/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CUURENT PROJECT ===

450ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Be sure to familiarize yourself with MAPEDIT:
https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Optional discord for questions:
https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu
Rules: >>6837387

=== NEWS ===

[9-14] La tailor girl updated to 1.76C:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=420#p1165358

[9-12] Ruskies finally released the HD pack for Quake 2, Reckoning, and Ground Zero, it can be used on Yamagi.
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-the-reconing-ground-zero-hi-res-texture-pack

Something about Unreal I dunno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0

[9-10] Someone is trying to make Chunky software Quake 2 source port on the same vein as quakespasm
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-heavy-metal-q2hm/news/quake-ii-is-revving-up-with-guns-strogg-and-heavy-metal

[9-10] 2048 Units of /vr/ is updated to 1.2, including a BFG replacement for 2048 Guns.
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bj4nvtd5wjbyegq/2048unitsvr_v1.2.zip?dl=1
2048 Guns: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l51hgsqhcg2v99e/2048GUNS.zip?dl=1

[9-9] twad, a terminal based wad launcher for Doom was released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116457-twad-a-wad-launcher-for-the-terminal/

[9-9] Hideous destructor got updated: https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor/releases/tag/v4.4.2b
So as Ugly as sin: https://github.com/caligari87/Ugly-as-Sin/releases/tag/v4.4.2b-1
and there is now a site to see all the addons done for Hideous destructor: https://accensi.gitlab.io/hdportal/index.html

[9-6] ROTT is getting an official source port for PC & consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPFS99n4X2I

[9-6] La Tailor Girl got updated to 1.76b:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1164495#p1164495

=== PREVIOUS ===

https://pastebin.com/ag1Rsiii

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST.

Gonna shamelessly plug this list of IdTech1 and Build Engine games I've played and Reviewed on Steam so far.
https://store.steampowered.com/curator/32080969-SevenSixTwoZeroSeven/list/56903

Also, a piece of writing I decided to do about the styleistic differences of Doom 64 compared to the PC originals.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/76207/recommended/1148590/

Luv ya, /doom/

So how many /vr/ projects are we cloking in already? like joining all the minutes, units, dumps and HUHs

>>6884835
You forgot to add this you double nigger
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-reanimation-pack

>>6884876
>HUHs
>plural
We really need to do a second one after the Blood project. It's been about a year.

>>6884834
>>6884835
Why has the archive link been replaced? I'm still alive, I've usually always updated it whenever unarchived news is about to fall off for over three years.

https://pastebin.com/PZDkqABT

>>6884896
We're going to get into a stream of making constant projects at this rate, and that would be a great thing.

>>6884907
because op is an idiot and possibly crossboarder

>>6875370
This was left out too

>>6884915
>We're going to get into a stream of making constant projects at this rat
ain't that the goal?

>>6884907
>Last updated on the 17th of September, 2020
Do you live in Oceania anon?

>>6884862
Is this an ironic shitpost

>>6884946
I could be a time traveler, you know.

>>6884956
idk. if you write 1000+ words about something, it can't be ironic anymore imo

>>6884980
You can definitely put way too much effort into something ironic. It's the best way to trick people into thinking it's real in fact

>>6884984
i ain't reading it either way, can i get a summary from someone pls

Based Doomkid or Cringe ShillmanLives? Who is the best?

>>6884987
it says that he sucks nigger dicks every day

>>6884992
Mtpain27

>>6884992
Icarus because he doesn't give a shit about Bethesda's port and just gives me wads to play lmao

It's a cold night for cacodemons.

>>6884862
You could really do with condensing down the length of your reviews. No one is going to read four chunky paragraphs about how you prefer your testicles fondled, followed up with a scattered review that looks like it was written by a student trying to inflate their essay's word count.
You actually do a decent job at explaining your thoughts with your Ninja Kiwi Archive review, so I'd suggest you'd write your future reviews in a similar kind of way.

>>6884803
>snow levels are not really my thing so I may skip them, maybe.
snow levels contain exits to the secret levels, don't miss out on those

https://twitter.com/Shorted_Fuse/status/1306234328322641925/

>>6884992
decino because he's just playing difficult wads.
I just fish he'd finish picking submissions already. I want something other than yet another open circular map by skillsaw.

>>6884992
Doomkid because he makes some cool wads

>>6885079
I wish he finishes selecting because I really wanna know if he chooses a 2048 map since some people sent them.

>>6885097
I secretly wish he'd pick my map, but I probably shouldn't have waited an entire minute before sending it.

>>6883978
Yeah they patched out the playerbase and replaced everything with bots and servers with stupid setups. Enjoy your wave defense and hallway instagib bro. I just wanna play some classic deathmatch but nobody else does bro

Can someone explain to me what the fuck is this shit?

>>6885163
Looks like a first person video game my dude.
I'd date it to the second half of the 1990s.

>>6884862
>steam reviews

Decino is such a creepy sounding name

>>6885163
That's Hexen II.

>>6885159
>they patched out the playerbase
WHEN? And how to get around it, if at all?

>>6885194
Yeah play 2k4, UT4 or ingratiate yourself with an autistic pickup community on discord or something.

is blood 'fresh supply' easier than the original game? i've literally never played a build engine game until now and i beat it on extra crispy without too much trouble.

>>6885163
isn't that the puzzle that randomizes the solution each attempt? good times.

Somebody was asking about doom_complete.pk3. Here it is:
https://files.catbox.moe/368e2r.7z

>>6885207
When was this stupid patched applied, though?
>pickup community
What?

>>6885295
He's saying nobody actually plays UT99. DM/TDM fags play UT4 since the mechanics are a more refined version of UT99 and 2K4 is better for literally every other mode.

>>6885040
ugh i did not enjoy that map. i feel bad saying that, since it was made by the OTEX creator, probably as a showcase, but ... ugh

>Quake ost on vinyl
About to break down and buy it

Daily reminder that Blood is shit.

>>6885390
>electro industrial on vinyl

Lmao HLfags are so pathetic.
>>6884543
They can't handle criticism.
>>6885394
KYS

>>6885394
Sounds like anal cancer. Get that checked out, guy

>>6884992
>doomkid
>based
Pick one. Reminder: https://youtu.be/HEunZz9asmk

>>6885163
Its some completely broken bullshit. Just noclip over it or savescum until it accepts an answer. They put a texture with 3 possible solutions as a hint, but they never actually work.

I was out of /doom/ and Doom in general for a few weeks, today i came back and also checked the dw thread, it seems that people is actually playing the wad and enjoying it.

That makes me happy

>>6885520
the wad = 2048 units of /vr/

>>6885520
It seems like a good wad. I wish I could actually play.

an anon brought up weegee in previous thread, so i wonder if someone ever made a mod about weegee
or even a weegee version of character called "dhewmghai" or something because of the amount of weird oc's people made
like a fanfic universe of recolors, clones and deformed versions of characters from mario and other shit like sonic or spongebob, conker, zelda etc
innocent, yet insane times i tell you
speaking of oc stuff, i feel like the classic doom aesthetic is interesting enough to warrant custom content because it seems both simple and complex at the same time

>>6885390
interesting. I thought those track names were a fan-made invention. anybody knows their original source?

also, lmao @ bethesda being slimy shits as usual
>*NOTE
WE DESIGNED THIS REISSUE TO INCLUDE A BOOKLET CONTAINING ESSAYS FROM ID SOFTWARE’S JOHN CARMACK AND AMERICAN MCGEE. A CERTAIN UNNAMED VIDEO GAME PUBLISHER MADE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO INCLUDE THIS IN THE PACKAGE

>>6884896
a second HUH would be great, just get someone competent as in, no me to organinze it this time

>>6884835
guess it's news-worthy. Q1 OST is out.
https://store-uk.nin.com/products/quake-vinyl

How does it the board hates your game, hlcucks?>>6885443

>>6885497
well the dude he's making fun of is a complete retard so yes, he is, as the kids say, baste.

>>6885570
*does it feel that

Keyboard and mouse being the intended way to play since Wolfenstein confirmed.

https://youtu.be/8a3WoErFXSA?list=PLF-Nf60AUpykRCzGVGwt8Bt5JnQA8Qz8N&t=805

>>6885561
why not have the 2048 guy organize it?

>>6885578
I didn't participate in that, but if he managed 2048 he ought to have a good head on his shoulders.

I should play that as soon as I'm done with my current wad backlog.

>>6885554
It begs me to wonder if carmack really fucked over JEW Del and Kike Altman's plans with the help of trump's brother and ripken since board Zos itself before they removed the 1st 2 an ripken tried to save qc by sponsoring at his burger stores. if the stories are true.

Hey, boomers - I remember there were some rumblings a while back about DarkPlaces being ported to Quake 2. Any status on that?

If not, is there a way to force gibs to stay in Berserker or the vanilla Quake 2?

>>6885576
i wish the interviewer wouldn't show his ugly based face

>>6885576
Like I'm going to listen to the opinions of some retard who plays with filters on.

>>6885372
>that giant swarm of lost souls

>>6885592
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>6885497
t. white bitch

>>6885570
Speak English, boomer.

>>6885624
Play better games, HL zoomie.

>>6885578
Sure, I wouldn't mind managing it. I've never actually made a complete Quake map before though, so I don't know how qualified I would be host a project.

>>6885628
>he thinks bioshock is a masterpiece

>>6885645
Bioshock sucks too.

>>6885649
t. boomer who thinks ROTT was good

>>6885629
I never completed my own map, much to my shame, but putting the whole pack together was rather painless since TrechBroom is pretty easy to figure out.
You can ask Zungryware in the Quake mapping Discord if you need help with that, he was pretty chill and helpful.

>>6884992
What's going on, more drama?

>>6885629
Do you need to make maps to manage the project? Also, what >>6885654 said.
Let's hope cathedral guy and Goldeneye dam guy finish their stuff.

>>6885653
better than Linear-Life

>>6884992
WHO FUCKING CARES

>>6885659
Gmanlives made an inaccurate video about Bethesda's new doom port, doomkid made a video showing what he got wrong, then gman removed the video. Not really drama or interesting enough to bring up repeatedly.

>>6885661
>Do you need to make maps to manage the project?
a start.bsp hub is generally expected, but isn't necessarily the organizer's job.

>>6885702
Ah shit I forgot that.
Maybe we could just steal the hub from the first HUH and make some sector graffiti that says HUH 2 in a crooked writing.

>>6885707
it's really not a big deal. I'll make one if needed.
doesn't have to be called HUH 2 either. HUH wasn't QUMP 2 after all.

say what you will, but I'd love support for Half-Life in TrenchBroom, as I'm used to WorldCraft (Hammer) from the old days but after trying TB it's so much easier to get shit done

>>6885717
>Half Life
go back

>>6885707
also
>sector

>>6885723
>sector
Ah shit I meant brush. I am working on a small Doom map right this fucking moment and wondering how I could synchronize sector flickering lights.

>HUH was already a year and a half ago
I remember trying to make my map as hard as I could because I never mapped for anything beforehand, I don't even know if the project ever got reviewed anywhere.

>>6885615
i heard it that ZoS plan is still making enough profits privately along with Providence equity funding so they could Enter wallstreet with the lowest margin and Sell the entire company after a few "misshaps" but Bob Trump and ripken were against it, but the ones with the final word and bribery were always Altman and Del.
all of Zenimax itself, like blizzard was made and bought out of 2 banished lawyers wanting to make quick bucks and sell the company later on at the highest or lowest margin

>>6884835
>Something about Unreal I dunno
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0
The fuck is this supposed to be? video is unavailable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38zduHkwGcc

Has anyone watched this yet, and does Tim actually say anything interesting about Doom or just ramble about being friends with American McGee for 3 hours?

>>6885617
t. nignog

>>6885729
there are a couple reviews in the func thread and quaddicted, it didnt blow anyobody away since it was the combined effort of mostly first timers, but the reception was pretty positive all things considered.
It was generally agreed upon that the last map was the best one. I dont remember the name right now.

>>6884992
Any of the millions of other content creators that exists throughout the internet

>>6885740
>>6875370

>>6885629
Also, should we use anything like Quoth or progs_dump for the project, or keep it simple and stick with standard "vanilla" quake maps?

>>6885749
>the last map was the best one.
You mean A Way Down? I don't know if it was the last, but certainly the best.

>>6885717
My old install has folders for all 4 Quakes, Half Life, Hexen 2, and even Daikatana, all with .fgd files in them. The guy behind TB may have been planning support for more games, but I don't know if it ever went anywhere. I mostly stopped using the thing after HUH.

>>6885735
have you heard of sentences? or punctuation?
how does Carmack fit into any of this? weren't they the ones suing him?
come on friend, apply yourself and string five words together coherently.

>>6885780
see>>6885719

>>6885780
Its still being developed very actively, theyre adding support for more games in the next update.

>>6885762
I'd vote Quoth, has more flexible roster but allows to create a vanilla map anyway (unlike AD). vanilla is fine too.

Looking at Doom 2 RPG sort of creates some whiplashes when looking at Eternal
>Actually uses some classic designs and tries to remaster them and even some sounds, for better or worse
>Holy Water Pistol is like a subtle way to hint a Heaven and it's not the cynical "alien" Urdak
>Icon of Sin is treated as a main villain that even talks directly to the player and fights 1v1 in some virtual dimension, instead of being a mindless "non character" pawn used by some other villain as if whoever wrote 2RPG saw him on pair with Bowser or Eggman as the "big bad" for Doom
>There's still some focus on "Hell tech"
It's like hints for an expanded Doom universe that never happened and it's similar to how mods tried to expand Doom in some ways

>>6885843
I'm surprised nobody has made a fan made port of the RPG games. They're god tier cell phone games.

>>6885740
iirc it was new Unreal/UT99 versions from oldunreal

>>6885850
Gerardo/Erick194 brothers on Doomworld were working on something to bring them to PC
I think they managed to squeeze out most assets from the games, like sprites and maybe code too
I wished Carmack released the source codes of those games or at least made some PC versions

>>6885554
"Hi gamers Todd here, today were bringing you Bethesda's take on a little known cult classic. Get hyped for new product and pre-order the quad damage collectors edition gold version++ of QUAKE 5 BAYBEE"

>Crowd begins shitting uncontrollably

"Quake is known for being a carpenter and spooky hallways. Get ready to frag you're way to the top in our all new Open World, 10 part episodic, VR only Battle Royale Adventure. Discover the meaning of HUH. Unlock the secrets of dakadakadaka. Grab your BFG (bi-racial female penis genderizer) and bunny hop along side Doomguy in our shared universe to rip and tear your way into your local senators office and demand stuff.
Rocket jump the border, start an inclusive revolution to bring down Plormp and the GAGA group to save the commonwealth once and for all. "

>>6885571
I don't know who he's making fun of. But the mega corporations supporting looters is pretty fuckin gay tbhfam.
>cities can be rebuilt zach
I just assume Sony is footing the bill, then.

>>6885749
>decide to check out my map
>don't even remember what it was called
>go through the list of map names until I find "huh_babby"
>it's mine
>run through it for the first time since the project ended, start remembering the time I spent making it and how cool I thought my layout was
>find roughly 3 ideas I liked, while everything else looked like something from a shovelware compilation
This must be the Game Developer Experience™

Also, while sifting through my Quake installs I found what might be older versions of hangar8 and technotomb (called technobomb) in the maps folder of an untouched sourceport, don't know how different they are to what was released

>>6885617
t. anti-white bitch

>>6885891
Todd isnt even the owner, its the altmans

>>6885571
>well the dude he's making fun of is a complete retard so yes, he is, as the kids say, baste.

>>6885941
> pro muslim
> pro science

>boomer shooter thread is nothing but boomer politics

le sigh

>>6885917
>Also, while sifting through my Quake installs I found what might be older versions of hangar8 and technotomb (called technobomb) in the maps folder of an untouched sourceport,
lolwut did I release them for testing? I think so, but I never really got feedback on those maps so I figured nobody cared.

>>6885059
yo this guys artstyle is fucking rad.
very ToonStruck.

>>6885974
Probably, people usually post their WIPs in the thread during projects, but HUH as a whole is a bit blurry to me. I just remember wanting to play that Goldeneye map.

https://easyupload.io/iom08a

>>6885612
yeah that was dumb. but it wasn't just that, it was just the whole map feeling like a slog?

i'm one of those people for whom doom is centrally about interesting fights, everything else secondary. This map 32 (and most of eviternity, but especially this map) just felt to me like "okay i picked my architecture, now let me sprinkle in some enemies".

map32 and iirc map19 (whatever the other long map was) were the only levels of eviternity i didn't single segment... just long slogs...

>>6884876
>>6884896
>>6885561
>>6885578
>>6885629
fuck ALL that bullshit let's make some Thief missions please

>>6886024
i guess the last fight was pretty cool, but ultimately it was standard slaughtermap techniques (crowd control).

hey what is the maximum number of allowed bfg blasts to kill a single cyberdemon before you are kicked out of the doom community?

>>6886051
2

>>6886051
none, real doomers punch them

Why do HL and CS suck so much, /doom/ bros?

>>6886009
HUH, interesting. I only played Hangar 8, but from what I could see, it looked pretty complete, maybe I changed some lighting in the end? I really don't know, but it's definitely not the release versions, as those were named differently.
Also, I can really understand the criticisms people had regarding this map.

I really wish I was as good making maps for Doom ;_;

>>6886065
They carried the torch of PC game modding. I can't be mad at them for long.

>>6886070
Don't respond to Alf dude, he posts this same shit every thread.

>>6886043
I wouldn't really mind learning dromed afterwards, but let's be honest here. thief barely gets a mention in these threads.

>>6885941
Again, I repeat: based.

>>6885935
Murder all crackers.

>>6886043
Ooooooh now we are cooking.
I think Thief might be the ONE game we havent touched yet.
How's DromED?

I am honestly kind of surprised there have not been any outright risque or porn-y add-ons for La Tailor Gal.

>>6886094
Their might be some on Lover's lab or allthefallen...

>>6886094
I mean the author has a NSFW twitter, he could very well do an HDoom version himself

pretty please

>>6886092
A buddy of mine has used it. It seems completely serviceable. Minorly cumbersome, but not bad.
The thing about Thief missions though is that more than brushwork and such, there's a fair bit of scripting to do. Elevators, NPC paths, mission objectives, alarms, etc...

>>6886092
I tried but dromed is a bitch to use.

Its not that is hard, just tiresome. People have made great stuff.

>>6886075
I've never understood why Thief was lumped into this general, as it's fundamentally different from the rest of these rooty tooty point and shooties. I don't think a lot of the doombrains in here could manage to play something as methodical and patient as it.

>>6886092
>>6886182
It's fine and after getting over the interface at first it's a breeze. Scripting is pretty easy and I can help with it if people need it anyway.

Thief sucks

>>6886204
go back HLcuck

>>6884835
I am currently working on a mod that might or might not become a TC. I made a Lawgiver weapon mod some time ago, but never had the drive to actually make maps for it. Since I got stuck on another mapping project, I thought I might start here. Currently it's just one tiny map to
introduce the concept.
You're a street judge sent to respond to different kinds of calls. Zoom and Reload change the firemode of the Lawgiver. Fist is replaced by a kick. Alt fire is the judge shout that can frighten enemies.
I would like some feedback on the general concept and if the kind of map presented here (style-wise, obviously in a more expanded and complex way than just three tiny rooms) is something people would like to see more of.
The idea is that every level is basically a puzzle the judge has to solve with the tools at hand, because there are no ammo pickups for the lawgiver. I am also considering adding stuff like hostages or evidence collection. The great thing about the Dredd world is that I can add all
kinds of different characters and monsters from all kinds of different sources because Megacity One is that wacky.
Again, I want to mention that the level presented here is merely a demo I quickly threw together. Actual levels would be more complex (stuff like block wars or shopping malls or hostage situations at a museum for example). Suggestions for sets and situations are appreciated.
Please tell me what you think. This mod was tested on GZD 4.4.2.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3umgt25rd9d3r6j/MEG-1.pk3?dl=0

Half Life fans defend this.

>>6886252
Half-Life is a graceful blend between the two, you just suck tranny dick.

be sure to never overload your forklifts so as to avoid workplace accidents

>>6886195
>I don't think a lot of the doombrains in here could manage to play something as methodical and patient as it.
We had a fair bit of discussion on it when the thread first started, but eventually people started making thief threads independently and it didn't really get discussed here much anymore.
It's personally my favorite game (thief 1 and 2 - 3 is good, but not as consistent). Never made a map for it though. Been busy.

>>6886267
what game

>>6886252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHhgjKaLHJw

>>6884834
if blood is so good how come theres no blood 2??? oh wait lmao get fucked bloodfags

>>6886295
There is one and it's called Death Wish

>>6886295
hl sucks

>>6886051
3

>>6886285
Rekkr ep4

There's something very satisfying about making a weird chimera of doom content.

>>6884992
Both cringe desu

>>6886304
No

>>6886372
I see turned off weapon bobbing for that true rocket wheelchair experience.

>>6886405
I do miss the weapon bobbing, unfortunately weapon and view bobbing aren't separated, so I have to disable it completely in Crispy. I just can't handle Doom's viewbob, it makes me sick.

>>6885941
Since when was saying brown AND black not racist now? Not that the latter is, but the former is literally the same as saying "person of color" and how it's somehow not the same as saying "colored" for some reason.

>>6885740
the url is missing a character >>6875370

>>6884491
>also wads used? pls

[doom.Autoload]
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Gameplay\D4T_v2.5\D4Tv2.5.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Camera\TiltPlusPlus v1.65.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Movement\ZMovement 3.1.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Graphics\Nash Gore\nashgore.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Graphics\SkyBoxes\SB_ALL.wad
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Graphics\SpriteShadow v1.9.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Music\Lorcan Covers\tnt-lorcan-mus.pk3
Path=D:\Games\Ports\Doom\Mods\Random\autoautosave-1.3.pk3

I tried to use immerse instead of tilt++ and steve's flashlight but seems that they don't work with d4t

>>6885661
>Let's hope cathedral guy and Goldeneye dam guy finish their stuff.
lol, I'm the goldeneye dam guy, I opened a business in fucking argentina and the current situation is not favorable at all if someone follows international news
tl;dr we are turning into venezuela 2.0
I'm this guy btw >>6882691

>>6884834
I didn't even know this board existed but I am happy I found it. This thread is exactly what I've been craving.
OP's pic related shows how impressive 2D sprites can be when there are enough rendered angles. Blood has soul that few games compare to.

>>6886442
>Argentina
oof, now you have to pay in USD for vidya too

>>6886463
this is the ps5 with 1 usd at FUCKING 200 (two hundred) ars
to put in context, on 2001 was 1 usd = 1 ars
this country only can be fixed with lead
/end

Does Memento Mori get good at some point? It's been so bland.

>>6885843
>Doom universe

Anger invade my soul whe i read people talking about Doom lore. nuDoom ruined everything.

>>6885563
aaaaaaand it's gone

>>6886442
you know we are fucked when the venezuelan inmigrants who came here to escape all the commie shit start having flashbacks

I'm so glad I finishing building my PC before this shit started

>>6886559
*finished

>>6886532
Besides feeling like gentrification, it doesn't even try to fit with classic Doom besides "you're the same Doomguy i swear" when they literally changed how Hell even worked
The whole thing seems to cynical, like a contrast to series like SMT and Bayonetta looking more "magical" in comparison
"Most Christian game", my ass, the story sounds more Athiest if anything
A more faithfull "universe" exists in a certain series of wads, mods, projects and Realm667 assets that felt like someone actually tried to study Doom's identity and not treat most of it as an accident or liability

>>6886043
>>6886075
Fuck off civvie drones

>>6886569
Oh piss off. People aren't allowed to like Thief anymore?

>>6886573
What does Thief have to do with retro FPS? It's a stealth game.

>>6886532
Doom has had lore for a long time. At least since Doom 3, minimum.

>>6886516
It'll get better argiebro
The pendulum is starting to swing back and the corrupt lefties are being exposed more than ever

>>6886594
novels by different writers that named the nameless doomguy and decided demons were aliens all along
doom should be treated like how some treat mario or simpsons where something just happens to be done with the series sometimes but there's no proper continuity or lore
maybe also twisted metal or most comic book franchises

>>6886573
I'm not opposed to anything but could you wait even a couple days before hopping on his bandwagon after he uploads

>>6886594
well if I recall correctly the Doom novels go...interesting places

like they become mormon propaganda and the demons turn out to be...wait for it...ALIENS, like in Eternal but without the interdimensional aspect

>>6886601
not him, but there is absolutely nothing to look forward to
like really, we tried liberalism, we tried socialism, nothing works, the country seems to fall apart every fifteen years
so yeah, it sucks, what are you gonna do about it, its like business as usual

>>6885536
The classic zombiemen were just zombie dudes with the same weapons/ammo as the player
This allows variants such as female zombies with plasma rifles, headless zombies, skullfaced dudes with super shotguns or even scientists with axes and fire extinguishers
Anything to fit that possesse/zombie with object role
2016's posssessed soldiers come off as mutated flesh beings with flesh merging it with their super sci-fi armor and a non descript pew pew fun
They feel less "versatile" compared to the green haired corrupted dude with a rifle and his bald buddies
It's fun to make fun of Sonic OC's for being laughable but if a series can spawn a type of content that almost fills a specific niche tied to itself, it might as well be a plus

>>6886549
oh hi Todd

pdf still up: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2486/0276/files/QUAKE_essays_SEP15_FIN4_GRACoL_CL.pdf?v=1600226971
archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200916175413/https://store-uk.nin.com/products/quake-vinyl
mirrored text: https://pastebin.com/tRJs9A4S
mirrored pdf: http://www.mediafire.com/file/zid6yavbp5tv1tk

>>6886623
Oh yes, it's completely ridiculous, and I probably should have just mentioned Doom 3. I just find scapegoating nu-Doom for everything under the sun like >>6886532 does to be disingenuous given the many, many directions the franchise has taken over the years.

Can I run No Rest for the Living and SIGIL in Crispy or will I need a different port?

>>6886601
>thinking going full jairdrone will help your country

>>6886661
Yeah, just put the wads in the same directory as doom1 and doom2. Master levels also work.

>>6886656
Doom 3 at least seemed a bit honest it was a reboot (besides adding a 3 to the name which lead to a funny and stupid logo because of the tiny 3 at the end of "doom")
But the new games seem to rewrite the setting even more
I guess the hype over them (besides being a breath of fresh air compared to other games at the time and it being a canonization of a version of Doom people made up) has to do with how it was expected to be a disaster before it game out
People went from shitting on Doomguy's new look to thinking having a face in Eternal is weird
Might also be because of the cancelled "Call of Doom" but erasing the visual distinction Doom used to have from Halo and WoW isn't that great, even if only slightly better than the canned Doom 4

>>6886623
Thay's how I used to feel about Brazil before I left social media amd stopped watching the pozzed news and discussing politics with strangers
Both sides keep saying the armaggedon will happen if the other side win but it's never that bad
Better to focus exclusively on the things that make you happy, live according to your values and hope for the best.

>>6886252
half-life didn't come out either of those years

>>6885563
>Side C
Wait wuh? I don't know jack about records, but how are three sides a thing?

>>6886668
It's not
Keeping one or the other group from winning enough to accumulate absolute corruption power, that's what helps.

>>6886715
says 2xLP, one side out of four must be empty

>>6886670
That's easier than I thought it would be. Thanks man.

https://files.catbox.moe/a4p12c.zip
crispy widescreen hud

>>6886725
(wonder if that side has a datatrack with a copy of Quake on it)

>>6886725
Oh didn't notice that

is it possible to put a game in a vinyl record

>>6886737
the true /vr/ experience

>>6886732
Thanks man! Where did this come from?

>>6886737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEmMPOHEdE4

>>6886693
I admit, life itself is not bad, and if people got though 2001 they can get through nuclear winter
but god damn its so enfuriating to have your shit leeched like that, really brings the snake flag memes out of you

>>6886732
Any other widescreen assets added yet?

>>6886718
fair

as someone who votes leftist, you see a lot of morons suck up to someone because they 'own the libs', never mind Hugo Chavez fucked his country up and China isn't fucking socialist.

let's just hope you don't get an idiot like duterte who people think is not corrupt because "he's honest"

>>6885604
Fuck off with your pixelshit fetish. Doom looks objectively better with filtering on modern screens.

>>6886818
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/99021-doom-neural-upscale-2x-v-10/
At least use this

>>6886818
>Fuck off with your pixelshit fetish.
Literally where do you think we are?

>>6886602
>>6886676
Making the demons aliens completely changes everything. Even being "inter-dimensional" you can still imagine a physical place, a biology or home worlds etc. Them being actual demons, from Hell makes them "ethereal" or intangible. Something unexplainable. Not just from a parallel universe but a different plain of existence, opposite of God and Heaven.

Even in D&D and fantasy games "demons" are just monsters or in capeshit "gods"are just dudes in spandex with really high stats.

>>6886775
Here's a crispy version for No End In Sight.

https://files.catbox.moe/3a3i81.zip

>>6886818
I don't have a pixelshit fetish. But I DO have a fetish for giving retards (you)s.
Retard.

40oz finished his reviews of 2048 maps, check this thread if you want some feedback (most of it is pretty brief)
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/1850/2048-units-vr

>>6886638
> Legal complications prevented the use of any vocals, but there was a wide open field for building the soundscape of the game.
Huh, that's weird. Wonder what legal shit that could have even been. Bizarre.

>>6886840
Here's some for BTSX.
https://files.catbox.moe/dsyru6.zip

BTW, to make widescreen HUDs work in crispy they have to be around 428x28 pixels (usually 54px offset in the x direction).

>>6884896
Yes, plural. No one remembers QUMP.

>>6886882
With this information, you can turn any of these huds into a crispy compatible one using slade's crop function.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=37960

>>6886693
How is your new game Marky Mark?

first timer here, looking to mod. what can you pack in a wad? I know the map, but can you do graphics, sound and music? can you edit the menu of the game, or is that part of the executable? does each map have its own menu?

>>6886852
Nice
Whoever made the post could answer some of his questions and thank him for the feedback

>>6886638
It's nice to read snippets from people who developed games during a time where everyone wasn't producing marketable shit from Santa Monica, I have no idea why this "certain unnamed video game publisher" was against this being bundled with the vinyl, but I'm sure it's something stupid

>>6886924
Try playing the game first. Then use Google there are plenty of tutorials for everything you need to get started.

>>6886852
>he misspells my nickname twice

>>6886852
>One of the authors of my favorite wad called my map nice

>>6886852
I'd recommend adding this mod to your gzdoom autoload, but especially for 2048. It's toggleable in the options, so you could theoretically always have it loaded to go.

https://jp.itch.io/doom-pistol-start

>>6886921
Go back to ZDoom with that shit fuck face

>>6886924
WAD means "Where All Data". It contains all the data you mentioned. The only thing you can't change through the wad is game logic, and even then there is thing called DEHACKED which is supported by every notable source port. Then there's GZDoom, where people are making fucking commercial side-scrolling platformers on it.

How often does this general do mapping collabs i.e. 2048 ? Do you use shit like Quoth or Arcande Dimensions?

>>6886824
My biggest grip with this and the other upscaling packs is mostly because it suffers from the AI Upscaling syndrome of not having any post polishment to remove some unwanted details artifacts and so on, like fixing the texture details to make it more noticeable.

>>6885497
Still based for making fun of a /pol/cuck.

>>6887037
the rules are made by the Celephais mafia and the discord mapping group, anon.

>>6886623
>nothing works, the country seems to fall apart every fifteen years
>vote x candidate, pillage everything, everything falls apart
>vote y candidate, pillage everything, everything falls apart
>vote x candidate again
the population of this country deserves to be exterminated

>>6887037
occasionally
there have been two quake collabs to date, and iirc both used vanilla progs

>>6886617
>>6886569
I didn't even know he uploaded a new part today. He can suck my dick though because he's using the objectively worse t2 texture pack along with le hd objects. That shit fucks me right off and everyone fucking falls for it because they're ticked on by default in tfix.

>>6887037
Whenever someone feels like hosting something. When we're done with the Blood project, I would like to start another Quake project (HUH 2) using Quoth.

>>6887091
>t2
He's playing thief 1 tho

>>6887113
Exactly. Some fucking moron thought it would be a good idea to make a texture pack that replaces all the Thief 1 textures with their Thief 2 equivalents, or the closest ones they "felt" were a good replacement.

It fucking ruins the aesthetic of all the missions as most of the Thief 2 textures were de-saturated since they added colored lighting into the engine between games. I guess they felt between games why bake in the colors when the lighting can do it for us? They look fucking horrible and lifeless in thief 1 which wasn't designed for them. And people fall for it all the time because "well duhhh it's the newer game so they must be more hd!!!"

Yes I'm this fucking mad about what texture packs people play with. Nothing pisses me off more than the HD mod though, look at this horseshit.

Playthrough videos of map03 and map04 of darkhell.wad are up. Two videos at once because map03 doesn't really have anything going for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s8swqInilE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjbRDRJWWx0
Also, I noticed that my audio recording settings keep resetting themselves, hence the bad quality in the last videos. But now, even if I manually correct them, the audio becomes extremely crackly after a random amount of time, ruining the entire recording. I lost more than 40 minutes of footage because of that. I think that I'll either do post-commentary for the rest of darkhell.wad maps, or stop doing commentary altogether. I can't into English anyway.

>>6886852
>Man this map was brutal!
>Some of these traps are cruel!
>...my anxiety was pretty high through out.
Just as intended

>>6887113
Examples of wrong different aesthetics (vanilla vs TFix):
https://imgsli.com/MzgyMw
https://imgsli.com/MzgyMw/2/3
https://imgsli.com/MzgyMw/4/5
https://imgsli.com/MzgyMw/6/7

>>6887209
wait, TFix does that? why the fuck..?
I knew it replaced the models without asking (like those periscope cameras), but I thought the only textures replaced were the water textures, optionally.

>>6887209
nevermind, checked the installer. guess I just blanked on the other options.

>>6886971
I'm pretty sure it's because of American talking about iD becoming more corporate over time in his last paragraph, I'm pretty sure either Zenimax or iD themselves were a bit perturbed by that.

how do I add custom textures to a map? how do I create the textures?

>>6887314
Get Slade. Replace pop in a png or whatever image you want that's the same dimensions and name of the texture you want to replace. Right click and convert to Doom graphic (make sure Doom1 or Doom2 is set as your base). Done.

>>6887039
that pack goes into detail on the process used to touch up the details after the upscale and downscale altered them. it's definitely the most faithful of these types of things.

>>6887332
>https://imgsli.com/MzgyMw
I am using a Mac and slade is broken as fuck so I'm using Eureka instead

>>6887098
>When we're done with the Blood project, I would like to start another Quake project (HUH 2) using Quoth
I'd definitely be on board with it. Not sure if throwing Quoth into the mix is the best idea if we get a bunch of beginners again.
I'd also be willing to make a hub if no one else wants to.

>>6887356
I'm not sure you can do it with map editors. Try SlumpEd, WinTex, or XWE if they have mac versions. John Romero made Sigil on a mac so it must be possible.

2048 units of /vr/ on idgames (and a friendly speedrunning competition among the anons) when?

>>6887337
i think is mostly because, in my opinion they should look adrian carmack's hd sprites for mac and 3do wolf ports and take notes to make them hd

>>6887365
a beginner can submit a vanilla map and it will remain compatible with a quoth mapset, no? same balance and everything. I think the knights will change color to that beige skin, but that's about it.
I don't get the attitude anyway, wouldn't starting out with hack-free state toggles, rotates etc be more beginner-friendly?

>>6887158
>>6887209
I wasn't aware that was a thing. I didn't notice during the video either, but that's because I watch stuff like that in the background.

>>6887209
>>6887482 here
replied too soon
many of the changes are at least decent choices, but that drop in saturation is shit, agreed.
it's an easy fix too, and that it wasn't done is just... yeah, kinda irksome.

I just want to say how much I love the maser. Thank you, that is all.

>>6887470
As far as I'm aware, everything will be mostly the same in terms of enemy values. I don't know how much the flashlight or plasma cannon would alter the flow of vanilla-style maps though.

>>6887392
I think when Repugnus feels satisfied there's nothing left to change

>>6887506
Well you wouldn't have to worry about that because most Quake projects aren't played continuously and each map starts you off from scratch.
>>6887512
I am satisfied, I just haven't gotten around to uploading it yet.

>that final room on Metal in TnT.

>>6887563
you're going to sit there and wait AND YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING LIKE IT

>>6887572
>wait
>it's another closet with the CG placed farthest away from you
Really not liking the low amount of SSs and Blue armor. Though the map with the hundred or so hitscanners was pretty fun for the slaughter of it all.

>>6887582
TNT's weird because it has some great set pieces and gunfights and then it throws shit like that lift sequence at you. And then there's whatever the fuck MAP21 was.

>>6885497
t. Krist the 30 Year Old Boomer

>>6887496
Final Doomer has been among my favorite weapon replacers ever since it came out.
>multiple arsenals with focused themes based on famous level packs
>weapons that work in simple ways, are intuitive and fairly unique, and mostly don't overlap in ideas with other sets
>good spritework, loud firing sounds, highly satisfying melee for almost every class
>takes most players using always-run into account, normal walking speed is made slower to easily traverse over catwalks
>Slot 6 and 7 don't share ammo by default so players don't feel the need to prioritize only one, can be turned off if too OP
>neat pistols with infinite ammo so they don't get superseded by slot 4 guns, have reload functions to balance this out, both of which can also be turned off
>funny little flavor text pops up if you have the GZD defauly reload key bound
>bunch of QoL options for personal preference
It's a good reminder that you don't need leveling systems or 5 altfires to stand out, just make some fun weapons to use.

>>6887610
would be cool if they added some more weapon sets for recent wads. still my favorite, though. very little is on its level.

>>6887046
>the population of this country deserves to be exterminated

If you are older than 22-23 years old you should now understand how this country works.

Don't spend money on anything, always work and save in USD, etc.

Then theres is the cycles. Here we are at the end of the leftist bear market that has been going on since 2002/03. Big things will come starting in 2022-2023.

No Argenzuela possible.

>>6887639
I think Shivers said that people requesting weapons for X megawad would probably go on for as long as the mod stays updated just because of its concept. I don't remember if he ever said anything about wads needing to meet certain criteria, but I think an Eviternity set would be cool.

>>6887669
yeah, obvs not everything is possible. eviternity definitely has enough character to warrant some cool heavenly weaponry or something, though.

>>6887470
>I don't get the attitude anyway, wouldn't starting out with hack-free state toggles, rotates etc be more beginner-friendly?
Arguably, having too many options from the start can end up as information overload as someone tries to work on all these features just because they exist and the map suffers for it.

>>6885520
We're gonna have to do a v1.3 release, by the way, because I found some bugs to address while playing today, two of them serious.

By the way, big props to the guys who made Baal's Coliseum and Caliginous Cauldron, incredibly impressive maps.

>>6885529
What's preventing you?

>>6887042
>Still based for making fun of a /pol/cuck.

Friendly reminder that Crispy Doom defaults to 2.0 horizontal mouse acceleration, turn that shit to 1.0 to make everything feel way more responsive.

>>6887746
What bugs?

So since my hardest difficulty isn't gonna have respawning but it is gonna have fast and more monsters than the other difficulty settings, should I still have twice as much ammo as the others or is the regular amount fine?

>>6887813
regular should be fine, or extra placed ammo if that's possible

near z clipping kinda works for small walls, but anything bigger (like this bsp node bounding box) has fixed point overflow issues.


Solving this would make clipping for most walls slower than necessary, so I think I'll make a separate routine which handles these more accurately.

>>6887879
and here clipping works fine against this small wall

>>6884992
dwars

>>6887879
what am i looking at here?

>>6887746
>We're gonna have to do a v1.3 release, by the way, because I found some bugs to address while playing today, two of them serious.
You can't leave us hanging anon...

>>6887915
genesis fps engine anon is working/reworking
>>6887879
>>6887887
Neat.

>>6887905
I want to fuck his rabbit boipussy so bad

>>6887761
>posting an irrelevant mainstream game to try and imply it's somehow less superior than gibbering about jews/trannies/brown people

40oz completed the rest of 2048 Units of /vr/, including the maps in the Extras folder. Here's a link to his critiques on the Doomer Boards.
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/1850/2048-units-vr

>>6888017
oh shit i just saw that another anon already did this

>>6886442
Damn that's though Argiebro. Didn't you also have health problems in the family?

>>6886250
Polite bump

>>6887963
Shockingly he actually has a few entries on rule34. I searched for a laugh by the way, not for actual use.

>6th gen games are now aloud on /vr/
does that mean I can post the one game that triggers everyone

anyone know a good way to find more specific non-doom zdoom mods? like for Strife, or Heretic? I feel like i have to just punch in "strife" into the zdoom forum searchbar and cross my fingers i find a thread about an actual mapset or mod for it

>>6886795
Why can't Morales be president of every country

I was having issues trying to figure out what the fuck what I wanted to for an altfire for this gun, but I finally got something I'm happy with: Short range beam with big dick burst damage, lose the gun for a bit. Can also eat projectiles.

>>6886531
Its a 1995 wad, like TNT. I think its best maps are better than TNTs best, but TNT was undeniably the more coherent wad.
If you want faster-paced gameplay, you're better off avoiding most 90's era wads.

>>6888340
looks stupid

>>6886267
Say now that The bethesda port has dehacked support, will it mean we will see Rekkr on there also?
this is mostly for curiousity.

>>6888340
looks cool
>>6888387
show me your creations

>>6888387
Can't win them all.

>>6888396
He's entitled to speak his mind, even if he doesn't go into detail.

>>6888340
>>6888387
looks stupid cool

>>6888396
>>6888413
it's like the micropenis version of bfg

>>6887610
I can say though the fact that yholl had begun the project to make it mostly as a plutonia weapon set which has then decided to replace all the Fonts to the plutonia/tnt ones, then he expanded it with Tnt weapon set and then when he decided to expand it again with the doom weapon set he had to re-add the doom weapons, font and graphics, kinda made me wonder why did yholl did this to himself.

Does anyone have a prboom+ version with the mouse fix?

>>6884834

>>6888438

>>6888408
yeah ill go into detail. burst fire is the most cliche alt fire ever, and i just dont like guns that look like level 1 wizard spells.

>>6888441
Good thing it isn't a burst fire. I don't like those either. It's a short range beam, it does high burst damage yeah, but it's just one projectile.

Don't know what to tell you regarding the style thing, that's just a personal preference, but it's just the pistol out of a six weapon set out of a mod with 4 playable classes. You got other options.

You know, I think I just stumbled into a massive wealth trasnfer scheme but you need to be a chick to pull it off.

You know how vtubers are popular and shit? you know how the dog got hammered with views and donations after she played Doom?
So assuming you are a woman or a man with a really feminine voice you could set up a crash/buny girl 3D model and make bank playing Doom and other retro FPS games.

>>6888440
nigger

>>6885941
>>6887998

>>6886718
>lets vote in "people" who literally want to destroy the environment, nothing wrong with that and no long term consequences

You deserve a mass grave.

>>6888428
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106866-prboomumapinfo-v-2517/?page=13&tab=comments#comment-2151685
seed's comment. use the 64 version if you have a 64 bit OS. graf and fabian still haven't released a new version so this build is the best thing out there unless you can compile a build yourself

>>6887158
Good lord that looks bad.

>>6888497
/v/ is much worse than /pol/. At least on /pol/tards can have coherent conversations even if they are /x/-tier schizo shit. Half the faggots from /v/ post like bots.

>>6885617
t. nigger tranny

Return to Danger for wolfenstein is DOGSHIT

>>6884862
It's so weird to me how so many people are just now discovering Doom 64 when it's been playable on PC for years.

>>6888506
thanks anon!

Don't give too much of a fuck about it myself, but thought you guys would be interested. Love ya, Doomiekins. <3

I need wads with improved movement, but zmovement doesn't feel good to me. Are there any other wads?

>>6888617
All this stuff is invisible to normies and fresh zoomers.

Doom modding has changed. It's becoming more corporate. Zoomer are noobs with different expectations. They don't care about the history of Memento Mori or visplane overflows or whatever. They want large impressive visuals and brutal gameplay. You now need to do advertising and persuasion techniques to get your wad out there to the masses. Don't hate the game, hate the players.

>>6888039
yes, my dad had a stroke last year but we can say that rightly or wrongly it's solved, it could have been a lot worse
>>6887660
>always work and save in USD
>

>>6888438
>>6888440
I see a mix of Doom 3, Quake 4 and possibly Q2 vanilla rusted metal and Juggernaut temple tilesets

>>6887158
It is that hard to make a Upscaled Gigapixel pack with some post polishing?

>>6887804
>>6887918
One's a softlock which nobody has mentioned, another is straight up a blockmap/node problem which I'm really surprised nobody has caught yet. Then there's a number of smaller ones, one or two sectors tagged secret which you can either miss tagging really easily, one which you can't tag at all.

>>6886579
Check OP
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
>(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)

>>6888790
>25 lucas por 200 dolares

Here I was thinking I was going to buy myself something nice like an e-reader with my freelance money, but I better save that shit just in case this becomes Mad Maximiliano or my PC breaks down.

Its not even that much per month but its more than the $200 quota they put on people. Jesus.

Can't have shit in MAP 13 Downtown I guess.

But enough of that shit. What the fuck is wrong with Doom Retro not having proper 16:9 support? it does have this halfway implementation that stretches the screen but leaves black bars but its not 4:3 so I dunno what the fuck it is.

Rise Of The Triad, Alf-Life, and Bioshock, are all good games.

I really don't like Hexen

>>6888896
y not?

>>6888882

most modern fps's are good games, we just don't talk about them because it's not the point of these threads

whoever said that Q2 maps are bad or challenging, im getting mauled alive by the 98 ones at the dropbox posted by anon
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h903yx4ebv19oge/AABuB38MjMrcT9Ysdg9mDMaXa

>starts mutated!
>1st part of the map has asshole gunners doing what they do best
>berserker traps followed by troops and enforcers with impossible reaction
>Weapon and ammo drops out of enemies, which fucks you over because the biggest troll that the map has is the gunners dropping grenades when you kill them, which automatically replaces your weapon and it kills you.
>it turns out is a well designed map because the 3 above has what Vanilla Q2 doesnt have

also im impressed seeing how well the ruskie texture pack blends well with the lightmaps

>>6888913
there is also the fact that they lack mods or community maps to play 24/7
Which was the backbone of retro fps up to 2008

What soundfont do you normally use? For me, it's the PC98 soundfont

>>6888901
Too little weapons and the switchhunting across maps is honestly annoying
And the weapons that are there don't really feel good to use
Liked Heretic much more even if it's just a simple DOOM clone

>>6888951
Ok I'll give you that.

Man, Golden Souls 2 is good fun and has a lot going for it but I can't help but think that the encounter design is pretty fucking weak. The large open areas in a lot of maps combined with the plethora of weapons accurate at long range just makes me go into shooting gallery mode way too often.

>>6888936
Some anon recommended to me Mysung Kite months ago, and it's the one I use 99% of the time. If I'm playing OG Doom, I use the SC-55 music packs (they automatically play when using Chocolate/Crispy anyway). Some wads recommend a specific soundfont; for example, Valiant recommends Arachno to along with it, and Back to Saturn X recommend SC-55. If I am playing the Doom 4 Vanilla mod, I like to play with the 8-bit NES soundfont. Those are pretty much the only exceptions. I have dozens that I test out and Mysung Kite just sounds better than the other most of the time. I haven't tested PC98 but I will next time I play

>>6888918

It's the same for most retro games, if they don't have a active modding community that's constantly being supported we rarely talk about them, there isn't that much to talk about, other than:
>"remember that other retro fps"
>>"yeah, it was cool, that one level was bitch"
>"play any good wads lately"

honestly this whole general could be renamed /fpssourceports/ at this point. Sure we have an occasional blake stone or redneck rampage post here and there but 95% of the time we are talking about community content for a hand full of source ports for an even less amounts of games. Nothing wrong with this, I play a shitton of gz these days, but fuck, look how little we actually talk about duke and he's like a pillar of retro fps's

>>6888957
Thanks, I will treasure it

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1306587080903008256/photo/1
Logan knows what's up.

>>6889013
if he was born in 1985 he wouldn't have been able to get the original doom games for free on the internet

>>6889013
if he was born in 1985 he wouldn't be writing like a retard at age 8

>>6889021
I got my first Doom copy from a friend on floppy disk.
And that floppy had a destructive virus on it. Thanks, former friend.

>>6888918
It begs me to wonder if anyone has tried to backport Q2 Lightmaps and particles back to Q1, the N64 port had that and and the lightmaps made some maps more eerie than it was

>>6888787
As we all know if you were born after Ren & Stimpy premiered you're automatically a retarded tiktok reddit tumblr twitter zoomer cuck who thinks brutal doom is the peak of modding and listens to that horrible billie eilish

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-nzVMqj0qg

y'all niggas postan in a dum bread

Now that Most of Q2 Weapons are out for QC(Minus the railgun since that is a ETQW Model), i expect seeing Classic Doom weapons soon Smart move using the Chaingun as HMG Skin

>>6888967
i still need to play that one

>>6889157
We already have the super shotgun.

>>6882587
No, it's absolutely the Ol' Painless toy, because they turned its greebling into wall textures and (unused) sprites, just like they did with the Roargun toy.
They just reworked the barrels a little.

Tech pillar is partially made from Ol' Painless barrels

>>6889173
where can you buy these toys?

Some unused sprites, some of it was incorporated into wall textures I'm pretty sure (I'll go look).

>>6889163
i know, but they may be doing that and i even see it as rewards for playing the Unity port.
I would like to see what they would use from the original sprites, also i see Doom 3 stuff coming out soon, they pretty much did all of Q4's arsenal besides the Grenade launcher

>>6889173
Q2 Chaingun in QC is literally named Ol' Painless
https://quake.bethesda.net/en/news/2J8iUQGSXv14LDK3u6u4zi

>>6889181
Ebay or craiglist may have them but they may be expensive due to collector status

Was looking into an all secrets playthrough. This looks pretty neat.

http://www.classicdoom.com/maps/d1secs/d1.htm

Alright, here's some detail we see from the Ol' Painless

>>6889191

>>6889193
3rd one reminds me of a soundblaster pro card with the memory expansion, if my memory isn't failing me.

Harder to spot, but it's there.

Should I play Plutonia with the pistol start mod for the first time?

>>6889202
Depends on what difficulty you're playing. I probably wouldn't go in Ultra Violence and pistol start for a first time.

>>6889196
Plausible, they did use a lot of old computer parts to make textures out of as well.

>>6889021
My first IBM PC (had Apples before) came in '94 with Doom and Heretic already installed, and I really doubt those versions were legit.

>>6889210
the right one looks like a cassette tape with a wall edit on the top of it

>>6889207
They also used old computer parts as shurikens to throw at the walls in the office.

have you guys ever felt connected tour bfg on a spiritual level?

>>6889240
They was a wild bunch!

>>6888206
Well you could specifically search the "levels" subforum.

>>6888440
I happened to just watch Bridgeburner map this on stream yesterday. He took like 10 minutes getting that little red ceiling light right. This mapset better play well too.

Huh, so apparently you can actually co-op play 2048 Units Of /vr/ in Hideous Destructor, assuming you bring some rope ladders and something to bust doors with.

>>6889045
colored .lit in fitz was 2008.
mhcolour was 2009.
keep up, gramps.

lightmap replacements for vanilla do exist (though afaik none are quite as garish as Q64).
as evidenced by AD, custom pseudo-particles are possible to do without any special engine support. but some ports have used a variety of alternate particle systems over the years.

Can someone with twitter ask the devs of the Unity port to add pistol starts? Thanks!

>>6884862
When has Doomguy ever said anything other than "Oof", pant or AAaarrgh

>>6889580
He says AOOEEARGH a lot when I play him.

ok near z clipping seems to work now

>>6889580
Is it implied in the episode end screens that he's telling a story after the fact?

>>6888741
it's customizable, if it doesn't feel good to you then you haven't tweaked it enough.

the old Q2 Custom maps doesn't fuck around in nightmare, and im still in the febuary 98 folder
its making me reconsider the old meme that Q2 enemies aren't good. its not a bait, its kinda true

Berserkers can really fuck you up in groups if you dont have a SSG, and said maps doesn't add them earlier on and you are limited to low ammo and blaster, and the old maps having tight corridors good for traps and perfect for fucking gunner grenade and sniping spam.

Also Guards SHINE, they were shit in Vanilla Q2, but since they are well positioned and most of them are smg and shotgunners, not the blaster guards...
It feels like im playing short doses of Hell revealed and memento mori. incarceration is literally a good but short space station map, its feels like a good AVP1 map with traps in it with the fucking parasites.

Is there a way to way to optimise GZDoom? My shitty laptop lags when trying to play Golden Souls.

>>6889732
Switch to Vulkan, make the internal render 856x480.

>>6889732
Try rendering in Vulkan, it brings about substantial improvements for some people. Also turn off any smear filter or smudge effect.

Can anyone recommend me some weapon mods with deep melee mechanics?

>>6886250
Bumping again for feedback. Today I started working on a shopping mall and it totally kicks my ass with the standard Doom textures.

For me it's Alien Vendetta.

>>6885040
I am pretty fond of the map but I spent a LONG time being lost.

>>6884834
Are there any mods that add third person animation on multiplayer to Doom 1/2?

>>6889879
complex doom shows which weapons people are holding, not sure if theres a standalone one.

>>6889885
based

does anyone have the .mp3s of the remastered quake OST yet?

How stable is Blood multiplayer co op?

>>6889905
I played a match with an anon here over BloodGDX and it was pretty stable and fun.

>>6889908
NBlood multiplayer is faster now

>>6889917
>>6889908
And Fresh Supply? I need the most simple and brainlet way to get my friends to play such an old game

>>6889923
Fresh Supply multiplayer is terrible, there are some ridiculous bugs that make coop almost unplayable.

>>6889929
damn, really? I finally started playing it this week for the achievements but wanted to give co op a shot

>>6889929
Guess i have to make a bainlet pack for them with nBlood
Where can i get nBlood?

>>6889580
In Doom Eternal

>>6889959
i'm pretty sure that drawing was made before eternal was even announced

>>6888395
that would be neat
>>6889616
Feels like the camera rotates in front of where the player position is.
Didn't drakkhen kinda do that in the overworld?

>>6888823
All the upscaled packs always go too far. I don't want 2K textures in a low poly brush based game.
I did one that was scaled up 4x (so 256x256) but didn't finish it.
I think I'll crack it open again and see where I left off... Tired of seeing that fucked up HD mod...

>>6890012
tbqhfam I don't understand why it's gotta be fucking 4x or 8x sized, isn't it enough with just 2x? You can fit so much fucking detail on that already.

Are the crispy versions of heretic, hexen, and strife feature complete or it better to play them in another source port?

getting a little burned out on dum degozaimasu

i'm getting some persistent crashes when playing HD with ugly as sin, anyone else getting them? seems to be wound related

>>6890057
works on my machine

>>6890027
Thief originally had many 64x64 textures. 4 times is only 256x256. My general plan was to have the textures match the hand drawn mission briefings better, instead of trying to make them look real. Also so textures of statues or whatever taken from the real world would match the in-game lore instead.
I made a few that were 512x512, but mapped to cover twice the geometry as the original textures so they would look the same, and the UVs would line up with texture details, but repeat less. In case someone cut a hole in a brick wall or something, so the hole would still match the bricks...
But anyway. I'm looking at them right now... Might pick this back up...

>>6887158
some of that is a straight up improvement

>>6888374
I've been playing it some more (on map11 now) and I've come around to it a little. It's really alright aside from the weak beginning, and definitely better than TNT.

>>6890102
i hope you realize it was balanced for co-op

And now I'll retire. fuck you Frankie, those mission packs are bullshit and you know it.

fookin fronkie innit

What the fuck happened to the high res texture pack option in the GZDoom options menu? I want to play with darktexturespack_lowres but I can't seem to enable it anymore, what gives? even using console commands doesn't do shit.

>>6890012
when i did the upscaled pack for Q2's monsters i had to edit and upscale 2x, had to learn though trial and error how gigapixel and ai upscaling works.
low res textures for old games with chunky pixels has a 2x limit, Games like Q3A and UT has better detailed and higher res textures, therefore they are good to go.

in the end they still look normal, though i never cared to add more details to make it more like their PCX original input, which shines in software/hw mode.
the doom project had the luck of its dev having access to Nvidia Gameworks tools for AI upscaling.
fact, i had to remake the Iron Maiden's faces because i wanted them to look more distinct like the Q4 Maidens being Female Marines captured after Q2 landfall
Also i must thank calinou for his take on the Manga109 upscale, because the weapons look cleaner and it has more detail.

BTW, if someone is making upscales, they also need to keep an eye on the detail and the original model, so its still 1:1 accurate to the original texture, and it doesn't end up something ugly like the ancient Q1 texture packs which looks too clean.