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Anonymous Sat Sep 5 16:33:02 2020 No.6836946 [Reply] [Original]

The Kingpin "remaster" will be running on Unity instead of idtech, please understand.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/1224700/announcements/detail/2908717911985626208

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 16:36:04 2020 No.6836958 File: 525 KB, 1200x1600, stallman9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6836946 >Unity Dropped.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 17:04:38 2020 No.6837053 Well, this sucks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 17:09:29 2020 No.6837070 remaster is pointless anyway, you can play kingpin just fine on a modern pc in high resolution with a patch, so why bother?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 17:11:19 2020 No.6837079 >>6836946 >"enhanced mode" screenshot All I needed to see. It's going to look so "same teacher teaching different subject"

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 18:32:26 2020 No.6837376 Fuck Gearbox

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 18:34:10 2020 No.6837380 >>6836946 Why would they advertise the fact they ruined the lighting? Seems very deliberate to have the bald man in shadow. The change in camera angle makes the characters look really short too.

Anonymous Sat Sep 5 18:41:49 2020 No.6837404

>>6836946
What's fucking enhanced about that screenshot? The room is smaller, the models and textures are the same and the lighting looks like a shitty ENB plugin. And why no idtech2? Yes, i think Kingpin changed it in some ways (hence it is not not compatible with sourceports, which is a damn shame) but is is open fucking source, sure as hell it is easier to make than a complete port?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 18:46:01 2020 No.6837423 >>6837404 They lost the source code for the original game. And instead of trying to make a new idtech2 fork they decided to just throw the assets into Unity.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 18:46:04 2020 No.6837424 File: 614 KB, 853x480, Screenshot_2020-09-06 Kingpin Reloaded Before After Teaser.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >new quest system I am actually curious about this.

Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:05:27 2020 No.6837484

>>6837423
Damn shame.
The pool of retro shooters to port on modern systems is getting smaller and smaller though. I wish someone will take Cybermage, it just needs a couple of quality of life features like being able to remap all control buttons and use all of the keyboard for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:12:17 2020 No.6837506 >>6837376 It’s made by 3D Realms you retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:37:19 2020 No.6837581 Would have to license out IdTech? If so then this is fine. Why give money to bethshitsa?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:42:12 2020 No.6837597 File: 40 KB, 331x132, 1560402228549.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6837581 >Why give money to bethshitsa? I've read some posts of anons saying that apparently bethesda is not even interested in licensing idtech engine

Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:43:45 2020 No.6837606

>>6837423
I mean, if you read their statement it seems like it's quite an undertaking they did. They literally scrapped their first attempt and started from scratch this way to make a better version and youve discarded their effort to just "they slapped some shit together".

Who the fuck cares it's in unity so long as it's good. It's clearly not some shit indie platformer off of Kickstarter or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 19:52:26 2020 No.6837632 >>6837606 Well for one thing, you won't be able to bhop in multiplayer anymore. And many other small things will be different since it's a completely different engine now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:01:35 2020 No.6837657 >>6837632 Why wouldn't you? They'll obviously recreate the movement as accurately as possible

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:07:35 2020 No.6837664 >>6837657 I'll be the first to eat a crow if someone implements bhopping in Unity. It's a physics bug (feature) heavily tied to how the whole Quake engine works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:09:50 2020 No.6837669 >>6837424 Probably just a more improved version of that notebook thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:11:21 2020 No.6837670 >>6837664 >>6837632 There’s plenty of modern games with bunny hopping idiot

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:14:18 2020 No.6837675 >>6837664 You do realize the Quake engine is open source, and if devs wanted to recreate anything in it, they can just look at the code, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:32:05 2020 No.6837723 >>6837506 yeah but still Fuck Gearbox

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:40:23 2020 No.6837749 >>6837670 Like what? Titanfall? Its engine is Quake based. >>6837675 It's not cost productive to dismantle Unity's whole movement/physics layer and somehow try to replace it with Quake's. It's not gonna happen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 20:45:20 2020 No.6837761 >>6837675 open source doesnt always mean free commercial use

Anonymous Sat Sep 5 21:04:09 2020 No.6837798
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>>6837597
>pic related
From the 3D Realms Discord:
>engine wise, since we arent using idtech
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738806029705543710
>wat are you using?
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738865357447626874
>unity
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738868197079515208
>Oh it actually is unity straight up then
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738868636097314828
>to an extent, tho the original code remade for it
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738868886350331974
>Ahh okay that makes a bit more sense
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738868984241193013
>plus as we said initially, bethesda is not interested in licensing the idtech engine anymore. so not much choice in this regard
https://discord.com/channels/370945338087047180/641974439193477131/738869789610606672

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 5 21:10:52 2020 No.6837818 >>6836946 loved this game when it first released, but the hitscan ground my gears

Anonymous Sun Sep 6 00:41:06 2020 No.6838490
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https://web.archive.org/web/20141013040740/https://twitter.com/freschism/status/458908760975876097

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 6 11:31:11 2020 No.6839820 >>6837675 The Quake engine is GPL, and most developers avoid looking at GPL software because you are risking yourself to be forced to release the source code.

Anonymous Sun Sep 6 15:47:42 2020 No.6840574
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There's literally zero reason to ever play Kingpin again. It was not a good game. Its only claim to fame was all the "groundbreaking" profanity in the dialogue. Here, I'll save you the trouble:

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1599421615909.webm
There you go, that's every "fuck" from Kingpin, now you don't have to play it.

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