's minds. On the flipside they've been taking pointers from the more popular community projects. Brutal Doom being the obvious big influence but forum posters, both big and small, also got some licks in here and there. Loose design and idea interpretations here and there. Plenty of devs lurk both the zdoom and doomworld forums it would seem. Might even be some /vr/ nods in there.
So, they make something, have their testers do the thing, get bitched at, change something, release some promo stuff, get bitched at, change something. It's a tricky cycle. But maybe, JUST MAYBE, if the stars align, the testers and online watchers won't be awful this time around. Or, they can implement proper gameplay options. Pander the everybody! Customize and go crazy or play vanilla.
And allow modders to mod the game. Naturally. What a nice dream.

>>6907483
doomguy if he real

>>6907483
dad?

>>6907459
Hey, thanks. I will watch the demo later. You got any more advice? Like any spots that were too tight or something or too much/little ammo etc.?

>>6907414
>[Slowly sidesteps back and forth]
Shotgunners are 10x more dangerous than these fucks

>>6907483

>>6907493
Maybe add some more monsters to make use of the large rooms and add a way to get out of the blood near the yellow key if you fall in.

>>6907498
>and add a way to get out of the blood near the yellow key if you fall in.
Heh, I did that on purpose because I didn't want people to snatch the key and run through the other room. I have no idea how to do that without making the blood pit inescapable before the switch.

>>6907483
this will be brutal doom in 2011

>>6907468
...and someone get Mick Gordon a guitar. Dang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pvm9aDS_Yrg

>>6907421
>holy shit it took him a long time to even get accustomed to Eternal in that one stream he did
Tbf it took me a while to get used to it. There are a few things about it that I fuckin hate though.

>watch Decino outtakes
wait he is not explaining the map every.single.time. right?
>watch the completed run
>he says the same things

oh you poor soul you coul just add some voiceover bits onto the final run, why do you do this to yourself?

>>6907519
Well I see that as a good thing. He probably had some ideas on what he would have liked to see rather than what was actually going on. Much like you, I'd imagine.
The problem for me was that mastering the game made it way less interesting to play. The challenge just disappeared and everything became a scripted autopilot loop. Just interesting enough to play through, once. Can't see myself going back to it any time soon. Doom 1 and 2 + new maps I can play forever.

>>6907340
>Doom is just random incoherent rooms. With no identifiable context to what shit is.
With GzDoom you could make something that does like 90% of what Duke & Pals do with their level design, you could even replicate walls exploding open and stuff, even if the way it'd work would be slightly clunkier. The one mayor limitation would be that you can't really do moving 3D platforms, not in a conventional way anyway, you'd need to make a separate 3D model to imitate that.

>>6907359
95% of my playtime is on Crispy and PRBoom+

>>6902397
>THERE ARE FATES WORSE THAN DEATH!
Like being sold to Microsoft?

>>6907483
MICROSOFT HIRE THIS MAAAAN

>>6907638
>>6907387
Why don't people who use Crispy and Prboom+ just use Prboom+ for both?
Am I missing something?

>>6907664
Why do people use PrBoom+ AT ALL? For authentic and vanilla you have Chocolate/Crispy, for everything else you have GZ. Seriously, if you're not dead set on demo replay, there is no reason to use PrB. Also, it's fucking awful to set up and the only reason people are still using it is because actual Gen Xers are so used to it they shun everything else.

>>6907675
Planisphere 2

>>6907675
FOV in GLBoom+

>>6907664
PrBoom doesn't support widescreen huds and it doesn't make it easy to get a crispy resolution in widescreen without weird scaling issues. Honestly, when I absolutely need Boom I use GZDoom, although once Woof supports widescreen, I'm hopping over to that.

>>6907359
PrBoom+ for most maps and GZDoom for Mods/ZDoom maps/Heretic.

>>6907551
>"Welp, this is run 12 of Map 7 for the Slaughter I Barely Know Her wad. You know, this layout kind of reminds me of the time I went to Knotts. At the time-"
>gets killed by random Revenant fireball
>"Ah fuck"
>restarts
>"Welp, this is run 13 of Map 7 for the Slaughter I Barely Know Her wad. You know, this layout kind of reminds me of the time I went to-"
>chaingunner kills him
>"Damn it"
>restarts
>"Welp, this is-"
>falls down death pit
>"Oh come on! Nooooooo!"

HaaH

>>6907664
PrBoom+'s mouseturning is really shitty on Windows 10 unless you use a recent developmental fork of it.

>>6907729
That was my other issue with prboom. It just feels like shit.

>>6907551
it makes it more exciting to listen to (you can hear him struggle, think, etc), but is brutal for him. pretty shocking he does it, but i'm grateful. it's one-of-a-kind for these most challenging maps.

side note, in his most recent video about doom 2 pacifist, he didn't mention zeromaster or anyone at all for the icon of sin; pretty messed up imo, it was a lot of work by a lot of people to get that thing to happen.

>>6907742
Sounds like a personal problem. Works fine for me.

someone mentioned this wad, the japanese community wad, some threads ago, and i'm playing it right now. thank you so much anon, this mapset is really delightful. (note it's from 2016 and played with complevel 2!). quite unusual too. also i'm using the hud and have slowly learned their numeric character set, though there have been some funny moments of "oh shit less health than i realized" and "oh shit that medikit was wasted".

relatedly, like 2048, it's a bunch of small maps. i think i really enjoy these small focused mapsets with many contrasting styles. desu,.sunlust is mostly like that for me too, though there are exceptions in sunlust of course, and the length is still greater.

i like pistol start single segment runs, but am not that good, so 2048 was actually quite perfect for me. even black crest (map 29), my favorite of the set =)

>>6907776
Is JPCP boom compatible
because i see this being the next Unity doom update

Back in June I tried prying through Quake III Revolution with Dragon Unpacker, because people were posting those unused Doomguy voicelines, and I found out that there were 4 more characters with unused voices inside, but I wasn't able to open or extract them since DU would always get stuck in a loop when opening them. Anyways, mindless browsing through my computer reminded me that I was doing this, and my newfound motivation led me to an eight year old Xentax thread with a link to software that could extract .mp2 files.

Long story short, Hunter is Russian.

https://ufile.io/5nts7idh

>>6907776
Get all of the secrets. They're good.

>>6907791
yeah, i just beat map 6, where the main secret took me to a sunlust-looking area with two arch viles.

BTW how many of you, when first entering a room, check all the places to hide from arch viles? it's just become antural for me now that i've been playing a lot again. maybe i'll start doing it in real life.

>>6907785
indeed the idgames format textfile suggests -complevel 2 (doom 2, pre-boom), which is how i'm playing it, and it runs great (on map 8 now, haven't had any issues)

>>6907789
Anarki. Oh god.

>>6907820
let me guess, its WEW DOOOD! as QC?

>>6907824
NVM, it is...

>>6907789
Is fucking Erin voicing her?
because she sounds like her doing nord, khajiit and draenei y'rels voices

>>6907824
It's this guy, yeah.

>>6907824
It's exactly that, but instead of Yuri Lowenthal it's someone you don't recognize

big trouble in little china wad when?

>>6907830
Here are the listed voice actors from a credits video in the game files. See any names you recognize?