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>the single most critically acclaimed game on any Sega platform was made by Namco
How will segays ever cope?

>> No.6877619

...looks like they can't.

>> No.6877626

>>6877568
Dang bruh u destroyed then

>> No.6877632

still better than anything on psturd.

>> No.6877647

Nintendo pissed off Namco going into the SNES, so Namco threw a bunch of support to the Sega Genesis to spite Nintendo. Dreamcast might not have gotten a better-than-arcade-perfect port from Namco if Sega hadn't been able to gain third party trust as well as they did.

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6877654

>>6877632
ohohohohohohohoh
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ah ha... ah ha...
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
AHAHAHAHAHohhhhhh shit.....

>> No.6877658
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6877658

>>6877632
bfffftt HAHAHAHAHA

>> No.6877667

>>6877647
Seems like Namco wasn't so pissed with Nintendo after all, since they did Soul Calibur 2 on Gamecube with Link as an exclusive character.
I think what you're talking about is the early 5th gen days when Namco did some games for sony like Tekken and Ridge Racer (but then, Ridge Racer 64 happened too).
If anything, I think Namco strongly supporting Sega Dreamcast was more of a middle finger to Sony than anything else, but again, Namco did SC2 for PS2 as well, with also an exclusive character, heihachi.

>> No.6877668

>>6877647
Namcot didn't really hit their stride until PS1.

>> No.6877671

>>6877647
>pissed off
>gaynesis
Namco do big support for SNES because Sony.

>> No.6877680

>>6877667
>Namco
>strongly supporting Sega Dreamcast
It was literally just SoulCalibur, and that's probably because they didn't feel like waiting until the PS2. Keep in mind at this point Namco was basically a Sony second-party.

>> No.6877690

>>6877680
>It was literally just SoulCalibur,
Mr. Driller and Namco Museum too.

>> No.6877701

>>6877568
>gaming """""""journalism"""""""
lmao
Go back to your N64 circlejerk nincel

>> No.6877702

>>6877690
Nobody really talks about Mr. Driller, and Namco Museum was on everything.

>> No.6877713

>>6877654
>the worst version of SCII
lol

>> No.6877716

>>6877713
That's not the Xbox version

>> No.6877717

>>6877716
Xbox version looks way better and has a better guest character.

>> No.6877728

>>6877717
Only western comic book nerds give a nigger's ass about Spawn.
At least Heihachi is a badass dude from an actual video game, and an even better fighting series than SC.
Plus it has the best save icon of the three.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qvn9VN-7o0

>> No.6877743

>>6877728
Spawn is at least cooler than some old faggot who wore a diaper in Tekken 4. Plus Heihachi is the laziest inclusion possible, the other two were never in a fighting game before SCII but for Heihachi they could just port his moves over from Tekken. The series already had a Tekken character for fuck sake.

>> No.6877792

>>6877743
This is your mind on rosterfaggotry. Go back to playing Smash, I play real fighting games.

>> No.6877802

>>6877792
PS2 has the worst guest character and the worst visuals. Like with most multiplats on the console it is the worst version.

>> No.6877812

>>6877647
what the fuck namco games were on genesis besides splatterhouse and pac man

>> No.6877813

>>6877667
I wouldn't call SC1 being a Dreamcast exclusive a "middle finger" to Sony, especially when the entire rest of the main series appeared on Sony consoles, two of which were exclusive.

>> No.6877814

>>6877802
On a 480i CRT there's really not as much of a difference as your HRT-riddled brain thinks. Plus PS2 has the best save icon, this is a fact.

>> No.6877824

>>6877814
>On a 480i CRT there's really not as much of a difference
Yes there is. I've been seeing this sad excuse for a cope a lot recently when the PS2's visuals are criticized but it just isn't true.

>> No.6877832

>>6877824
>still deflecting the save icon
Also it is true. Maybe stop taking HRT?

>> No.6877836

>>6877812
rolling thunder sequels, nigga.

>> No.6877839

>>6877814

Ahaha, loser clings to a sinking ship.

>> No.6877846

>>6877832
Do you even own a CRT? Because the shimmering and aliasing endemic to the PS2's visuals are still plenty apparent on them.

>> No.6877852

>>6877846
>shimmering and aliasing
Let's not pretend this isn't a thing on other platforms. In 480i, every console does this.

>> No.6877854
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6877854

>>6877852
It isn't a thing on other platforms.

>> No.6877856

Post the Xbox SCII save icon or GTFO

>> No.6877861

>>6877728
xbox version does 720p

>> No.6877863

>>6877852
Here's the weakest 6th gen system beating the PS2 in graphics, loading time, while also having AA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaoWueD23N8

>> No.6877865
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6877865

>>6877854

>> No.6877869

>>6877854
>look ma I posted it again?
Good job, now post Xbox on a-- and this is important-- on a 480i CRT. I'm waiting. Get that phone camera out.

>> No.6877873

>>6877854
>>6877865
Can't say I care for this low effort console war faggotry, at least use your recording to demonstrate the higher fidelity models and cool shader effects the Xbox has, waverace faggot.

>> No.6877874

>>6877863
If you think Test Drive Le Mans Dreamcast looks better than Gran Turismo 4, you have brain damage.

>> No.6877878

>>6877863
>a game purpose built for DC looks marginally better on DC
Nice strawman nigger, water is wet, more news at 11
And the lighting on the car is still better on the PS2.

>> No.6877883

>>6877865
I still see shimmering at the bottom faglord. Now again, post both versions running off a 480i CRT or fuck off.

>> No.6877886

>>6877658
>Tekken Tag Tournament
Using two characters in a fighting game instead of one is the stupidest idea ever.

>> No.6877891

>>6877886
You have never played the game.

>> No.6877903

>>6877874
Neither here nor there, we're doing an objective comparison.

>>6877878
No, the lighting is worse, you probably think the PS2 looks better because it lacks reflections. The PS2 version lacks a lot of other things, too. This isn't a cherrypick, this is how bad the PS2 typically did in multiplats.

>>6877883
Not the guy you're talking to, but both of those webms are clearly 480i. The waterline is clearly showing artifacts from interlacing. Go find your own CRT if that matters so much, faggot.

>> No.6877942

>>6877869
No I'm not going to do that because a CRT recorded with a fucking phone camera is a much worse representation of what a game looks like than direct capture. If you can see shimmering out the ass in a 480i recording you can sure as shit see it on a CRT.

>> No.6877951

>the CRT makes all video games look the same!

>> No.6877958

>>6877903
>No, the lighting is worse, you probably think the PS2 looks better because it lacks reflections.
No, I think the PS2 looks better because the car's ass is not right in your face and it has more complex shading on the car instead of looking like fucking glass. Literally just look at the thumbnail, the car's contours are much more visible on the PS2 whereas on the memecast it's pretty much the same, blindingly white reflection across the entire hood.
However, this game is shovelware by PS2 standards and the fact that it's among the best of its kind on the Dreamcast speaks magnitudes to how mediocre that console truly is. Thus, none of this shit really doesn't matter
>This isn't a cherrypick, this is how bad the PS2 typically did in multiplats.
>>a game purpose built for DC looks marginally better on DC
It is a cherrypick, and a strawman too.
Besides, the Dreamcast typically did worse in multiplats by virtue of not having them.

>> No.6877962

>>6877951
There are people that really believe this shit. They genuinely think the PS2's shimmering and aliasing is smoothed over in composite video or even more ridiculously by some sort of magic when using S-video or component/RGB.

>> No.6877965

>>6877958
>and it has more complex shading on the car
LOL no it doesn't, the only difference between the cars is one has reflections.
>However, this game is shovelware by PS2 standards
So it's pretty high praise by PS2 standards, gotcha. By the way nice dodge, I'm sure everyone will suddenly forget that even the DC could produce better image quality by default than the PS2, let alone the other consoles vs the PS2.

The game isn't "purpose built" for the PS2, by the way, it's a multiplat.
>Besides, the Dreamcast typically did worse in multiplats by virtue of not having them.
SEETHE

The only take away from this is that the PS2 has abysmal image quality.

>> No.6877967

>>6877962
Sad how Shenmue on the Sega Memecast has these same problems, but worse, on a 480i SD CRT.
Source: played the game like this for the past week.

>> No.6877971

>>6877965
>The game isn't "purpose built" for the PS2, by the way, it's a multiplat.
>tranny can't even read my post properly
Into the trash your post goes.

>> No.6877973

>>6877967
>with no other options left the Sony fanboy simply deflects with pure whataboutism
At least the Dreamcast can output a clean looking video and in 480p VGA. If only the PS2 could output such nice looking video.

>> No.6877974

Can someone explain why shimmering is a bad thing? I really don't get it. And why do people pretend only the PS2 has this problem?

>> No.6877978

>>6877974
>Can someone explain why shimmering is a bad thing?
It looks like shit.
>And why do people pretend only the PS2 has this problem?
Because only on PS2 is it such a problem.

>> No.6877979
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6877979

>>6877973
>If only the PS2 could output such nice looking video.
You called?

>> No.6877981

>>6877971

You're mad, it's a multiplat.

btw all everyone can think about is STILL that the PS2 has shit image quality.

>> No.6877985

>>6877979
Not him but if you are refering to 1080i, don't bother. I took a capture of GT4's 1080i before and it's garbage mess image quality internally. There's a reason why the PS2 could even "pull it off".

>> No.6877987

>>6877979
https://youtu.be/q53VTuKlnBw?t=96
Some of the most aliased visuals you will ever see in a video game.

>> No.6877989

>>6877974

The PS2 had far worse texture filtering than other systems until, like, 2005, and even then it was mostly because of the fact that the PS2 versions of multiplats were given far more funding than other versions in order to optimize things. If you just commit to funding each system evenly then the PS2 would always have these problems.

That's what you're looking at here, btw, there's literally no texture filtering. >>6877854

>> No.6877992

>>6877978
>>Because only on PS2 is it such a problem.
Look at 10 seconds of anything in this video, and then end your life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXAubpOY7Bs

>> No.6877998

>>6877854
soul
>>6877865
soulless

>> No.6878001

>>6877992

The video you just posted features texture filtering, which this video here lacks. >>6877854

>> No.6878002

>>6877865
In the Xbox version it looks like an N64 smear to be desu

>> No.6878003

>>6877992
I've seen worse, like every game released on PS2.

>> No.6878005

>>6878001
>The video you just posted features texture filtering, which this video here lacks. >>6877854
That's even worse then, retard. Even with texture filtering, shitmue still has that much shimmering and those many jaggies. Just think about that before the cyanide kicks in.

>> No.6878009

>>6878003
*laughs in Tekken Tag*

>> No.6878012

>>6878009
That game shows the compromise required for less aliasing and shimmering on PS2, blurrier visuals than N64.

>> No.6878017

>>6878005
>That's even worse then, retard.
AHAHAHAHA

No, there's no ridiculous banding in the Shenmue video. It looks considerably better than the PS2 game. DC had much better image quality than the PS2 in general, just like the other two systems.

>> No.6878018

>>6878012
>blurrier visuals than N64
You need a vision check

>> No.6878020

I haven't seen PS2 fanboys blown out this hard in a long time. He's frothing.

>> No.6878023

>>6877854
>>6877865
>>6877989
>>6878001
>>6878005
You guys realize it's called mipmapping, has nothing to do with texture filtering right? Both PS2 and Xbox have texture filtering., but PS2 doesn't use mipmapping (like Dreamcast) for lower video memory usage

>> No.6878026

He's a samefag.

>> No.6878032

>>6878023

Incorrect, that's texture filtering. Mipmapping is the practice of replacing an asset entirely with a different asset based on draw distance.

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6878043

>>6878018
No u.

>> No.6878048

>>6878017
>Wow, those vertical bands on the buildings, telephone wires and the furniture in Ryo's house are totally not banding and shimmering!
You should be dead by now. Why haven't you killed yourself yet?

>> No.6878049

>>6878032
You mean LOD? Mipmapping using extra video memory to have multiple versions of the same texture but at different sizes to help reduce the shimmering

>> No.6878050

>>6878043
looks great on my CRT

>> No.6878052

>>6878050
It looks blurry as shit, your CRT isn't magic.

>> No.6878058

>>6878052
It still looks better than most Dreamcast games.

>> No.6878060

>>6878058
No it doesn't. Most Dreamcast games can display in 480p VGA in crystal clear quality with good AA.

>> No.6878063

>>6878048

LMAO no they aren't, retard, those are aliasing. Nobody ever said Shenmue had AA enabled. You have zero understanding of the subject. There's probably like 5 3D games on PS2 with AA, btw, so don't try to go there, either.

>>6878049

Anon, texture mipmaps have to be processed through texture filtering. Yes the xbox version also features mipmaps, but more importantly it features texture filitering and the PS2 video does not. Look at the dirt path on the PS2 video, there's no texture filtering.

>> No.6878068

>>6877891
Yes I have.

>> No.6878108
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6878108

>dreamtrannies unironically think that image quality=graphics
Too bad that the particle effects, lighting effects, and polygons themselves don't blow PS2 out of the water.
Please find me a racing game on Dreamcast that looks as good as Ridge Racer V, a JAPANESE PS2 launch title.
Zone of the Enders has no competition on memecast, neither does Armored Core 2.
Eternal Ring looks better than Maken X.
Dark Cloud assrapes Timestalkers.
etc. etc. etc.
And the funniest thing is those aren't even from the legendary Fall 2001 PS2 lineup. By then it wasn't even up to debate that the PS2 was more powerful.
For example, FFX rapes the everloving shit out of Skies of Arcadia in every single department. Silent Hill 2 has no equal on the little white clam, and the first Devil May Cry looks better than any single memecast game, let alone any of that PS1 ripoff's hack-and-slashes. Take fucking Sword of the Berserk out of your reply box, it's objectively worse-looking in every way.

>> No.6878114

>thread about shitting on dreamcast
>turn around into shitting on PlayStation
Segachads...I kneel

>> No.6878118

How and why did my Namco>Sega thread turn into an anti-PS2 circlejerk?

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6878120

>>6878114
falseflagger

>> No.6878123

>>6878108
>Ridge Racer V and Armored Core 2
Some of the most aliasing and interlaced video oddities you'll ever see in games. Seriously when the game slows down during explosions in Armored Core 2 it looks like the image is jittering out of control and becoming blurry at the same time. I've never seen another platform do shit like that. It happens in Evergrace too.

>> No.6878125

>>6878120
I just got here fag

>> No.6878129

>>6878125
and you can still falseflag.

>> No.6878130

>same obsessed retard seething about Sega again

>> No.6878134

My thread was about Namco being better than Sega. Why did it turn into a console war?

>> No.6878137

>>6878134
The resident Sony knobslobber showed up.

>> No.6878138

>>6878123
Again, stop attacking the image quality and address the poly counts and lighting effects. There is no equivalent on Dreamcast.

>> No.6878141

>>6878138
>s-stop attacking the PS2's shitty image quality!
Never.

>> No.6878142

>>6877861
xbox version lacks a cute save icon

>> No.6878146

>>6878141
Nice deflecting. Now find me a Dreamcast racer with as good of lighting on the cars as Ridge Racer V.
...oh you can't, can you?

>> No.6878157

>>6878134
Namcofags are usually also Sonyfags, so put 2 and 2 together.

>> No.6878159

>>6878146
Can you show me a PS2 game that isn't either aliased to shit or a glaucoma simulator?

>> No.6878163

>>6878159
So are you conceding?
Thanks I guess?

>> No.6878167

>>6878163
The PS2 is truly the master of shitty image quality.

>> No.6878174 [DELETED] 

>Sony can't even produce a system with better image quality 2 years later
>1 year later Microsoft releases Xbox which shits on PS2 in every way possible
So much for that meme emotion engine. Oh sorry I mean I mean top secret pentagon black ops R&D lmao

>> No.6878180

>Sony can't even produce a system with better image quality 2 years later
>1 year later Microsoft releases Xbox which shits on PS2 in every way possible
So much for that meme emotion engine. Oh sorry I meant top secret pentagon black ops R&D lmao

>> No.6878183

Let's settle this once and for all. Judging based off lighting/shading effects, particle effects, and polygon counts, compare:
>Silent Hill 2 vs Code Veronica
>FFX vs Skies of Arcadia
>Devil May Cry vs. Sword of the Berserk
>Sega GT vs Gran Turismo 3
>Ridge Racer V vs Metropolis Street Racer
>Zone of the Enders and Armored Core 2 vs Oratorio Tangram
>Dark Cloud vs TimeStalkers
GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO

>> No.6878185

>>6878180
Oh yes because the Xbox sold so well, those exclusive are total classics right?

>> No.6878186
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6878186

>>6878174
>>6878180
hahahahahahahahaha doubleposter hahahahahahahaahahaha

>> No.6878198

>>6878185
>those exclusive are total classics right?
Better than PS2 exclusives.

>> No.6878204

>muh graphics is better than ur graphics
we really have become /v/, haven't we?
adding 6th gen was a fucking mistake.

>> No.6878207

>>6878108

It's funny how you got thrashed for hours in this thread and then tried to pretend that image quality doesn't matter all of the sudden when even your dipshit brain could no longer defend it.

PS2 has shit image quality. Even taking your bullshit argument that suddenly image quality doesn't matter, why does the DC have better image quality than the more powerful PS2? Why do the other systems have better image quality, on top of that?

>> No.6878212

>>6878204

Get out. Console wars have always existed on /vr/.

This thread is one guy being outed, nothing more and nothing less. This is what a GOOD board does.

>> No.6878217

>>6878207
>>6878212
There's no thrashing or outing here, niggerhead. There's just a bunch of segacucks deflecting because they know that when they get into the shit that isn't mitigated by a 480i CRT that people back in the day, they're gonna lose to the PS2. Now go, and find me a single Dreamcast game that looks and plays as good as Devil May Cry. Protip: you fucking cannot.

>> No.6878226

>>6878207
>why does the DC have better image quality than the more powerful PS2?
Because that's one of three advantages it has, the other two being better aliasing and texture quality. It is thoroughly destroyed in every other category. Don't believe me? Compare the games I listed and see for yourself.

>> No.6878229

>>6878217
>deflecting
You're the only one doing this. PS2 has shit image quality, despite being such a supposedly superior system, CRT does nothing as already discussed. Keep crying about polygon count since you lost the argument that actually pertains to the thread.

>> No.6878231

>>6878217
*that people back in the day actually played these systems on

>> No.6878232

>>6878217
>mitigated by a 480i CRT
False.

>> No.6878240

>>6878232
Must say I agree, it is a very defining PS2 trait.

>> No.6878242

>>6878229
The argument that actually pertains to the thread is that Namco is better than Sega. You seganiggers have derailed my thread and are now having an anti-PS2 circlejerk. Get the fuck out of my thread unless you're trying to compare Virtua Fighter to SoulCalibur.

>> No.6878248

>>6878242

Nope, it's a thread where a crybaby tried to claim the PS2 version of SC2 has good image quality and he got destroyed LMAOOOOOO

>> No.6878249

>>6878242
I can't believe somebody would derail this completely normal and not at all inflammatory thread.

>> No.6878251

>>6878248
>LMAOOOOOO
you need to go back nigger.

>> No.6878258

>>6878248
Also that is entirely false. I never said PS2 had great image quality, I only said it's not as bad as it's memed up to be, which is true.
Also you still haven't posted the Xbox version's save icon. Don't reply until you have.

>> No.6878259

>>6878251
I'll go back to the systems that can display graphics correctly without needing an intentionally shitty CRT to try to scrub all the shitty aliasing and bars out LMAOOOOO

>> No.6878262

>>6878258
No you lied and said CRT magic would prevent the PS2's abysmal shimmering and aliasing from being seen.

>> No.6878294

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLS2H-yp5r0
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_SWne_SQ88

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avCWC0DVjE
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3xQ84deb_0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEmTtuqgya4
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OTEIvHthjE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPJIB8o6CKM
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjXRRZKyZ54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uHwCtGKmxo
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Vi5KKWRCt0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT1dAjQ2Fmc
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqKHCFTrV40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1pI59MQLU
VS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwaEjaUeh1U

Lighting/shading effects, polycounts, particle effects, framerate. Compare em.
I'll accept your concession, dreamcucks.

>> No.6878296

>>6878259
>shitting on CRT
Go back to your LCD monitor zoomnigger.

>> No.6878303

>>6878294
We get it, the PS2 has shimmering and aliasing out the ass despite being released two years after the Dreamcast.

>> No.6878308

>>6878296
>strawman
Oh so when you bring up the idea of a shitty CRT it's okay, when someone points out that you did it then their screen at home is shit.

>> No.6878314

>>6878303
>not lighting/shading effects
>not polycounts
>not particle effects
>not framerate
I will disregard your posts until I see comparisons on these grounds.

>> No.6878315

>>6878314
I'd hope that PS2 can do those better than a console released two years prior. The real question is why is it so shitty it can't even output a clean image?

>> No.6878318

>>6878315
Because Sony spent the money bribing tech magazines to print articles how the hardware is a top secret black ops.

>> No.6878327

>>6878315
>why is it so shitty it can't even output a clean image?
Because that's one of its few flaws. Even Achilles had a heel.

>> No.6878340

>>6878327
Having the worst version of every multiplat is another huge flaw.

>> No.6878346

>>6878340

Including multiplats with the DC, the weaker system.

>> No.6878395

>>6878340
Untrue. Multiplats often had added content to compensate for whatever graphical downgrades. Often had better multiplats than Gamecube purely based off this.

>> No.6878398

>>6878395
>Multiplats often had added content to compensate for whatever graphical downgrades
Literally just one time with RE4 and even that content was ported to literally every other version after making it completely pointless.

>> No.6878403

>>6878262
I don't see the SC2 Xbox save icon. I won't acknowledge your post until I see it.

>> No.6878412

>>6878398

Also the PS2 version of RE4 is still the worst version because the worse AI and because the game sounds like everything is underwater.

>> No.6878420

>>6878398
Viewtiful Joe 1 had Dante on PS2.
Gamecube ports of non-PSO games lacked online.
Need for Speed Most Wanted and other games had music cut to fit on GCN miniDVDs.
Ecco and Code Veronica got extra content on PS2, Maken X became a completely different game.
Smuggler's Run Warzones on Gamecube only has automatic shifting due to the controller's lack of buttons.
DOA2 Hardcore has more content than any of the Dreamcast versions.
etc.

>> No.6878431

>>6878420
So nothing? PS2 online was a joke, by the way.

>> No.6878436

>>6878420
>Gamecube ports of non-PSO games lacked online.
>Need for Speed Most Wanted and other games had music cut to fit on GCN miniDVDs.
>Smuggler's Run Warzones on Gamecube only has automatic shifting due to the controller's lack of buttons.
>Maken X became a completely different game.
None of these are exclusive content for the PS2. Also Code Veronica X was released on Gamecube as well, the best version is still on Dreamcast but the game kind of sucks no matter what.

>> No.6878448

>>6878436
But they're lacking on GCN, meaning that the PS2 doesn't have the worst multiplats but rather the Gamecube does. Especially nowadays when the cube versions cost at least 2x more, if you play physical.

>> No.6878452

>>6878436
And Maken Shao being different from Maken X is indeed exclusive, as the game was never ported again.

>> No.6878453

>>6878431
>he proved me wrong! quick, let me write it off as much as I can!
Damage control.

>> No.6878457

>>6878448
Considering the online for PS2 games doesn't work and the few that do have workarounds nobody plays, that aspect of multiplats is completely irrelevant. The Gamecube doesn't have the same kind of shimmering and aliasing present in PS2 games, usually has a better framerate too. Obviously the best version is always on Xbox, how sad it must be to fight so hard for second place.

>> No.6878470

>>6878457
>Considering the online for PS2 games doesn't work and the few that do have workarounds nobody plays, that aspect of multiplats is completely irrelevant.
Nice damage control, but that doesn't change the Gamecube versions never having online in the first place, making them the worst at the time as well.

>> No.6878473

>>6878457
>Obviously the best version is always on Xbox
*laughs in Substance, Curse of Darkness and Hot Pursuit 2*

>> No.6878474

>>6878470
That's not damage control that's just reality. PS2's online functions are nonfunctional for the majority of titles and even if they are nobody is playing them.

>> No.6878480

>>6878474
And Gamecube online functions for the same games were never functional because they never had them. This meant that some games like Big Red One had no multiplayer on Gamecube at all.

>> No.6878482

>>6878480
The horror.

>> No.6878484

>>6877654
>is better on gamecube

>> No.6878486

>>6878453

Yes you were proven wrong and you've spent hours on damage control.

It's really sad that you're screeching so badly for ground that you're trying to boast about PS2 online of all things. It was garbage.

>> No.6878507

>>6878486
Not boasting. I don't give a nigger's ass about online that I never use. It just proves wrong the claim that PS2 had the worst multiplats because even something as small as online is additional content, and additional content trumps all. Why would you pay the same retail price when the game was new, and twice as much in 2020 thanks to coomlectors, for the Gamecube version that has less content and very marginally better graphics? Especially when the Xbox version is better looking than both with the most/best additional content?

>> No.6878510

>>6878507
>something as small as online is additional content, and additional content trumps all
Gigacope and for second place in a decades old consolewar. The PS2 fuckin sucks.

>> No.6878520
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6878520

>>6878510
Second place isn't fourth place though. Thanks for conceding!

>> No.6878527

>>6878520
PS2 isn't second place though, the online sucked then and doesn't even exist now. You've gone from denying the shitty video quality to desperately clinging to the completely nonfunctioning online as a means of defending the Playstation 2 from being the absolute worst way to play multiplat titles. What is wrong with Sony fanboys?

>> No.6878535

>absolute worst way to play multiplat titles.
It could be worse. You could have a tiny-ass d-pad; 4 less inputs; and get cucked out of online, other extra content, and even music, among other things, due to the microscopic size of your discs.

>> No.6878538

So is Namco better than Sega or what? I think SoulCalibur speaks for itself. How humiliating for Sega to be cucked on their own system by one of their biggest rivals.

>> No.6878543

>>6878535
Nothing is worse than the poorstation 2 version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dprRrMUz6n0

>> No.6878545

>>6877985
>There's a reason why the PS2 could even "pull it off".
Which was?

>> No.6878546

>>6877987
Not even memeing, this seriously looks borderline Xbox 360 apart from the aliasing.

>> No.6878558

>>6878543
Gamecube has no online, that's a death sentence for an FPS.

>> No.6878560

>>6878543
https://www.ign.com/articles/2005/03/29/timesplitters-future-perfect-head-to-head
You're objectively wrong. Read.

>> No.6878563

>>6878538
Based. Scotformers aside, Namco does every single thing better than Sega, and I do mean EVERY single thing. Except being bad, Sega is much better at being bad than Namco.

>> No.6878565

>>6878563
this but 100% unironically

>> No.6878570

>>6878340
>he doesn't know about the shitcube ports of Tom Clancy games

>> No.6878585

>>6877981
It was originally a PS1 game. The 6th-gen version came out for Dreamcast first, the PS2 was a port of that. Mail yourself a bomb tranny.

>> No.6878592

>>6878180
>in every way possible
except fillrate. Enjoy your cucked "fog" in Silent Hill 2, microppsofts.

>> No.6878594

>>6878240
What is?

>> No.6878629
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>>6878114
It was never shitting on Dreamcast, but shitting on Sega. But Sega niggers (and that's what they are, they are niggers) always have to make it about le Sony bogeymin every time their precious little pile of shit company gets made fun of.
Because their tiny, söy-infused brains can't possibly conceive of any other company's fans thinking their little commercial failures are the rightfully failed pieces of fucking dogshit that they are. What fucking pathetic subhuman dicksuckers. Pic related is EVERY segautist.

>> No.6878647

>>6878484
>muh twink elf fuckboi

>> No.6878906
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>>6878563
Complete utter nonsense Sega does better light gun shooters,beat em ups,arcade racers,mecha games,rail shooters and arcade sports games

>> No.6878919

>>6878906
>light gun shooters
*laughs in Time Crisis*
>beat-em-ups
*giggles in Tekken Force and Splatterhouse*
>arcade racers
*fucking passes out from guffawing in Ridge Racer*
>mech games
Namco now owns Gundam.
>rail shooters
Namco developed a Star Fox game.
>arcade sportsball
Who gives a nigger's ass?

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>>6878629
Meanwhile the one Namco tranny in existence. Get on that treadmill you fat bloated sack of shit.

>> No.6878928
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>>6878923
Nice selfie. Here's mine.

>> No.6878954

>>6878919
>laughs in Time Crisis
Discount VirtuaCop, come back when Namco produces anything as good as House of the dead series or Gunblade NY inb4 discount Hotd vampire night
>*giggles in Tekken Force and Splatterhouse
Spikeout,DieHard arcade and Zombies revenge shit all over those you don't have a clue
>*fucking passes out from guffawing in Ridge Racer*
Still not as good as Sega Rally and OutRun 2DX
>Namco now owns Gundam
Yeah and the only good Gundam games were made by Capcom and Bandai before Namco had anything to do with them.
>Namco developed a Star Fox game
Yeah and its shit incomparison to After Burner Climax and Panzer Dragoon.
>Who gives a nigger's ass?
Spotted the fatty who got picked last during gym class.

>> No.6878969

>>6877886
Nice cope.

>> No.6878978

>>6878928
That actually looks disgusting. Also why is your zip open.

>> No.6878979
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6878979

>>6878954
>Discount VirtuaCop, come back when Namco produces anything as good as House of the dead series or Gunblade NY inb4 discount Hotd vampire night
Just because Sega did it first didn't mean it was better.
>Still not as good as Sega Rally and OutRun 2DX
Blatantly false.
>Yeah and its shit incomparison to After Burner Climax and Panzer Dragoon.
But Star Fox is better than either of those.
>Spotted the fatty who got picked last during gym class.
Bold words when most sega suckers look like pic related

>> No.6879004 [DELETED] 

FUCK THE MEMECAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4

>> No.6879012

FUCK THE MEMECAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaBGB5SErt4

>> No.6879167

>>6877667
>implying one of the biggest devs/pubs hate any system.
They just (rightly) didn't liked Nintendo's bullshit policy of just a few games a year per publisher in the Nes days and the policy of a same named game not bein allowed on non-Nintendo systems

>> No.6879251

>>6878979
>But Star Fox is better than either of those.
quiet furfag

>> No.6880217

Impressive how despite the Dreamcast being a failed console, it still manages to live rent free in some people's heads. lmao

>> No.6880249

>178 posts
>21 IPs
Holy shit the absolute state of this guy.
Sega mindbroke him.

>> No.6880257

>>6880249
It's always the same guy. You can see that these threads always has an autist mentioning "HRT". It's just sad.

>> No.6880264

>>6880249
Like the other guy said it's always one very autistic sonypony who can't handle criticism.

>> No.6880318

>Chadcast only lives for 2 and a half years
>manages to have a better library than the other 6th gen systems that lived for 5+
How did Sega do it, bros?

>> No.6880331

>>6877568
>>the single most critically acclaimed game on any Sega platform was made by Namco
not sure whats the problem with you. But there are plenty of outstanding games on dreamcast.

Power Stone 1 & 2
Virtua Fighter 3 tb
heavy metal geomatrix
Illbleed
D2

>> No.6880541

>>6880249
Holy shit, the absolute state of the samefag who thinks he did something
>>6880257
???

>> No.6880561

>>6880257
This is your brain on schizophrenia and HRT.

>> No.6880641

>>6880541
>>6880561
>number of IPs didn't change
Who are yoy trying to fool here?

>> No.6880647

>>6880318
NAOMI lived for 20 years or something ridiculous.

>> No.6880662
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6880662

Sophitia

>> No.6880673

>>6880641
Take your meds bro

>> No.6880683

>>6880673
>"t-take your meds"

>> No.6880685
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6880685

>>6880662
Seong Mina and Xianghua

>> No.6880692
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6880692

>>6880683
Yes. You need to. Now open up.

>> No.6880698

>>6880683
>|["using more than 1 quote symbol"]
Looks like you might actually need some.

>> No.6880717

>>6880692
>>6880698
>IPs still didn't change

>> No.6880757
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6880757

>> No.6880765
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6880765

OHNONONONO, LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD!

>> No.6880771

>>6877568
This was pure gold and totally stunning when we did play it for the first time. It was actually surreal good. The visuals where so gorgeous and the gameplay fast. Still hold it dear to my heart.

>> No.6880776

>>6880717
Because I posted already here >>6880662
What's wrong with you?

>> No.6880781

>>6880776
Oh, then fuck off

>> No.6880783

>>6880781
What site do you think this is? No.

>> No.6880794 [DELETED] 

>>6880783
Nigger
>>6880757
>>6880765
>mobile posting
lel

>> No.6880802
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6880802

>>6880794
???

>> No.6880814

>>6880802
I see what you did with the Sophitia post, but it didn't work, sorry

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>>6880814

>> No.6880829

>>6880825
See? You posted it again. Same image from a previous thread.

>> No.6880856

>>6880814
That was me, I think she's cute and I think outsiders who post on boards before lurking should be mocked. I mean how retarded do you even have to be to make a mistake like that.

>> No.6880858
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6880858

>>6880829
>See? You posted it again. Same image from a previous thread.

>> No.6880859

>>6880856
Yes, that's what I said, I saw what you did there. Anyway, next time try using "basedga" or any s0ý related wojaks instead of HRT, it'll make people think you're not just a schizo.

>> No.6880864

>>6880859
>instead of making on topic posts how about shitposting
This is why people don't like you. Please go back to whatever site you came from.

>> No.6880867

>>6880864
>s-stop shitposting
You first, nigger

>> No.6880873

>>6877568
when I was a kid I thought namco was based in vietnam because of the name

>> No.6880910
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6880910

>>6877568
>See Soul Calibur thread
>It's mostly console-warring and just general trash
Anyway, I liked it, just wish it had the more traditional weapon select from other games than just "Normal/Alt/Weapon Master"

>> No.6880921

>>6880910
Don't know who you think you're fooling I know it's you.

>> No.6880924

>>6880921
Wtf, that wasn't me

>> No.6880948

>>6880924
>all of the sudden a new IP after I called you out
Nice try phone poster

>> No.6880952

>>6880948
Oh no, you found me
wanna be frens now?

>> No.6880965

>>6880952
Why so you can spam "take your meds" at me? No thanks
Thanks for admitting it was you the whole time though

>> No.6880967

>>6880965
>Why so you can spam "take your meds" at me?
Yes!

>> No.6880989

>>6880948
>>6880921
Look here wacko the only post I made in this thread is this one >>6880910

>> No.6880994

>>6880989
Relax, he is just pulling my leg now

>> No.6881001

The only one samefagging is OP.

>> No.6881014

>>6880994
Why do you think that's a joke? Read the thread. Most of the posts aren't even talking about the game.

>> No.6881017

You need to take your meds.

>> No.6881034

>>6881014
>Most of the posts aren't even talking about the game.
That's /vr/ to you. Console wars for over 30 years

>> No.6881041

>>6880829
>Same image from a previous thread.
Actual mental illness if you retained this.

>> No.6881045

>>6878340
>wasting your PS2's laser on games not purpose made for it
Shiggy diggy

>> No.6881048

>>6880318
>better library
c'mon now, I like the other systems a lot but the PS2 alone has hundreds of different kind of games

>> No.6881053

>>6878398
But of the retro versions, it is better because of this.

>> No.6881065

>>6881053
Significantly better game overall > small additions you'll play once

>> No.6881071

>>6878482
Yes, imagine paying the exact same amount in 2005 for less content.

>> No.6881085

>>6881065
>better graphics > more content for half the cost
Faggotry.

>> No.6881089

>>6881085
Better graphics and sound is better than some side mode you'll play once and a new costume/weapon. The PS2 version of RE4 uses FMVs for cutscenes for fuck sake. Just a terrible version of the game.

>> No.6881204

>>6881089
>Just a terrible version of the game.
Not as far as critics and sales figures are concerned.
Honestly, it's amazing RE4 on PS2 turned out as great as it did in spite of Mikami's documented hateboner for the system.

>> No.6881275

>>6880647
Yeah but only a handful of NA@MI games got ported to the DC. If Sega ever releases a DC Mini they should work on porting some of them to it (looking at you, Monkey Ball).

>> No.6881454

>>6881275
Then it would be a NAOMI classic, not a DC classic.

>> No.6882275

Based. Sega sucks.

>> No.6882283

Cringe. Namco sucks.

>> No.6882309

Based. Namco rocks.

>> No.6882330

>>6881454
Same shit retard.

>> No.6882354

>>6882330
And that's exactly the memecast's problem.
It wasn't even cutting edge. It was literally already existing arcade hardware in a box.
Compare that to the PS2 and Gamecube which were actually completely original and blew away everything released before, including the little white clam.

>> No.6882394

>>6882354
Gamecube was so successful it on clearance 2 years after release. I got a new system for the price of 2 games.

>> No.6882396

>>6877619
People not replying to you usually means you're just dumb not that you're right

>> No.6882403

Cringe. Sega rocks.

>> No.6882406

>>6882354
Imagine being this underage.

>> No.6882408

*sucks

>> No.6882414

6882396
>241 replies in
Boy, aren't you late to the party?

>> No.6882417

>>6882406
>Imagine being this based.
I know right? It's great to be me.

>> No.6882428

Everyone is laughing at you OP.

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6882482

>Everyone is laughing at you OP.

>> No.6884721

>>6878108
Metal gear solid 2 and 3 look bretty good too

>> No.6884757

>>6878457
the need for speed ports on the cube are shit tho, very lazy ports

>> No.6884767

>>6878108
Yeah ridge racer wuz a fine game I member I brought it in an instant after I played the demo.

>> No.6884775

>>6878543
woah, xbox kicks the shit out of the other 2 versions

>> No.6884929

>>6877568
I thought this thread had 200+ replies and stayed up for 2 days because people really liked this game. Guess that was wishful thinking on my part. lul
I liked the character designs for Soul Calibur 1 and 2. 3's and onwards were just meh. Also, weird that everyone kinda seems to pretend Soul Blade doesn't exist. I have it and thought it was a pretty good game.

>> No.6885167

>>6884929
had alot of fun playing SC1 and 2 with my friend back in the day, sad that gen 6 discussion is so hard to discuss on this board without people raging about hardware and attacking each other