/vr/ - Retro Games

Best Metroid game I've played, even though it's a little hand-holdy.

Westerners were always better at FPS, and japanese were always better at side-scrollers, this isn't a secret.
Also OP, Metroid II on Game Boy is the best, so it doesn't matter if you prefer Prime or Super, neither is the best in the series.

>unnecessary fetch quest at the very end
This reason alone it makes super metroid far better. Plus I found myself backtracking and wondering back and forth a whole lot more than I did in super. Probably the lack of shortcuts or something.

This dumb opinion ("hurr a fucking horrible bad controls bad gameplay console FPS is better than a real fucking action platformer") is exactly why /vr/ should be pre-1995. Retro is a type of game, not a time period. Fuck off to /v/, children.

>>6814735
>Fuck off to /v/, children.
6th gooners aren't children, they're hairy ass adults who aren't old enough to have experienced the golden age, but also not young enough to be zoomers.

>>6814763
In our shit society, anyone under the age of 30-35 are technically children because they were raised in the stupid ages and have no intelligence or common sense.

>>6814735
Metroid as an action platformer sucks, play a real one

>>6814789
Whatever, what I mean is that 6th gooners are a specific demographic of guys in their older 20s, who grew up with 6th gen (and maybe late 5th gen), but not anything prior.
They aren't the same as kids who grew up with 7th gen.

>>6814692
>Miyamoto was the executive producer and pushed for the fps perspective and managed all of development
>EAD also assisted in development
By holding westcuck's hand through development and laughing all the way to the bank.

>>6814821
They had a better childhood so?

>>6814828
6th gooners, a better childhood? I don't know. They were alive during the best era of the free internet, before Web 2.0 actually took over, but they were too young to make actual good use of it, probably didn't venture outside of newgrounds and stuff.
6th gooners are a weird bunch, they didn't get to experience much of the world pre-9/11, and they also got their late youth cucked by corona. I guess it is worse to get cucked by corona being a teenager though, but at the same time, 6th gooners had to live their teen and early 20s years in the 2010s, the era of political correctness and all that.
I don't know, I don't think 6th gooners had a necessarily better childhood than zoomers.

>>6814847
Zoomers had it better than both, do you realize people can play old games? The newer generation will always have more games to choose from

>>6814692
Your in for a disappointment if you think Metroid Prime was a solely western development.
https://nintendoeverything.com/metroid-prime-director-on-making-the-game-nintendos-influence-leaving-retro/

Props to Kenji Yamamoto for an amazing soundtrack.

>>6814853
>The newer generation will always have more games to choose from
Kids nowadays have access to centuries of great baroque and classical music.
But do you think they're paying attention to it?

>>6814857
>>6814827
Can I kindly petition for these posts to be deleted? Thanks.

>>6814872
You mad, brah?

>>6814735
Reported

>>6814865
False equivalence, unless the kid cares about music he wouldn't even know the current music, an actual non normalfag gamer kid would play the previous installments of his favorite series

>>6814893
Maybe you're right anon, maybe you're right.
I used to think being a gooner was the best, but maybe zoomers really got it better.
Although they're still cucked by the pandemic.

NOOO GAIJIN-SAN I GET MOTION DRUNKNESS WHEN I SEE FIRST PERSON VIEW IT'S TOO REAL I GO INSAAAANE

>>6814914
Read:
>>6814827
>>6814857

>>6814813
Castlevania 4 is better

>>6814919
Bloodlines > 4

>>6814930
I wish because I'm more of a Sega fan than Nintendo, but Bloodlines has really shitty level design sadly, and some really boring bosses.
Great music though but the same can be said for most of the series so moot point.

>>6814692
Perhaps you should ask this on /v/, we only play retro games here.

>>6814971
Gamecube is retro now

>>6814971
6th gooners =/= zoomers

>>6814692

It's a good game but it isn't better than Super Metroid. It has a weaker atmosphere; in particular the music is bland until you occasionally hear a remixed Super Metroid tune. And the game is forever shoving its overwritten lore in your face, whereas Super Metroid tells you what's happening efficiently through pantomime and never asks you to look away from the normal game graphics or to temporarily abandon the fun game you're playing in favor of some nerd's medium-quality fanfiction.

Also, of course, going 3D here has the same problem as in Ocarina of Time: The uniformly tile-based world of the preceding 2D game could conceivably hide secrets EVERYWHERE, allowing a feeling of mystery and free exploration, and allowing paths to indeed be hidden anywhere. But the relatively clumsy and expensive 3D models of the newer game are non-interactive props by default, and must be expensively hand-altered to support secret paths. It's generally not enough for some map artist to just paint in a clever secret path in the simple, grid-based map editor. Unique machinery often has to be built to support each hidden way. And unique setpieces tend to stand out, so they are often easy to find, and tend not to feel very natural when they are found.

Also, of course, animations naturally tend to become more realistic and less stylized during the transition to 3D, which tends to make them lengthier. A sprite animation might unceremoniously skip a few moments in order to make an in-game character do something boring (like opening a door or a chest or brandishing a weapon or whatever) instantaneously, whereas a 3D animation will tend to try to show every detail. And showing more takes longer. Simultaneously, game developers are tempted to act as movie directors, though they have little skill at that and it clashes with their medium; and sometimes they fall to this temptation to the detriment of their games. FF summons is the best example, but action games exhibit this too.

>>6814692
Why is it so slow? Why was the artifact hunt so poorly handled? Why are the bosses so boring? I wish this game was as good as everyone says it is. Seems like the entire Gamecube library is skippable.

>>6815226

Pikmin, Killer7, Monkey Ball 1 and 2, Resident Evil 1 and 4, F-Zero GX. That right there is enough to justify an entire console.

>>6814712
Also SP, Metroid on NES is the best, so it doesn't matter if you prefer Prime or II, neither is the best in the series

>>6814971
back to the nursing home, grandpa

Nintendo doesn't care about the Metroid series and the Japanese market doesn't really get it either. Metroid is about 10x as big in the US as it ever has been in Japan.

>>6815246
>ports, inferior ports, and inferior arcade games
yawn

>>6815274
Why is that exactly? Makes me want to get into to Metroid just to spite the Nips.

>>6814692
>Japs, co-develop, fund and profit from their venture
>How will they recover?
By funding, co-developing and profiting from future sequels?

>>6814827
>>6814857
Op here. I didn't realize Metroid Prime was a co-op effort between Nintendo JPN and Retro. Man, I feel like a filthy cocksucker. The kind of cocksucker that hangs out in big city, public bathroom stalls on Friday nights and shuffles his feet when other dudes enter as a signal that yes, I do indeed suck stranger cock.

japs cannot into 3d controls

>>6814930
X68k > either

PChads win again.

>>6817047
Mario 64 and Zelda's Z targeting laid the ground work for interaction in 3D. Stay mad, West cuck.

>>6817097
they can lay the foundation all they want, they didn't age well. the developer that made games that actually aged well on the n64 is rare, not a jap outfit. banjo kazooie and conker take steaming hot diarhea shits on mario 64 and zelda

>>6817172
>they didn't age well
ah, so this is the power of nu-/vr/.

>>6817097
>This is what Nincels actually believe
Your company didn't innovate shit, mate.

>>6814712
>FPS

>>6817172
>didn't age well
Stop this meme. Computer code doesn't magically alter over time. It's your perception that changed because you played too much modern trash.

>>6817286
Nintendo didn't "invent" anything. They took existing ideas and streamlined, polished, and refined them.
>>6817172
>banjo kazooie and conker take steaming hot diarhea shits on mario 64 and zelda
imagine actually believing this. Mario's movement is far more advanced and dynamic than anything in those games.

>>6817172
Can't speak for Mario 64 but I played Ocarina of Time a few years back (1st time ever) and the camera/controls were just fine.

>>6817097
Its well known that z-targeting was done years before zelda 64 by several other games.

>>6814701
turn off the hint system

>>6814692
They were completely different games. The original Metroid trilogy felt like digging deep into enemy territory, hostile and claustrophobic, focused on action. Prime trilogy was more like exploring an uncharted planet, spacious and mostly quiet, focused on scanning for lore and solving puzzles.
Either is fine by me personally, it's up to your preference.

Not retro.

>implying non-nips can make fun games

obviously you don't have to look up that the Japanese made a game, such as that one, or ones if you count all Primes, to know 'they' made it, the Japanese.

>>6814847
Rent free