/vr/ - Retro Games

aye, fug generals
for me, its Racing Battle: C1 Grand Prix, Juiced (which has the evilest difficulty curve and physics ive seen so far, a good atmosphere and a surprisingly nice licensed soundtrack) and SSX3 (it counts as racing, right?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9owO4GYrq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XrVcHQzZA

If we're going to have a racing thread, start with the OG

Tokyo xtreme racer is all that matters

Damn, guess /vr/ doesn’t care about racing anymore

Is any of the 16 bit consoles good for racing games? I know Outrun (2019), Top Gear, fzero and Rock n Roll Racing. Anything else worth mentioning?

>>6799765
Genesis has road rash and rock n roll racing and snes has rock n roll racing, f zero, and mario kart. Both have super off road i think. Avoid any pc engine racing, they’re all bad

Grand Prix 500 for DOS

>>6799834
Looks like like hang on with better graphics

wacky wheels, I played it like crazy as a kid because we had knock off nintendo and no mario kart. Loads of fun. I have also been looking for a racing game from my childhood. I know it was on a home computer. Open wheel, very early 3d graphics. Cockpit view and the track might have had loop de loops, not sure, it was definitely similar to a rollercoaster if that makes sense but I was very young. This would have been around 1994-1996

>>6799937
It looks like this crappy jaguar game called atari karts

>>6799937
>Open wheel
what do you mean? One game i can think of that had loop de loop is Stunts

>>6799937
Stunt Car Racer?

>>6799965
Like indycar probably

>>6799965
From what I remember it was like f1? Maybe indy car but I am unsure if it was actually from those disciplines or just something similar, also I checked out stunts, the road on the game I played had the red white alternating pieces that ends up making that flashing effect as you race.
>>6799979
unfortunately not

>>6799592
>>6799736
>>6799765
>>6799470
discord. gg/BdUydNa

Bump

>>6799329
Top Gear 2 is easily the most fun I've ever had with a 2D racing game and the best racing game on the SNES.

>>6801679
I prefer the real Lotus games over the Top Gear ports. And the original Lotus game at that. On the Amiga as the original platform, of course. Best 2D scaling racer ever made, IMO.

But you're right in that Top Gear is the best racing series on SNES. MK is great fun, but it's not really a racing game.

This was the best racing sim on the PC in the 90s.

>>6799329
I remembering playing Top Gear at my cousin's house. The game if I remember correctly was hard. Harder than any other racing game that wasn't F-Zero at the time.

>>6801679
We had both 1 and 2. 2 was better

>>6802856
I would say MK is more of a racing game than its contemporaries. As a kart racer it does demand more skillful driving, whereas later games in the genre rely way too much on items, as they're overpowered.

How the fuck do I learn manual

>>6803368
Look at the speedometer, and remember what your speed looks like when you gear shift.

>>6803379
what a terrible advice

>>6803368
memorize the track and learn what gears work best where

>>6803564
what's bad about that? shifting up too early's going to fuck your acceleration.

>OLAF SCORES A FIRST PLACE KNOCKOUT!

>>6803574
sorry i didn't even get what you meant by that. i guess you mean to take note of your acceleration rate so you know when it's too low and you need to downshift?
>>6803368
i'm no expert myself, i only play manual when the game requires me too (few sims). so once again i provide my amateur advice in hopes of an expert come and correct me :)
but i know the thing is pretty simple, watch your revs or just listen to the sound of the engine, upshift on the optimal spot, for a casual play that would be the same spot for every gear, and downshift at the same revs too. downshifting happens pretty quick tho so you know the number of gears to go down by intuition i guess. optimal spot is usually the red line but you need to look it up for every particular game, and there are in-depth irl guides which can be useful for sims.
there's one arcade game where i played manual too. test drive 5 on psx, and not all the game but only the masters cup. it's brutal and it requires you to use a new car every race. and muscle cars' automatic transmission in that game is awful, like in real life i guess. it downshifts so early while the optimal spot is on the limiter. so manual is even quicker than using auto jump glitch.

>>6799937
stunts?

This garage smells like cat piss

>>6803224
nope
GP Legends was

>>6804093
legend says slides were unrecoverable there
couldn't attest otherwise

>>6804150
>legend says slides were unrecoverable there
and that's a good thing

this one was on pc and saturn too,I think .

kart fever in after 1999

best F1 title, at least on psx

>>6804418
even forgetting about the fact it's unrealistic, just look how they slide in the irl footage in the intro of that game
how is it fun?

the first GT good graphics and OST.

>>6804443
Yep, although the PC version cut the car numbers to 16.

I'm annoyed the alternate versions of the tracks couldn't be played in practice mode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFMzFthGHkc

F1 ROC: Race of Champions ("Exhaust Heat" in Europe) for SNES was amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkpJnEuOKfY

>>6799937
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0JzpjINeE0

>>6799937
>Open wheel, very early 3d graphics. Cockpit view and the track might have had loop de loops, not sure, it was definitely similar to a rollercoaster if that makes sense but I was very young.
Stunt Car Racer?

>>6804457
>GP Legends
Was there any franchise that didn't have cart racer back then?

>>6799937
F1?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNAGQUfcjQ4

Soundtrack was great. The only gripe I had was 3rd person felt like dog shit compared to being in 1st person. Tuning was easy.

>>6803919
>>6805741
>>6805761
No unfortunately not

>>6804443

>>6806024
It isn't until RR4 (and that is a stretch) that the external view isn't just a noob trap.

Made this for a NFS thread on /v/ and thought it fit.

This one as well. The last few threads we've had as made me take a ton of screenshots and make a few webms - admittedly mostly of the old school NFS games because I play them a lot.

twisted metal count as racing game?

>>6806502
TM3+4 shouldn't even count as games.

Only 1 and 2 are good?

>>6806502
How come TM4 always attracts the pinoys? I've never met a TM4 fan that can speak good english.

>>6806535
Nah, there were other good ones too, it's just that 3 isn't especially good, and 4 fucking sucks.

>>6805275
Whoa, the music in this reminds me of Dragon Ball Z Hyper Dimension. Same composer?

https://is2.4chan.org/wsg/1598894748212.webm

Fuck I need to learn how to do cross board links. Lets see if this works. >>3604583

>>6806591
A good question since it's by far the worst of the original PS1 releases. Maybe it was the only one released over there?

>>6807506
>>>/wsg/3604583

that intro is kino

>>6807527
shit, forgot to quote >>6807474

>>6807506
Fuck it I will just stick to being extra retarded.


https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1598895067087.webm

>>6806535
There's Twisted Metal Black, Head-On, Head-On ETE, and 2012. We don't talk about Small Brawl.

This blew my mind 20 years ago and even today it looks good.

>>6808304
same with mobil 1 rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLdyv-YM_ig

still has a quality physics engine 20 years later

>>6807550
Without spaces:
> > > /board_name/ 123456789

For example, here:
>>>/gif/17791720

>>6808332
fuck's sake

>>6799528
>og
>8th game in series
What

>>6808332
An interesting choice for the example to be sure there boyo.

The best way to play Street Racer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imon8VLxAV8

>>6801679
Same. I'm too good at it, though, so my bro never wants to play it.

>>6808337
>>6808447
Just linked to the first random thing that came to mind, but I'm glad you're enjoying themselves boys.

Not played this game in years and last time I couldn't get the PC version to work properly (buttons stopped responding at end of races so I was fucked for continuing).

>>6808823
but this isn't megadrive

>>6808890
what a concurrence, anon asked how to operate the stick above

I don't enjoy Demolition Racer, what are your thoughts?

>>6809717
It's OK, I guess. Track designs are superb but the way the cars handle is a bit... shit.

>>6807104

I had to look it up but, no, different people.

>>6799329
top gear snes probably had the best soundtrack of any snes game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqZN8E0h1M&list=PLkog_NvP2P1IMT2h6i_pTZFv-JW1dkqwd&index=4

>>6799329
>sim
gt3, sega gt 2002
>atypical setting
san francisco rush 2049, f zero, wave race, one of the hot wheels ones on playstation but I can never remember which one, also hyper sonic xtreme for the level editor more games should have adopted
>2d but feels 3d
pole position, super hang on
>more arcade than sim
ridge racer, daytona, test drive(especially offroad 2)
>cart
diddy kong racing, whacky racers

I never really cared for racing games but I played those a lot.

>>6810569
also forgot tokyo extreme racer and wipeout.

Why is Gran Turismo called a sim? I can drift like fucking ridge racer and take no damage from hits? Maybe that’s why I like it

>>6810458
Original version here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtamV6wnQbs&list=PLNCGGTa6GvL5-Q6EyQ_30460yy6W7Melp

>>6810853
really just approach to gameplay, you couldn't make a proper racing sim with the hardware limitations back then. too much involved with physics and memory.

>>6810853
You can’t drift like Ridge Racer, you’re going to hit a wall eventually.

>>6810458
>Pwah pwah pwah tut pwah

>>6811057
>what is GP legends

>>6812508
Not a console game.

Why does GT3 get so much praise? I think it’s the weakest of the currently retro GT games

>>6812508
Didn't Grand Prix 2 have damage too?

>>6812746
yes

>>6804457
This game was surprisingly great with all those missions with different objectives and unlockable shit.

>>6799329
Since this is /vr/ I can't bitch about how there are literally no non-simulation bike racing games in the modern era, the best is actually Driveclub and PGR4. But back on topic, please recommend me some /vr/ bike racing games that are not real world circuit snooze fests like Moto GP.

>>6808347
Final Fantasy started at 7

>>6812847
You've posted Moto Racer 2 so you obviously know about that series. Motocross Madness maybe?

>>6812847
If TT Isle of Man is borefest to you there's literally Ride series and don't forget very arcadey Motorcycle Club.
So back on topic, an iso of an unreleased Test Drive Cycles for Dreamcast recently surfaced.
>>6812868
From the looks of he isn't aware of Moto Racer 4 existence.

>>6813135
MR4 was shit, apparently.

comfy ChoroQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0KxQAwMrCs

>>6812849
Sorry everyone knows it's goes FF1 then FF9 and those are the only two games in the series

>>6814350
what series? didn't know there were a series

You DO play Polyphony Digital's best game right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxD9xh1h-uU

>>6815082
This

Ridge Racer type 4 oozes SOUL. If it had more tracks and a longer carreer, it would be one of the best racing games

>>6815462
>Ridge Racer type 4 oozes SOUL
Well of course - it was explicitly designed for it. RR4 is the racing version of smooth jazz.

>>6816364
Stop.

Listen to this to potentially grasp the error of your ways.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UH_tq5EONQ

>>6816402
you stop
if 3 and 4 are average games 1 and 2 are kusoge

Any really bad retro racing games you've played? inb4 YOU'RE WINNER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxnR_7BtI-4

This was bad even for a budget title. It was released in 2006 yet it has graphics of something from 5 years before.

>>6817608
circuit beat, the debut of prismarts, creators of rally de africa and rally de europe
it's a shameless ridge racer clone and unlike its successors its awful in every aspect
don't mind the misaligned hud, it's because of the widescreen hack. this might be the only game i seen where this hack works because there's no effective viewing frustum culling

>>6817608
it doesn't look bad on the video honestly

>>6817771
I thought that first time I watched it. Played it... oh dear.

One of the circuits has a glitch which puts you back a position at a certain point.

>>6817758
Used to watch my dad play this one back in the day, the intro theme is like burnt into my head

>>6817783
>puts you back a position at a certain point
now this shit is hilarious
>>6817784
a kusoge import, your dad was one serious gamer

>>6816402
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orqkWBnS5s4

>>6817830
The worst thing about Jet Moto is that there is no definitive Jet Moto game between 1, 2, and 2 CE. Rom hack when

>>6799329
>you may be missing some of the benefits that stereo can provide

>>6804443
>DD1
>not the far superior sequel

>>6817758
The Rally De games are awesome. Europe's OST is bland compared to Africa though.

>>6818857
The a.i cheats like a motherfucker so it isn't flat out better.

>>6808447
This reminds me, why did about every racing game in the PSX/N64 era have those timed checkpoints?

>>6818206
here we go now

>>6817808
>now this shit is hilarious
I'm making it sound far more impressive than it is. What actually happens is the on screen display will tick down from "POSITION: 1" to "POSITION: 2" for no apparent reason. I think it's because the track in question has a crossover so the game gets confused remembering where your car is.

>>6801679
>>6802856
Seconding Lotus.

Lotus II and III are available on Genesis as Lotus and Lotus II.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBgzirdnQto

>>6820175
only early psx games had them. replicating the arcade experience i guess.
>>6819094
tribal drum and bass, good stuff indeed
>>6820313
ah i thought is stays that way till the finish. i guess it's just typical checkpoints then, although invisible ones usually are close to each other and rarely cause glitches.
>>6820202
megadrive mix of the title theme is real jam https://youtu.be/OQXYhWEymqI?t=0

>>6820709
>ah i thought is stays that way till the finish. i guess it's just typical checkpoints then, although invisible ones usually are close to each other and rarely cause glitches.
I forgot to mention that actually happens if you don't overtake another car. You finish the race 2nd even if you actually won it. Dreadful lack of QA on it.

>>6820717
then my initial reaction remains

is this good?

I've been playing Project Gotham Racing 2 and I've honestly been having more fun with it than I did MSR on the Dreamcast. I think it might be a case where I'm just worse at the latter though, which I definitely am. Does MSR just click better at some point because I was struggling with the handling a bit. It bums me out because I know people love the game.

This game looks really appealing to me. What's the consensus on Outrun? Whats the best version to play?

I loved a SNES racing game where different characters had powers like hitting the racer on your side with a baseball bat, or flying a short distance with a magic carpet.
It also had a fun mini game where you played soccer on your cars. I spent dozens of hours on this alone.
I think it was called Street Racer or something.

>>6821779
Street racer had a PS1 version that was also shit. Another game in that overall style was wreckin' crew which was....okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRUoEgNvZGI

>>6821209
MSR is great but very easy to cheese, with a joker you can rack up 2-3k per hot lap thanks to the fact there’s no time limit

>>6820835
What the fuck, I thought it was on Amiga only. This belongs to weird ports thread, but maybe it is not that weird.
On topic, it was mediocre.

Fuck does dgvoodoo give me an erection hard enough to cut glass. Playing these old classics at modern resolutions is awesome.

>>6821869
Yeah I'm not praising it as a racing game. I preferred Top Gear (specially 3000)
However it was still a fun hidden gem for me.

>>6799592
Drift 2 was the best

>>6812847
I'm assuming you've already played Tourist Trophy?

>>6812508
Even a pc game couldn't simulate everything accurately, let alone some shitbox with 2 megs of ram

>>6822446
I would categorize this as a sim-ish real life circuit bike game, but yes I have. It's a dream that it's basically a two wheel version of GT4, but I have a huge issue with the arrangement and flow of the game. It feels like to unlock/"buy" bikes, you have to do its associated challenge which is basically a cat and mouse duel challenge which is not only frustrating but also really boring. The meat of the game I don't even remember. The best "feeling" modern bike games I can praise right now goes to PGR4, Burnout Paradise, and Driveclub. Looking for alternatives particularly /vr/ ones, of course. I also love pic related.

>>6822394
Best in the series. The master level races are bullshit hard though.

>>6822475
Road rash had an awesome soundtrack - anything with rusty cage and outshined on it is great.

>>6822157
Not high resolution but enhanced enough.

>>6821539
it kicks ass and is the best game in the world except maybe Space Harrier... search for the PC port called Canonball, it is accurate to the original but also adds modern options. the M2 ports for Nintendo systems are also nice.

>>6799329
>/vr/ will never get together in a server for comfy goldsrc racing

>>6822535
What game?

>>6822565
SCUD Race

Can someone explain why Gran Turismo 3 feels tedious and very rewarding at the same time?

>>6803695
this and biker mice from mars were my favorites

>>6822535
What is the best way to play scud race? With 90's arcade racer being turbodead I really should get my fix from the original gangsters.

>>6822575
Due to them un-americanifying it compared to 3 the slower pace of the game rewards precision far more than the older titles and with it being a very smooth game that is where that feeling comes from.

>>6822646
Look up Supermodel 3, you're knocking down SCUD Race, Sega Rally 2 and Daytona 2 in one go

>>6822575
GT3 is awesome because it's NOT tedious, other than the first few dumb races like taking a Yaris or PT Cruiser through an oval. GT3 doesn't have a gorillion cars so they don't need to give you garbage as prize cars like GT4. Every event and license test prize car feel more or less important.

>>6822575
Because you can’t cheese it, so when you win it feels good, though it takes time to get good. It’s the most simmy of all the gt games

>>6822562
shit i gotta play this
>>6822157
there's a version of this game that come with one particular graphics card that combines all the 3 track into single one, does anyone have it?

>>6823145
The mod comes with bots, but they're absolutely broken on certain maps. However the one in my screenshot they work just barely functional and it's somewhat uncanny to see like 20 shit for brains bots try to haul through the snow and attempt to take corners.

>>6822535
love that style.

Bump

>>6822567
Specifically it's SCUD Race Plus, with its super beginner track involving toy cars.

>>6824356
I can’t tell if this looks good or shitty

>>6822535
Redpill a scrub on Model 3 emulation, anon.

>>6824551
a mix between.

>>6822394
fuck I forgot about that

Almost didn't make it.

>>6826438
nice graphics

>>6799528
based

>>6826438
Reminds me formula fusion is releasing (again) in a week or so.

>>6826821
Bump

>>6826821
why's the GUI stretched

>>6827078
'Cuz it annoys people on /v/ and I don't care to fix it.

>>6827078
because that's how the game works without mods

>>6815462
I just wish the last career race was a bit better. Shooting Hoops is kind of boring (being just a big oval) and I'd have loved for it to be a Le Mans style circuit with the New Year's fireworks lighting up the entirety of the last lap instead of just before the finish line only.

>>6827687
oh man i need more of these

>>6827687
>>6828013
RR4 is the best visual novel i've ever played.

james bond racing, what they were thinking?

>>6828382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI7R-Irk3-8

why does this exist

>>6810569
>>6812676
So many people seem to prefer GT3 over GT4 and I can't figure out why for the life of me. GT4 is strictly better as far as I'm concerned.

>>6810853
Whether GT is worthy of being called a sim is a subject of debate in simracing circles, but the aspect that would justify it is that it generally rewards driving in the same way as is fastest in real life. Damage modelling is of secondary importance because you're not supposed to crash.

>>6829139
It’s a sim but on the lighter side which is more fun anyway. I don’t see how anyone can enjoy stuff like iracing

>>6829139
I think 2 is the coolest because there's so many weird cars that never made it back to later GT games. GT4's content is way better than GT3's but god damn do I wish its chase cam was like GT3's.

>>6828392
Franchise mashup racers were all the rage back then, and bondiana has cool cars. That one looks more like Runabout. It is not an obvious idea, but an interesting one.
Instead of this gabage that was based on 1 (one) shitty CGI scene in a mediocre movie which was retconned in the books it was supposed to be adaptation of.

>>6830571
Yes it's locked too tightly to the rear of the car and it makes cornering more difficult.

>>6799329
I liked top gear rally 2 in n64

>/racing/

Should have been /vroom/

>>6831457
I like that idea. I like it a lot.

>>6831457
This 100% needs to be the new thread name.

Go play Sega Rally 2k6

>>6831457
>>6831468
>>6832062
Op here, next update will change

>>6828382
>the game is so shit they printed cheat codes right on the cover

>>6832992
>he's right

"At the title screen press L1, R1, Triangle, Circle, X to unlock the Aston Martin Vantage in multi-player mode. If you entered the code correctly, you should hear a laugh."

fucking lmao

I propose Roadsters64 as an underrated gem.

>>6833623
You are about the only person who actually played that.

>>6822394
The series went downhill after that one.

>>6833643
Is this statement sarcastic because the game is more popular than I think, or are you really saying that nobody has played it? Serious question.

Bump

>>6830571
I grew up with 3 and 4 but played 2 as an adult. It definitely shares that 'car encyclopaedia' feel with 4.

>>6833623
>titus
weh!

>>6834236
Post GT4 photo mode.

So how the hell do I unlock more cars in RR Type 4? Starting a new career just saves to a new slot and overwrites the garage, and apparently I can't save after the final race. Are you supposed to just Gameshark it? It's weird there's only three save slots but four teams/difficulties.

>>6835328
Saving/loading on the main menu saves/loads your garage.

>>6835328
RR4 is notorious for its overly complex unlocking system. You basically have to finish in a combination of different positions in different races to unlock everything.

>>6835340
I know about the weird unlockijg system, I don't intend to go for all 320. Just one MMM, RTS, PAC and DIG set to say I finished the game.

>>6835338
I loaded my save and there's nothing in the garage. Wack.

>>6831457
I made a silly thing. Yes, I know I forgot the slashes.

>>6835562
nice

>>6835562

>>6833670
true

Too bad this only sold about 5000 copies and killed the franchise. I like the track editor mode and boost fire mechanic a lot.

>>6817608
>Any really bad retro racing games you've played?

C1 Circuit for PSX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpOkG_ymlSQ

hooo boy those physics, especially when you crash

Bump

Empire city has got to be one of the best tracks in any racing game ever - certainly a top 10 (maybe even top 5) contender.

Actually that is a thought - what are your favourite tracks from /vr/ approved games?

I would say my top 5 - in no particular order are

NFSIII - empire city
wipeout 2097 - gare d'europa
Ridge racer - novice course
NFS high stakes - dolphin cove
Burnout 2 - airport terminal 1 & 2

>>6836689
I thought that was Max's Junkyard from Carmageddon II for a second there.

>>6836689
>>6836709
But on a serious note, that's a really good question. Such a good question I can't think of an answer, heh.

>>6836689
>gare d'europa
based

>>6837060
It is THE best track ever done for wipeout or its clones. I don't want to hear about ubermall, manortop or sol 2 - we all know gare d'europa is the king amon men.

>>6836689
Empire City, Hometown, Seaside Route 765 (RR1 Easy track), and I can't fill the last two slots with more NFS3 tracks in fear of sounding like a broken record so I guess something from the PS2 era. I guess Laguna Seca technically counts by virtue of being in GT2.

>>6837435
Call it as you see it anon. I really like grand valley speedway but that is a top 10 choice, not a top 5.

Not a specific track but shinjuku on msr/pgr1 is so good

>>6836689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1_AtP6xD34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB4l3kpeIbU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nvPMHAvIq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqRQ3CRdfyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFS6aSan7zI

>>6837496
>Air race
Y'know anon, you're alright.

>>6817608
All I can remember of this is 'Atomic snowball!' and hoping I could get a better new game soon.

>>6812847
I'm not a bikefag so I can only imagine your suffering since over the multitude of years I've played racing games, bikes we're represented very little. Off the top of my head burnout paradise had some bikes, and as for dedicated games... Uh... There was this street bike game I used to play as a young lad on the ps2... I have it inside a blockbuster case so I don't know the title or what the art looked like. The only thing I remember was sliding your bike on its side to go under obstacles was a often used mechanic in that game. I think I know where I left it in my house. Whenever I get a chance to look I'll see

>>6837745
My bad I didn't read your other post about paradise

>>6837745
Now I'm curious what game has a button where you can slide under a truck, don't tell me it's Midnight Club 2 because you can probably lean way down through underneath a truck.

>>6837769
oh i know the game anon is talking about
it's Speed Kings

Most enjoyable racing game from the 90s was Sega Rally Special Stage from 1995. Played in a Celica GT4 with full rally interior on a full motion platform.

>>6837917
YEP. That's it holy fuck! I haven't played that in years. Thanks anon.
>>6837769

>>6837981
Eugh. Not a fan of gutting actual cool cars for a video game.

>>6836689
I can hardly remember the specific tracks, but my favourite type of track is going through a natural environment (like a deep jungle, a forest or a desert) into a city or a small town. It shows the beauty of nature while reminding how far we've come.

>>6838178
It's probably just a base model Celica of which they made thousands and thousands with a GT4 badge and wing attached, which they then painted to look like the Castrol car.

>>6838201
Something like this? I had to cut a bit of it out to fit into the 1:30 4chan has.

AAAAADVENTURRRE RRRACING!

>>6836689
superb taste, although for me it's vostok island

>>6839076
Beetles, you say?

I love making webms for these threads.

>>6839196
Why are High Stakes tracks so fucking boring and samey? In Hot Pursuit every sector has a different visual identity.

>>6839209
I wouldn't say they are boring compared to NFSIII but overall they are weaker. Fuck the raceway tracks though.

>>6839220
What is it with raceway tracks in "unconventional" racing games usually being boring as fuck?

I know it's not the same but the race circuits in the first two Flatout games always felt so much more boring than the other tracks.

>>6839231
Realism (or an attempt at) doesn't mix with the abstract.

>>6839243
That's probably it.

When you go the other way though you can have some great circuits. The first two ToCA games were brilliant on that front: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rSljx__HRk + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0zBOThqbaE

I loved driving on the Test Track layout.

>>6839249
That brings back some memories - i've not played those games in 20 years.

>>6839209
I think they went for more of a whole-package feel for the High Stakes tracks. I don't see that as especially a bad thing, most of them flow really well and some still have distinct parts like Dolphin Cove, they're just not as immediately memorable as NFS3's. If I had to hazard a third guess, it'd be that 3's tracks are distinctly split up to both make it easier for the alternative routes (Atlantica/Aquatica, Hometown/Country Woods, etc) to fit in, as well as making the piecemeal cop chatter easier to work with by giving the player regular, immediate landmarks to identify. The words, "He's near the covered bridges, going one hundred plus!" are probably still audible in the mind of most people who played NFS3 to this day.

>>6839243
Can you expand on that?

>>6839473
Fundamentally the tracks in old school NFS (and other games of that period, but lets focus on NFS for now) are all designed around a style of being exotic and mesmerizing. The sort of thing car manufacturers use when promoting their latest and greatest - the super car at the top of a winding mountain road, the SUV atop the rolling sand dunes, the superbike ready to roar down the rural country road etc etc. All tracks with this design goal need not worry about any concept of reality beyond looking cohesive.

The flipside is once you start bringing serious attempts at realism into your design the limits of reality hamper what you can do. The fact that this hypothetical corner would have to be driven at 50mph with extensive crash barriers each side isn't fun in a game when it is about doing 100mph+ through a snowy mountain. Look at it this way - in old school NFS, midnight club or burnout would Brands Hatch actually be fun to drive? The answer is no.

>tfw best girl, best team

>>6839494
Well put, anon. Not to say real tracks COULDN'T work on an older game- hell, something like Mount Panorama is ridiculous and scenic enough to fit surprisingly well- but man, I miss the sense of style all those old games oozed from every pore. You see those bridges just before the church and Main Street intersection or that Galaxian Jumbotron with its sodium-yellow tunnel passing underneath or what-have-you from your game of choice and there's really nothing like it that cements itself in your brain for decades.

>>6799329
Haven't seen this mentioned yet in these threads. I remember the map extended past the usable town areas for what seemed like forever, but last time I played this I was very little so perception might be warped

Can I beat GT3 with a fully upgraded Lancer Evo 7 for the events that allow it? Also how the fuck do you do the pro vitz challenge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dybcJyk1iiA

R O T T E R D A M

The best racers of all time:

Burnout 3 on Xbox due to custom soundtracks
Road Rash 2 on Genesis
Road Rash on 3do
Mario Kart 64
Sonic and All Starts Transformed

>>6839752
The concept of free roam, especially long distance travel, between races felt so damn good and I've been wanting more for so long. I know the series is called Choro-Q but the others just don't feel the same.

>>6841764
I didn't even know there were others. Always thought the name you just dropped was it's own thing. My one friend has a copy of this for the GameCube but I could swear it only had the minigames... Unless I'm stoopid

>>6841794
There is a exclusive one for the Gamecube

>>6841842
Huh, interesting. I'm looking up to see what the differences are currently. Never played it outside one time at his house

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQ1AZsojNs

>>6844742
Never got round to playing 2 or 3 for some reason. They dropped the big storyline, right?

I kept taking one of the V8 Supercars around Sandown to crash into people head-on. I don't know why but it was funny as fuck.

Won the Gillet Vertigo race car, time to rip gt3 a new asshole

Bump

>>6845237
>28 minutes
Why?

Why don't you choose 4WD? Though it is the composition which became stable most and stands big output. Now we declare 4WD is a supremacy. If you approve of this declaration, to participate in this challenge.

>>6845347
RWD is king anon - I don't care about that tree as i'll never see it before it kills me.

>>6803695
Road Riot? The only thing I remember about this game is reading a review of it that slated it so I never played it.

>>6805275
There was a speed cheat if you changed up and down gear really fast, with an autofire pad.

Friendly reminder to NFS dudes that Rom Di Prisco released a whole new album of classic-styled music two years ago and it kicks ass.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k3UD5Uy3XrsUdBOvnUGvmREyIC0550ScQ
>two tracks (707 and 202) as direct relatives to Cetus 808 and Aquila 303

>>6845547
Heh reminds me that Synesthesics guys has done a ton of remixes of the classic NFS tunes. I rate most of them pretty highly.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYeOXnG4SUYGUmuFvJSdFdnlYSn3RL_YY

>>6845601
Speaking of remixes and unfinished music, Saki Kaskas's cause of death finally came out as an overdose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikPQeahsfn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPJIB8o6CKMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xop0oQiGPxMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTtuuNe6TwMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLYgM9ZrEyc

>>6846029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikPQeahsfn0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPJIB8o6CKM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xop0oQiGPxM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTtuuNe6TwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLYgM9ZrEyc

>>6845601
speaking of remixes, reminder that nintendo version of nfs the run (main verison is the best in the series btw) has got a ton of remixed classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmUEcfvsABY&list=PLFA4CF51FEBB03AF6&index=17

Bump

There was a Dreamcast racing game that was posted in the previous thread that I wanted to try for this year's Dreamcast celebration but now I can't remember what it was...

remake never ever

>>6847178
Vanishing point?

old pic, but fun as fuck

>>6847547
I forgot the PS1 version has the cockpit view.

Rolling start

>>6847526
Nah, I've already got that. I don't even understand how to advance in this game.

I'm leaning towards Test Drive: Le Mans but I feel like it was more obscure than that (like I hadn't heard of it before).

>>6799528
not gonna lie, I like NFS:Underground 1 more.

>>6848517
If you want to look, the old thread is here: >>6783467

>>6848530
I think the thread was newer than that. Do you have a link to a more recent one?

>>6848535
You might be speaking about this thread. It was made at the end of August.

The previous thread is here: >>/vr/thread/S6750242

>>6847490
insane 2 wasn't on par with the original but it was still a good game

>>6848538
For the record, that thread is still archived as well. >>6750242 (I got a link to it from the first thread you linked to).

>>6848556
My bad. I forget how slow /vr/ is at times, heh.

>>6820835
The music is good. The game is OK.

>>6848557
I found it. It wasn't in any of the previous threads. >>6816582

And it was Test Drive: Le Mans.

>>6848572
At least you found it.

>>6846061
Thanks properlinkinganon.

>>6847526
Is this pc, dreamcast or psx version?

Can someone explain to me how people enjoy really early SEGA racing games like Outlast, Hang-On, Super Monaco GP, etc? Without the arcade cabinet I just feel like the games have no real feedback on steering or traction, and rounding a turn just feels like random luck as to whether I'll grip the road or completely fly off when moving at top speed.

>>6849052
DC which is the best version.

>>6849068
that's how the games were
just set the difficulty to easiest and enjoy the ride
gameplay just sucks, i don't think real arcade controls help

I really need to stop playing old school NFS and dive into the swathe of other classics (be it PC or emulation) that are available but man is it hard.

Endurance races fucking suck no matter the game. 5-6 laps should be the max for most tracks

Any advice for first time player for the classic NFS games? I was messing around with Hot Pursuit and while I'm doing a passable job at getting through the tracks, using the handbrake, letting go of the throttle as needed and just keeping an eye on when the gear numbers flash to shift, there's room for improvement.

>>6849068
I've been playing a shit ton of Outrun recently and I have no idea why I like it so much. Guess I just love the pick up and play style of it.

>>6799329
Why don't you ask me what it feels like to be a freak?

I need to get a copy of Porsche Unleashed to put on my Windows 98 PC

>>6850574
Why are you using the handbrake? It's an arcade game and not a sim but you'll still have better luck playing like the latter.
>learn what the racing line is (simplified: outside of the track before a corner, then the inside of the track at the tightest point of the corner, then outside again past the apex- make turns as shallow as possible within reason)
>off gas, on brake, off brake, turn, on gas and straighten out
>better to shift late and bang off redline for a second than shift early and get no power in the next gear
I don't remember if both PS1 and PC versions have the Sim/Arcade driving setting switch, or what difference it makes.

>>6851638
in arcade mode of ps1 version of nfs3 you indeed need to drift and it can be initialized with either of brakes

Cant believe nobody has posted this yet. IMO initial d should have been ported to the xbox, preferably version 3, with live support. But this is as solid of a home console initial d game as theres ever going to be, the series fell off after v3 imo so I dont really care about extreme stage

>>6850970
FlatOut 2 is peak comfy, I wish the PC version had more active players

>>6851880
We wreckfest nao.

>>6799329
https://youtu.be/LhZHntVt6cI
https://youtu.be/X_Cfcess_4Y
https://youtu.be/9ayGtjwJr70
top gear series has some really nice music

Bump

>>6851638
I tap the brake (my mistake in the previous post) to get a better angle on some corners when I can tell I'm going too fast or I entered it too close to the inner side.
I'm on the PC version, if that matters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OTEIvHthjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjqvavj9Qrk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7XuNL88YQ8

>>6799329
I finally got myself a dreamcast yesterday after wanting one for awhile. What are the necessary racing games? I know there's MSR and TER, what else? It came with a copy of crazy taxi so I can tick that off the list

>>6821539
3DS and Switch have good outrun ports. The Saturn one is also arcade perfect and runs at 60 FPS and has both track layouts.

The king of classic need for speed, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2.

>>6853436
more like a weird offspring

>>6853402
Crazy taxi
Vanishing point
Demolition racer

>>6853436
Its not classic NFS.

>>6853402
Speed Devils.

I know Gran Turismo 2,3, and 4 are all worth playing since they’re fairly different in play and progression. Is 1 worth playing?

>>6853598
To a large degree 2 is just 1 but with more content. While you can't beat 99% of 2 with three cars like you can the original both games play basically the same with 2 having the most mind blowing graphics a PS1 ever saw.

>>6853436
the only nfs game i played. i liked it.
>>6853589
>>6853591
what nfs do you recommend ?

>>6853654
>what nfs do you recommend ?
Depends on what experience you want but the easiest ones to jump into that give the classic NFS experience without additional caveats are NFSIII and NFS high stakes/road challenge.

>>6853589
>>6853591
Cool cool, I'll have to check those out thank you

>>6853654
every single one, they all are great and different
also until underground and with the exception of nfs2 they are completely different games between platforms so take that into consideration
>>6853678
why would you exclude porsche?
pc verisions of hot pursuit and high stakes are inferior imho because of boring driving mechanics
>>6853598
1 has much better meta gameplay then 2, there's actually progression and challenge

>>6853707
>why would you exclude porsche?
Because Porsche is straight up intended to be TNFS: german edition and that comes with it a different pace of gameplay compared to III and high stakes which might not be suitable for someone who has never played this era of NFS before. My suggestion is just the starting point, not a comprehensive list of the best titles.

>>6853589
Tbf. It is the last Need for Speed game that is somewhat like the classics. It’s all about sports cars and there’s no upgrading or other bullshit, just pure racing. Though the PS2 version is okay, it looks nicer, but lacks the soul of the Xbox and PC versions.

>>6853732
You've got that backwards buddy - the PS2 version is the best by a huge margin.

>>6853741
agreed, even though pc was my original

>>6853402
f355 challenge

>want to like gran turismo
>hate licenses with all my life

>>6808304
what game is this?

>>6854491
I hated them as well.

>>6854491
They’re easy if you just go for bronze

>>6854491
>>6854514
i like them, to me they are essential part of gt
i grinded them endlessly without success in gt2
>>6854507
nfs porsche (pc)

How's sega GT? I like PGR and MSR

>>6854491
The licenses aren't hard to get GOLD if you know what you're doing. I feel like games like Gran Turismo are better to play if you're a motorhead that already has experience running track day or something, on the PS2/PS1 titles you can cheese your way to victory but GT Sport really showed 95% of the GT fans didn't ever know what they're really doing.

>>6854536
>nfs porsche (pc)
thanks brah

>>6854541
Closer to gran turismo

>>6854548
Sport isn’t fun for that reason, GT being a light sim pokemon like is where it is best, not trying to be iracing console

>>6853732
>but lacks the soul of the Xbox and PC versions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8aIh_X4cjo

What exactly is soulful about those versions?

>>6854592
i wonder why don't any of the arcade pokemon racing games took out, or why wasn't many attempts there
oh wait forza horizon did

>>6854548
license tests in gt1 and gt2 is what taught me to drive fast
i was a "motohead" kid if you could say that
but how could one learn that stuff without games? not many people can afford to race on proper tracks irl

>>6817608

Does Carmageddon 64 count as racing?

>>6854854
It shouldn’t count as a game

>>6854854
It's close enough I guess.

Carmageddon on the PS was also shit

>>6826438
I never mastered drifting in this game, which is why I always chose White Cat and, later, the Hyper Speeder (same stats, slightly heavier).

What series do you think belong to the racing canon? From first though here’s my examples
>Gran Turismo
>Ridge Racer
>Sega Rally
>Project Gotham Racing
>Need for Speed
>Burnout
>F Zero
>Mario Kart
>Rush

Anything else?

Hot damn, this game is pretty good. The control is fantastic.

Bump.

>>6855330
Not retro but I think dirt is worthy

While kind of cheating as it is new I am really liking what I see of hotshot racing. It is cheap enough so if I get s few hours of fun from it I think the asking price is fair.

>>6835804
Just release a clone on Steam with Steam workshop and online already.

>>6853402
TER?

>>6856795
Super Pilot is missing online MP, but it has a track editor which will have sharing functions added later.

>>6856795
>>6856846
keep an eye out for this one lads
https://youtu.be/CEgNFpqLJZ0

>>6856902
or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43cVSMvlL4

>>6855517
early 2000s was protosoul

Is there anyone else here that still plays this in 2020?

>>6856802
Tokyo extreme racer

>>6857453
no

>>6859137
Play it.

>>6859145
Bump

Is the nordschleife the worst track ever? It’s so bland and boring and a chore to drive

is this worth getting ?

>>6851712

Lmao I just posted about this. is it worth picking up?

>>6861224
Yes it is. Just don't let /o/ hear you say it.

for me it's gt4

anons you did complete 24 hour endurances in a-spec, right?

>>6862789
>420 laps
I chuckled sensibly.

Is powerslide worth a play? Sorta gives me POD vibes buit i've not played either game.

>>6861892
I think its pretty cheap still if youre buying it, def worth it. One thing I would say is that it controls super twitchy with the analog sticks on a DS2, I have a lot better of a time using the dpad. Also some of the story missions to unlock the full soundtrack (which is extremely based btw) you will need to look up an faq for to know what to do unless you can read japanese.

Also, this game has audio glitches with slim ps2s UNLESS youre using the greatest hits/version 2.00

Idk where else to ask but are there any fun modern arcade racers? Are the forza horizon games good?

>>6864089
I dislike forza horizon as it is ultimately a sim physics model that dulls the feel of wheels on tarmac as you enable assists to actually deal with the fact it is meant to be played as a wheel controlled autismo sim. I guess my question to you is how arcade do you want to go - are we talking the likes of ridge racer, destruction racer and the like where it is full throttle, powersliding speed all the time or do you want what is considered simcade like old NFS where a solid racing line and correct braking is required?

Bump

>>6799592
This is a game I want to continue during my Dreamcast anniversary week. I downloaded it some time ago and started it but never really got going with it.

>>6865747
It’s great and i prefer it over zero on ps2

>>6862081
Test Drive 5 called that car the "Behold the Mighty Maul!"

...

I'm not allowed to talk about Test Drive 5, am I?

>>6865849
I never played 5 only 4 but looking up some videos 5 appears to be 4 plus some extra tracks and an even worse UI.

>>6817608
Try any of Davilex's racing games. Dutch budget brand which I think did well (for a budget dev) in Germany too. I guess they tried in France.
The thing is, making a really bad racing game is really fucking hard. As long as the cars drive and don't glitch into the ground, you're golden. Boring though, that's more of an issue.

>>6866054
>Davilex
Oh God, I remember playing London Racer decades back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0cpI_2l_kM

>>6837720
It's not that bad desu I like all the thunder games even 4x4

I have both Sled Storms.

>>6821992
I just don't like how you can't press start and see a restart button. Getting your first car is a chore when it takes me till the third lap to get the hang of drifting, but by that point I'm already fucked. Then you have to finish the race and restart a super long boring time trial

>>6866062
They repurposed that entire game for A2 Racer III btw.

>>6866084
what a surprise

still, better than phoenix games's white van racer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESdfHe81p-k

>>6866106
I've never been to Lancashire but I like to imagine that video is pretty much what it is like.

>>6866490
kek

Reminder: RVGL exists so re-volt can be had for free and with all the content from the various versions without piracy or emulation.

>>6826438

F-Zero at 60 frames per second on a N64 > any 30 frames racing from newer generations.

>>6853436
Hot Pursuit and High Stakes have never made me sweat. Hot Pursuit 2 on PS2 ALWAYS make me sweat.

>>6864089
>Idk where else to ask
>forza horizon
Well you see anon this is /vr/ not /v/

>>6866619
/v/ only cares about eceleb drama and /pol/ tier trash

>>6866546
ALREADY POSTED, CUNT.

>>6866657
Does it matter?

>>6809261
Fuck this game the time limits were complete bullshit

>>6828382
>>6828392
Same devs as Street Racing Syndicate and Ride to Hell Retribution

>>6804486
I was just about to play this myself.

>>6866912
Driver hasn't got anything on stuntman. Stuntman isn't a game but a form of emotional torture.

>>6855330
Midtown Madness
FlatOut
Stunts
Re-Volt
Carmageddon

>>6855330
I nominate Daytona USA/Sega Super GT.

>>6856568
The first game is but that's not the good one.

>>6855330
Destruction Derby

People like Vanishing Point? The control is so hard to wrap your head around...

>>6866949
I just cheated to get access to everything on Stuntman so I could use the stunt arena.

>>6866960
>Re-Volt
I didn't enjoy that.

>>6869234
Could you expand on why? The game is held in high regard for a reason so i'm curious to hear your reasoning being your dislike. I initially didn't like it but found out it was entirely down to the steering being way, way too sensitive at default. Lowering that made the game a much better experience as turning became much smoother.

>>6854491
They're key to what makes GT special. When it comes to the racing you can almost always cheese it with OP cars. If you want gold in the licences you have to drive properly.

>>6854491
I do too. I just shoot for bronze and call it a day. Still gets you a license.

Bump

>>6867025
this series need more love.

>>6870107
This

Is there any other game with feeling of progression comparable to gran turismo and at least simcade level of realism? What I mean by this is starting with little money buying some cheap shitbox you can probably afford irl and get by tuning it and winning few easy races before moving on to racing cars, lmp, f1 etc. Forza seems like obvious answer but i tried fm7 and it was just so souless for lack of a better word and every other game that's somewhat comparable like for example nfs most wanted era is either too arcadey, is plagued with bullshit like rubberbanding or they hand you supercars right from the start and ruin that sense of progression. Is gran turismo really the only game like this? How the fuck there aren't more clones like it that capture a similar feeling?