/vr/ - Retro Games

Has nobody played it? I was under the impression it was somewhat popular. It has gotten good ratings across the board.

Just installed it to be ready for my 10 hour session of this game. Going in almost blind, but I like that they are already asking me to fax them things.

Enjoy your point 'n click.

I want to like these types of RPGs but the interface is such a turn off.

>>684473
I played Icewind Dale II and got about halfway through the game by being lucky as shit. I never understood the levelling system and couldn't even figure out how to use the magic my mage character had.

I know that there must be a way but I was fairly young at the time and couldn't be damned to read the instructions. Take your time, OP. If it's like the second one, character creation is important to look into because you can create hybrid classes that can be useless unless you know what you're doing.

>>684505
I will get back to you about the interface tomorrow bright and early

>>684513
I will keep that in mind. I usually create a human barbarian type inRPGs, but as I understand this is a party based game, so I will try and keep it all balanced.

>>684525
Try and find a copy of the manual online. I have the manual here for the second game, but for some reason I can't find the discs.

The manual is 156 pages, so there's a lot to learn.

>>684536
I have it new in box. I got a bunch of unopened PC games at a yard sale for $10 and this is one of them

>>684546
And I can't read. Enjoy the game

>>684552
I sure hope to! Thank you

i've played all the way through the original icewind dale and thought it was fantastic. i've played most of icewind dale II and it was much better. you're in for a really enjoyable experience if this kind of game is your thing.

I tried Icewind Dale long ago, but the godawful pathfinding my party members had made it too painful for me to get very far.

Ok. I am about to get into it. 10 hours. Completely blind.

Also, the W in IceWind looks like boobs.

It's called the infinity engine. IWD is a straight up dungeon crawler, with a heavy dose of atmosphere. The music is amazing.

As far as tips goes, ranged weapons and area of effect spells are your friends early in the game.

>>685757
So I should make sure to have a mage and a ranger in my party then. I am creating my party right now. First is a fighter

Is there any reason why I shouldn't create an all female party with a grizzled old man leading them?

Saucy concubines for lyfe.

>>685835
Its your play through, do what you like.

>>685840
I just didn't know if there were any hidden gender bonuses.

Cool. Concubine party it is.

>>685835
>Steiner
>Garnet
Final Fantasy IX fan?

>>685856
Yeah. It is my favorite in the series. This is generally how I go about naming characters in RPGs, I name my party leader, Hyde and make him a grizzled old man, and then the rest of the party is named after characters from my favorite games, comics, and movies.

>>685852
Nada, unlike Baldur's Gate, there isn't an awful lot of plot and dialog. Icewind Dale puts a lot of emphasis on combat and such.

Also, I'm going to say this; earlygame in AD&D style games, ranged weapons are king. Also, learn to use autopause. It will save your life. And save often, it's not uncommon to get slaughtered a few times on the goblins near the town. In fact, it's to be expected.

>>685862
How do I autopause. I read in the manual you can hit space to pause and make it more like a turn-based game

>>685878
>How do I autopause.

you hit space.

>>685910
Cool. I didn't know if they were different things or not.

Ok, an hour in party formation isn't bad, thats how long you SHOULD be in character create in any RPG in my opinion.

>>685926

Auto pause is a different feature. Go into options when you are in the game, and select game play stuff.

>>685878
Check the options menu, there's a bunch of game options in there that will smooth things out.

>>683884
Icewind Dale is more heavily combat focused than the other infinity engine games. Since this goes by ADnD rules, there's a few things you should know.

*Trolls can ONLY be killed with fire or acid damage. (So bring lots of fire oil for Dragon's Eye)
*THAC0 means "To hit Armor Class 0." That means that if your THAC0 is 15, then you need to roll 15 to hit an enemy with an AC of 0.
*Low AC is better, try to get it below 0. For every point below 0, add 1 to the THAC0 roll, and for every point above 0, subtract one from the THAC0 roll.
*So if your THAC0 is 10, then you would only need to roll 7 if the enemy's AC is 3. Likewise, you would need to roll 13 if the enemy's AC is -3.
*Wizards are fucking amazing later on, and total shit early. Towards the end of the game you'll probably be opening doors, throwing Cloudkill into a room, then closing the door.
*Thieves that can detect traps and pick locks are very valuable, but not necessarily needed with a decent enough wizard.
*SAVE whenever you try to write a scroll into your wizard's spellbook; the writing can fail and some spells only appear once.

>>685987
Ok, I my party consists of 2 fighters, a ranger, a cleric, a mage, and a thief.

Mostly well rounded.

>This looks to be a hybrid somewhat of a traditional JRPG like Etrian Odyssey or SMT, and a top down arpg like Diablo.

>>685862

>emphasis on combat

>>685860

>Final Fantasy IX fan?
>Yeah. It is my favorite in the series.

Holy shit, this thread.

>>686021
>>686028
>>686034
Can you just reduce your shit to a single post?

So yeah, I go to buy some shits and this jew is like "Ey Barbarian. You look like a barabarian." So I am all like. Fuck you Jew.

Then I bought his wares.
Dem Jews.

>>686021
>>686028
>>686034
Thanks for bumping my thread 3 times.

>>686057

>Fuck you Jew.

>>686065
>>686034
>>686028
>>686021
I think you're looking for /v/

>>686065
no u

But I see how this game is more "combat oriented" than others already. It has just about no plot. It is more like a typical table top game, where it is a quest for some fuckin loot, instead of your typical video game with apocalyptic consequences. Thats just so far though.

>>686057
they should have saged there

I fucking love that game. You are in for a good time if you liked BG2

Combat is omnipresent but there is a fair bit of story and a few puzzle that can be hard. Dialogues are also fucking fun. Just another heads up, make sure you have different damage type. If you dont have crushing weapon at some points you may regret it, same with slashing.

Anyway, enjoy, keep the music up, it's my go to for snowy day (and i live in northern Canada, so listen to it very very often)

>>686132

They drop you litterally in the middle of things, but it's not only that., Also, the game as a LOT of humor in it if you do bizarre shit. (hint: walking around ith a dead cat in your bag is not considered normal human behavior)

>>686139
Ive noticed that the music is pretty nice. I like the combat music so far.

>>686154

The hole game is nice. The only thing missing is party banter, but that's to be expected

>>686132
IWD has plenty of plot, it just isn't forced on you like other games.

>>683884

never played baldur's gate op? it's the same thing, but more combat and less story. both are great games.

do a balanced party. warrior, mage, cleric, rogue and any fifth wheel you want. if you know D&D you should be well. but keep in mind that it's AD&D, not 3.x. (but IWD2 is 3.0)

pause like a mother fucker. micromanage. always look closely at your party HP, use your rogue to scout with stealth, look for traps.

ah. and if you like the forgotten realms setting, you're in for a threat!
there's lots and lots of delicious realms lore tidbits in these games. like most magic itens have a neat little story

ah. and if you like the forgotten realms setting, you're in for a treat!
there's lots and lots of delicious realms lore tidbits in these games. like most magic itens have a neat little story

So now I am pretty much trying to find the best way to come at these goblins. I don't want to lose half my party in the first encounter, but they keep killing all my magic users in one hit.

Should I just send my barbs in?

>>686382
I fuckin did it, and only my mage took any damage at all. I had my barbs go straight in while my ranger, theif, mage, and cleric ambushed them from a ridge.

>>686434
>6 hp
>4 hp
>8 hp
Better restart now before you have to redo too much.

>>686461
is that bad for magic users and a thief? I find by Barb died in that encounter more than any of them.

>>686485

Constitution si ALWAYS good in DnD, Hp ar eusefull when you don't know the game, gives you leeway to experiment

>>686545
Is there any way to respec?

>>686485
You should never use a pure classed thief or mage in the first place.
A multi-classed fighter/thief already starts with 11 hp with 18 con and will always have high enough thief skills.
For the mage start him as a human fighter and dual class to a mage at level 3. He will have 24 hp more and can use bows (with 3 weapon profency points) at the cost of only 4000 exp.

Always make sure you have 18 con with every character that has at least one level as either a fighter, paladin and ranger. Other characters only need 16 con but should never have less.

>>686596
See OP? This is what I meant earlier when I said reading into character creation was important. This is why I just got luck and made it halfway through the second game.

>>684513

You *can* do this in Icewind Dale 1, but it is harder than in 2, due to the rule changes between AD&D 2.5 (which Icewind Dale 1 uses, IIRC) and 3rd edition (which ID2 uses).

>>686434
Another good idea is for every party member to have a ranged weapon of some kind, even if it's just a sling. Hit them a bit from afar then switch to melee.

>>686763
Well, I should have listened. I have respecced my entire party, and have no pure thieves mages or clerics any more, all have a decent amount of HP except Ramona, but she does alright.

I am all caught up and should be good to go now. My boss came in to do some paperwork, but now I am good to play the rest of the day.

>>684473
Some Atari computer game I was playing a few days ago, when I asked for a hint, told me to mail a letter to the studio.

>>683884

It always bothers me that infinity engine games weren't strictly turn-based.

>>686136

>fucking toadying Asian politeness

Fuck that shit

>>687369
It would make more sense if it were turn based. It is still fun this way, you just have to make your own turns.

>>687402

I have trouble with RPGs that aren't turn-based. Like, trouble with even thinking of them AS RPGs. I think the world thinks they're beyond it, which is sad.

>>687478
I like turn based games, and action rpgs. I don't have much trouble with either, but you are right, people seem to think that turn based games are somehow dirty and that they are above such things, when in fact, turn based games often require more strategy and planning.

So after about 9 hours, about 7 of which were actual playing and tweaking characters, I have come to the conclusion that this is a very good RPG. It has a lot of soul and detail, and it is like a nordic RPG that I actually want to play more of, unlike that other nordic RPG.

I just got into more serious dungeon crawling, so I think I will play a lot more tomorrow.

>>687941

Im taking that you aren't a native english speaker

>>690162

Why would you come to that conclusion?