/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6826354
B+

the system that got us back into gaming

>>6826354
The quality of the library really went down the toilet after 1993 though.

>>6826354
The console that saved gaming

>>6826354
I have a bunch of roms but never delved into them much, what are the top games to start with?

>>6826354
NEC crushes Nintendo and Sega in Japan during the 4th gen with a great console and then fails massively in gen 5.

>>6826354
Ahhhhh the Turbo 16 Grafx Entertainment SuperSystem. Quintessential and retropilled thread.

>>6826375
>They made great games for 5 years straight
FTFY debbie downie

>>6826354
>politically correct engine
>politics
MODS

>>6827290
Except they didn't most of the big third parties ditched the system once Super Famicom launched. It was pretty much Hudson&NEC doing all the work, even the SF2 port was done internally by NEC you were left with PC oriented third parties such as MicroCabin,Kogado Studio and Artdink. High production titles such as Rondo of Blood are the outliers not the norm.

>>6826396
coryoon
soldier
hellfire
hana taaka daka
strip fighter

>>6826354
>the actual console is missing in OPs image
says a lot about the current state of the board

>>6827429
I guess if it makes you feel better to imagine that's what happened, ok? It's not like you missing on all these games affects anyone who matters.

Turbografx CD was so expensive in the US. The PC Engine case design was nicer too. I don't know why they had to change it.

>>6829261
IIRC it was some FCC bullshit

>>6829261
technically it was expensive everywhere and still is considering it's literally a cd player

are replacement lasers still available? i'll take 10 pack chink shit if i have to. I've got a turbo duo r and super cdrom that might need one.

>>6830529
the briefcase is the only one i know how to repair anon-kun

the gears strip& must be replaced
i chose the briefcase model as its modular and i can replace parts as needed

>>6829241
>imagine that's what happened, ok? It
I own the system you tard. Yeah PC ENGINE CD games including Super System 2 titles are pretty B- to C grade quality- Even the JRPGs whoopedee fucking doo, you have some shitty voiced cutscene(oh my GOD THIS FAMOUS JAPANESE VOICE ACTOR BEST GAME EVARRR, WHOOO CARES outside some otaku retard) and CD bgm during some boss fight. Yet the game itself looks like it is from 1989 despite being out late 1994.
Rondo of Blood is not the norm, because it goes beyond and above in absolutely every way.

>>6830638
i think the gimmick for us atleast
is that we have a system we never played/had from the time period.

so you still get the snes/genesis aesthetics and titles you havent played to death already.

yes not every title is a masterpiece
however, there are still some wonderful titles that slipped through the cracks for most gamers.


the cd quality sound really was ahead of its time

>>6830638
>i bought something on ebay. i am therefore an expert on it and my shit opinion means anything
>i'm super mad the famicom didn't magically become able to have SFC quality games when the SFC came out
kek

Why yes I do exclusively play Hucard games, how could you tell?

>>6831053
There are super system 2 games released during the mid 90s that have shittier graphical fidelity than Hu card games from 89-90. The developers realised all their CD based player base cared about was jacking off to famous voice actors(I guess you wapanese fucks call it seiyuu) and anime tits during cutscenes.
Cope seethe and dilate.

>>6830742
yea i think this is it. NEC is currently my favorite thing to explore. Both pc-88/98 and engine with all the add ons. How many people on this board were adults in late 80s with enough income and know how to import this stuff from japan? I was a kid in the 90s and maybe saw a turbo graphx in the wild once or twice. it's like a whole different world of games i missed out on.

>>6831194
this is what makes them cool and unique though.it's similar to the SD2SNES being able to have enhanced audio on the SNES. cool 2d games with cd audio is just awesome.

>>6831230
Tons of RPGs on Duo choose only to use CD BGM for special occasions as the loading times would be ass.

>>6829294
whats dumb is they could have used that extra footprint to still put the drive on top of. Or even better use the space and build in a multitap and market it as the first and only 5 input console out of the box

best hu-card games?

>>6831194
>i found two dogs that are black
>hurr durr all dogs are black
I get it man. You overpaid on ebay for a meme system only to find out it didn't have any Mario games. Sucks to be retarded. Personally I love all those old remakes with better graphics and CD sound. I even bought a bunch of CD games I already owned just for the music. And I bought this stuff new in 80's dollars. Feels great to have not been poor and stupid when I was your age.

anyone know a good way to remove dialogue in tracks for pce cd games clean? really want to listen to the music by itself.

>>6826354
yeah! where my ssds3 boyz at?

>>6833812
such a shame that something so handy completely ruins the aesthetic of the console

>>6833812
this is so expensive that i got the briefcase and a 100pack of cdrs instead

i do want it but im saving my lunch money for a neogeo aes system

>>6833384
not sure if this is even possible anon
the tracks (from sapphire atleast) have the japanese talking ON the audio tracks

>>6831297
out of touch with their own product and consumer base
just look at the commercials
literally idiots
they bankrupted themselves

>>6831230
i NEVER saw anything in the wild
except for one twinbee HU card
i had a few turbo games on wii VC
& once i saw what the cards looked like i was all in

>>6833812
now only if they made more than three of those

>>6826354
One of these days this guy will learn how to spell "personal"

>>6835037
i know the meme is stupid
but it makes me laugh everytime

>>6834998
that everdrive shell
i regret ordering the loose chip now

>>6826354
wow cd-rom squared

>>6827330
HE

>>6833812
It's me, your brother

What is the best shooter on the Pc-engine and why is it Tatsujin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6KqMUBSEWg

>>6833812
Busy fixing all the things wrong with it?

>>6834771
>talking on the tracks
Thats exactly what i feared. I wanted to hear the ending by itself.

>>6835772
I have the latest revision

>>6834998
stone age gamer is getting a shipment of those in soon I believe

>>6826354
Is the mini worth it?

Literally only has one worthwhile game, Rondo of Blood.

>>6837179
>i literally only wanted one PCE youtbue

>>6837179
cmon

there are tons of titles in the thread

heres a few more:
gunhead
gomola
magical fucking chase

>>6837171
for sapphire alone, yes.
i hate the idea of collecting mini consoles as (especially the pc engine) the original +everdrive is nearly the same price

Valkyrie No Densetsu

liquid kids
p a r o d i u s

>>6833979
I see what you mean, but I also appreciate that they went for the booster pack aesthetic, it's pure soul.

>>6837661
the "memory card" addon looks similar to this too

i dont even need it but still want it
the way the system was customizable/expandable really seals the deal for me

Do you think the Supergrafx would have put more of a dent in the industry, if they waited and gave it SuperFX tier processing ?

>>6835594
sauce on that md to pc engine controller shit. would love one of those

>>6835594
yes please sauce for... reasons
the stock turbos are fine honestly
but if i could use my usb sega saturn controller anon-kun.......

>>6838514
>>6838643
https://github.com/Infinest/GENESIS2PCE

>>6826354
I was shocked to find doujindance premodded duo r for 320 on ebay, I can't find separate parts of the pc engine to assemble the briefcase complete for cheaper. Only problem is I want one of the grey and blue ones and not the doctors office off white color, I can find recapped ones but they don't include an rgb mod and scart cable+controller

>>6838643
>yes please sauce for... reasons
>the stock turbos are fine honestly
>but if i could use my usb sega saturn controller anon-kun.......


This site has adapters that might work
https://bliss-box.net/

>>6826354
>emulates all your PCE games perfectly and outputs every supported PCE resolution natively through composite, S-Video and Component.
Heh

>>6839925
This is how I play pce and sega Cd primarily as a poorfag

>>6839937
I play pretty much every 240p console on my hacked wii with a gcn controller. Works fantastic on my CRT and my monitor through my OSSC.
The only systems it can struggle with are some arcade games so I play those on my cfw PS3, I have one of those Neo-Geo CD style microswitch controllers for it too for shmups and stuff. PS1 also gets played through my PS3 until we get a cheap and easy ODE solution.

>>6839952
Damn, I completely forgot the ps3 was so good at ps1 games. I don't have one with me but it has easy 240p output with component right? My ps3 slim is loud as fuck when the fan ramps up which is very annoying. What controller are you talking about? I don't often play ps1 games because the laser is unreliable and I am always afraid that at any time the laser will quit working and my long ass rpg saves will be useless

I feel like that with all Cd based consoles though kek. My question is why you would use a gem cube controller when you could use a wii pro controller? The main one I use is the golden one that was a pack in with goldeneye for the wii.

>>6839925
doesnt do CD mate

>>6840332
It does both PCE-CD and Sega CD.
Thats snatcher, a fucking sega CD game

>>6839726
thanks anon

i will try to source the components
but i honestly dont know if were gonna be able to find that pcb

>>6840340
i have a modded wii
what emulator are you using for pc engine

hell list the sega cd one also
does it include a channel wad?

>>6840360
google it faggot. I'm not in the business of spoonfeeding retards.

>>6840384
cool thank you so much for the help
very useful just like in real life

i have the complete retail library for pc engine & have tried several emulators for wii and none worked properly


so you're probably a lying faggot

>>6840783
>so you're probably a lying faggot
Or you're a fucking retard that can't manage to drag and drop a few files on an SD card.
Enjoy your "complete retail library" lmao

>>6840783
Wiimednafen retard, if you have the time to seek out every retail game for the console why the fuck can't you spend 10 minutes to find out working emulators
Jesus the fucking iq on this nigger.

>>6840790
>>6840817
maybe my version of the homebrew channel is outdated
but literally NONE of the ones we tried worked & definitely had zero cd system support


thanks anon
if you guys want ill post a mega for the pcengine library it's alphabetical and ready to drag and drop onto the turbo everdrive(has limits on # of files per folder)

>>6840968
have you ever emulated anything before? do you even know what a BIOS file is?

>>6840357
What do you mean?
You download the gerber files from the GitHub repository and then you can upload them on pcbway or any other pcb manufacturer's website and order some boards...

>>6830638
>I bought shit so I can't be a retard!

>>6829261
Try TG-16 mini.

>>6839925
Based Wii user

>>6840817
>still spoonfeeds him
You're the retard anon

>>6842357
on this underwater Mongolian image weaving shitpost board we probably are ALL retards.

>>6830545
where to you buy parts? console5 has some gears, but i've never bought lasers for any system. I just adjust until they die but NEC stuff is harder to come by.

what's wrong with spoonfeeding?

isn't that what we're here for?

>>6842559
Enjoy getting flooded with retards asking for tech support. There's an entire board dedicated to asking retarded questions that you can just google, use it idiots.

>>6840332
>>6840360
>>6840783
You can play Sega (Mega) CD on Genesis Plus GX and TGCD/PCECD on Wiimednafen, dude!

For Mega CD, get a bios of your choice for a region of your choice (or multiple ones, if you want to play various Japanese, American, and PAL games). Be sure to hit your preferred bios before starting the game you want to play with it. Make sure to have your Sega CD games in bin/cue format (drop both in the CD games folder), and you are good.

For TGCD, it's much trickier and very time-consuming, but you will be very happy once you get it set up the games in the proper way. I had trouble with this myself and extreme frustration until it all started clicking. First, download "syscard3.pce" ("PCE ROM-ROM version 3" or whatever it's called) and name it that exactly. Put the syscard3.pce file in the root of your wiimednafen folder. Then download a program called BinChunker. Download a program called "GoldWave", too. Now, follow each of these instructions PRECISELY, or the game will not work and you WILL be frustrated:

1. Download your TGCD game. Make a folder for the game and put the files you downlowded for it here.
2. Click on BinChunker, go to select all tracks, and click "convert". These will all be .wav files (except for the game data iso(s).
3. Go to GoldWave, go to "batch processing", change the output file to ".ogg", select the whole folder of your TGCD game and start. Let it finish and you will have .ogg versions of all the sound tracks. Delete or move elsewhere the .wav originals and .bin file.
4. Rename each track (including the iso data tracks) into sequential "Track01.(file type)", "Track02.(file type)", and so on as they are ALREADY ordered.
5. Take the .cue file into Notepad and relabel each track in this exact way
For .ogg tracks:
FILE TrackXX.ogg OGG
TRACK 01 AUDIO
PREGAP [numbers here, DO NOT ALTER]
INDEX 01 [numbers here, DO NOT ALTER]

For .iso tracks:
FILE TrackXX.iso BINARY
TRACK 02 MODE1/2048
[etc]

cont. 1/2

>>6842734
>>6840332
>>6840360
>>6840783
>>6840968
cont 2/2

(To clarify, the text I put in brackets, don't add that to the notepad file)
(Sometimes "PREGAP" doesn't appear. If it doesn't, don't add it. In general, don't mess with the "PREGAP" or "INDEX 01" sections as they already appear)

6. TRIPLE CHECK to make sure all the files in the notepad and in the folder in general are re-labeled correctly. Save.
7. Drop the finished folder into your WiiMednafen > TurboGrafx/PC Engine folder.
8. Click on the cue file to play the game! If you did anything wrong and it displays "[Error loading file.]" instead of starting the game, you mislabeled something and need to go back and fix your error(s).

The nice thing about PC Engine CD files edited this way is that you're saving a ton of space and can put thirty or more games on your card! This is especially relevant if you already have a lot of N64, PS1, arcade, Sega CD etc huge roms on there.

I hope this helps, anon. I had a ton of trouble figuring all this out myself back in 2013, and I forgot and can't find the tutorials I used to learn how to do this, so this is all on my memory from doing a billion times. If you need any help or suspect I got anything wrong, let me know and I'll try to help you out from there.

By the way, every copy of The Dynastic Hero files I have downloaded had a corrupt and/or out of order .cue sheet and missing tracks, so I'll just give you my fixed and pre-edited version of my own. Soon, I plan on uploading in a different thread all my Wii retro game SD files that I've been working on for a decade or more at this point, so that you can have a premade and curated (hopefully to your taste, but you can edit it how you like) Homebrew Channel card.

Also, MAKE SURE you have downloaded all the latest updates of all the emulators, anon! Wiibrew.org.


Now, if anyone would like to help me in clear and stupid-person detail with how to play arcade and MVS/AES games on here, I would be much obliged!!

>>6842734
>>6842892
screenshot saved anon-kun
thank u

>>6842892
>>6842734
>>6840332
>>6840360
>>6840783
>>6840968
Here's my rare, fixed, edited-for-Wiimednafen Dynastic Hero file I mentioned earlier. Link is for anonfile. You can also look at its cue file in notepad as a reference for what your other games' cue files should look like. Remember: don't edit the pregap/index 01 numbers that are already in each games cue file! Hope you enjoy, my friends! /Jdc715S4o0/The_Dynastic_Hero_zip

>>6842903
My pleasure, anon! Let me know if you think I messed up anywhere once you try this out (make a thread about it if you need to). I tried to be clear and as detailed as possible, but I'm going mainly off of memory, so I'm sorry if I fail you at any point.

>>6842734
>>6842892
good tutorial but you overcomplicated everything starting in 3. for no reason

just go here, download and play lol
https://archive.org/details/redump.pcecd

>>6843001
do i need ogg?
i have an actual cd system but testing things out on the wii will extend the overall life of the console

>>6842557
the plan
when the laser fails
replace w/ new as the briefcase is modular like the sega CD

>>6826354
Based af

>>6826354
Thread theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKWCXZuVOl0

I just picked this up a couple of days ago. Ordered Gradius and R-Type. What are some must haves on this?

This Wii faggot that keeps popping up, what's the input lag like on emulated stuff. Serious question.

>>6843778
How much did it run you?

>>6842734
>>6842892
>spoonfeeding retards for free

>>6844157
it depends on your setup but ranges from less than a frame to 3 frames
that's including monitor lag for flatscreens

>>6826354
Do any madmen here own a PAC-N1 or PAC-N10 for LaserActive? If so, how do you like it?

I’ve got a LA and the NEC PAC is the only major one I don’t have, so I was wondering if it had any worthwhile benefits like how the Sega PACs have the best Genesis composite signals.

>>6844891
Traded some stuff for it but it was 200

>>6845620
This used to be difficult for me (perhaps I'm a retard), and other people have helped me out with similar things before, so I didn't mind helping out anon with this at all. I don't consider it spoonfeeding, anyway, unless it's something extremely easy and fast to look up and the only thing preventing you from having/knowing it is laziness, but things that are complicated and hard to find such as this (for me at least) are a different story, at least to me.

>>6843778
girls of hawaii

>>6843778
blazing lazers
darius series
soldier series
dragon spirit
magical chase
gunhed

>>6846075
this sounds insane
but if the controller ports are identical and you already have the LA
it could be worthwhile

@ $600+ i dont see myself picking one up in this lifetime

i try playing pce cd on bizhawk but when i load a .ccd or .cue it just closes out entirely

>>6826363
What game is this? I want to get into PC Engine and I love 80's kino anime scifi art like this.

>>6826354
Any Shantae?

>>6849865
sapphire

>>6849747
you need syscard3 configured properly
all the cd games need various cd/pc upgrade cards to run

>>6849865
that's mid 90s