/vr/ - Retro Games

=== UPCOMING PROJECT ===

450ml of /vr/ (for Blood)
Before the project officially begins, familiarize yourself with MAPEDIT:
https://archive.org/details/BloodMapedit
Optional discord for questions:
(One of the links ought to work)
https://discord.gg/NfFP9Pu
https://discord.gg/ZwbHZQ
Rules: >>6837387


=== NEWS ===
[12-09]
Ruskies finally released the HD pack for Quake 2, Reckoning, and Ground Zero, it can be used on Yamagi.
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-the-reconing-ground-zero-hi-res-texture-pack

Something about Unreal I dunno
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0

[10-9] Someone is trying to make Chunky software Quake 2 source port on the same vein as quakespasm
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-ii-heavy-metal-q2hm/news/quake-ii-is-revving-up-with-guns-strogg-and-heavy-metal

[10-9] 2048 Units of /vr/ is updated to 1.2, including a BFG replacement for 2048 Guns.
Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/bj4nvtd5wjbyegq/2048unitsvr_v1.2.zip?dl=1
2048 Guns: https://www.dropbox.com/s/l51hgsqhcg2v99e/2048GUNS.zip?dl=1

[9-9] twad, a terminal based wad launcher for Doom was released.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116457-twad-a-wad-launcher-for-the-terminal/

[9-9] Hideous destructor got updated: https://github.com/MatthewTheGlutton/HideousDestructor/releases/tag/v4.4.2b
So as Ugly as sin: https://github.com/caligari87/Ugly-as-Sin/releases/tag/v4.4.2b-1
and there is now a site to see all the addons done for Hideous destructor: https://accensi.gitlab.io/hdportal/index.html

[6-9] ROTT is getting an official source port for PC & consoles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPFS99n4X2I [Embed] [Embed]

[6-9] La Tailor Girl got updated to 1.76b:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1164495#p1164495

[6-9] anon's latest weapon mods, with contribution from VA anon. Developed and tested on GZD 4.4.2.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=69764

=== PREVIOUS ===

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Based OP, texture alignment should never be ignored.

HISS

I need more testers for my MAP11
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=99076

I'm probably too generous right now because I'm bad at fighting cyberdemon.

>>6873991
Doom 2 format, no jumping or crouching. Difficulty implemented. Keep forgetting that there's other options.

Mod Idea:

>All you have is a super soaker
>All enemies are feminists that shriek at you and deplete your sanity
>Soaking them with water makes wet tshirt bunnies out if them, instead of a death state they get a dance state

>>6874052
Rachael will have a hissy fit if it sees such a mod. Or maybe it will just quietly swipe it under the rug like it did with the mod where you played as good guys in Vietnam War.

>>6873978
I'm graphically challenged, these textures are aligned to what? What's this pic about is what I'm trying to figure out.

>>6874052
Cute idea. Maybe you can get the Hdoom guy to make you sprites, or the dude who made La tailor girl

>>6874074
Alignment is a meme from Dungeons and Dragons. Texture alignment is when you make sure the textures are offeset to continue between adjacent lines.

>>6874073
Eh, I wanted to make it old school 90s girls gone wild style, so no blue haired hamplanets or anything. Maybe it could be perceived tongue in cheek/ironic enough for people to just have a laff.

>>6874076
You think they'd do that? I thought of modifying Duke stripper sprites.

>>6874084
>You think they'd do that?
I got no idea whatsoever, but they're both nice enough dudes and I'm pretty sure they hang around here from time to time, so might as well ask how they feel about a collab and see what they say

>>6874084
>Maybe it could be perceived tongue in cheek/ironic enough for people to just have a laff
Ahahahahaha jesus fucking christ on a cross did you forgot what times we live in, you poor bastard?

>>6874084
Dont let people police your creative drive. If they dont like it on ideological grounds or whatever: fuck 'em. You dont need their aproval.

>>6874148
Ah it's ok, not that I gave an actual fuck about a blue haired hamplanet's opinion, but I also don't want to associate with incel types. I just like boobies and enjoy wet tshirts.

>>6874150
If you just like tits and wet shirts, why do they have to be feminists? You know more butthurt people are gonna take that as an attack.

>>6874165
Because it's funnier than just having some thots walking around the beach, and it gives you an incentive to use the super soaker on them in the first place. Also, I just rewatched Homer Badman and the episode with the duff commercial where they transform coeds into hot girls.

>>6874182
>the episode with the duff commercial where they transform coeds into hot girls
Fuck me, I KNEW your idea reminded me of something! I've been scratching my head for 15 minutes trying to remember what show or video I saw that in.
Aah, I'll be able to sleep soundly tonight

>>6872367
Can't tell if you are italian or russian

>>6873991
I've got to say you got an interesting style of using vanilla textures, you mix seemingly unfitting textures together and it somehow works out great. The difficulty was just right, maybe you could make it a bit harder. Maybe add an Archvile to the last fight since you get so much ammo for it. I like the Cyberdemon fight setup, but I think you could do more with it. Perhaps make the holes in the arena not do damage, but instead lower low enough you can't get out for a while. This might be either a good or a terrible idea though. I didn't realize the map concept at first, but I was impressed once I've noticed it.

>>6874336
I'm comitted to using Doom 2 format for this project so I can't do any complex voodoo scripting. Also trapping player like this next to a cyberdemon is not very nice. The last fight yeah, probably could use an arch-vile. I removed a few monsters originally because it was too crowded, but didn't think about adding a vile.

>>6873991
Hey, I was playing through Hell Frontier and on map04, the red key room broke the map. I'll record a demo and see if I can recreate what happened. So far it's a good mapset though.

>>6874375
How did it break exactly? It seems fairly foolproof to me, no corners to clip through etc.
And what port are you using?

>see Crispy DOOM updated since I last downloaded it
>grab the new files
>they changed the colors of the extended automap
Is there a setting that lets me use the 5.8.0 and earlier colors? It's not a huge enough deal that I'd go back to an outdated version but I was used to it and the new colors, even if they are closer to vanilla, feel weird now. I liked the softer-on-the-eyes walls of pic

>>6874381
I was playing it with prboom+, complevel 2. After the teleport puzzle when the staircase raises and let's you access the key, the ceiling lowered in the room. I could teleport out, but couldn't make any progress because the ceiling had also lowered in the main room as well.

>>6873991
Very nice map, I'd say right away I loved the concept of the same map having two verisons - base and hell - and switching between them. Nice midi choice, it suited the action well
There was a little bit too much ammo around the whole map(I used rockets frequently with little regard for stock, but maybe that was the intention), and the cyberdemon fight was a bit undynamic, since there was not much space and cover to fight him - he forced me into the map corner(pic related) so I had to play peakaboo with him
The final fight was cool too, if a bit too tight spacewise, I somehow retreated and could snipe the last enemies from pic related.
Also loved archvile placement through the map, no monster inspires as much fright as that lanky motherfucker. It really added challenge and emotion to the map to have him pop up once in a while near a large pile of resurrectable bodies
Final verdict: solid map, needs work only on ammo placement and cyberdemon encounter maybe? Good work anon.

>>6873978
Is there any way I can play this old thing on my switch?

>>6874073
who tf is rachel

>>6874393
This is super weird. You mean ceiling lowered into the floor over the blood? I don't even think there's any actions to lower the ceiling or close the door and that room isn't tagged, so prBoom shouldn't have done something like that.

>>6874384
Not sure if it's what you want but there is a toggle for different colors in the crispy menu.

>>6874407
The unity ports are actually pretty good now.

>>6874410
The Whore of Babylon who Simps Graf and works on GZdoom and is Zdoom Forums Admin

>>6874417
Are you referring to Extended Automap colors or something else? That's the setting I used to use, but they changed it between 5.8.0 and 5.9.1 (top is original colors, middle is 5.8.0 extended, bottom is new extended).
>detected possible malicious code in file
4chan what are you smoking

>>6874429
what is that thing

>>6874458
Doom episode 5.

>>6874474
no, the purple thing

>>6874506
It's clearly a Gameboy Advance SP.

>>6874509
weird stuff

>gman took down the new doom video

Is there a way to easily add or remove episodes from episode select using dehacked?

>>6873991
hey anon,

i thought this map was pretty amazing, i enjoyed everything and found it very unique. it was very disorienting (in a good way) when the map "flipped" to hell, it really confused me about the cyberdemon location and i almost got trapped running away from it.

also i want to say i found all secrets pretty logically, and didn't need trial-and-error snooping around.

great job overall!

>>6874551
what was it about?

>>6874052
If you're going to make something controversial that's also sexual, you could instead go all the way and have you seduce them (or hell, force them, depending on what you like) to defeat them, THAT would get people REALLY angry. Or they transform into that kind of old fashioned housewife which tradneets always fantasize about.

>>6874084
>You think they'd do that?
Probably not. I don't know where those guys stand on things like that, but they probably won't "shit where they eat" with ideas like that, and Mike seems like he's really busy with stuff.

>>6874602
The Unity port. He made some really strange errors in his script that made it very apparent he doesn't do much research for his videos.

>>6874123
This, really. You could make it as light hearted, ironic, and goofy as possible, but someone will still blow a fuse over it and proclaim you to be this week's Adolf Hitler. Might as well not hold back and just do it the exact way you personally think would be the best, regardless of what that would actually be.

>>6874150
>I just like boobies and enjoy wet tshirts.
A perfect excuse to just make it, then. Maybe you could throw in some Married With Children references here and there.

>>6874613
>He made some really strange errors in his script
Like claiming the game was rebuilt in Unity.

>>6874613
Oh yeah I saw the thumbnail earlier and knew he was going to make some errors when talking about it. I never even watched the video lol.

>>6874432
And stole Skulltag from Carnevil back in the day.

>>6874641
And she also stole and possibly Killed randy to take over ZdoomForums by force

>>6874602
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116818-responding-to-gmanlives-removed-unity-doom-video/

Damn, DoomWorld is just as based if not more based than we are.

>>6874653
They have their moments. Some of the users are cringe as fuck (like NotJabba), but there's a lot of people there who are just in it for the love of the game, and are very serious about that.

Got to admit, the ancient Q2 Maps are real good
Not because of how simple and good they are but how the Q2 Tileset can be used right and the monsters for it.
>pic is incarc.bsp/Incarceration

>>6874653
On the one hand you have posts like this, but on the other you have the posts that are like that recent on that went "uhm we N E E D to talk about the rise of boomer shooters and that theyre bad now i guess cus pseudo intellect."

at least the latter gave us unironically based post from anon:

>>6874653
>>6874726
On the one hand you have posts like this, but on the other you have the posts that are like that recent on that went "uhm we N E E D to talk about the rise of boomer shooters and that theyre bad now i guess cus pseudo intellect."

at least the latter gave us unironically based post from anon:

>>6874825
the exact same thing happens here
>UM IS THAT A SOURCEPORT I DONT LIKE? CAN I SEE HALF LIFE ON YOUR SHELF?

>>6874602
being a cocksucking reviewer who couldn't even review his own scripts

I found that just setting "-width 856 -height 480" in PrBoom+um is a reasonably good way to get the Crispy experience for more demanding wads.

what are some simple mods like brutal doom?

>>6874551
>ggggggman
>posts gif on shitter
"I found this Doom looking thing. Looks cool. I have no idea what the source is."
That fuckmook can't even use image search. He relies on his audience to correct his many fuckups so he can keep raking in money. The dumbest and laziest way of doing things and "people" continue to consume his trash.
At least he can be led right off of a cliff and the lemmings will follow. Go for it.
Oh, and stop coming to these threads, fuckheadman. You are useless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLlSWml_G74

>>6874841
Which is less a person who's here because he really likes Doom, or even videogames, and more that he's here because he has a serious and untreated mental illness. Even on Doomworld, a lot of the shitters and wingnuts actually do contribute levels, assets, and criticism (some better than others, mind), and they are mostly in it because they like the game. Someone like Scuba Steve is a cringe motherfucker these days, but he's also made some genuinely good shit.

I don't think we can take a distinct outlier like Alf as an example of /doom/s userbase.

>>6874881
but can you stretch it to full screen while maintaining crispness?

Is there a doom map that's a 1:1 recreation of some place, like Alcatraz or the Pentagon?

>>6875004
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/

I use this program to go full screen with lower res apps. There's a demo that's slightly less configurable but should work.

>>6874841
In fairness, also, a lot of more level headed people spoke up about how retarded that thread was, and the mods did their job by locking it, because it was a very bad thread.
For its flaws, Doomworld is leagues better than Twitter and Reddit.

>>6875012
Yeah bro the Columbine shooters made an exact replica of their school before they shot it up, true story
To answer for real this comes to mind
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113196-national-videogame-museum-wad-v10-released/

>>6875012
There is a Doom map that recreates NYC

>>6875032
Link?

>>6875012
There were quite a lot of myhouse.wad made in the 90s, and it wasn't unusual for people to recreate their workplace or school, because they liked the novelty of being able to deathmatch with their coworkers/schoolmates in a setting like that. It was a bit more of an innocent time.

>>6874653
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116818-responding-to-gmanlives-removed-unity-doom-video/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2187549
> ok guys i was wrong BUT SHUTUP YOURE HURTING MY EGO
he just cant stop being defensive and painting himself as the victim

seeing his other responses posted in the thread just makes him look so fucking self-important and thin-skinned
> downplaying, deflecting, and exaggerating
can't even just say "i was wrong" without trying to poise himself as being in the right

>>6875036
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Planisphere_2
I'd recommend to run it in something that's lightweight, like PrBoom+, because it's a pretty goddamn large map.

>>6875052
I don't think it runs in PrBoom+ just tried and it throws an error. It looks like it only works in GZDoom.

>>6875060
It does, but the level doesn't have any ready nodes, so you would either have to use a port which will build those for you in their absence, or use a nodebuilder on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEunZz9asmk

Is this Doomkid?

>>6874416
>You mean ceiling lowered into the floor over the blood?
Yeah, I think it also lowered most of the map's ceilings, or at least the ones in the central room.
I can't seem to recreate the error, I've even tried playing on different complevels just to make sure I didn't make that mistake the first time I played it. I don't know if I did something out of order in the level to cause the ceiling to lower or what. Makes me wish I captured a screenshot of it for you.

>>6875012
Trinity College is a legendary one

>>6875110
Maybe your memory got corrupted or something. Random actions without tags pop up.

>>6875129
Maybe, I wouldn't sweat it. My apologies for any scare.

>>6874995
>Dorrie made out of those meat textures
Horrifying and beautiful

where can i grab some sprites that look like innocent people?

>>6875015
Well Nvidia finally incorporated integer scaling after a big push from the community las year. https://www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3503-hw-news-nvidia-integer-scaling-rdna-whitepaper-intel-comet-lake
Ridiculous how something this basic almost got memory holed.

>>6875192
Strife, Quarantine, Carmageddon.

>>6874510
Computers gonna compute, no matter the size. Nothing weird about that.

>>6875192
TekWar

>>6874052
>cute idea for a game where you spray girls down with a super soaker
>need to shit it up with incel shit

Why are 99% of Quake 2 user content multiplayer?

Did people really give such little of a fuck about SP?

>>6875252
Sounds based though. Cry more soi boi

>>6875060
In the thread with plainsphere there's a nodded version posted

>>6875256
Quake 2's singleplayer in many ways wasn't as strong as the first game's, however the multiplayer is VERY good, a lot of what people loved about Quake 3 Arena goes back to Quake 2's multiplayer, it did those things very right.

>>6875267
Holy shit.

>>6875307
Wasnt this the map where the author went for the Boom's linedef limit?

>>6875102
nice to see one of jack blacks kids getting into retro gaming.

>>6875210
The nice thing about this app is that, selecting multi-display puts the game in a borderless fullscreen mode so that you can still mouse around on other monitors whilst keeping aspect ratio correct fullscreen.

>>6873981
>Something about Unreal I dunno
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwxJGUsJ0c
there are two new patches in the works for unreal and unreal tournament, 227j and 469
epic gave the ut source code to the oldunreal community
this thing is being made in the 227j patch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJetmdI6N3o
directx11 is another entirely different thing, there are links in the descriptions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70tcRQYbMls

>>6875370
Wow those HD textures suffer from ever "HD texture" sin imaginable

>>6875378
they are not part of the patches or the renderer

>>6875383
idk thats what that guy gushes about so

Is there a reason to use Woof! over PrBoom+?

>>6873981
La tailor girl updated to 1.76C:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&start=420#p1165358

>>6875432
It's crispier

>>6875263
I can't read words ending in "oi" without thinking of Microsoft Sam

>>6875256
Because Q2 Multiplayer was massive and it was easier to mod
But that doesn't mean that the SP was "forgotten"
Many maps existed over the years and most of it died with planet quake and other websites
>also im lazy to post links so here is the reckoning thread were map links were posted and the dropbox link
>>6856990
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/h903yx4ebv19oge/AABuB38MjMrcT9Ysdg9mDMaXa


>>6875407
>>6875383
Ignore Alf

>>6873978
as much i love old games like doom and quake

Pickup Flashes is the one thing in old fps game I hate the most

picking up an item then flashes on the screen, imagine picking up a ton of item and have the flashes go out like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ggi7dL4qMw

is there a way to turn off pick up flashes in quakespasm as well as Eduke 32

Glad GZDoom can turn off pick up flashes, but you have to do that via console

Pickup Flash Intensity (0.0—1.0, by 0.05 increments)
pickup_fade_scalar
Controls the intensity of the screen flash effect upon picking up items. Higher values increases the intensity while lower values decreases it. Setting this to 0, disables the effect.

>>6875514
For some fucking reason Samsara implemented Pick up flashes

although Pickup_fade_scalar affected the items, but when picking up weapons FUCK

to terminusest13 who implemented pick up flashes into the code

Fuck you

Security officer (marathon) has the worst pick up flashes

shame too I love samsara, but i hate pick up flashes every time pickup a weapon

>>6875497
>Ignore Alf
dude
none of those posters is alf
take off your tinfoil hat if you have it on
put on your tinfoil hat if you have it of

>>6875560
Fuck off Alf.

>>6875565
I see Alf got to the falseflagging now.
Fuck off Alf.

This is the third time the Q2 spammer has linked that thread. A thread with 30 pity-posts, half of them his own. Just report the retard at this point.

Now that pistol start is included in the more accurate source ports should that be a new single segment speedrun category?

Quake 2 tards are delusional.

>>6875263
If he liked spraying girls with water he probably isn't a feminist, he just doesn't want people forcing some bullshit ideology into the idea, you goddamn retarded gorilla Nger

are there any successfull attempts at giant bosses in doom mods?

>>6875592
I keep mentioning Q2 as I have beat it again recently and played the expansions again and that anon is simply responding to me in a kind manner.

Calm your autism.

>>6875702
you have shit taste

I really just don't like shooters that require looking up and down. It slows down the pace of engagement.

I tried replaying Q2 recently but lost the interest halfway

>>6875702
Ignore alf and his nigger friends, some are even from Quake 1 mapping discord group
they tried to shitpost at /vm/ against Doom, Q2 and sven Co-op and they got hammered by the jannies there.

They don't even play the games or even comes here to talk about, they are at their fucking discord group always waiting to shitpost here.
and the jannies didn't rangebanned them, since fucking /vr/ doesn't have anti flamewar rules like /v/.

>>6875789
>and they got hammered by the jannies there.
Why can't the jannies do that here?

>>6875757
Play on Nightmare. I played on hard and was bored to tears but nightmare held my attention for the first half. At some point you basically become unstoppable maybe about 3/4 through the game.

When you get the railgun I think. There's also power armor that uses BFG ammo which also makes you unstoppable. Weirdly you have to actually equip it manually. The game doesn't mention it.

So which one of you absolute legends is going to go in and place a bunch of pre-baked coloured lights in Quake pc maps where they are placed in the N64 version?

Oh, go on!....

Can't lie about the overall meh feeling of Quake II single player and it's dumb AI, but trying to play it speed run style going really fast helps make things a lot more interesting.

Overall though it was an era where multiplayer online gaming was just starting to become available to many, so you can't really talk about the Quake series without leaning heavily on the multiplayer experience.

>>6875871
I was reading batman: no man's land recently and saw the ads for HEAT.net, quake 2 and baldurs gate was all people had man, I feel for boomers.

I don't like Quake 2

>>6875102
I think so. There's also a thread where people post their pictures (and the Doomworld regulars in general look more normal than the ZDoom regulars for some reason).

/vr/ is better than ever, cope.

Hey blood anons, show us what you've been workin' on! I made a short webm showing off my golf course but it compressed like shit, I guess I'll post it anyway.

>>6876006
Looks exactly as ugly as the regular levels

>>6876006
The vegetation looks really cool, I'm not making a map but I'm excited for the mappack.

>>6875906
Shit now I'm trying to remember what I had loaded up on the old Win95 machines besides quake. Lots of single player stuff to be sure.

>>6875954
Understandable, we've only had so many years of games since to refine the formula.

>>6876021
Appreciate it dude

>>6876013
I haven't even broken out the FIREBLU yet, just you wait.

>>6876052
>I haven't even broken out the FIREBLU yet, just you wait.
Would at least be an improvement. I am at E4M5 and I really really don't like the texturing. The level layouts are so good, but they all look so fucking ugly and boring apart from the odd cool setpiece.

I always find it crazy that Doom is damn near unstoppable and has kept its relevance far more than Quake ever did. Was it consistency? Quake has a similar issue to Unreal where various games in the same series are vastly different both thematically and gameplay wise.

>>6876074
Doom is boring without mods tho.

>>6875906
>quake 2 and baldurs gate was all people had man
Unreal, Ultima Online, StarCraft... Fuckin when was delta force released? I knew someone who was really into that. There was a fair choice out there.
There's more selection now, but it's mostly shit.

>>6876074
Quake I think still holds on some because it's still fairly close to Doom, in that it's a straightforward and fun shooter you can just HUH into and you're good.

>>6876064
Well, I guess that's like your opinion and stuff. I like the art style / textures personally. Were also using a texture pack, there's some really nice assets in there.

>>6876074
I think other factors that might have contributed to this situation is that Quake is pretty much just a grimier rehash of Doom's concept when you think about it, and I'd say Quake's enemy roster is not as interesting as Doom 2's enemies. But even despite that I love both equally.

>>6875906
judging by the ad, Q3 would've been out by that point already
curious, did people play BG1 "competitively"? sounds ridiculous.

Alf-Life: Alf's Harrowing Half-Life Life

>>6876074
a big part of it may be how easy it is to mod compared to Quake

Quake had issues with that for the longest time, but Trenchbroom has become a really powerful tool in recent years, and quakespam has replaced Darkplaces as the go-to sourceport. It will never be as modular as Doom is, but its a whole lot better these days.

HUH

>>6876117
>That fov
What is wrong with you

>>6876179
If I can't see my ears, the FOV's not high enough.

>>6876117
the fuck is wrong with your eyes

>>6874825
>somebody screencapped my post
I'm flattered, thank you.

>>6876195
I'm a spider dude

>>6876074
Doom was primarily popular for singleplayer and user content for it. Quake was popular for the multiplayer and all the user content is multiplayer maps/mods.

>>6876117
>When Caleb's eldritch power is growing so great he's slowly transforming into a fish-man.

>>6876201
The philosophy of "It's just video games" should be preserved for future generations.

The depressing thing is, it really shouldn't have to. It should just be common knowledge.

Is there a comparison image of all the graphical options like nearest_mipmap etc options for Quake?

And shit like fog/circle or square particles/etc etc

>>6876205
>Doom was primarily popular for singleplayer and user content for it.
U wot? Doom invented DEATHMATCH and basically everybody was deathmatching each other all the time. "Doom decreasing productivity in offices" is not a meme.

>>6876139
NO ONE was really playing quake 3MP, people loved more Q2 and QW because mods and fun
Also Q3A Netcode was FUCKED since the demo test, and they didn't fixed it, it took MONTHS and people moving to better isp services and connections until it was good enough for it, the dreamcast port was blessed with a better netcode because SEGA didn't fucked around, even Battlezone Heat.net was smooth
Also Id packaged a mplayer register on the top of it because of tim willits fucking with it.

UT99 had a better netcode than Q3A, and Q2 itself had a better Netcode than Q3A.

>>6876097
Delta Force was in 97-98 and it used Novalogic's Kino Novaworld and IBS servers.

>>6874997
He left a recent positive Half-Life thread alone only to link to it in the previous thread to call the OP a cuck in here. I suspect he's a coward of some sort; he won't attack an actual thread about the game where he thinks he's outnumbered but has to bring it up everywhere else, like he thinks he'll find someone on his side in here.

>>6876235
Negligence at id became insane.
At least Q3A was carried because of Multiplayer mods, Fatal1ty, Thresh and the rest of the old farts, as they did with Q2 and QW.
Team Arena was garbage since it added Nothing to the game, and it was Tim's way to fuck with the game for the last time

>>6875040
Also mapping a place you have a reference for is good practice. Asking yourself "can I make x in y" is a good way of finding out what a program can do, especially if you're like me and can't come up with ideas on the fly.

>>6875483
soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi

>>6875228
>nothing weird about playing sigil on gba
What?

>>6875514
Partially related
>Zandronum has an announcer for shit like item pickups
>there was a map that, for some fucking reason, had like ten megaspheres stacked on top of each other
>the announcer stacks over himself and shatters my eardrums

>>6873978
Preview of the new Assault Shotgun for LitDoom. Each weapon will have an "inspect" animation where you check it out and initially reload it. It can be interrupted with a kick though, if you grab it mid-fight or something.

>>6876296
>Play QCDE
>Shoot someone with the SSG
>"PRECISION!" stacked 20 times over breaks headphones

>>6876307
On this note, we're still recruiting sprite artists, etc. We could really use another coder if anyone's interested in helping out!

>>6876213
Shadow over Innsmouth as a Blood mod when

:3

>>6876217
it really shouldn't have to be, no

>>6875102
> Mario shit all over the place
Why are pedophiles so hardcore into Mario and switch shit?

>>6876343
i read this as mario shitting all over the place

>>6876327
B)

Any pointers to sauce on this?

>>6876343
>pedophile
what

>>6876327
Is that sunglasses wearing dog fucking smoking? Damn he's cool.

>>6876327
REKKR was cool af
E2 was the best

>>6876327
MADAO Dog the Wonder Madaog?

>>6876370
It's currently the new meme insult.

>>6876469
For how long? A week? A month?

>>6876469
When, where?

>>6876221
I know, but anon was asking what happened as time matched on. I was explaining that the two series diverged over time in terms of how people viewed them and played them.

>>6876363
Game in the screenshot? It's Target, a Polish FPS game that I think either used Build or an original engine. I remember playing a demo a long while back.
Might be worth checking out for the socrealistic vibe actually, but just looking at it it screams jank

>>6876528
Ah, gotcha

>>6876325
Surprised this hasn't been done yet honestly. Closest thing I've seen is that port town level in Death Wish.

why are these threads slower than usual? too many people leaving during the transition to not retro becoming retro?

>>6876595
It might be the abundance of new threads because of all the new games that can be discussed on here. Everyone's attention is diverted all over the board. Or a bunch of people left, that is also possible.

>>6876595
summer is over

>>6876604
I forgot about that. That might be it as well, who knows.

>>6876604
but most of the schools are closed

Also memes aside, I can't believe the funny crown virus situation has gotten to the point where it can essentially effect the whole summerfag trope, on paper at least

Is the ammo amount a Zombieman drops hardcoded? I made custom ammo that replaces the clip and gives 10 amount. When I summon it, I get 10, however when I pick it up from a dead zombieman I only get 5.

>>6876595
I know several people who used to use the board and stopped, and I more or less stopped glancing at the board outside /DOOM/. This change was a nuclear bomb and I'm glad this place at least hasn't been affected. I'll take Alf's faggotry any day over the population displacement happening with the rest of the board.

>>6876690
Ammo dropped from monsters is half of what it gives when manually placed; it's why a shotgun gives you 8 shells but a shotgunner's shotgun only gives you four.

>>6876704
Duhhh.... Is that written anywhere? I can't remember ever seeing that anywhere.

Since the threads slow. Here's my "if doom stayed retro" timeline that I played through.
>Doom 1 (Doom Ultimate + SIGIL)
>Doom 2
>Doom 3 (Retribution or EX)
>Doom 4 (TNT+D4D)
>Doom 5 (Plutonia+Final Doomer)
In retrospect i'd probably ditch TNT for another mapset like BTSX or something. I might keep going and try to curate a much better fictional release list with progression and other aspects in mind.

>>6875052
>>6875263
Hot damn that pretty cool. Surprised there isn't more IRL locations for the fuck of it.

>>6876319
>>6876307

Skimmed your YT/mod page, I like what you have going on. That clip of you walking through the acid clouds with night vision was pretty kino. I'll check out your latest version this week and drop my impressions on your moddb.

Side note: please do something about those filters. They're all over your SS and videos and are not doing the sprite work any favors

>>6876693
IMO /vr/ had really gone to shit in the past couple of years, so I'm fine with shaking it up, because I found any time I went outside of /doom/ I'd always find the same retarded faggotry; Overrated threads, Console War Pt. 2391-B, E-Celeb Rage/Bait Thread, daily OP Pretends To Be A Zoomer For (You)'s threads, etc, etc.
It really hadn't been a fun place to talk to people in for years. Venturing outside now, I occasionally see something to talk about which is new and interesting, and not the same unfathomably stale canned bait.

>>6876530
thanks anon, split screen shooters like this are jank indeed but i love them.

>>6876740
Agree. The quality really hasn't decreased, the threads are as shit as before, just with another focus. However, at least for me who had a GC during his adolescence, I see more threads I am interested in than before.

>>6876735
Thanks!

Yeah, my sceenshots and such come from a few different places. I'm actually one of the writers, rather than the lead dev, since we plan on having a full beastiary, armory entries etc. that you can find in maps to add to the PDA.

Here's an example of one of my shots, from E-Day.

>>6876740
Finally someone who knows what's up. There will be initial /v/ faggotry and all it takes is for /vr/ regulars to shoot it down and not spam sekrit klub posts in every new thread. I'm thankful we can have proper Castlevania threads and also talk about GBA, which has a library of mostly retro ports and retro clones anyway.
No more fucking endless /g/lite spam either.

>>6875845
nearest thing
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake/addons/quake-colored-lightmaps

>>6875906
>quake 2 and baldurs gate was all people had man
and it was better that way, now you have so much choice you end playing nothing

>>6876835
I spent most of winter and spring this year playing BG and BG2, then I did Doom maps all summer, and now I'm playing Doom 64.
I have plenty of choices and I'm having plenty of fun with them.

>>6876835
>you end playing nothing
I don't, speak for yourself.

>>6876835
People doesn't know how good Action quake and Threewave Were
Or the fight inbetween UT, Quake 2 and Battlezone, those were days.

>>6876864
AQ2 had a resurgence a few years back and I played it a bit. I tried that battlezone remake on steam recently because I like combined arms games and I had to refund it because it was just really buggy and the multiplayer was dead.

>>6876074
Thing about Quake was, when it was released it was so innovative that there was no proper infrastructure for modders, like 3D modelling software and such. By the time such infrastructure was developed, modders just moved onto more modern 3D games (both TF and CS started out as Quake modes, for example). People working with 2D sprites, on other hand, had nowhere to go - Build was much less mod-friendly at start, and then ZDoom came and blew it out the water. Mapping-wise, 2.5D mapping has lower entry barrier and Doom has great map editors, which leads to more people trying to dabble at Doom mapping.

>>6876351
mario pooping on doomguy

I missed the conversation about Mount Pain 27's YouTube channel in the last thread, is anyone able to provide a link? My retard ass has been having a Hell of a time trying to find it.

Are there any addons for Complex Doom that work in GZDoom?

Recently discovered Complex and have been blazing through 7 oblige/obaddon megawads with it. I've been missing out, this stuff is hella good!

>>6876890
Battlezone remasters are dead because REBELLION, who even fucked over the source code releases since the game was a quick cashgrab to fund their SJW shit with dredd comics and the garbage 2000 AD games
Also Community infighting over server shenanigans and hackers.

one of the guys was working on a Remaster patch for Dark Reign

>>6876890
the vr one was unexpectedly good, one of the most solid coop roguelites available right now. combat commander and redux were meh, the game hasn't aged well.

>>6877104
see >>6877094 rebellion fucked over the community, also the CM and devs sperged over them over the source code, also Rebellion didnt paid the BZ2CC devs for the remaster and source code, also BZ98 Redux Didn't came with a proper way to convert the original maps to the new ones, or even a retro mode with the original models.


all of the fucking money went to Dredd, sjw policies and their garbage games of late.
Even the author killed hershey because fuckery

Here's my next playthrough. Darkhell.wad is an E2 replacement. So far not challenging, not dark, and with lots of random texturing. Also, E2M6 has a 2k words of backstory. Something like a movie or a play script.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-581DOQTQ8
>>6876998
Here it is. I found his channel thanks to yesterday's conversation and I'm really enjoying his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrYr2EMXw976tEpLxHhr1Rg

>>6877094
>>6877126
Sad. I wish combined arms simulationist games like battlezone and the mechwarrior series had taken off and gotten more love over the years. There's basically no games for the genre. There's living legends which while great, is on a terrible engine. There's renegade X too I suppose but it's far too arcadey and the maps are too small for anything resembling strategy.
Turns out the game I played and refunded was Combat Commander.

>>6877180
Play the 1st game and its mission pack
Also prepare yourself for it because the MP hard as fuck

If there's one thing I really want to criticize the PS4 port of Doom 64 for, it's the straight 30 seconds of unskippable (and loud) bullshit upon startup. Fuck that, I hope ZeniMax dies.

>>6877297
Weird, you can skip the intro in the Switch version

>>6877469
Children likely to lose interest very fast

>>6877491
Hahaha fair enough. I actually thought it was really cool playing a Doom game with an opening "cutscene" myself

first time playing tnt

>>6877840
At least you're having fun anon.

I'm thinking about trying TnT for the first time too, is the level design as shitty as everyone has made it out to be?

>>6877901
Is that something people say? I didn't mind it.

>>6877840
What gun mod is that?

>>6877923
d4t

>>6877901
>>6877919
It has some very good maps, and some maps which aren't so good, some which are very bad. Generally I'd say that the first two thirds has most of the best stuff.

I like TNT a lot, I think it has a lot of charm and has great atmosphere, but it's also not perfect.

> constantly checking sourceport git commits daily
I think I have an illness

>>6877929
If it's a mixed bag and not completely outright bad I'll give it a go.

How do you guys feel about the Unity port, anyways? I *thought* I noticed differences in the lighting but I could be remembering incorrectly. Now they just need to patch widescreen into coop and the console ports will be actually be really solid, I honestly expected way worse when I picked up Doom and Doom 2 on Switch. It's really fun and the addition of some mappacks was neat.

>>6877969
I think it's a good introduction to Doom and way less embarrassing then just dumping a copy of dosbox on you. Also, the widescreen art is gorgeous and I want it modded into other source ports.

>>6877983
I'm used to playing zDoom myself so I'm glad that Doom on modern consoles doesn't suck. The Bethesda login is kinda shitty but whatever, being able to play No Rest for the Wicked, Sigil, TnT, etc with my friends on my couch is really cool. Next week we're planning on getting hammered and trying Plutonia out together hahaha

>>6871078
I'm actually loving this trench warfare setting. Looking forward to this.

>>6877983
nash and others were already working on something similar for gzdoom, I wonder if they'll keep their work or just use the bethesda version

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67843

>>6878004
Just having splitscreen Doom, especially on PC, is really cool. Sitting down with some friends or family on a couch beats LAN hands down.

>>6878010
Does GZDoom fully support the Unity versions now?

>>6878010
Oh this is really cool, apparently they're the ones who did the Unity version,

Before I forget about, what's the best way to play multiplayer coop on pc? I tried the zDaemon client before and didn't really like it

>>6878014
someone was working on a splitscreen zdoom port but the circlejerk on the forum drove him away.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=55169

>>6878014
No idea. But this whole widescreen thing for gzdoom was being worked on way before the unity port implemented it.

>>6878010
>>6878016
Reading the thread and damn, I feel kinda sorry for Nash. He didn't even comment about Steve Scuba and his apology for kinda stealing his idea and being paid by Bethesda.

>>6878024
If on the same network, pretty much everything will work.

>>6877961
I do that to. Tell me about the cure in case of knowing one

>>6878040
I should have specified, I want to play online coop.

>>6877961
I do that too. Tell me about the cure in case of knowing one

Well, it's not quite there, but it shits the bed less than Crispy Doom.

>>6878046
Try to submit code and get laughed at for your poor programming practices.

>>6878124
I can't program worth dirty dick anyways, I leave that stuff to the capable

>>6877969
Unity Doom is okay nowadays but I'd still recommend a fanmade source port over it if playing on PC (which one in particular depends on your preferences, Crispy DOOM is my go-to if I'm not playing a mod not compatible with it), they're just more flexible and with how many there are one is bound to be perfect for you.
>I honestly expected way worse when I picked up Doom and Doom 2 on Switch
It depends on when you picked it up but at launch it was indeed way worse, they've patched most of the issues and directly addressed major complaints though

Is this the diaper baby boomer general?

>>6878171
Yeah, a sourceport will beat it any day of the week, but having an accurate, feature complete version of Doom with zero set-up is a good thing for bringing more players in. I hopped in during the 360/PS3 generation of ports. I'm sure these recent versions will bring more people in.

>>6878057
Does the title screen, hud and bunny work yet?

>>6878239
HUD is fucked up from what I saw.Title screen seems fine, I don't think bunny is fixed yet. But also there are issues with the blinking sprites being off on the intermission screen as well.

Just finished 2048 and I didn't expect the quality to be so consistently good. Glad to see the anons here have gotten better at making maps after all these years.

>>6878273
Glad to hear that. What was your favorite map?

>>6876469
nah, it's because most pedophiles are into Nintendo and Mario merchandise

>>6878317
I'm pretty sure its impossible to play splatoon as an adult male and not look like a pedophile.

vanguard is fun. playing uv saveless pistol start, and it's quite difficult. haven't gotten a first-play clear yet, 3 maps in. bodes well for making me a better player.

any recommendations for shorter wads? like 9-12ish maps?

>>6877969
When the unity port first came out, it was awful. But I honestly think they've improved it enough to be considered a decent port now. Just wish they'd raise the engine limits more to be inline with modern source ports, though I can understand if they don't want to crash the console versions with fuckhuge maps that make even computers today lag.

Do we have a midi list for 2048?

Why do people pay for Ion Fury when free mods like Ashes 2063/Afterglow are far better?

>>6878547
manchildren paypigs

>>6878547
Why people play Unreal when Quake exists?
Why people play Duke when Blood exists?
Why people play Half-Life when CoD exists?
and other stupid questions

>>6878584
I didn't say "play," I said "pay." I just don't understand why people would willingly give their money to a game that is far inferior compared to free alternatives.

>>6878597
because people have shite taste man, is that so hard to grasp?

>>6878547
I want to see another game or mod that pushes the Build Engine to its limits in the way that Ion Fury has

>>6872636
quake champions is just a terrible game that was pretty much doomed to fail when it combined a currently very niche genre, super powers that run entirely counter to that genre and extremely greedy and scummy buisness models that would struggle to work even in a game people actually liked like OW when it was new
The only fun in it was running people over as scarab

>>6875252
What? I didn't read him writing any incel ramblings.

>>6878597
Everything is free if you're pirate enough.

>>6876083
Get out, zoomer.

>>6878440
You can see the midis used in the credits file.

>>6878547
Hell, I'd pay for Ashes 2063

Why does Win10 give me a virus warning when I'm downloading Crispy Doom from the official git?

Are there any Rise of the Triad source ports that don't suck, or am I going to have to wait for the 3D Realms remaster to be finished? I don't really want to play it in DOSBox

>>6878998
https://github.com/LTCHIPS/rottexpr
there is this.

>>6879032
Thanks buddy

>"Another nightdive remaster in KEX!"

>>6879061
what's wrong with them?

>>6879061
I don't like nightdive's bullshit either but you're a faggot.

>>6879073
They're good.

>>6876469
No, it is because Nintendo fanbase has a unusually large number of pedophiles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf_H2SWbiF8

>>6878981
win10 is the real virus anyway

>>6875047
He still gets cranky when you bring up the blood fresh supply fiasco.

I got tired of his near exhausting shilling of Doom Eternal, hell he tried to compare the gamecube serious sam to it and I was like WTF?

He has blocked me 8 or 9 times.

>>6877901
TNT isn't shitty. It has some fun maps. It's just that it was made in 1995, and may feel a bit dated and slow compared to modern wads.

>>6875559
tbf even gzdoom didn't have pickup_fade_scalar back when he made the mod for zandronum! and considering how weapon pickups work in samsara at all, the workaround to add flashing back in is just painful.

>>6878370
you could check out maps by the same author (skillsaw), though they are not 9-12 maps; 9-12 maps is quite rare, people either generally do short stuff, or a full megawad?

valiant is of a similar difficulty to vanguard. maybe vanguard maps 11 and 12 are slightly harder than anything in valiant, it's debatable, you can cheese both I guess.

ancient aliens imo is harder.

>>6873978
Why do people hate fireblue so much? I like Mt Erebus.

>>6879289
I love how it ruins most encoding for stuff like videos and streams.

>>6879061
Anyone who prefers original Turok 2 over the remaster is a faggot and was probably not even born when it came out.

>>6879120
t. Ty Halderman

>>6879393
Ty Halderman died 5 years ago.

>>6878370
Lunatic is an another cool short mapset by the same author, although it's only 5 levels. Other cool short mapsets I can recommend are Preacher, Scythe X, Glaive and Glaive 2. You might also like the Darkening 2.

>>6879393
It's really not that bad, it mostly suffers from the problem of mixed map quality most old megawads like Memento Mori or Requiem had. But I'll agree it sure stinks when it shits the bed.

Playing through TNT myself atm, when it is good if feels amazing, really good techbases for the time, but when it is bad, yuk. A mixed bag but I'd err towards trying it over giving it a miss.

So, Alf is also the Contrarianfag Shilling WoW shadowlands at /v/ and /vg/ wowg general

>>6879459

PSX Final Doom is the definitive way to play TNT, because it's only the good levels.

>>6879542
>Quarry

>>6879542
>More levels from TNT and Master Levels than Plutonia
Are you sure about that?

Since doom 3 is retro now
here is one of the best shit ever made for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOcGvXUU4e0

>>6879576
I'm just going by what's on the Doom Wiki.

Just finished Blood. Tchernobog was a real pushover, hell I had the biggest problems with the stone gargoyle because he seemed to have like four times the health of the original one.

>>6879592
kino

>>6879654
What difficulty? I know on Well Done the gargoyle has like 1000 more hp than the version you fight at the end of episode 1.

>>6879595
Actually, I'm just a dumbass, I for some reason assumed that you meant it was the best way to play Final Doom in general, and were saying Plutonia has less good levels.

>>6879696
>I for some reason assumed that you meant it was the best way to play Final Doom in general, and were saying Plutonia has less good levels

>>6879506
It's the power of untreated Paranoid Schizophrenia.

Are you making "alf" into a generalized insult now?
Or are you trying to make it a forced meme?

>>6879542
>replaces TNT's sweet music with Hodge's boring-ass monotone noise
>leaves in some of the weaker levels to exclude the better ones
>fills out with the aggressively mediocre Master Levels
>tacks on the early levels of Plutonia at the end, before it really gets itself going, using its Map 05 as a complete anti-climax
Better it is not.

>>6879719
I'm not a fan of Wojaks but you're not wrong with that image.

ALF = Autistic Lobotomized Faggot

>>6877840
>damage numbers
WHY. I will never understand this obsession with information bloat.
>>6877901
I just beat it. The first few levels are good but it gradually gets worse the bigger the maps get. Not much thought was given to the flow and direction the player might take. It's got a lot of one way sections and a lot of it could have been fixed by gating the player or linearity.

>>6879879
what do you mean?

>>6877840
>sargeant

>>6877961
I do the same for trenchbroom

>>6878316
Hard to pick but I would have to say it's between map21 and map32.

>>6879542
It's missing Dead Zone, my favourite TNT level, so no.

>>6879879
I prefer CrosshairHP in the picrelatedcombination.
I have suggested a few times to make a mod that would show enemy HP on crosshair color instead of players HP (as such option exists). If I knew how I'd do it myself.

>>6876825
It's not the same at all. This just makes light be a colour. Like a red button will give off a red glow. So it's just the same shit already in Quake maps.

This is completely different to Quake 64 where they placed random coloured lights around to give off deep hues in rooms.

>>6877094
What sjw shit in Dredd comics? Other than the odd Muslim Judge here and there they don't pander particularly hard.

>>6877469
He means the 6 company logos. You can't skip that on switch.

>"Another nightdive remaster in KEX!"

>>6880102
Kex isn't even really an engine. It's just a framework to get input, audio, and visuals integrated for easy porting. The underlying code is still very much Doom 64.

>>6877126
>all of the fucking money went to Dredd, sjw policies and their garbage games of late.
>Even the author killed hershey because fuckery
whoa whoa whoa, back the fuck up, they did what now to dredd? killed hershey?
I'm caught up to about prog 2000ish, what has happened?

>>6879719

>>6880131
They "killed her" and went on to fuck with most of her legacy, mainly her family
Then she returns as a old hag "months" after her false death, but she is also sick and "dying" because of plot ex machina of her gazing into judge fear's face, which did nothing in the past to judges like her anderson or dredd.
Also She lost her arm and leg chasing a psychopath psychic using Judge Tier psychic hood, also the story itself is dead for now, after she killed the psycho, and all that is left is the new Cadet story with young dredd and rico + the Apocalypse stuff

also the stories are meh tier now, and rebellion is pandering to those retards of late due to britland going to hell, it feels like modern marvel and dc garbage.

>>6880049
but why? What exactly is it adding to the experience?

>>6880157
>what you just described
well I thought to be honest you might be over-exaggerating at first, you know, 4chan tendency to hyperbole
you weren't, and that has ruined my day. They massacred her.
Thanks for responding anyway, I did ask after all.
Sorry guys I know its a Doom thread, but I had to know.

>>6880163
When fighting big guys like fatsos or nobles - knowing that you can fire a rocket in their direction and immediately focus on another threat for example, rather than keep track whether they died from it or not

>>6880180
So it's making the game easier, got it.

>>6880187
>you have 3 rockets and Baron of hell in the distance
>Baron of hell previously took some beating from infighting
>fire rocket into the distance
>wait
>wait
>wait
>wait
>wait
>rocket hit, he's not dead
>fire second rocket
>wait
>wait
>wait
>wait
>He's dead

wow so hard
friggin hardcore
nothing compares to this

>>6880187

>>6880202
>>6880220
>when you're so mad that you're being exposed as a scrub that you have to samefag

>>6880230
its a quality of life feature not a scrub feature

>>6880230
>pointing out that you're stupid is samefagging
whatever you say buddy

>>6880236
>>6880240
Damn you're mad

>>6880242
I bet you play with a statusbar that shows HP scrub

>>6880254
I think you are confusing me with the other guy.

>>6879061
The kex remasters are usually perfectly fine, the blood one turned out bad because they rushed it out and signed a shitty contract that only let them support it for like a month.

>>6880265
no I'm not
git gud scrub

>>6880269
Everyone expected them to have the actual source so expectations were high
turns out ATARI didn't give them the code, which made the whole thing pointless

>>6880280
Does Atari even have the code?

>>6880280
>turns out ATARI didn't give them the code, which made the whole thing pointless
Are you shitting me? What are they even saving the code for?

>>6880242
I don't even play with a crosshair guy

>>6880312
With autoaim, crosshairs are unnecessary

>>6880292
>>6880296
IIRC code belongs to Jace Hall, and he still has it, but he can't release it in any way because that would be "distribution" and distribution rights are held by Atari, and Atari aren't intersted in acquiring the code at all, which leaves it dead to the world until Atari keels over, thus releasing it from the legal limbo.

>>6880320
>he's a scrub that has to use autoaim

Can you pistol start in Prboom+?

>>6880345
God I just wish death upon any corporate meddling scumbag piece of shit subhuman

>>6880368
Most probably just idiocy.
When companies get too big their "brains" become so much scattered around departments, they become stupid.
Probably some guy in legal department saw the letter about the code and went "What's this? Someone trying to sell us something we already own? What an idiot, sod off and decline!"

>>6880360
There's no way to force it upon entering a level, but you can bind a key to "restart current map", which you can find under Setup -> Key Bindings -> Misc.

>>6880360
You can in Choco and Crispy now using "-pistol". Theres a mod for GZDoom now as well.

>>6880180
eh i'm not the sperg shitposting about difficulty, so thanks for the reply. It's something I am interested in discussing and not shitposting or being elitist about.
>rather than keep track whether they died from it or not
But why would you want to keep track? To maybe save 1 rocket? Isn't part of the fun of a shooting/action game the unpredictable nature of combat? Surely the difference between you visually noticing something or the fight being so frantic that you miss something is part of the fun and attributes to the chaos and adrenaline of combat.
Seems unnecessary to rape the immersion in pursuit of efficiency.
Maybe i'm wrong but all of this information that action games freely hand out is a result of nearly all modern vidya into a skinnerbox. It's like all this "stealth" vidya that lets you just see enemies through walls. Looking at your screenshot, you've even got every enemy on a radar, which is practically the same thing. You're robbed of any surprise or anything unpredictable that could arise from the game naturally.
If I was to speculate, i'd say you play modern AAA games and you're addicted to Operant conditioning and as a result you're trying to import it into other games.

>>6880490
confirmed to have never played Heretic

>>6880490
how can someone misconstrue so much from so little

Should I feel bad that I've played every official variation of Doom, but haven't played Hexen, Heretic, or Strife?

>>6880535
yes

>>6880535
Yes

>>6880535
Play at least Heretic.
It's levels are IMO better than any vanilla Doom 1/2 levels
Enemies seem more spongy, but that's only because there are only 2 "fodder"enemies and those are rare and have non-fodder clones (Golem/Nitrogolem, Gargoyle/Fire Gargoyle)

>>6880559
>>6880590
>>6880594
What's the definitive way to play them?

>>6880604
Gzdoom

>>6880606
Real answers only, please.

>>6880612
I mean there are Chocolate versions of each games (straight ports of the DOS versions like Chocolate Doom, resolution and all). But besides that GZDoom is the best choice.

>>6880612
Crispy/Chocolate Heretic and ZDoom derivatives are the only ways to play Heretic these days.
Unless you count Doomsday or Vavoom which you shouldn't.

GZDoom is fine unless you can't be bothered to set it up right once, want demos or are anal about having 100% authentic experience

I find that brightmaps and dynamic lights add to the experience

>>6880535
Yes.
also does someone knows what happened to the hexen and heretic lightmap and pbr upscale pack from doomsday to gzdoom, that shit blends well with serpent resurrection and HUMP, and it made some stuff creepy as fuck

what's the latest version of project msfix'd? i have 1.0b but i was wondering if there was a version i missed

>>6878806
>Hell, I'd pay for Ashes 2063
Same, great aesthetic, great soundtrack, level design was clean AF. One of the best conversions i've played. Pretty pumped for this https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612 (should be in news IMO)>>6879289

>Why do people hate fireblue so much?
Is there any examples of it being used it in a creative way? Even as an accent?

>>6880709
I could see it being use for a burning crystal cave or something. As an exterior texture, it's kinda dumb looking.

>>6880612
IIRC there is Chocolate Heretic, Chocolate Hexen, Chocolate Strife, Crispy Heretic, Crispy Hexen, and Crispy Strife. Heretic and Hexen used to be playable from Chocolate Doom and Crispy Doom the same way that GZDoom can play all the IWADs. I don't know why they were branched out into their own source ports. Chocolate Heretic is its own source port, but to use Crispy Heretic, you need Crispy Doom; you place the crispy-heretic executable inside the Crispy Doom folder.

One great thing about Chocolate/Crispy is that it can play the SC-55 music packs:
> http://sc55.duke4.net/games.php#heretic
You need to unzip the files into a folder such as "C:\Games\Doom\Music-Packs" then edit the .cfg files of each source port to look for the music packs in that folder. You will also need to download and place the music pack's configuration files inside that folder as well. The download link for that is on the right-hand side of the page linked above. For your convenience, this is the download page for the music pack configuration files - https://github.com/chocolate-doom/music-packs . Click on the green box that says "Code" and select "Download as ZIP" and extract the contents into the folder. Everything should look like pic related when done.

Here is a how-to guide on setting it up if you need more help: https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Digital_music_packs

>>6880650
>only ways
You're forgetting DOSBox. You need the original executables in order to run the game through DOSBox, however. Here is a download link with dozens of games:
> https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
The download is over 1 gig and most of the games you will not play but this download is still handy because it contains the original DOS executables for Heretic, Hexen, and Duke 3D. It also has the original executables for Quake, Blood, and Doom, but for those games, it's better to get the GOG versions; the GOG Quake DOS download comes with the original music, unlike this download, and the GOG Blood download comes with the movies, unlike this download, and you can configure DOS Blood to play the MIDIs instead of the CD music.

If you go the DOS route, I recommend you copy-paste the folder from this download into a new folder, such as C:\DOSGames\Duke3D , and run the game through a fork of DOSBox called "DOSBox pixel-perfect" because this fork contains integer scaling, which looks great. Hopefully you can figure out how to run the game through the DOSBox fork by analyzing how the DOSpack is configured. Basically, just copy-paste the configuration file from the DOS Anon pack into your DOSBox pixel-perfect folder, and learn how to launch the game through DOSBox. You can have DOSBox automatically mount the appropriate drive by typing the commands at the end of the DOSBox configuration file. To learn more about how to launch games through DOSBox watch videos on youtube. These are the commands at the very end of my config file:
>mount D: D:\
>D:
And from there I type
>cd duke3d
>duke3d
Or whichever game I want to play

>>6880835
Dosbox is same as Chocolate, but worse
it doesn't count

we 3d now (again)

>>6880857
make it 6 DOF

>>6874931
>broodal dewm
but if you’re looking for gameplay conversions uuuuuh demonsteele and treasure tech are really fun

i’d recommend looking through https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=43&sid=9004de435173be52652c6e8a46eed21b

>>6880857
When you have a fully textured area, you should record a fly through of it on VHS and put really 90's sounding rock music in the background along with text that details a bunch of technobabble features that your engine is supposedly capable of pulling off.

>>6880876
that would mean no texturing

>>6880890
yeah i was talking with a friend about how i should do something like the bit at the beginning of red zone as a joke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwZErWZXRh0

>>6880857
Cool.

>>6880890
>>6880901
"You heard of Blast processing? Prepare to witness the never before seen HyperBlast Processing!"
"Two times more pixels per texel, or your money back!"
"Full vector scaling!"
"Real explosions! With real explosives prepackaged with your cartridge!"
"If you die in game, you die in real life! So realistic!"

>>6880919
>This game will put your ass - ON BLAST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIVqtGdjXPw

>>6880857
That's 3-D!

>>6880884
I think he's making a jest about the latest Australian-who fuck up video. Where he described Brutal Doom as a "simple mod".

>>6880958
I am glad I don't watch youtubers.

>>6880964
You don't watch youtube?

>>6880857
Ahhh, babby's first raycast engine. I'm proud of you lad.

>>6880970
I sometimes watch music videos of old songs I don't have on my computer, but I don't watch people whose job description is "content creator".

>>6879393
dude

>>6880985
Watch some doom.

>>6880981
no raycasting, like doom it's projecting the world-space map coordinates to screen coordinates. Also, this is version 2, I posted videos of the previous version here. (It had bsp traversal, texturing, and lighting, but was kinda hacky and slow)

Watching demos of speedruns is fascinating.

>>6880981
It's actually at least his 2nd.

>>6880919
>If you die in game, you die in real life!
Where do I pre-order?

>>6880535
I don't enjoy Hexen or Heretic myself but they're still worth a shot if you've never played them

>>6881016
post the first vid now I'm curious

>>6874506
>>6874458
>>6874510
what fucking newfag here doesnt know what a fucking SP is. seriously i expect this cancer on /v/ but not on here. what the hell.

>>6880901
Jokes aside Red Zone is allowed to be all in your face with that text bit, the sega wizardy that devs did for all that stuff is incredible.

What's the most current recommended version of Doom Builder?

>>6880931
you forgot to link >>6873981
but holy shit this is kino!

>>6881114
UDB

So what are some good wads I can play on Crispy? I already beat alien vendetta.

been playing ancient aayys and eviternity but neither work on crispy for being boom format

>>6881054
it was a series of videos over a period of probably a year, here's one of the last ones i took before starting a new engine

>>6881087
new engine will have enough tricks for it to be allowed i think, but I wouldn't want to force everyone to have to skip through that every time just for a joke

>>6881139
i remember playing around with the genesis color palette when you did that.
>pic is still on my desktop
I gotta format this fuckin thing.

>>6881162
keep in mind, i have a 16-color limit, but each texel is basically a pair of 4bpp pixels, so you can get free dithering.

>>6881171
that could be 16 colors per map though, right? So you would have a base 8 colors for weapons, enemy sprites and general theme, and then every map could get it's own one or two accent color range. 8 or 4...

That's how I'd do it anyway, if possible. Don't know a lot about genesis dev.

>>6881116
Is there an upscale or high res texture pack for the default Q2 weapons anywhere that's not just awkwardly blanketed in with a larger pack?

>>6881131
Scythe

>>6880857
It's great to see you're still playing around with this shit.

>>6881191
already played that and 2, but thanks for the suggestion

>>6881189
Nah, the map geometry would have it's own 16-color palette, hud/hand/weapon sprites would also have it's own palette.

I'm going to try to use sprites for enemies/objects, so they can use two palettes of their own (each 8x8 tile would be restricted to one palette though, so I think using 2 palettes, and each object/enemy restricted to one of those two palettes, or maybe reusing the HUD palette, would be best).

>>6880931
>no muzzeflashes
What's the point?

>>6881207
minor correction, palettes are 15-colors (entry 0 is always transparent and shows the next lower priority layer, or the background color)

>>6881207
Okay, well hell, that makes things easier even.

>>6881190
Use this and the neural pack, rename the pak file into something like pak4 or pakweap
https://www.mediafire.com/file/3587uk6qcwymdvk/osjcq2skins.zip/file
https://github.com/Calinou/quake2-neural-upscale

as for monsters and player skins, use the Duo maxwell stuff on moddb

>>6873978

>>6881247
isn't this a CTF map for zand?

>>6881237
the shotgun would've looked so much better without that stupid carry handle

>>6879393
Burned from the grave
Where my ghostposters at?

>>6879393

You fucking retard Ty Halderman passed away years ago, plus there is no way I could come back from the dead just to post on this shitty thread.

>>6881331
>plus there is no way I could come back from the dead just to post on this shitty thread.
>I could come back
>I

First map down, what next?

>>6881252
Which one?

>>6881368
lmao

>>6881331
>I

>>6881237
Guess retexture mods won't work with the reanimation pack, probably have to bake the textures into the models or something. Oh well, thanks, i'm setting up a Q2 folder, and remembering that Xatrix are huge dickholes in level design and seemingly not waypointing most of their hitscanners solely so that they turret-shoot you the moment they see you.

>>6881368
No offense but it looks like shit. Look at how the maps in Doom 1 and try to make something on that level visually. It isnt hard with modern editors and a little effort.

>>6881421
>xatrix and rogue using the Enemies and Q2 enviroment Right unlike id software
i see that someone was filtered