/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6848569
The GOAT. Only flaw is the crappy bumpers. If you have the post-One S revision they're at least not as crappy as the launch model. I'm probably going to buy the SeX controller when it comes out in the hope that the bumpers won't suck as bad. I'm not sure how I feel about the new Dpad though. I've never really used a circular Dpad extensively. Can anyone who's used an Elite chime in on how they like the Dpad? It looks similar to that.

>>6848569
It was pretty rad. Huge step up from Gravis anyway.

>>6848636
Driver software had profiles for everything

I used this one for many years. 6 face buttons and dual analoug.

>>6848569
Get on my level plebs.

I have big hands, so I use the Xbox Duke Controller.

here is my small collection

and some more, including the best gamepad for sega mega drive - the sg propad-6

>>6848671
>>6848731
is there a modern version of this?
I need one for saturn emulation and mame
the closest thing I could find that isn't a meme $300 fightan controller is this
https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawlergen-usb-genesis-mini-switch-mac-pc-controller/
but it doesn't have analog triggers

>>6848569
Any good dos drivers for this?

Got this about a week ago. I like it

>>6848580
The circle dpad is fucking brilliant. Feels great, very accurate, great for fighting games if you're into them.

DS4 is the best controller for fixed angle Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Final Fantasy, 2D Zelda, 3D Zelda, 2D Mario and 3D Mario.

It's perfect for retro and modern.

>>6850072
is it easy to get used to the layout? i've always been used to buttons on top and sticks on the bottom

>>6848569
Retrobit Saturn, if it didn't acted weird with Mame (random upper-right press)
so, original Saturn controller with the adapter.

>>6849968
Good question. I dunno.

>>6849957
>is there a modern version of this?
>I need one for saturn emulation and mame
>the closest thing I could find that isn't a meme $300 fightan controller is this
>https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawlergen-usb-genesis-mini-switch-mac-pc-controller/
>but it doesn't have analog triggers

I'd like to know this too. Really would like a modern 6-button pad with analog sticks. I thought Retrobit were making a Saturn and 6-button Genesis/MD pads with analog sticks?

>>6850032
>6850032
I'm more of a platformer sort of guy. Does it feel at least as good for platformers as the regular 'bone controller? Like Cuphead and Ori for instance.

>>6850035
> 3D Zelda
> 3D Mario
Yeah, no. Anything that uses the control stick as the primary input is inarguably better on the Xbone controller. And personally I'm not a fan of the split dpad either. Wouldn't want to have to play a game like 2D Mario where you have to rapidly slide your thumb back and forth across the dpad.

>>6850084
I've heard people complain about layout on various controllers and never fucking gotten this autism. Is it so hard to have your thumb in slightly different places on different controllers? The fuck?

Wii U Pro is about as close to an all-rounder as you can find.

>>6850072
Mah nigga Why, Nintendo? Why do you hate analog triggers so much, though?

>>6849975
I didn't. Mine was defective as shit and all 8bitdo controllers have janky bluetooth and shitty dpads.

>>6849968
I think it just depends on what game you're playing. Most just looked for 2-4 button joysticks/pads, but ZSNES and other end-of-life DOS emulators tend to just werk with gamepads with tons of buttons like this. There probably are TSRs for programming it, though.

>>6850420
what do you use ?

M30 fuhfuhfuhFUH LYFE

>>6849968
>>6850247
Uuuh if its for the USB version OP posted probally not

If it's for the gameport version use your fav search engine for "sdwgm110.zip" or "sidewnd5.zip"

>>6850510
>usb c
wish they would do a regular usb version of this like their snes controller i dont like wireless and i dont want to pay almost 10 dollars for an adapter

>>6848569
I can't. I control what's happening on the screen using only the power of my mind. Level up, you fucking sissies.

I like it a lot...

>>6850817
Too light. Thumb sticks feel flimsy. D-pad is awesome.

>>6850506
but how do I hook up two to my single gameport socket on my creative card for dos games?

>>6848580
you can get a cheap one for $10 and throw on your standard xbone controller

>>6848569
oh boy i had this motherfucker, played a lot of fifa 98 on it

>>6850506
>mfw i played the goddamn jazz jackrabbit on this shit
best retarded controller i've ever had.

>>6848569
Still the best for me. In fighting games, my execution is on point using them. They lack the analog sticks and triggers for modern titles, but for general purpose, they are my preferred controllers.

My favorite controller is my SNES controller I bought new and opened. Nothing else can compare.

>>6851389
>White with orange buttons
Holy fuck I want this.

Gray for laptop (plugged into monitor), blue for android while on back with it anchored over head, 8bitdo n30 for camping and thus in a gobag with an alternative android that I keep with another backup android in the same go-bag.

So I only use the gray and blue mostly, however the 8bitdo is both bluetooth and wireless while being the most compact. Came with a carrying case designed for an android to go in with it and all.

The gray is a bit damaged on the left analog stick. The blue is refurbished a bit with super glue as the buttons stopped poking back out so I had to fix it. The portable tier 8bitdo is mint, though I think they sold me a used one, the faggots.

I used to have a blue and black logitech controller but no longer.

Logitech from early thousands radio shack.

Bluetooth, amazon.

Nyco air, a friend that stole my logitech.

8bit thingy, amazon.

I first played with a keyboard only back in the win98 emulator days. But whatever. I'm not finding my white keyboard online. Some hp keyboard. I was pretty good with it and even played OOT on it if I recall. Who needed an analog stick? Anyway...

Also don't buy that beboncool shit. it has a mouse mode that's kinda fun and all but it broke too easy and has a fake d-pad.

Just saying.

I have this Saitek but the cable is cut. Wish I could mod this so it will work with modern pc.

>>6850403
>Anything that uses the control stick as the primary input is inarguably better on the Xbone controller
Yeah, no. Symmetrical design is comfortable, and allows proper use of the dpad. DS4 is the overall best general use controller for emulation.

>>6851451
That's the Puyo Puyo variation. I've been looking for the purple Darkstalkers one.

>>6848569
Long live China. D-Pads are way too stiff and have some input lag though

>>6850506

>mfw I destroyed one of those before throwing it in the trash

I am sorry, I was young and stupid. It even had the little joystick nub :(.

>>6851094
This is interesting, but I feel like it wouldn't really work well retrofitted into an Xbone controller since the slot is still cross shaped. So the circle part can't rest down in the controller, it's going to be raised up higher than it should be.

run it up bitches.

>>6851247

>>6848731

Logitech has always consistently delivered good PC controllers over the decades. The F310 is still one of the best 'cheap' gamepads out there, if you don't mind a Playstation style gamepad with Xbox (xinput) button configuration. Even the d-pad on their controllers are really competent. They have their own patented d-pad design. Better than most other pads I have used.

The Logitech Wingman Rumble wireless is still sought after all these years, in some circles. This one uses RF wireless like the wavebird.

My old friend Logitech F310. About twelve year and keep going. Love it!

>>6850072
This is good but like the other anon said I dont like how both sticks are up top
For some reason it doesnt bother me on the actual tablet but it does on this, I much prefer the Switch Pro controller

get on my level

It's just the original dualshock but improved, I like it

>>6853347
>sega playstation
didn't even know these existed

>>6853475
>didn't even know these existed

Those are PS2 gamepads that were made by Sega for games like Virtua Fighter 4 and some of their other PS2 titles. But, they also make for good pads for other fighting games on the system.

>>6850506
The d-pad was as bad as it looks. Keyboard was much better.

>>6853347


Nice collection! . I just sent back one of those retrobit 2.4ghz controllers because how utterly trash they felt in comparison to the HSS-0101.

>>6849975
zoom zoom

>>6853615
>zoom zoom

I own a black 8BitDo SN30 Pro+. I use it as a wired pad on my PC and it works quite well. On Steam, you can either detect this pad as a generic Xbox One gamepad, or a generic Nintendo Switch gamepad. In Nintendo Switch mode on Steam, you can take advantage of the gyro controls and map them to mouse look, or something.

>>6850506

Gravis use to be well known for their PC sound cards. They were heavily marketed to the PC gamer crowd, and music production. It was really common to see 'game ports' (DA-15 connectors) on the back of the more popular sound cards. So Gravis would also make joysticks. Gravis made the original 4 button PC gamepad specifically for Commander Keen. Commander Keen popularized 2D platformers on the PC in 1990. It was one of the first gamepad (non joystick) controllers for the PC-DOS platform. That disc d-pad was really questionable. It breaks easily and one of the directions will never register properly me. I also owned some Gravis GamePad pro's. These used the patented PlayStation design, but are made out of a cheap hard plastic. Have somewhat mushy buttons and that same awful d-pad. But I still used this controller to play a lot of emulated SNES games.

>>6853863

>>6851115
My man.

Saturn for 2D due to superior dpad
Xbone S/X for 3D due to superior analogue

That is all you need

Xbox One for modern games, SF30 Pro for retro games. I prefer handhelds so I usually just clip my controller onto my phone and play emulators on there.

>>6851389
saturn is one of the worst controllers made. you're off your fucking rocker.

>>6852254
Damn, that looks badass.

200+ IQ Choice

>>6855705
Not him, but I disagree. The Sega Saturn Controller is great, especially for arcade games and fighting games. I use mine for emulators all the time.

>>6853443
Wish they make a Bluetooth version of this

>>6855592
ppl like you really exist?
holy shit hahhahaha

>>6850413
The Wii U Pro is the ONLY controller that has the stick above the buttons. You are fighting over 20 years of muscle memory with it, no idea why they decided it was okay. They got it right with the fucking Gamecube for fuck's sake.

>>6856439
>Wish they make a Bluetooth version of this

I think Logitech needs to refresh the f310 design.

>>6850084
I always had a hard time being able to reach both the stick and the bottom two buttons in the same hand position

>>6855974
why the fuck did they microwave the D-Pad before putting it on

I can wrap my hand around this little fucker and touch my thumb and middle finger tips together, but it's cheap, solid built and the buttons feel good.
Sticks kinda suck, but I didn't buy it for the sticks.

>>6853363
The Elite still has the same cross shaped slot and the circle dpad is raised on it as well.

>>6853449
Having both sticks on top makes more sense since you use less pressure when you use them.

>>6852254
>"heres your controller bro"

>>6853434
I have the PS2 version of this for a decade and I can confirm it's great.

>>6857625
Fucking Saitek. Their legacy lives on today in Logitech hideously over-pricing the X52 and X52 Pro HOTAS setups, which weren't incredibly a decade ago and are sorely lacking today.

>>6849957
>brawlergen
>not meme controler

>>6857774
read nigga
"meme $300 controller"

>>6850413
>never fucking gotten this autism
people with small hands have trouble using low D-Pad as it becomes super uncomfortable to quickly switch directions (liek in platformers) on this and any advantage over stick in that situation is lost.

>>6849957
>Single analog stick
I understand that the Saturn's 3D controller only had the one but christ, you're so close to making a potentially handy modern controller. Right now it's not fully a retro controller for a modern system or a modern one for a retro system.

>>6848569
I use this on pc but this is the best goddamn controller ever made. Pity nintendon't overprices it so much.

>>6858665
>that D-pad

Sony controller is only good for project diva games.

>>6855592
Just like NDS

>>6848569
>boomerang overall
Apple Pinpin or PS3 prototype controller

This.

>>6855592
Based Persona 3 Portable

>>6850035
>>6853470
>Dualshock

The /emugen/ wiki was right. Just nabbed a used DS3 (with USB cabling) for 20 bucks. R2/L2 Triggers are still in great condition. I'm using it for all emulation and racing games.

>>6860668
Get on my level.

>>6856881
there's a newer wireless version that costs a little more but has rubber covered sticks.

>>6849952
>sg propad-6
that was my default controller when i was a kid, still have a saturn version

Step aside, gaylords.

any other controllers that use this stick? it's insane how good it feels. it felt like going from membrane to a mechanical keyboard.

>>6855705
They work best for me. I like the feel of the Saturn D-pads and face button layout. The only negative is that I wished the XYZ buttons were the same size as the ABC buttons. You have to find what works best for you, and the Sega Saturn pads are great for me, such that my execution in fighting games is at a place where I like it only using the pad.

>>6853475
They come from a different dimension. The additional select button does make them more useful in emulation.

>>6853553
Thanks, those Retrobit ones are still in my Amazon wishlist. The clear blue plastic looks great. I read they have a revision which is better, but it doesn't seem well documented on what's the good one they released.

>>6863741
I know someone who prefers the saturn 3d pad because of the button size issue.

>>6863647
I only know of the Razer Raion, which uses microswitches in its dpad. So not quite a stick. Look up some reviews, though, I haven't had the chance to use it.
Another possibility would be to mod the neogeo reissue controller. They removed the switches, but they can be added back somehow.

>>6856937
Huh. The more you know.

>>6848569

Mine hasn't been produced yet. I doubt it ever will despite Retro-bit telling people it's still happening for years now.

>>6856881
Same but red

>>6863878
Came in to say this

>>6863878
>ETA: Nov 2018

They're still responding on Reddit as if it's really happening though:

https://www.reddit.com/user/Retro-bit/

I dont understand the delay honestly as it happened before the covd situation, but I want to give them the benefit of the doubt anyway because it really is the dream controller to me.

>>6848569

Interact also made a version of this game pad for the N64 as well.

>>6863878
>>6863892
>>6863916
why do they keep fucking with us?

>>6850072
I just wish I could figure out how to get it working on PC without dodgy driver shit

>>6853347
>Sega Playstation
Wait a minute...Sega and Sony had a prototype console too?

>>6864563
Nah, as he said it's for Sega's games on the PS2 as a sort of novelty quality arcade game controller sorta thing for Virtua Fighter 4 and the like.

>>6864547
did you try using steam input?
https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Store:Steam#Steam_Input

>>6856465
>Over 20 years
Speak for yourself gramps

Anyone else wonder what kind of life you would have reincarnated as a controller?

>>6864717
probably something like pic related

>>6864642
That doesn't seem to work. Mostly because the controller lacks proper drivers, so the PC can't detect it as anything other than a USB charger.

>>6865334
I have found the most obtusely retarded workaround though, lacking a bluetooth adapter on-hand since I was trying a wired connection earlier: bluetoothing it to my Steam Link.

>>6865334
its not a driver issue, the usb port is literally just for charging
you need to pair it using bluetooth, and then use wiinusoft

>>6862649
Cool. I want to get that kind too.

Make way for the GOAT. It's a crime that more games didn't support it.

>>6866240
What game support it?

>>6866446
Towel Wringing Simulator 1997

>>6866446
>What game support it?

http://brittens.org/NegCon.html

F Air Combat/Ace Combat
F Ace Combat 2
F Ace Combat 3
F Andretti Racing
F Atari Anniversary Edition Redux
F Auto Destruct
F Ayrton Senna Kart Duel
F Burning Road
F C1 Circuit Japan only
F C3 Racing: Car Constructors Championship/Max Power Racing Europe only
F Car and Driver Presents: Grand Tour Racing '98/Total Drivin
F Carmageddon
F Castrol Honda Superbike Racing
F Colin McRae Rally
F Colin McRae Rally 2.0
F Cybersled
F Demolition Racer
F Destruction Derby Must boot the game with the neGcon connected, and link cable mode is not available when using this controller.
F Destruction Derby 2
F Firebugs Europe only. Menus don't reflect the neGcon buttons, but it works fine otherwise.
F Formula 1
F Formula 1 Championship Edition/Formula 1 97
F Formula Karts: Special Edition Europe only.
F Galaxian 3
F Gran Turismo
F Gran Turismo 2
F Grand Tour Racing '98
F Hydro Thunder No calibration options, but there are a few differnet button layouts to select.
F Initial D Japan only
F Jarrett & Labonte Stock Car Racing/TOCA World Touring Cars
F Mobil 1 Rally Championship No neGcon configuration options, but the default settings feel fine
F Monaco Grand Prix a.k.a. Monaco Grand Prix Racing Simulation 2
F Moto Racer
F Moto Racer 2
F Motor Toon Grand Prix 2 US release is called "Motor Toon Grand Prix".
F Namco Soccer Prime Goal/J-League Prime Goal EX About 99% compatible, and the twist control can be used to curve the ball.
F Nascar 2000
F Nascar Rumble
F Need For Speed, The
F Need For Speed 2
F Need For Speed 3 - Hot Pursuit
F Need For Speed: High Stakes
F No Fear Downhill Mountain Biking
F Porsche Challenge
Race Drivin' Go Go Japan only
F Rage Racer
F Raven Project, The Europe only. Menus are apparently a little clumsy with the neGcon, but the game plays fine.
F Ray Tracers
F RC de Go!
F Ridge Racer
F Ridge Racer Revolution
F Ridge Racer Type 4

>>6866543

Continued...

F Rollcage
F Runabout 2
F Rush Hour/Speedster/BattleRound USA
F Soul Blade/Soul Edge Twist can be customized like any other button, but possibly only in the PAL version. NTSC versions are confirmed playable, but might not have twist support.
F Sports Superbike
F Supercross 2000 According to those that have tried it, controls extremely poorly with the neGcon.
F Syndicate Wars Twisting controls the camera angle.
F Team Losi RC Racer/Buggy
F Tempest X3 Only compatible with the NTSC version. No reliable way to reassign buttons, but the defaults work okay.
F Test Drive 4
F Test Drive 5
F Test Drive 6
F TNN Motor Sports Hardcore 4x4
F TOCA 2: Touring Car Challenge
F TOCA Championship Racing/TOCA Touring Car Championship
F Tommi Makinen Rally Europe only.
F Turbo Prop Racing/Rapid Racer
F V-Rally
F V-Rally 2 Track editor might not be fully operable with neGcon. Not compatible with Interact V3.
F Wangan Trial
F Wipeout
F Wipeout 2097 European version of Wipeout XL
F Wipeout 3
F Wipeout XL
F World Stadium 2 Japan only?
F World Stadium EX
F Xevious 3D/G+