/vr/ - Retro Games

sprite limit
DOJ
whatever you enjoy
zeroranger

>>6832129
shmups in the 80s was made for the chads in the arcades and not some tranny autist playing for score

any modern dadshit? i only know of hydorah

is mark_gaysex a good reviewer?

>>6832235
twin tiger shark

>>6832237
big fat no

>>6832237
>mark
>A good reviewer

>>6832129
>What you scoring?
this question violates human rights

>>6832129
>How come they didn't invent bullet hells in the 80s?
Hardware issues
>Best Vertical Shmup?
Hellsinker
>Best Beginner Shmup?
IN or LLS for bullet hells prob, cant say much about dadshit
>What you scoring?
DFKBL

>>6832284
based yukkuritime posting between raids

I downloaded Karous mostly out of curiosity since it’s a 2007 Dreamcast game, turns out I fucking love it. Where do I go from here?

>>6832276
Score big or play another genre.

>>6832305
the equivalent of "juice should be gassed" of the shmups community

>>6832302
Radirgy

>>6832302
>I downloaded Karous mostly out of curiosity since it’s a 2007 Dreamcast game, turns out I fucking love it.
get a big score in Karous.
you might also like Radirgy and Illvelo or Homura.

>>6832129
>What you scoring?

>>6832327
>hiding the initials
what you scared of son

Batsugun came out in 1991.
And besides the second loop of Gradius 2 was already bullethell-ish just with a large hitbox.

>Batsugun came out in 1991.

>>6832358
That's what I said, 1993.

>batsugun came out in 1991
ya I'm thinking we're back

>>6832331
don't dox me bro

ACtually, Batsugun Black Label with autobombs came out in 1992.

Batsugun should have never come out.

autobombs were a mistake

Honestly Batsugun is overblown just because of who designed the game, it's just a dad shmup, not bullet hell in any sense

>>6832384
based paranoid schizo

Rayden 1 and 2 are better than any '90s Toaplan game, ngl.

>>6832432
It's not dad enough actually

>>6832450
simple scoring mechanics, fast snipers, enemies that come from behind, not so small hitbox in Original...
How is it not?

Mushihimesama was ported to the PS2.

>>6832482
:seal:

>>6832345
xevious can also get p heavy with bullets at times
https://youtu.be/P24bjcvnxd8?t=909
https://youtu.be/P24bjcvnxd8?t=925
https://youtu.be/P24bjcvnxd8?t=942
https://youtu.be/P24bjcvnxd8?t=1080
https://youtu.be/P24bjcvnxd8?t=1764

>>6832404
i understood that reference.

>>6832331
> asking someone on an anonymous forum to identify theirself

>>6832538
it's arcade initials not your real name and address

>>6832542
People have been doxed with less

>caring about the players rather than the games
this is why shmup threads are shit, bunch of attention seeking drama queens.

>>6832641
This is how it goes
>someone says something completely stupid about a game
>is rightfully called a nonplayer

>>6832237
>after doing almost the bare minimum this site asked me, I will tell you what type of game this was 2/3 into the review
sasuga

Is Mars Matrix 2poo inspired? I really need marks help rn.

>>6833057
join his morpig tranny server

hate it when touhou patterns are just "figure out the exact way you're intended to survive this otherwise you're fucked"

>playing touhou
I heard you get hrt discount if you do

If you play toaplan games you get a discount for viagra

>shump players call the little enemies before the mayor "popcorn"
I started doing this in non-shumps too

>>6833108
kek

>>6833113
doesn't make sense in other games, it's because of the sound of many dying to one hit

>>6832237
> thanks for sharing
Wtf, post a goddamn link so those of us who dont suck eceleb cock can know what the fuck you are talking about.

what did I think of it?

>>6834150
looks gay and cringe

>>6834154
well you found each other, but that's not what I was asking anon

>>6834150
mogs 2poo in the "flying little girls" shmup category.

>>6834178
there is some truth in what you said, I wish you didn't sound like an absolute degenerate faggot tho but whatever

>>6834296
Does it make it any better if I meant the ""flying little girls" shmup category" as a pejorative?

>>6834309
Well now you're going to pretend that you're not a shitposting unfunny retard?
that's not how it works anon

>POST SCORE!
>no, no, not like that! I only wanted your name!

>>6834470
nah it's just really bizarre to deliberately edit the screenshot to remove the initials
in RPGs people share their character names all the time but for some reason with shmups niggas here are scared of that

>>6834563
People use their real name when playing RPG? I always go with something funny.

>>6834178
>"flying little girls" shmup category.
what are the best of that subgenre?

>>6834360
I think I'm funny... That said, I don't understand what your post has to do with me not liking little girl shmups.

>>6832482
and it looks like shit because the ps2 is a garbage console

why is item-based weapon changing so much more kino than set shot types, bros?

>>6834569
People use their real name when playing shmups?

>>6834635
ikeda = ikd

>>6834659
kamui = kmi

>>6834659
>>6834662
But not everyone does

Let's see people start posting their 1cc lists. Note: if you haven't 1cc'd at least 25 shmups, you should promptly kys.

>>6834740
you have to ask for replays otherwise you'll just get larpers

inb4 some tranny posts 25 Easy Touhou clears

>>6834740
>>6834745
>>6834749
Well, go on or do you only want others to post lol

>>6834752
The only ones I have with a replay are Thunder Dragon 2 ALL, Sengoku Ace 2-ALL, Hishouzame 1-ALL and Gradius 2-7. I do have a feeling the guy who asked this has no clears tho lmao

>>6834745
can't, I deleted my youtube account because of accusations of cheating.

>>6834772
Tengai 2-ALL stream when?

>>6834772

Yes, I play dadshit, how could you tell?

>>6832146
based

>>6832146
pretty sure they played for score in the 80s and had competitions

https://streamable.com/b66u53

>>6834590
deathsmiles

>touhoufappers consider this shovelware to be the best game in the series
>it's fucking boring trash
lmao what a dogshit series

>>6832327
>highding Arcade tag.
bloody hell this place is full of retards.

>>6835341
BUT YOU FIGHT MARISA POGGERS HOIP

MMORPG communities: guys I play too much, how do I control myself?
shmup communities: guys I have a hard time playing the games, what do?

>>6832129
>How come they didn't invent bullet hells in the 80s?
too many sprites

>>6835382
he is burned out on shmups. if he's on a shmup discord he plays a lot to impress others.

Just 1cced CCWI bros, now I think I'm ready for Cave

>>6832504
>Xevious

Me loves some Xevious. Based Xevious poster and based Namco.

>>6835505
Congrats fren, still working on that one.

>>6835063
Leave it to dadturds to not know a damn thing about the genre they claim to play lmao

>>6834590
cotton (PCE)

https://www.amazon.co.jp/ウェーブ-メモリアルゲームコレクションシリーズ-ニューアストロシティ筐体-色分け済みプラモデル-GM-027/dp/B08496Z4JS

Do sickgrabbers REALLY?

>>6836204
I have no money, but I must grab.

>>6836108
scores didn't exist in the 80s?

>>6836238
play Omega Fighter, the first shmup with a non-trivial scoring system and came out in 1989

>>6836238
They did and there was plenty of score based competition, especially locally in the west. But even nationally, you had games made for competitions hosted all over Japan. This is to be expected because scoring is the most essential aspect of the arcades, that's where everything came from - infinitely looping scoring based games. There was no "survival" or "1cc's", there was only how far you could push your scores. Don't tell the dadshit posers that though

I play retro shmups and enjoy seeing the points go up

>>6836264
>the first shmup with a non-trivial scoring system
anon do you know what a caravan shmup is?

>>6836265
>muh posers
and how many shumps have you multi-looped

>>6836285
post a replay

>>6836285
Post a replay proving you're a player first then we'll talk

>>6836318
can't ask for a replay until you post one

>>6836326
Exactly my point, so post it lad

>>6836329
can't ask for a replay until you post one

>>6836358
im not posting anything until I see your initials

>>6836391
Read em and weep pal.

>>6832129
best /beg/ shmup is star parodier, first one I could 1cc and it has awesome pacing and ost

I have to be honest here.. i've had Gigawing 1 and 2 for a while now, and even went far enough as to record some of my sessions, but i really do hate the game to death. Its kind of a love hate relationship i guess.

Gigawing's scoring system and bullet patters dont make sense to me as a shooter. I can see how Capcom was going for something slightly different in scoring and dodging, but good god man.. nobody can dodge those bullets!! Its not even L33T.. its just dumb....making you rely on your Reflect Laser/Barrier. In which case wtf is the point of ever using your Uber 7331 dodging skills that you've honed in on over the course of hundreds of shooters to avoid the barrage of bullets, just to bust out your Reflect Barrier to avoid everything and catch those points!.WTF is the fun in that?.. If you've played it, you'll quickly realize that most of the bullet patters are impossible to dodge, literally impossible. Capcom must have made it this way on purpose, because it makes good use of the Reflect Laser/Barrier giving a hand in the scoring system.

On the flip side of course you are forced to doge enemy bullets just like any other shooter, but the ones that are possible to dodge dont really make it that challanging. To me when you waste all of your skill dodging largely seperated pink bullets and smashing through all of the rest with your Reflect Laser/Barrier, it just seems like a waste!!!! I feel like a Noob in any other Vert shooter using the Super Bombzor when things get too tough.

>>6836898
https://youtu.be/6cfTre4bfZA

>>6836918
> no reflect
Fucking based masochist

for me its parodius da

Do I speedkill or go for the score

>>6836271
There were caravan shmups with scoring systems more complex than "kill enemy for 100 points"?

>>6837108
The whole style's defined by optimizing wave quick kills so you get more enemies while getting all the boxes/items and uncovering bonus tiles that increase exponentially.in value. There's other secrets for point bonuses and some suicide strategies too. It's not enemy chaining but it's very non-trivial.

>>6832129
the tech wasn't there yet. The first bullet hell was literally invented to test the sprite limit of a new arcade board.

>game over'd with 6
>fucking SIX unused bombs

been dadhopping a lot lately.

>>6837279
>using crutch like bombs ever
ngmi

>why don't people play shmups

>>6837420
That's just the actions of a depressed person using video games as an escape.

>>6837420
This is the kinda nigga that watches seasonal anime instead of something good, gamers need some other hobbies desu

gud game.

>>6837464
what gam?

>>6832129
> How come they didn't invent bullet hells in the 80s?
Sprite limits.

>>6835341
> boring trash
So you didn't play, got it.

>>6837840
>fucking slow patterns that take 20 seconds to get to you
>awful level design
>lame backgrounds
>bland characters/plot (and that artstyle kek)
it's boring and shit m8

>>6837858
> patterns take 20 seconds to get to you
Only way this could happen is if you're playing on easy. Patterns giving you time to look at them before expecting you to dodge them is standard.
> awful level design
You're not one of those shitters who thinks "level design" means backgrounds and shit, are you?
> lame backgrounds
Well at least you're not that, but still, level design IS patterns.
> bland characters/plot
You got filtered by stage two or something, didn't you?

>>6837497
Space Invaders '95 ~ Attack of the Lunar Loonies

>>6837464
I credit fed a while back andthought the last boss was some real bullshit
How you're suppose to take out something with so much health I don't know.
Really cute game otherwise.

>>6837934
I thought the spooky level where the shields start shooting at you was a lot more annoying than the last boss.

The best shmup ever made is Battle Mania Daiginjou.

The relationship between Reimu and Cirno is very inspiring and we can all learn a bit from these two when it comes to these threads.

>>6837991
i can't argue with that. time to play it again

>>6837858
I don't know why ikaruga is considered good either

>>6835035
They need to permaban this shit. If you want to upvote posts fuck off back to your website.

>>6837872
>> bland characters/plot
>You got filtered by stage two or something, didn't you?
Not him, but did we play the same game? The characters are unremarkable and the plot is the dumbest shit imaginable, how can you think it's even decent?

>>6836387

>>6838069
I understand Ikaruga because it's fucking pretty. But yeah it's boring.

>>6838202
>pretty
I don't think so, it aged badly

>>6838174
If there's one thing Touhou isn't, it's bland story-wise. It's a classic example of "batshit insanity for no real reason". I'm not commenting on the quality, but it's objectively not bland, and saying otherwise proves you've never played it. That is, if his silence didn't already.

>>6838256
cuhringe

>>6838256
Don't you have a few trannies to say Good night! to?

>>6838263
> if you don't think Touhou is literally the worst shit, to the point that you lie about it to make it out as even worse than it is, you must be part of my secret tranny cabal!
Try harder.

>>6838268
>secret
https://twitter.com/search?q=%40flobeamer1922%20good%20night&src=typed_query&f=live

>>6838276
You're a wojakposter who expects everyone to know who his favorite twitter trannies are and I'm supposed to be the problem here?

>>6838256
>bad people show up
>Reimu sets off to stop them
>repeat this premise every game
Explain how this isn't bland, again?

>>6838282
dilate 2hutranny

>we don't browse 4chan!
OK 2hutranny

2poo tranny chasers ITT btfo

>>6838283
> a protagonist who wants to stop bad shit is bland
Not every game is a postmodern shitfest. Shouldn't you be shilling for YIIK or something?
> princess Kaguya from Tale of the Bamboo Cutter and her entourage of lunar aliens defect from the moon and stop the full moon from happening to keep themselves from being followed
This isn't bland. Pretending otherwise is retarded.

Yes, I defend Touhou in 4chan shmup threads, how could you tell?

I'm bored and drunk give me a retro weeb shmup to play that isn't a parody game

>>6838295
post bussy

> call out literal lies about Touhou
> like two samefags post a slew of uncreative insults because someone isn't part of their hivemind
so this is the power... of the shmupg circlejerk...

>2hufappers spamming with loreposting
like clockwork
go to your containment places cucks

>>6838301
Cotton Boomerang

>>6838304
who the fuck cares about Touhou story, you're not looking good here
also different opinions =/= lies
there's 2hug on vg, or go to jp, probably more for you tobedesu

>>6838310
He clearly did since he spent the time and effort to lie about it.
Yes, it is a lie. "Bland" is an objective term with a dictionary definition that Touhou doesn't fit.
I'm not leaving one circlejerk for another, that'd only make things worse.

>>6838318
OK bro forget about that absolute faggotry, dunno how you function in 4chan without being able to ignore bait; what are you playing?

>>6838308
>Cotton Boomerang
I would love to but Saturn emulation is nonexistent

no point getting shocked some people don't like touhou here
that's just how it is senpai

>>6838325
Psyvariar Delta mostly. Difficulty curve is fucked but I'm figuring it out.

NOOOOOOO HOW COME YOU DISLIKE TOUHOU IT'S THE BEST SHMUP THING EVAR I WILL COMPLAIN THAT YOU DO AND DEFEND TOUHOU ENDLESSLY

kek based poohoufag making dadcunts with no arguments seethe and hope he goes away

>>6838330
OK talk about Soivariar instead of this absolute embarrassment of a conversation, thank you

>>6838341
was that just a reflex soi or do you have something against psyvariar? either way, what the fuck?

>>6838347
Is this what HRT does to you? It's just a joke

>>6838352
you do realize "soi" is an insult right? it's not just a funny thing people add to words for no reason? jesus fucking christ

>>6838130
seething

>>6838354
Yes and I'm just using it as a joke
Seems to be working since you're seething

>>6838318
If you care about what literal no-names on 4chan say about games you like to the point where you feel the need to respond to them, then I think you need to find a new hobby
>>6838354
lol ok

>>6838354
yeah i'm thinking soivariar players are earning the soi title

>>6838361
> random insult to a game you don't really know/care about constitutes a "joke" now
????????????

Touhou anon, I sense you're quite new.
Here's something you need to be aware of:
the Touhou community is filled to the brim with trannies and tranny chasers
the games are highly associated with strong faggotry

>>6838363
Indeed

>>6838364
it's like calling someone a nigger, you may not be literally calling them a black person, or even that be an insult
Autism Speaks

>>6838365
You think I'm not aware of that? I play the games, I've seen the community, of course it's full of faggots and trannies trying to claim it. It's entry-level and it's anime-ish.
But lying about the games because the community is especially retard prone is just as retarded as the trannies you claim to hate.
>>6838373
I've literally only used nigger when insulting someone, so does everyone else without autism.

>>6838378
bro you're getting upset that someone called Poohoo story "bland"
have some self reflection

>>6838384
I'm getting upset that someone used lies to justify calling touhou 8 "shovelware". Not liking it I get, but "bland" has an objective meaning.

>>6838389
u stinky

>>6838389
>upset that some anon insulted Poohoo
HAVE SOME SELF REFLECTION

>>6838389
People lie on the internet, what else is new? Life's too short to get worked up over shit like this, I think you need to reconsider how you use your time

>>6838356
You're 14.

The poohou guy might have autism but his commitment to dismantling shitty """arguments""" thrown his way is respectable. Was funny seeing ppl stumble trying to explain why Sames got better level design, what a joke

Imagine unironically being impressed by Touhou's plot. LMAO.

>>6838396
Maybe I should, but hey, seeing people accept bullshit shitposts because they fit the narrative better is gonna piss me off whenever I see it. May as well call it out while I have spare time.

>>6838403
I explained the flaw of touhou level design quite deftly earlier. That said, it is still worth playing.

>>6838403
brah not even the Touhou community thinks that those games have good levels for the most part

>>6838407
How new are you? They say stuff like this precisely to trigger people like you, others don't take anything said here seriously

>>6838403
>Was funny seeing ppl stumble trying to explain why Sames got better level design, what a joke

He was wrong there too. Fast, unpredictable patterns > dense, readable patterns.

How does anyone even get into these games. It's hundreds of hours of memorizing patterns, not even reacting just autistically memorizing the exact pixel to hover on to not get hit. I'd rather spend my time doing literally anything else.

>>6838408
Were you the fag who just spouted out some vague shit about no ground enemies and believable environments without being able to mechanically break anything down or explain why its good? Laughable

>>6838416
That's just dadshit. Try some easier danmaku and you'll suddenly be playing a game that people are expected to beat by learning rules and principles rather than enemy formations.

>>6838417
Nope.

>>6838414
Good job now try to justify that statement without sounding like a dumb pleb. Premise is false anyway if you want unpredictable youre gonna get more rng in poohou than some oldschool memo based shmup with primarily aimed patterns

>>6838409
Yeah, but a stage of shit that does nothing but take identical aimed potshots at you distinguished only by the background and the formation is worse than anything Touhou ever did.

>>6838416
If you're put off by that you have different options
1. Stick to easy shmups. They exist. Also easy modes in games with multiple difficulties.
2. If you just don't want to be challenged but still enjoy the gameplay, just credit feed.

>>6838419
Easy dad is the same, see: Vulgus
seethe harder tranmakuck

>>6838416
Play an rng heavy game like just about anything by Yagawa, Guwange, Gunsmoke. If you have a problem with the idea of putting in the hrs practicing then get one of the numerous easy 1ccs

>>6838425

>>6838409
Yeah and I think its shit too, the complete lack of arguments was the embarrassment

>>6838413
> just don't have any real discussion and take nothing anyone says seriously!
alright, then where's the thread where we actually discuss shmups? oh, is it not on the website anymore because this mindset let it get shitposted out of existence? go fucking figure

>>6838443
Don't come to 4chan for "real discussion". Take this advice, it's good for your health.

>>6838453
Do you know how many times I've gotten to post this recently? Too many. Stop being part of the problem.

>>6838443
Unironically trannycord

>>6838456
You can't do anything about this, without proper moderation this is what happens. It's better to stop trying to make 4chan a better place. I'm serious, if you dislike shitposting to this extent just go elsewhere.

>>6838459
I really don't want to give up on the last website that has some real level of anonymity AND a decently sized userbase.

>>6838232
You are the only person to think so in the entire world.

>>6838468
It's not worth getting upset over it
Besides, it's shmups. Just play them and forget about the community. You don't need other people.

>>6838471
To 2hu anon, listen to this guy, i'm sure you'll be much happier in life

>>6838471
Sorry, that's just not something I can do. If I see bullshit, I'm mad. It's intrinsic. And these fucks killing what could be the only good place to discuss shit while everyone else stands by and lets a handful of shitposters have the run of the place because 4chan is already a lost cause or whateverthefuck is definitely bullshit.

>>6838406
Absolutely fucking tragic.

>>6838475
as far as just forgetting the community wholesale, I might. I'm just saying I can't not be mad over it. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

i'll play 2hu if someone kisses me

>>6838475
>>6838478
Even better argument for you just leaving. There's nothing here for you other than you getting needlessly salty
Maybe come back once you've mellowed out; the best way to handle things is to ignore shitposters and contribute what you want to see.

>>6838424
>Good job now try to justify that statement without sounding like a dumb pleb.
Don't need to justify objective truth.
>Premise is false anyway if you want unpredictable youre gonna get more rng in poohou than some oldschool memo based shmup with primarily aimed patterns
That's the point, learning Dad takes more memo than 2hu patterns, RNG or not. If you don't have the levels routed properly then you're going to get screwed fast in a dad game because you can't simply react while you're playing.

further proof that Touhou attracts the faggiest people on Earth

>>6838484
I thought they were unpredictable, now they're memo based? You're tripping over your own words son, you're done, you've lost

>>6838484
> objective truth
It's not "objective truth". If it's anything it's an objective lie. In quite literally every other genre, throwing shit at the player that they're basically guaranteed to die to the first time (unless they're lucky) is bad design. Why are shmups the exception?
> learning Dad takes more memo than 2hu patterns, RNG or not.
If I wanted to be tasked solely with memorizing and executing a complicated pattern with my fingers I'd have learned an instrument. I play games to have my problem solving and adaptational skills tested.

2hu anon...
you're just gonna get baited for hours. you're wasting your precious time

>>6838494
>In quite literally every other genre, throwing shit at the player that they're basically guaranteed to die to the first time (unless they're lucky) is bad design.
that's wrong tho

>>6838502
There are some places where it can be used well, but in general, I'm right.

>>6838494
>In quite literally every other genre, throwing shit at the player that they're basically guaranteed to die to the first time (unless they're lucky) is bad design. Why are shmups the exception?
Because it turns it out it was never actually bad in any genre and most people are just gay babbies with fragile egos who can't stand a game ever daring to kill them in the first place.

>>6838494
Fairness isn't bad design you fell for the meme. It's generally desirable but its absence doesn't make something bad since even a completely unfair attack can be exciting to dodge due to the rhythm flow, execution, depth or unpredictability involved. Dadshit having an occasional unfair moment ain't a problem, it's only when said unfairness is the only source of challenge that it becomes bad design because in that case an attack can only be interesting exactly once.

>>6838508
I like memorization in all types of games anon

>>6838510
this

>>6838510
No, it was bad in all those genres too, you retard. If the game says "rocks fall, everyone who wasn't standing on one leg dies" with no hints at this beforehand, it has failed to provide a lasting or interesting challenge. The challenge of a cheap shot is only ever INTERESTING once, then it just becomes "that part is coming up, better stand on one leg now".

>>6838524
>it has failed to provide a lasting or interesting challenge

>>6838524
But I like that stuff anon, what are you gonna do about that? Yell at me that my tastes are wrong? I'm gonna continue liking such elements.
Is this some sort of cope from your part?

>>6838524
>The challenge of a cheap shot is only ever INTERESTING once, then it just becomes "that part is coming up, better stand on one leg now".
This is in no way a problem and is satisfying to memorize + execute in subsequent attempts.

>>6838529
You're allowed to like things that are objectively less interesting than the alternative, anon. Otherwise I wouldn't be allowed to like Touhou. But it is still objectively less interesting. If there isn't a single route, you have more room to optimize and failures feel more like your fault, since you were in control of decisionmaking AND execution rather than just execution.

>NOOOO YOU CAN'T LIKE STUFF THAT MAKES ME SEETHE AND DROP GAMES IT'S OBJECTIVELY BAD YOU SEE

>>6838532
OK who cares then?

>>6838494
Also the problem with improvisation is that it tends to feel very sloppy, haphazard and inconsistent. Memo is reliable and very deliberate, you're in full control of the situation and can expect consistent results with the only source of variation coming from you. And if you up the execution you can get natural inconsistency based off of player performance so you'll have to pay close attention either way

This is all a huge cope as scoring play demands full game memorization anyway, that also goes for Touhou
Shut the fuck up already faggot

>>6838532
>objectively less interesting
>something being more or less "interesting"
>objective
Okat well akshually memos are objectively more interesting and readability is objectively less interesting. What now you stupid fat retard?

>>6838536
Just because you're allowed to like it doesn't mean it's just as valid as the alternative. Arguing that it is is retarded.
>>6838545
> hazard requires you to do specific thing x to bypass it
> kills you before you can do the thing
> you respawn and come to the hazard again and do thing x
> next hazard requires specific thing y
> repeat for a whole game
Fucking yawn.

>>6838524
Only if you completely remove execution from the equation and furthermore reduce memo into a binary simon says like choice vs a problem with many potential approaches some better than others

>>6838549
if you're going to challenge yourself purely on execution go fucking learn piano or something. be productive.

>>6838552
ok 2hutranny
good luck scoring in 2poo without memorizing the game tho
faggot larper

>>6838552
If you want to adapt go survive in the wilderness, be based and trad
Plus I already play multiple instruments

This Touhou nigga coming to a scoring community trying to argue that memorization is objectively bad

>>6838560
>scoring community
Citation needed

>>6838560
>>> scoring community

>>6838562
You saw Ricardo, SAR, and maXXX posting scores
Not the thread's fault that it cannot ban faggots like this Touhou larper

>>6838565
Max is going for a clear since you can't reach 50 mil in Gunbird

>>6838570
A clear is a score too

>>6838470
wrong

>>6838401
dilate tranny

all the 2poo trannies in this thread. What a waste.

>>6832129
>How come they didn't invent bullet hells in the 80s?
>>6832146
Arcades were all about hiscores, shitposting hipster samefags. And they didn't have the processing power to do bullet hell yet.

>>6835505
Proof? Arcade mode is beast, I don't believe you!

>>6838779
probably meant Novice

>memorizing and dodging 2hu bullets is totally not like memorizing and dodging dad traps guys

i'm starting to get a lot of "Good Night!" vibes from you anon.

>>6838876
>upset at people calling Touhou's story bland
totally part of Good Night gang

good morning gang > good night gang

cute em ups?

Warning:
Stop playing Touhou before you become a no self esteem loser acting like a beta cuck in public in hopes for feminine penis from some ugly tranny
Or worse yet, become the ugly tranny yourself with your own tranny chaser system orbiting you

>>6838742
lactate, manboobs.

>>6838975
>cute em ups?
no anon, I prefer military and space shmups :3 uguuu~_~';

take the eagletpill, stop playing video games for achievements, stop dealing with autistic communities, leave all those people behind
keep most of your scores and replays a secret except for a select few you upload to youtube mainly for yourself and strangers who care about the dead game you play

>>6838282
>wojakposter
outed yourself as a /v/irgin tourist right here pal
shmupg mostly consists of boomers who don't keep up with the lastest zoom zoom memes, now eat a dick you faggot tranny lover

>>6839204
based

>>6839142
Huh, why

take the bananapill, say you stopped playing video games when you actually just stopped playing shmups to play mmorpgs full time

>>6838757
>And they didn't have the processing power to do bullet hell yet.
thats the dumbest shit I ever heard

>>6839342
it's right though

>>6839351
the fucking genesis could do grind stormer

>>6839363
ah yes Grind stormer now that's DoDonPachi

>>6839368
both shitty kikeda games

>>6832129
>bullet hells

Because doily dodging shooters are retarded

>>6839368
you are telling me dedicated arcade hardware could not do shitty bullet hells in the 80s? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>6832129
Help me understand: Aren't shmups supposed to be "play until you figure out the best way to fly through a stage"? What's the point of figuring out a suboptimal way if the shmup is already solved? It's like pretending that you invent pizza when everybody's eating one.

>>6839380
Gradius games slow down even in loop 1 and those were high end

>>6839383
The point is getting a higher score than the current world record, which may require figuring out some better strategies

>>6839383
>Aren't shmups supposed to be "play until you figure out the best way to fly through a stage"?
no, they're supposed to be "have fun"

>>6839393
>shmups
>fun
ask me how i know you've never tried to go for good scores

>>6839463
>doesn't have fun playing for good scores
ask me how i know you're a filtered jarpig

>>6839463
scoring > shitter clear

>>6839469
scoring shmups isn't fun, it's like work that you aren't getting paid for
>>6839471
missing the point

If scoring's so great why don't you stupid faggots ever post your scores?

>>6839490
NOOOO YOU SIMPLY CANNOT CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT

>>6839490
>wanting replays for free
what an entitled prick

>>6839484
>it's like work that you aren't getting paid for
are you describing some MMORPG?

>>6839490
>>6839501
I already have several times (Ricardo) it's the retards that never post anything

quit the 'pigs
post scoars
post replays
wear masks
NOW
simple as

>>6839623
>quit the 'pigs
hate speech
I have the right to pretend I'm into shmups and shit up shmup spaces

>>6839484
>it's like work that you aren't getting paid for
Everything that you have to put effort towards improvement is "work".

>>6839629
notice how they won't ever complain about the effort put into elf grinding

>>6839634
they actually pay $15 month to grind, must be really fun

>>6839638
REALLY activates my almonds bros
fucking jarpig larpers ITT if you don't like playing shmups just leave, don't assume others don't
I don't like your shitty games doesn't mean you can't like 'em

>>6839525
>>6839623
>>6839627
>>6839629
>>6839634
>>6839638
>>6839647
why are you talking about jrpgs in a shmup thread, no one here is talking about them

>>6839882
aww are you gunna cry widdle babby jarpig?? are u gunna cry??? aww widdle babby jarpig gunna cry!! liddle babby jarpig gunna cry.

>>6839882
You're replying to some people that aren't
What did you mean by this

>>6839882
assuming you're not a seething jarpig but a genuinely curious person:
the shmup community has a problem with rpg fans that don't play shmups and they're kinda the butt of jokes

>>6839882
because they have a persecution complex and think everyone who doesn't enjoy their games is actually just an RPG player who spends time in shmup threads to fuck with them
that's the level of projection and mental illness present in jarpig posters, don't waste your time on them

>>6839920
>the shmup community
this thread doesn't have that problem so who cares?

>>6839923
bruh shmup community mods (farm, discord...) have mods that are very open about the rpgs they play while not playing shmups
and they only minimize that when it's brought up as an issue
you ain't gaslighting us, jarpigs

>>6839931
>this thread doesn't
OK post scores. What you playin

>>6838779
Yeah novice, I'm still working on arcade mode but it's pretty tough.

how's calice going lads

>>6839942
kek called it
this place has sunk low af

>>6839943
Denta is disappointed by it

>>6839946
are you referring to the channel deletion thing or did something new happen?

>>6839950
I'm not aware of this channel deletion thing
I just mean he's disappointed by the participation and is retracting from some of the decisions (too many games, having to pay for games and no teams)

stop gate keeping

>>6839958
teams would probably be more fun
he just added too many games, it's too easy to say "holy shit 50 fucking titles" and put it off
The old format was just better

>>6839962
I will continue to gatekeep people that don't play shmups, they have other places to freely larp on

>>6839976
you're better off taking the eagletpill instead

>>6839983
It's fun to make jarpigs that want to freely larp in shmup threads seethe by making them not feel welcome and surrounded by people that notice and do not approve of their bs

>>6839984
why are jarpigs sooooooo insecure and desperate for our approval arcadechads?

>>6839936
and 4chan's mods are fucking absentee, if there's anyone here who actually doesn't play shmups in any capacity they have no authority and will leave if you stop acknowledging them

>>6839994
there's one mod that monitors shmup threads in search for certain people funnily enough
anyway you can notice when such people are around when they say very stupid shit, they don't leave, they relish being able to participate and larp
the most effective way of making them stop is to make them not feel welcome

What are, objectively, the sickest shmup jamz?

>>6840062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7yFpTEdiIk
doesn't get any better

>>6840074
Damn it's good right from the get go. Is black label included in the steam release?

>>6839958
he said the participation is actually much better than expected, it's that the channels are usually dead (which should have been obvious since there's 30 games)
the team format is still much better tho

>>6840080
yes

sorry boys i don't have time to play shmups for the next 2 months
got a final fantasy marathon scheduled

*Ahem*
Fuck trannies, fuck jarpigs, fuck posers, fuck rpgs, fuck jannies

>>6840147

>>6840137
Good luck with your gender reassignment surgery

>>6840147

Here's your chance to prove us wrong:
If you dislike this whole anti-jarpig situation, reply to this with your best replay
Because you DO play shmups, right?

>>6840169
jarpigs btfo

>>6840080
It's a very good port and worth getting

Dads claim to love fast bullets but dont play SDOJ Expert high rank without slowdown
Whats up with that?

>>6840216
Fucking no one plays SDOJ because it's only available through PCB and 360.

>>6840223
i have it on 360
it's the worst DDP game, godly soundtrack though

>>6840227
The other day I almost rebought a 360 for all the Cave games thinking I could just pick one up for like $20 - $40. Turns out they held their value much better than I was expecting/hoping.

dads claim to love fast bullets but aren't doing max rank runs on dojbl. really makes you think doesn't it.

>>6840247
dojbl is a dad game

>>6840247
dojbl isn't faster than dadgun's bullets

>>6840247
ain't got nothin on Raiden's loops
seethe harder tranmakuck

>>6840281
Washing machine ain't that far off speed wise while being vastly more complex than anything in Gayden desu

>>6840241
Almost all them are available through the online store
The only pain in the ass is getting a working gift card in japanese yen, most sites now will ask for your ID and a photo before they sell you one
if you're a big cave fan though it may be worth it, too many of their ports are still stuck on the god damn thing including the best port of deathsmiles

>>6840294
>comparing a TLB pattern to the entirety of the game after a point
kek proving based Daidens right

>>6840304
Single bullets don't count, literally just move sideways

>>6840312
>literally just move sideways
perhaps the same could be said of all bullet patterns

>>6840312
>has never cleared a dad game
dilate tranny

>>6840323
Denser patterns require you to fit through gaps and switch between macro and micro dodging, slower single bullets have you stream and create openings. Single fast bullets require you to go left or right and switch directions at the right time

>>6840341
retard you're not dodging one tank at a time but snipers from a multitude of angles at the same time and more
go back to defending touhou lore that's more your speed

>>6840349
Yeah the sniper tanks are the only reason you even need to switch directions at the right time otherwise it'd be 10 IQ trash ya turkey

>>6840361
post that Raiden clear big boy

>>6840361
play raiden fighters

>>6840363
You'd have to pay me to play that trash for more than a few hrs. Where's your clear btw?

>>6840341
What do you think of this kind of dodging?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvU2dFQ6K0&t=2110s

reminder that real bullet hell fans like Jaimers and chum also like dadshit and have hard clears in them
these dadshit haters are just coping shitplayers

>>6840371
educate yourself or go back to eating feminine penis

>>6840361
>yeah but what if the game were completely different

>>6840371
cope

>>6840373
Literally what I described just with more frequent back and forth oscillations, bullets that fast don't play to the genre's strength and simplify dodging

>>6840371

>>6840375
>all dadshit's like Gayden
Retard tier opinion, even Xevious blows this garbage the fuck out

>>6840391
let's see you do it
>dodging fast stuff isn't fun
100% guaranteed coping faggot that can't into dadshit dodging

>>6840391
>Literally what I described just with more frequent back and forth oscillations
the whole game is like that, for 50minutes if you watch it...and the bosses are incredibly fast too.

>, bullets that fast don't play to the genre's strength and simplify dodging
that looks simple to you? lmao

>>6840394
That your boyfriend?

>>6840398
the fuck are you talking about? they have other dadshit clears besides Raiden games

>>6840398
>Raiden
>garbage
Ok Despatche.

>>6840401
Pay me by the hour and I will, also post your clear poser faggot

>>6840398
>even Xevious
>even
Xevious is based tho you faggot.

>>6840404
No that's the people that like the games you like 2hutranny

>>6840405
Were you dropped on your head you stupid faggot? We're talking about Raiden, git gud at communicating you social invalid

>>6840413
I've posted my clears like 80 times lately in these threads I'm still waiting for you faggots to do it. You first this time. let's see that LNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN list

>>6840421
Touhou's garbage though, I'm thinking that's your butt buddy after all

>>6840425
Raiden's just a dadshit example you peabrain. now read that post, it talks about dadshit in general

>>6840430
>implying we can't tell you're the 2poo lore faggot with the same exact arguments and posting style

>>6840428
Oh you're ricky? Carry on then, I'm talking to the other worthless poser piss stain

>>6840437
I was arguing with the poohoufag myself yesterday, your brain's mush, get lost

>>6840438
I legit don't know a single legit bullet hell player that either doesn't also like dad or at least respects dad. Now I'm interested, who are you and what are your clears/scores?

>>6840445
I talk shit about dad to weed out the posers, there's some good dad shmups but everything I said about Raiden's spot on

>>6840447
>but everything I said about Raiden's spot on
tell that to WTN

>>6840458
If it's not JRPG's, Raiden or Gradius are the retirement homes

>>6840447
That's fair then, keep up the good work
however I think you're just talking to Buzzy and me though so not really any dad poser around atm I'm afraid
These days they're quite rare, sickgrabbers are becoming a thing of the past and what's in is being a Cave larper

>>6840462
funny to call someone retired when he crushes Tatsujin Ou in ways noone in the west can even dream of

>>6840462
>Raiden or Gradius are the retirement homes
more like the final shmup redpill.

>>6840463
>however I think you're just talking to Buzzy and me though
Wait so it's Buzzy that's been making those dumbass anti danmaku/scoring posts for months now? For what purpose

>>6840479
lol it's so obvious who you are, so bad at trolling

>>6840484
Who am I bro

>>6840479
Oh I know who you mean by the anti-scoring crap, pretty embarrassing if he's legit. I doubt that's Buzzy but is he really around now?

>>6840484
Who?

>>6840478
holy based

>>6840495
Yea, he has a few stock posts he cycles through then when someone calls him a faggot he starts talking about trannies, never posts about gameplay or anything

>>6840510
Honestly 4chan is a waste when it comes to shmups

>>6840515
Sucks that it came to this, early /shmupg/ felt like it was gonna be IT

>>6840536
no moderation to prevent larpig infiltration = eventual decline
every time

>>6840447
>>6840462
>he thinks posers play raiden and gracious more than danmaku

>>6840562
gradius*

>>6840562
yeah honestly this is pretty outdated, he has a point though with one recurrent poster
tbqhwy I miss nonplayer dads, they were better than tranmakuck posers

>>6840585
Only upside to dads is the misinfo they spread was so bad it just got funny as fuck like Gradius Leo and neo geo port

>>6840616
I'd rather be surrounded by out of touch but still normal men than good night gang

>>6840470
West players have done better achievements than that. Crying more dad shit.

>>6840643
multilooping that game is legit insane lad I don't think you know what you're saying
took XnoZero several years just to 2-ALL and WTN just casually multiloops that shit

>>6840654
Who ?

>>6840691
Very good Chinese player that was coached by WTN directly to learn Tatsujin Ou, also check his Cave videos:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFkKviC3_LHayzIR4b7D2-Q/videos

>>6840697
He's not have good scores. A pro player like Jaimers would do it easier.

>>6840705
>muh Jaimers
you danmakucks are predictable
what about someone actually good like Iconoclast
he's interested in playing Tatsujin Ou when the M2 port comes out

>>6840705
He has way better scores than Jaimers at DOJ lmao
based danmakucks

>>6840705
>>6840712
>>6840713
jokes on you those are by others

>>6840719
lmao baited

>>6840712
>clast
>cleared Raiden IV and V
>ignored 1 & 2
What did he mean by this

>>6840727
He took the MOSS pill.

>Raiden
These games are a shit. Boring.

>>6840713
All this means is Jaimers didn't want to beat him (but he could if he wanted to).

Jaimers is arguably the best player in the world. You only make fun of him because your jealous. Pathetic.

>vertical shmup
>has parts of stages that will collide with your ship
Fuck treasure.

>the only 2-ALLs the shmup community has recently produce is DFK novice 2-ALLs
Yeah shmups are dead

Imagine maining anybody but Miyamoto.

>>6840712
quit talking about yourself clast....

>>6840861
>Fuck treasure.
based

good shmups on steam?

HEY JARPIGS

WATCH THIS

*throws ur sealed copy of final faggotry on the ground and stomps on it*

>>6841292
I'm pretty sure they have some touhous

>>6841292
Here knock yourself out :
Crimzon Clover, Ikaruga, all the CAVE games, SITER SKAIN games, ASTROPORT games, Psyvariar Delta, ZeroRanger, Blue Revolver, Dariusburst CS, Danmaku Unlimited 3, Dezatopia, Qute games, Raiden 3/4 and Caladrius Blaze, Strania Stella Machina, Shikigami No Shiro, Infinos Gaiden

>>6841332
>ASTROPORT games
>steel vampire is on steam
well shit I did not know that

>>6841349
That's not ASTROPORT but same publisher yeah. If you have a friend to play with, get Acceleration of Suguri 2, game's a lot of fun.

>>6841297
Who are you talking to?

>>6839945
>1cc a shmup
>this is a bad thing
Seems unlike you I actually play
Besides which I got the arcade 1cc too, which is more than you'll ever do.

>>6841443
>Besides which I got the arcade 1cc too
n-nani!?!?

Dont forget Serious Sam TFE, the best shoot em up.

>>6839943
been more than a month and less participation than expected
lots of good players just signed but never submitted their scores showing there's lack passion or motivation on current tourney
commercial games also gate keeping it from not just participation number but also completion like more than 50%, this is racist desu
also heard a game dev also trying to push his game on it so fuck it

>>6841775
Super Xyz, the latest homosexual shootemup craze lighting the scene in flames!

>>6841808
coincidentally mark is also shilling this game
I see the connection now

>>6841808
i bought several of the steam releases but not that one
phew

>>6840373
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qvU2dFQ6K0
How do people watch this and call it simple and boring?

>>6842000
because it's speedhacked

>>6842024
>ma1 ma2 mode
>speedhack
lol

>>6842059
not that internal difficulty you moron, I meant it's prob played half speed

>>6842064
Tranmaku brain can't handle aimed bulletspeed, exposed

gotta dodge fast