/vr/ - Retro Games

The non meme answer is actually Saturn, the Playstation version uses a really bad soundfont.

>>6880359
The Japanese version.

>>6880359
I'm torn which version of Lunar 2 to play.
I played Saturn's original, but there's no english hack for second one and playing on PSX is just, you know...
And I fear that going back to SCD version will feel like too much of downgrade and will spoil the game.

Ps1/Saturn for Silver Star.
Sega CD for Eternal Blue.

Sega CD for the soul designs localization

The one with the ecchi pictures

>>6880564
Which one? Saturn?

>>6880703
First game is lewd. Whatever version.

>>6880723
how?

>>6880372
whats wrong with it?

>>6880993

>>6880372
The non-meme answer has always been the original Sega CD version, but yes, if you want to try the 32-bit remake, go for Saturn.

>>6880703
The collectible bromides and female bath scene.


I play the ps1 versions. They emulate perfectly. Sega CD was my first experience with lunar tho. Like 25-26 years ago...yikes. I haven't played the Sega CD versions in many years. If course the gba and psp versions are weak.

>>6880359
Sega CD hands down.

>>6880372
The remakes for both Saturn and PS are inferior to the originals. Silver Star doesn't suffer as badly but Eternal Blue is night and day.

>>6880412
Sega CD version of Lunar 2 has more animations (doors on Sega CD animate while opening, remake the door sprite just disappears etc) and music tracks, certain sections were completely reworked and so much worse.

Illusion Woods is a great example. Sega CD version it's a forest of huge trees with hidden passages in the trunks that lead to underground tunnels.

>>6881231
In the remake that area is just a lazy hedge maze with some bushes you move out of the way. This example stands out but the whole game is like that. Towns like Raculi late in the game that had their own interesting aesthetics got reworked to just re-use assets from earlier towns.

I still don't know if something happened to GameArts in between versions or if it's because they farmed out part of the development to another studio but the result was an incredible let down.

>>6881094
I agree with this for Eternal Blue because the original is excellent and the remake doesn't improve anything (and actually makes some things worse) but the original Silver Star is pretty rough around the edges.

>>6881262
>but the original Silver Star is pretty rough around the edges.
In what sense? I like how it plays actually faster than the 32-bit remake, and also sprite-based cutscenes have more soul than FMV ones. I like the music on Sega CD better, too.

>>6880412
>but there's no english hack for second one and playing on PSX is just, you know...

Other than the audio fidelity, what does the PS1 screw up?

>>6881267
Some of this is personal preference but in no particular order, Silver Star's color palette puts me off. It's always pushing drab browns and greens like a 1970s furnished basement. It's a stark difference when compared to Eternal Blue. It also suffers from something a lot of the more amateurish RPGs of the day did where you'd run into a boss fight that is impossible if you don't have a certain spell but once you earn that spell it's a joke. The fire spell dog boss fight is an example of this. The game also has weird pacing in the dungeons. You don't really get the sense a boss is coming. You just sort of walk into it and *boom* boss fight. I like the game a lot, it's just the remake brings a lot to the table, which is more than I can say for Eternal Blue's remake.

>>6881248
The worst thing about the remake of Eternal Blue in my opinion is how off model the FMVs are. Can't really say much about Silver Star (Story) because the first game's "FMV" barely qualifies as animation but Eternal Blue had very nice looking video by Sega CD standards. Then the remake comes along and everyone's face looks fucked up.

>>6881292
Oh, and also I like how Silver Star Story brought the first game's mechanics in line with Eternal Blue's, which I love. Mechanically it feels tighter and more unique than the way Alex just seemingly arbitrarily was a fire mage in the original.

>>6881353
>Oh, and also I like how Silver Star Story brought the first game's mechanics in line with Eternal Blue's, which I love. Mechanically it feels tighter and more unique than the way Alex just seemingly arbitrarily was a fire mage in the original.
Does SCD Eternal Blue plays the same as SSS?
I mean that AI combats for me.

>>6880359
Sega CD

>>6881376
It has random encounters unlike the two remakes but more or less, yes.

SSSC > *

>>6881310
Not only do the new cinematics look weird in their style, Working Designs didn't re-record most of the dialogue even though the new animation frequently doesn't match up with the original. I don't know of the Japanese version is the same but it's laughably terrible how lazy it is.

>>6881426
Naw, a handful of girly pics that you can just Google don't make up for everything else being worse.

>>6880564
>>6880723
>>6880359
Lunar Magic School, of course.

>>6881036
>>6881059
>>6881076
>>6881426
god kubooka made some tasty girls
wish he wasnt poisoned by im@s

bump for real retro

>>6880359
As always, the answer is the most inconvenient way.

>>6880359
>>6880539
>>6881267
>SOUL

>>6880539
The PS1 port was localized by cuckolded designs retard

>>6885032
Speaking of inconvenient, I'm annoyed the Saturn translation of SSS isn't using the MPEG version.

>>6880359
I've only played all the ports of Silver Star but play the Sega CD or Saturn depending on the feel you want. Sega CD has random spawning enemies while you can avoid in Saturn. Sega CD has a cool "greenish blue" retro vibe and is way more basic, you can probably beat it way faster. Saturn is basically the game at its peak. GBA port is shitty but I have feels for it cause it was how I first played the game. The PSP port isn't bad if you want a more "advanced" version, but it lacks the pure soul of the CD and Saturn versions. There is no reason to play the PS1 version just a shitty version of the Saturn.

>>6885076
seething tranny

>>6880359
Sega CD version is very primitive with an ugly, drab color palette
Go for the PS1 remake
The devs of the PS1 remake for the sequel made it worse, so go SCD for that one

>>6885076
Both were done by the same company you fucking retard.

Any of the non working design versions. The translation was done by a bunch of lazy hacks who lied to everyone about what the story is

Would someone be so kind as to upload the Saturn translation patch so I don't have to sign up for a forum?

The Sega CD version of internal blue has better music

>>6887616
Is it finished yet? I thought they were still fixing problems with the audio.

Are there two different sega Saturn versions of lunar one that uses mpeg different and one that doesn't or are they the same?

>>6887709
I don't think it's completely finished but AFAIK there is a file available. As long as it's playable and readable from start to finish that's honestly fine for me.

>>6887524
The irony is that the only version of Lunar not done by Working Designs was the GBA port of Silver Star which was brought over by Ubisoft and it's even worse.

>>6887616
Don't bother with the shitty Saturn version either way.

>>6888219
learn japanese and play it the way it was meant to be played then or hope for a fan translation that is faithful to the material. Working Designs was the original tranny and at least Atlus did not follow down that path, even if their persona games are absolute shit

>>6888250
Working Designs just did shitty translations, GameArts is the one who fucked up their own remake. Either way the Sega CD versions are better.

>>6880359
why, the Un-Working Designs hacks on Sega CD, of course.

Hows LSSS for Psp?

what are those ecchi scene?

>>6880359
Sega CD version is really bad actually, it has a lot of issues in its UI and menu responsiveness, and the difficulty is braindead. Saturn or PSX, pick one of the two.

For Lunar 2 though, Sega CD.

>>6888297
>Changing the ending part back to the inferior original
That was an awesome change you bastards!

>>6880359
Is there any translation not done by working designs in English?

>>6888297
Too bad there's no hack to have JP voice acting with english text.

>>6889174
Yeah the GBA port is by UbiSoft but somehow it's even worse. It's like they tried to make it as opposite to the WD version as possible and the result is that it's incredibly bland. It feels like they just ran the text through google translate and had an intern half heartedly fix some syntax. I don't like Ireland's translations.

>>6890585
That game was fucked from the start, regardless of translation. It was like if Cliff's Notes had a video game series.

Sega CD version is worth playing just to get to this moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv9Uzi9ErOg

>>6890658
Which is how I feel about almost every gba port of earlier games. What a weird system.