/vr/ - Retro Games

*memorable

>>6878450
>Exploring Onett at the beginning, fighting Sharks. The whole solo Ness portion of the game was memorable for me.
>Dungeon Man.
>Poo and Jeff's solo sections
>Runaway 5, desert monkeys
>Fourside
>Mr. Saturn
Lots of memorable parts, but those were the first to come to mind. Right now I'm just thinking about the catchy shop music and the dog that gets possessed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsi92-XxTuw

>>6878450
I like to tell people that Ness talks once in the entire game and then telling them no other details

I guess it's a spoiler but it gets people to wanna finish the game

the fights were fun.

>>6878463
i like to believe that the party talks to eachother all throughout the game, the player just cant hear it. given that the player is technically a character in the game.

>>6878509
except the trees. fuck those things.

The treehouse, the coffee break monologue, the museum and beach in Summers, riding Nessie, the trumpet guy, Dungeon Man, riding a bike, Poo meditating, Jeff's sad relationship with his dad, digging in the trash for hamburgers, words of encouragement and love from Mom and Dad, finally figuring out how to beat Giygas, the credit sequence...
I truly love this game.

>>6878450
Moonside

It's weird but honestly one of my favorite parts of Mother 2 is going to Summers. It's like a perfect facsimile of a european tourist trap beach town.

>Going through Ness' Magicant
>That enemy infested bit leading into the Sea of Eden and Ness' evil given form as a Mani Mani Statue
>When all the sanctuary spots overcharge your stats with The Power playing over it
That and everything else after you enter the Phase Distorter is the good shit.

>>6879658
summers was great. i wish it was longer. honestly i wish the whole game was longer tbqh.

>>6879586
moonside was wack. i bet ness and jeff had a hard time there.

paula

>>6879685
reminder that Ness's Magicant is vastly inferior to Maria's Magicant.

>>6878450
Is this game franchise worth playing to someone that dislikes turn-based stat grinding? is it different or unique enough to not just be work?

>>6880812
Not bad at all

>>6880809
ness and paula

>>6880819
maria's magicant and ness's magicant are so different that its hardly comparable.

>>6880882
if they are called by the same name then I shall compare them.

>>6880894
thats dumb. and youre also wrong.

would the story of 3 been different if it followed ness and pokey rather than lucas and pokey?

>>6880827
it depends. its easy to emulate though, so id say give it a shot. its a little slow until you get paula, but if you arent feeling it by the time you get to jeff, it might not be for you.

>>6880809
Best girl

>>6881413
>would the story be different if the main character was different
Probably

Why is paula so fast?
She has insane speed growths

>>6882467
she uses PSI fire to make her go fast.

>>6882476
>Not using PSI Gaming.

>>6880827
Mother 1 is a pretty basic and grindy NES JRPG with the Mother flavor you'd expect but there's double/quadruple XP and money hacks which very much ease it out.
Mother 2 barely has grinding, though most of it is frontloaded until around getting Paula.
Mother 3 has almost no grinding.

Peak earthbound is nuking everything with psi freeze, the heavy bazooka and starstorm while ness does nothing

>>6882787
>not using rockin or lifeup
you have chosen the path of pain.

>>6882787
Fucking around with Paula and Poo's PSI Magnet, Jeff's HP sucking machine, and Ness' PK Flash is the way to go.

>>6882792
>getting hurt when you're casting nukes at everything

>>6882804
>he doesnt know

>>6882809
>not having poo mirror these so he can heal the party
It's literally the only time mirror even approaches usefulness

>>6882787
peak EB is having ness be the heavy hitter and healer, while paula and poo take as many shots as possible before they have to be healed again, with jeff fucking with his bazooka

>>6882825
Seems pretty standard to me

>>6882823
>relying on mirror to actually work

>>6882827
because it works best. the nukes are cool but relying on them is a huge meme. you should only need one per boss at most.

post headcannons.

>>6878552
Treehadi pieces of shit

>>6882448
let me try and rephrase in a less retarded way, would it have been better if this were the case? what would be different?

>>6882787
Heavy Bazooka is such a fucking good item. Jeff never needs to basic attack ever again.

>>6882853
Jeff and Paula.

Whoever did the sound design and graphic design for all the PSI moves in Earthbound don't get enough credit.

>>6883095
for real.

>>6880809
>>6880812
>>6880870
>>6882236
Pedos leave

>>6883351
whatever, homo.

>>6883368
>not being attracted to children makes me gay

>>6883174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ42Afr_F3E
I particularly like the sounds of PK Flash and the two Shield types.

>>6883616
Rockin and freeze are my favorites

Is it weird that I think that Mother 1 had better gameplay mechanics in some ways?
Like attack and defense buffs. Mother 1 maxes out those stats when buffed which makes buffing and debuffing really useful. Earthbound only offers really small boosts.

>>6884804
In that area, yeah. The debuffs in 2 are mostly useful against bosses, but not most enemies

>>6883351
There is no pedo shit here, anon. Lolis are for headpats, not for lewds.

>>6878450
anyone got that fan art of the super buff poo, paula, ness, and jeff where poos holding a tiny sword of kings?

>>6883616
All of the debuffs have cool effects

>>6884804
In Mother 1 buffing and debuffing was incredibly important. It's pretty much a complete afterthought in Mother 2, aside from shields.
Then Mother 3 actually went back and made buffing/debuffing important again.

>>6886146
the dubuffs in 2 can be useful during boss fights, ive found.

>>6885235
There might be others like it too

>>6886268
you know what is also useful for boss fights? Multi-bottle rockets.

>>6886357
you know who uses those? homosexuals.

>>6886359
Jeff isn't gay.

>>6886360
A). he is
B). the player is also a fag for using them.

does anyone else like the starmen better than the pigmasks?

>>6886380
I like starmen more than pigmasks, yes.
I like Mother 1's alien enemy roster the most of the three games. It was an invasion force.

>>6886394
i think 2 used the starmen less as an invading force and more of protection of places and areas. giygas didnt really need an invading force since his PSI was so powerful that he could just control/corrupt things at will.

>>6886727
This image makes me think the plague rat of doom is just an empty husk of fur that's being carried around by some insect

>just like your mom you never want to stop

>>6887412
what did he mean by this?

>>6887075
it looks like a corpse.

I don't get why this game was found to be so revolutionary. Yes it has an interesting story but gameplaywise it's pretty much identical to Dragon Quest.

>>6887698
its called ludonarrative resonance anon

>>6887698
Nah mother 1 is the one that was a straight DQ clone (at least in terms of battle mechanics), Mother 2 added enemies on the map, being able to sneak behind them, auto-win if you're overleveled, rolling HP meter which adds a sort of real-time element to the menu-based combat.. that's enough differences from DQ.
Anyway, I don't think people considered this game to be "Revolutionary" in terms of changing the genre or anything. In Japan it's a cult game because the people who worked on it were strong figures with the japanese youth of the 70s and 80s, both Shigesato Itoi and Keiichi Suzuki are legends in their respective fields, and have worked together many times, not just on Mother. Japanese people who were familiar with Itoi knew that his games would deliver his usual personal style when it comes to writing and concepts.
If you take out the context of Itoi's relevance in japanese culture, then you still have something quite unique, an RPG that's set in modern times, and which pokes fun at many RPG tropes, making it sort of a parody game (but still strong enough to not just be a total "joke" kusoge, like Takeshi's Challenge is), it's still a quality RPG, but unlike other RPGs in terms of tone, setting, etc.

Best girl?

>>6886364
Well the devs put them in the game for me to use so...

>>6887698
Think of it as a game series created by a celebrity, because in Japan Shigesato Itoi was one.
It was also incredibly novel to have a Dragon Quest like JRPG set in then modern America, where you get cash from ATMs that your dad funnels money into and the characters being children that use psychokinesis instead of magic plus scenarios like singing a lullaby tune you traveled all of America to find the pieces of to sing it to an invading alien so it gets emotional enough to just want to leave.

>>6887754
Paula.

>>6887802
Just because someone puts a giant black dildo in front of you doesn't mean you have to shove it up your ass like the homosexual you are

>>6887698
Its best remembered because of its unique method of storytelling and atmosphere, not its mechanics, as much as I like them.

>>6888191
What if you sang Maria's lullaby at it

>>6888326
He probably wouldn't recognize it anymore

>>6888334
Sad.

>>6883351
keep crying koomatorafag

>>6880916
i still loathe how Ultimate miss the ball on not adding Ninten and Porky already.

>>6880819
truth

>>6889998
Ninten has the terrible problem of Ness being almost entirely identical to him.
But he would really great if he was a fighter based entirely on buffing and shielding himself. His psi is entirely passive, it's his bat and boomerang that are the actual physical damage dealers.

i wish 3 had more to do with 2. i would have liked to see a continuation of the pokey and ness plotline. or just a game that took place between the two, really.

>>6890335
I wish 3 was just an original game and not awkward sequel

>>6889998
The thing with Ninten is that he didn't have offensive PSI, just buffing and debuffing PSI.
So it would be difficult to create a skill set for him that puts him far enough away from Ness or Lucas, though I guess him using a bat and boomerang would be the first steps.

>>6890335
Wasn't the whole deal that Porky pretty much abducted many different people from many different dimensions/timelines after brainwashing them and then placed them all in the dimension the Nowhere Islands is a thing just to play around with everything like a big toy box? He still basically did all he did because Ness never said he liked him.

>>6890212
People often forget that Ninten also uses Telepathy. Not sure how that would work in a fighting game but maybe something like being temporarily able to control the opponent, or something like that.

>>6891747
yeah, it was kind of a blueball to go from him promising that he would get him at the end of 2 to acting like everything was done with between them.

What is it with this game? I tried playing through it and got bored a few cities in. Just seemed like generic turn based RPG

>>6892127
If you don't like jrpg ganeplay, this game might not be for you.

>>6892127
Mother at it's core is just a basic JRPG series. It's the overall flavor of the world/dialog/characters that keeps people invested in the franchise to this day.

>>6878450
This picture is really stupid. Who the fuck puts children BEHIND themselves when posing for a group photo? I understadnt he artist wanted us to see the kids, but couldn't this have been done more elegantly? The shortest people are standing behind the tallest ones, with the photographer being in the background. For this reason, everyone's facing away too, and the protagonist has to stand as awkwardly as he does. The artist didn't think this through at all before starting and then jury-rigged the composition as they went.

>>6892238
The photo guy always comes down at weird angles

>>6891737
>The thing with Ninten is that he didn't have offensive PSI, just buffing and debuffing PSI.
I like how each time people argue this, it's east to spot the twit who hasn't realy play other Mother games or forget Smash already given creative liberties to the MCs that don't use Offense PSI and rely on Defense/Assist PSI as well.

>>6891737
>The thing with Ninten is that he didn't have offensive PSI, just buffing and debuffing PSI.
I like how each time people argue this, it's east to spot the twit who hasn't realy play other Mother games or forget Smash already given creative liberties to the MCs that don't use the normal Offense PSI and rely on their Signature PSI (Rockin', Love, etc) and Defense/Assist PSI as well.

>>6891737
>>6892597
to put it in perspective

>>6892597
Well with that logic I guess you're right. Could probably just give Ninten PK Beam or something then.

>>6892614
yeah
also, to put it in more perspective, here's the PSI list per main protagonist excluding overworld-exclusive PSI.
Lucas was pretty similar to Ninten's but more reliant on greater Recovery PSI like Refresh and counterattack-based Assist PSI, Ness had even more Assist PSI pertaining to debuffing your oppenents but lacks stuff like anyting that enhances your next attack like Offense Up.

All of them didn't have the usual Offense PSI that their companions learned naturally themselves which makes you wonder why its okay in Smash? In the first Mother game, we know that George not only successfully stolen knowledge from an alien race but the fact this is stuff ANYBODY could be taught by the get-go, and its a ongoing tend. This creative advantage on the source material given the director the chances to actually flesh out the MC for the game, since obviously Smash isn't going to slip up and give the more popular protagonist the spotlight over the lead per series/game inclusion. (asides that asspull of any excuse to justify Min Min

Last but not least, in Smash, at least since Brawl, they use their signature PSI for most of their basic attacks. Ness' basics use to look like generic PSI in 64 and Melee, but after Brawl, they had to make it more akin to PK Rockin but when the opponent (see: Ness Nightmare) is using it, hence why its pink. Lucas' basics looks strikingly like PK Love but it was up until Ultimate they had to make it more blue/yellow.

Ninten obviously doesn't have his own signature PSI or PK Flash, which isn't much of a problem anyways.
either they can reflect this by having a moveset more based on Assist PSI that boosts his basic attacks or debuffs oppenents and let his use generic PSI instead of something based on a signature attack.
PK Beam would defnitely be part of his moveset, plus we even seen how it'd be translated into a Smash title. So maybe it'd be a PK Fire but instead of annoying fire, its annoying hitstun.

>>6892601
goddamn i forgot to delete this fucking post, fucking auto reply.

>>6892721
Something like Mother 1's version of PK Freeze Gamma might be cool, though it could be kinda overpowered.

>>6892749
ohnonnonono, that's going to piss off onlinefags
really, the way they buffed PK Freeze was basically a huge leap they did for Lucas. the distance just goes fast and that freeze could get you to the blastzone in seconds.

>>6892754
The smash community is retarded. Ignore them.

>>6892034
>itoi said that the origonal script for 3 had more to do with 2
>it was canned because of nintendo's idiotic hardware changes
this series got screwed over so fucking much.

>>6894017
There are times I wish this series had a good production process and it continued into a larger series.

>>6894283
>and it continued into a larger series.
isn't that Animal Crossing?

>>6894336
yes, somewhat like that. i think it could have been done if production wasnt such a clusterfuck.

>>6894414
given the absolute state of Nintendo, its a good chance that such a series would have been better to end where it did.

>>6878450
Threed and Blarg's factory. I love spooky Halloween atmosphere. It was a better realized and polished version of some stuff from Earthbound Zero.

>>6894479
threed was fun. i always found the bit where jeff just slams into the ground hilarious.

>>6894479
That gif is amazing

>>6878450
Stumbling onto the cliff that time forgot while in the underground area really struck me deeply. The music is so fascinating/uncanny. So many great moments in the game but that has to be the most memerably

>>6895271
that cliff was always creepy to me. it was definitely a striking moment when i stumbled onto it.

>>6894479
Floored me to find out that the Blarg's Factory theme was taken from the Duncan Factory theme from Mother 1, though it's missing that sad-ish breakdown at the end of the melody.

is there any way to level up just one character specifically?

>>6895546
The only way to do it is to let the other characters die. Remove the other characters’ armor, give each of them a useless item like ‘Ruler’, then get into a battle have them use that item repeatedly (while you Defend) until everyone is dead but you.

>>6895564
Also, once you’re down to the character you want to level up, one of the quickest and safest ways to get exp. is to go after the red caterpillar in Dusty Dunes Desert.

>>6887698
>I don't get why this game was found to be so revolutionary.
Only the hardcore obsessed fanboys consider it that. The only thing it added to the basic RPG formula is seeing enemies on the screen instead of the standard random encounter(and being able to avoid encounters in some cases), and auto-winning when facing enemies you can probably 1-shot. For all the praise the rolling HP/PP counters get, it's really just an easy-mode feature ensuring that your characters won't need to be revived if they take fatal damage while still having enough HP to give you time to throw a heal their way. Which means once you get deep enough into the game to have an HP buffer, you won't be dying unless everyone gets paralyzed or hit with insta-kill something.

>>6887698
idk how revolutionary it is considered but I hate RPGs and love this game because it's got charm out the ass and wasn't really that hard.

>>6887698
It's an anachronistic vision of 1960s and 1980s Americana as held by a Japanese man based on his knowledge of pop culture icons like The Beatles, Chuck Berry, Beach Boys, Rolling Stones and Steven Spielberg, Stephen King, John Carpenter movies before Stranger Things made it become cool.
You have generational clashes like 70s hippies, baseball, yo-yos, classic jazz and rock references alongside skateboard punks, cellphones, arcade and ATM machines and then you have purely adventure settings going through a snow country, desert country, india, jurassic park, aliens, zombies, basically whatever Itoi thought was cool he'd throw in there.

>>6895621
One of Mother's biggest inspirations was actually Peanuts.

>>6895923
One thing I really do like about Mother is the amount of muse potential it has for certain artists.

>>6895932
There's been some great mother art put out over the years

>>6895647
Neat.

>>6895271
What was with the music there? Didn't it only play in that one cliff?

>>6897038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy3s4Yaabfs

yeah it plays on that one screen only. such a great use of delay. and I love how you can stumble upon that screen before you get there in the storyline. REALLY sets up the anticipation that you're entering the final act.

>>6889998
They might add one of them because of mother’s 30th anniversary and the fact that they seemingly stopped adding third party characters for the dlc.

>>6897049
doesnt it play right before you get in the time machine too? what a fucking wild final act. im not sure any other game has come close to the level of fucked the giygas fight was.

Sorry, boomer. This is RETRO video games, not ANTIQUE video games.

>>6897101
probably why the game gets so much acclaim and holds up after the fact. Diverts expectations constantly and has a lot of substance in its imagery.
You can tell the game was written/directed by a novelist.
inb4: LOL THIS IS A KIDS GAME?? IT'S SO TRAUMATIC. LITERALLY NIGHTMARES AS A CHILD xD

>>6897117
i mean, the game was quite dark in a lot of places, but it did so subtly and tastefully that it didnt corrupt the main atmosphere of the game. hell, it improved it exponentially.

In an old Mother thread here, some anons were talking about what PK Beam would be like. Some suggested it might be a laser or plasma beam since Lloyd's guns are equivalent to PK Beam alpha and beta and others suggested that it would have been more like a microwave beam because of how mechanical enemies resist it.

What do you think?

>>6897109
You're about two weeks too late for this shit zoomer.

>>6897145
And you're still discussing antique games on the board for retro games?

>>6897128
Honestly I'd like to know how all the psi moves look.
Fire and rockin are by far my favorite.

>>6897061
>the fact that they seemingly stopped adding third party characters for the dlc.
don't prepare yourself for dissapointment like that.
there's definitely 1 or 2 more coming along with the dreaded 1st party additions nobody asking for. (i.e. another Pokemon starter/FE Lord/Triforce trio character)

>>6897156
I think I like the PSI powers better if they're always represented by trippy, geometric flashes.

A favorite example of mine, is that instead of the game just merely drawing flames over an enemy when you use psi fire. You have an assault of bright red lines and shapes, with sound effects that vaguely sound like a roaring flame. It's actually really creative, IMO and it fits the the more psychedelic style of Earthbound over the more traditional effects other JRPGs would likely use.

I also really love the sound effect for PK Beam in Mother 1. It really makes me think of a large beam whistling down range at a high speed.

>>6897180
The beam slund in 2 felt like you were getting hit by something as opposed to in where you were firing it.

>>6897219
*sound

>>6897219
Oh, like the the beam from the robot enemies?
PSI thunder is also pretty neat when you're on the receiving end. A lot of flashing and screen shaking.

>>6897128
I think of PK Beam like a small beam that Ana shoots out of her index finger like a gun, while PK Beam Omega is a much larger beam that covers way more ground.

>>6897230
Brainshock was also a cool one. I like how the screen moved around.

>>6878450
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDexnVOBsbo
had no idea Earthbound was so influential to South Park, but now that I notice there's a ton of similarities.

>>6897128
in Smash, its a giant reskinned PK Fire as seen in Smash 3DS/WiiU/Ultimate's Starman Assist Trophy
it even has two variants of the attack too (Gamma and Omega respectively):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOrPHHQF6Wo&t=432s

>>6897296
>in Smash
smash is gay though

>>6897319
yeah, reality sucks.
i wish they didn't do it so lazily for Mother 1 fanservice.

>>6897284
With really early South Park I can see the Mother influence for sure.

>>6897356
Isn't the first episode about Aliens coming to their town and anal probing cartman? lol

>>6897426
i dont think that was giegues original intent.

>>6897550
yes but also at the end of Earthbound you basically probe a vagina... close enough lol

>>6897659
>this theory again

>>6897127
When you think about it, these kids went through a lot of shit. How terrified must ness and Paula have been when they got locked in that hole? And moonside was a trip in of itself. What a game.

>>6898457
yeah, all the times Paula gets kidnapped.
She'd be menially messed up for the rest of her life

>>6898462
all of the kids would tbqh. ness and paula getting left to die in threed, jeff and ness getting fucked up in moonside, and then the mu training. its amazing how these concepts were worked in so seamlessly with the rest of the game.

>>6898457
>>6898462
>>6898556
People weren't always huge fucking pussies tho

>>6898556
>giygas repeatedly calling ness's name and echoing his pain through his psychic power
Even now, thinking about that moment makes me want to replay the game.

>>6898562
Oh yeah, 10 year old girls were never upset when they were kidnapped in the 90's

>>6879685
Ness's magicant always made me a little sad. i got the vibe that ness blames himself at least partially for some of the shit that went down, especially between pokey.

>>6898924
Well yeah, him being unfriendly to Porky was, aside from his parents being fucking awful, the perfect catalyst for the Mani Mani Statue taking over his mind with pure spite and evil. Ness is the reason Mother 3 even happened.

>>6899223
i mean, it seemed like ness still wanted to be freinds with pokey to some degree, so its not really ness's fault if pokey turned out the way he did. also people have said it in this thread, but i really wish 3 followed up on pokey's threat of coming back for ness. that would have been interesting to follow up on.

>>6899230
ness was also seemingly only unfriendly to pokey after he sided with carpainter, as before it generally seemed like they were friends to some degree.

>>6899250
Well Porky did help kidnap a young girl to be used as a sacrifice for a insane cult. I'd find it pretty hard to accept their apology too. The Mani Mani influence just sprouted from there.

>>6899514
everyone kind of got screwed over to a degree when you think about it.

does anyone have some of the other concept art for the games?

>>6878450
Falling into Lost Underworld and this guy

>>6899673
Lost underworld was wack. Just a change in sprite size made you feel so much smaller

>>6899673
>the whole underground is the cage

Happy Happy Village is one of my favourite parts of the game.

Encountering the Mr Saturn section, getting confused and lost, and then quitting until over a decade later

>>6878450
>Belch's factory
>Fighting some foppies
>Cousin visits me, sees the game, calls them 'fava beans'
>Have a giggle
>Busy with life so I don't play for a while after that
>Cousin dies
>Haven't touched the game since
>Still call them fava beans

>>6900656
Lmao

>>6900889
Foppies are cool because when they bunch up they're worth shit tons of EXP for that point in the game.
RIP your cousin though.

deep darkness was fun.

>>6901447
not really

>>6901695
whats wrong? you dont like taking continuous damage throughout the whole stage?

post more art you fools

Why did they put the bicycle in the game if you barely even use it?

>>6902514
quick way to get to hospitals, i guess. either that or it was a deliberate joke.

>>6900646
Where's this from

>>6902720
EB has had a few fan made mangas and comics, perhaps its one of those.

>>6902514
look at this loser who didn't take paula home and then ride around the saved world on his bike

>>6902838
>he didnt take paula straight to ness's house and get the ending where she says she wants to spend time with him
get a load of this guy

>>6878450
Making my first real friend from it
>Met a kid who liked Smash, just like me
>He mains Ness
>Tells me all about Earthbound/Mother
>Even lets me borrow his cartridge because he beat it so many times
>We write autistic Earthbound self insert fan fiction
>Both of us get Mother 3 when it comes out in Japan
>Can't even speak Japanese, we were just big fucking losers
>Replay it when the translations start dropping.
>Write more retard fan fiction

Great guy, he even introduced me to my wife. We barely speak now, but he's one of those friends who I'll never grow truly apart from, no matter how long its been.

>this whole thread
Impressed. might be the only thread on /vr/ right now that doesn't have shitposting and bait.

>>6903191
mother threads on /vr/ have always been comfy, ive found.

>>6903191
Mother fans are kinda respectful

>>6903176
Comfy story, if i do say so myself

I really don't give a shit about characters or story, so I didn't pay any attention to that crap.
I most remember moonside and the intermission music. The games got great visuals and music tacked onto a boring turn based RPG. I can see why it didn't sell in the west.

>>6903191
you jinxed it.

>>6903176
Is there any good mother fanfiction out there?

>>6899563
heres one from winters.

>>6903848
Neat.

>>6878450
>color palette
>unusual story
>lsd music/battle screen
>presents and cookies

I played this only as an adult and it was hilarious

>>6902720
>>6902827
https://twitter.com/yueko__/status/1039763489936441344

>>6904738
Oh now, that's cool.

more EB concept art

>>6905836
that looks like fan art

>>6906312
a lot of it is fairly rudimentary, but its still pretty cool.

>>6906542
>>6907139
I love these so much.
Wish there were higher quality scans.
Itoi/Nintendo really need to release a Mother artbook.

>>6878462
LOL nice rip my friend

>>6907145
Id kill for a remake of this game with a similar look to these concept drawings. Imagine how great it could be if there was a party chat or if the battle system was modernized

>>6907187
To be fair the spritework on these dinosaurs look identical or near identical on the actual game.
I'm a bit of a puristfag so I'm fine with the way the original games are, I'd just be happy with a good artbook, but I wouldn't oppose a good remake either, as long as Itoi is involved.

>>6907197
I genuinely feel like the game could benefit from a transition to a more illustrated style, but the original is the best.

best pair.

favorite enemy?

>>6909084
The Starman, honestly. They were a blast to fight.

>>6909084
The mad ducks, is funny to beat the shit out of some docile creatures.

>>6909084
The number 3 moles

>>6909903
The 3 moles were fun, but getting through the cave was a pain in the ass.

>>6909084
Smilin' spheres

>>6888191
the giygas fight gets pretty sad if you play 1. did anyone play cogdis?

>>6911567
Scarab should have been longer tbqh

>>6899673
more like journey to the center of my heart :')

>>6912674
the lost under world was quite the level. the whole game should have been longer.

>>6905836
that's fan-art
it's fangamer stuff done by kenisu3000
still cool tho lol

>>6913072
oddly specific.

>>6913072
now that you mention it, that one does look different than the others.

>>6913179
reverse google image search works for this one
>>6913191
yeah, the style is pretty much his
his works are nice though

>>6913318
according to starman.net, the others are actual concept art though.

>>6913354
i was only talking about the one artwork i replied to, everything else is actual concept art yes

>>6913318
His stuff is pretty neat. I wish there was more mother series art out there.

>>6913547
there is plenty out there, but it can be hard to find and slow to come out. how sad.

>>6909084
the ghost of starmen were cool, when they didnt have those fucking nuclear robots.

should this game get a remake?

>>6916241
not really.
though maybe to flesh out the final locations of the game. I wish some of those last sanctuary locations had bigger dungeons.

>>6916302
>>6916241
I guess it would also be cool if all the kids were more developed characters.

>>6916302
>>6916304
A graphics update, making the game longer and putting in a party chat would be good.

>>6916241
I always thought it would be funny if they remade the game like it was claymation how they used Nintendo ads, but I don't know how it would look it's just something I thought of.

Also how is there like no good scans of official art from this game besides one or two guides

>>6916863
There was a kind of 3d felt look they tried as a concept. I wish EB 64 paned out.

>>6909084

>>6916929
i always hated those things.

Who the fuck thought this was okay? How did this get through balancing or wahtever?

>>6918258
If you're having trouble with those trees then you just didn't grind enough beforehand.
Like I can see why people say Grateful Dead Valley is pretty much a gamestopper for a bunch of people, but it really all just coming down to grinding a bit and having the best gear. There's butterflies everywhere as well so you can keep Lifeuping with impunity.

>>6916241
There's a bunch of people working on an indie remake of Mother 2 called Mother Squared right now which looks pretty cool. Also aside from that, another group are doing a remake of Mother 1 called Mother Encore which also looks great.

>>6918269
That's fair, I just felt like this part was much harder than the happy-happy village and the cave there
Currently playing it for the first time, this shit fucking rocks, heading back to Twoson right now after beating Carpainter, Mondo Mole and grinding a bit, how much of the game have I beat, percentually? I suppose this is around 10%, might try to beat it all today

>>6918287
Yeah I'd say 10/15% through. You got a shit ton of game to go.

>>6916241
Dont remake, but make more EB games in the same style, but maybe add in some new features (as long as it doesnt fuck upthe game)

>>6905836
Mr. T inna tube bruh

>>6918453
>>6916241
I don't think Itoi will ever make anything related to games again, do you think they could pull off something that's actually good without him? Remake or a new game

>>6918464
Isn't that what Oddity is? Before they were forced to stop calling it Mother 4.
They seem to have the general flavor down, though I'll miss all the quite good arrangements of Mother songs that were originally gonna be in it. Like shit the arrangements of Snowman and the "waking up at a hotel" theme are fantastic.

>>6918464
I think it could be possible of the effort is put in.

>>6917525
They're very annoying to fight, but I love their design.

>>6900646
m-more??

>>6918258
I hated that section, not because of the trees but because of the annoying anxious music. Feels pretty out of place among the soundtrack.
I think I ran away from most of those fuckers and it taught me how to stutterstep to avoid them.

>>6916241
Why would they remake this game? The graphics are perfectly cartoonish and charming.
If they do remake any of them it should be Mother 1 since it's so shitty compared to EB and M3

>>6883368
I hope you get skinned alive nonce

>>6919238
sounds pretty gay to me, bruv.

>>6918534
Nah they are just scammers that got hands on a fan made project and are corrupting it to try to make cash. Probably owned by jews by now

>>6918258
I didn't mind the trees once I figured out their gimmick
These little fuckers however can fuck right off holy shit

>>6909084
Wild n' Wooly Shambler
Spinning Robo
all of the robots desu

>>6878450
Deep Darkness is the sickest place ever.

>>6878450
It was over half a decade I played it, but I remember really liking some specific parts.
>Drinking the tea or whatever and going on that drugtrip with the long text
>Paula's monologue when rescuing her
>The Andonuts' Lab music
>Magicant

Honestly, the game is a huge blur but I got so incredibly emotional when playing it. I said that it's one of those games/movies/books that are so good there's no need replaying them, but looks like I might have to.

>>6919734
you just reminded me of those things. fuck you.

i hated those fucking clocks.

>>6920818
The Dali Clocks? I didn't think they were too bad. When they do the time stop attack just don't press anything, more you press the more it hurts you.

>>6878450
Unrelated but like 1/4th of the Mother fanbase has actually played the games and the rest get all their knowledge from HVGN/AVGN/Did You Know Gaming/Undertale shit

>>6921589
id say nowadays its more 50% have played, 50% are smashfags.

>>6921589
Well I finished all three games so real fan hours I guess.

>>6921558

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uRheBiz13Y

>>6921620
>real fan hours
are you 15

>>6921714
The little versions of here were more of a pain than the boss. More and more just kept coming

>>6919734
>>6918258
I think these fucks and the guitar / records in the department store where you have to find Paula are the biggest dicks in the game and made me ragequit too many times.
thankfully got past them but holy shit were they annoying.

>>6909084
I think I got the biggest laugh from the New Aged hippie.
But I loved fighting the Diamond Dog the most, probably the best bossfight besides Porky

>>6922446
the diamond dog was fun as fuck, but i always headcannoned that it fucked the party up good since in my run i always got my ass handed to me. my headcannon was kind of helped when ness straight up passes out after the diamond dog's sanctuary.

>>6900889
What were the floppies supposed to be?

>>6923895
*foppies

>>6899747
When you think about it, a cage and a fence are the exact same thing and only us humans with our dumb monkey brains see them as being different

i love how other party members use unique and trippy PSI powers but jeff just uses a fucking glock.

>>6925256
More like pop/air guns that then transition into actual laser pistols.
Then all that shit just gets replaced with the Heavy Bazooka later.

>>6925279
im sure he used a 9mm at some point between then.

>>6923092
I always liked the moment I get Jeff to shoot a bottle rocket at the Carbon Dog, then it changed, made the reflect noise and then Jeff got instantly critically wounded. The collection of sounds always tickled me.

>>6925290
everyone always raves on about the bottle rockets, but i always had shit luck with them and most of the time the enemy i would use them on could just reflect it back to jeff somehow.

>>6925463
Jeff needs equipment that increases his speed overall if you even want to hit anything late game with bottle rockets. Like the Rabbit's Foot in the dungeon before the Lumine Hall.

>>6925568
I always leveled Jeff in moonside

>>6925256
Yeah it's more balanced in Mother 1 and 3 with only 2 PSI users.
Jeff is a fucking beast when you actually use all his items though. The HP-sucking machine is great.

>>6926561
I was actually pretty surprised to see how absolutely fucking useless bottle rockets were in Mother 1. Though at least the flamethrowers and the itemized PK Beams were a thing.

>>6926561
in my experience jeff had no trouble keeping up with the team as long as you kept his speed up. especially after you got that fucking bazooka.

>>6917584

post your idea for a fangame. no answer is too retarded.

whats the best romhack to make earthbound an actually challenging video game instead of just quirky and easy dragon quest

I wanna replay it but I dunno if I can force myself through that combat again

>>6927060
there was that indie remake thats being worked on. not sure if thats out yet though.

>>6927038
Same basic formula but you play as Pokey.

>>6927038
Play as a Rowdy Mouse that gets beat up hard by Ness and begins to build an army of minions Ness and his friends defeated to get revenge

>>6927060
There's the toby fox one. It ramps up difficulty above the original. Also perfect for Halloween.

Wish there were more holiday romhacks for games or just holiday theme games in general.

>>6927038
pokey makes good on his threat to come after ness and the rest of the gang have to use the phase distorter to find him.

>>6927361
halloween hack isn't really an earthbound romhack, its some embarassing fanfic that uses earthbound assets to tell its own little original story. I just want earthbound but without being bored out of my mind whenever combat happens

>>6927417
Be the change you want to see, anon
Make your own romhack and post it.

>>6927373
I see a problem with tonal whiplash
>pokey kidnapped ness to turn him into a chimera
>main party fuck around doing other things while trying to find him

>>6927259
This. Have it start off in Onett, then the Mani-Mani statue arc, then an arc where you're working for giygas, and end it with Pokey forming the pigmask army.

>>6927038
Paula impregnation simulator

>>6928081
>whether or not you get a good or bad ending can be based on how quick you get to him

>>6928275
Would be neat.

>>6925282
Jeff is a true man of culture, he uses a. 45

>>6929252
wtf Paula is a fucking destruction machine who can screenwipe more than half of encounters

>>6931263
tbf she does die a lot unless you grind her when you get her.

>>6930226
does jeff browse /k/?

ness.

is getting a new PSI move determined by a set level or is it randomized?

>>6933854
All PSI moves are learned at certain levels, though with Mother 1 it's hard to gauge it because it doesn't even tell you want you learned, just that you learned something.

>>6933885
Ah, I see.

>>6933885
I really like that Mother 3 slipped in real life wizard shit like having to have your chakras opened if you're dumb and getting a fever when you're reprogramming your neurons and transcending your previous self. Shit is white hot in the brain.

>>6935039
I love how the only way people in the Mother 3 universe can even gain PSI powers is to get felt up by campy crossdressers that are also gods.

>>6935076
I think they're not cross dressers but actually are androgynous, but instead of being neotonous and childlike they're all hairy and mature. I think the nonsexual massage that makes you have homofear is supposed to be a reference to Final Fantasy 7 but who knows for sure.

They make me laugh and the fact that they're actually called magypsies makes me laugh twice.

>>6935096
Totally they're one of my favorite parts of the game, though probably one of the main reasons why Nintendo never wanted to localize the game overseas.

>>6935076
Which is weird, because I always got the impression that PSI just spread randomly to people after George came back to earth. Hence why giegue was sent there.

>>6935586
Things like psychokinesis or telepathy are things that are actually studied in the real world, so I don't think it's exclusive to Gyiyg's race. It could be, however, the reason why Ninten got such powers himself.
I haven't played Mother 1 in a while, but I don't remember if it specifically refers to George stealing "PSI" from the aliens, or just technology in general (which would explain the creation of EVE, which can fight 1 on 1 against Gyiyg's most powerful robots)

>>6935586
Mother 3 doesn't take place in the same space-time as Mother 1 or 2, so in this world the Magypsies are the source of PSI.

>>6935610
in mother 1, the reason why giegue was sent to earth was because George nicked off with the secrets of PSI, and it started spreading to humans.
although, it has been a while since ive played so take this with a grain of salt.

>>6933885
>>6933854
I think mother 1 gives you psi moves at exp benchmarks, not levels

>>6935648
then how did they get it?

>>6927373
would pokey even really need to turn him into a chimera? hes already powerful enough as it is, so he could just brainwash him.

>>6937201
Knowing Porky he probably would have just made it so Ness's friends were never born and downloaded his current mind into his younger self's brain

>>6937261
can pokey actually do that without giygas though? all weve seen him do in 3 is go into the future.

>>6937261
also, did pokey even care about ness's friends? he seemed to be just obsessed with ness himself.

>>6937268
he went back to where Ness and his friends had to go back into time in robot bodies in his original body using a machine that probably did something terrible to his original body, then escapes from there in the same machine
>>6937275
he doesn't care about them, he would just erase them from history for convenience though

I mean he has no problem kidnapping Jeff's father/Jeff?

>>6937287
>he went back to where Ness and his friends had to go back into time in robot bodies in his original body using a machine that probably did something terrible to his original body
but thats the thing though, he had giygas do something to him that allowed him to time travel back. by the time we see him in 3, whatever giygas did to him seems to have worn off since his skin and hair arent a sickly grey color. could he even go back to the past in that state.
making ness's friends never be born also seems less convenient than just taking ness and fucking off since it would also mean that giygas wouldnt be killed.

>>6937310
when you see him in 3 he is exactly the same size and shape as whatever happened to him in 2

>>6937310
Also porky literally specifically states that travelling back in time either required or resulted in him having an "unchanging body" which is even more fucked up than becoming an android which would still be subject to entropy

>>6937315
hes the same size, but his skin and hair are normal compared to what they were in 2. and pokey's body couldnt have been that unchanging if he was an old man by the time of 3.

>>6937329
maybe that was just a tinted window anon

or maybe he's wearing make up or fake skin

>>6937424
im not sure, the way things looked it seemed like it was something giygas did.

>>6937463
I got the feeling that giygas was more of a deity than an emperor, as in, he didn't actually direct so much as demand things and strike fear and awe into his servants

porky probably just got fed through some alien machinery

>>6937473
i mean, giygas was less of an emperor and more of an entity that was made when giegue's trauma caused him to grow in power until his mind couldnt take it anymore. or something like that.
either way its safe to say he had some wack ass powers.

>>6880812
HNNNGGGGG

>>6880870
are cute.

would getting mushroomized be painful? it sounds like it would be.

>>6936590
Magic.

Were there any star men at all in 3?

>>6938482
>no, they were all gone or destroyed by that time

>>6937694
Based

>>6938482
because mother 3 isn't really a mother game

>>6938924
Yeah, there are points where it feels like that.

damn, I hate the two weeks autosage rule
goodbye thread

>>6939003
Yeah it sucks.

>>6939003
ill make another later

>>6939789