/vr/ - Retro Games

It's not good though. Comparing it to Kirby 64 is also not a good sign. Play Kirby's Adventure and then compare.

>>6755902
Because people wanted Super Star 2 and we're upset that Dream Land 3 isn't that. DL3 is a much more slower experience that relies on atmosphere, experimental puzzle solving, and ambiance to deliver it's experience. It also creates challenge by restriction. As such many people get pleb filtered by it.

>>6755902
>1997
The N64 had already been out for more than a year so the SNES was a dinosaur. Kirby rocks, but a 2D SNES game in the landscape of gen5 just didn't really have much of a chance.

>>6755928
>Comparing it to Kirby 64 is also not a good sign
>It's not good
Wow how does it feel to be the wrongest person I've replied to all day.

>>6755902
diaper baby game

>>6755902
yea its bad, just like 64. play adventure if you want a good game

>>6755974
you're comparing it to the most mediocre Kirby platformer not named Squeak Squad and Star Allies

>>6755902
People don't talk about it because its a bad kirby game

I like the dark matter games a lot more than the Sakurai ones. I feel like these games focused on being charming and cosy, while Sakurai tried to push more of a badass Kirby, which doesn't really work in my mind.

>>6755902
Hang yourself.

>>6755902
>switch VC
I wish this was true

>>6755902
The graphics and companions are comfy af

This thread is full of fags, Dark Matter trilogy is based

>>6755902
Because Kirby Superstar babies like the first poster wanted a faster experience, whereas Kirby’s Dreamland 3 is a successor to the original Gameboy Kirby style. It’s the Super Nintendo’s ultimate filter, really. Congrats on not having shit taste, OP.

>>6758172
It's on the SNES classics though? VC = virtual console.

>>6755902
Welcome to the Dark Matter Trilogy!
https://wikirby.com/wiki/Dark_Matter_Trilogy
The reason Kirby’s Dreamland 3 feels so much like Kirby 64 is because Dreamland 2, 3, and Kirby 64 are part of a trilogy of titles by Shinichi Shimomura, a man who worked on the first Dreamland title and then took the reigns of the Dreamland series while Kirby creator Masahiro Sakurai developed Kirby’s Adventure and Kirby Superstar. All three titles in the series feature the villain Dark Matter, as well as appearances from Kirby’s animal friends, and Kirby 64 in particular has references to Dreamland 3 (the character Adeleine is believed to be the “Ado” you fight in KDL3, and also some of the songs return).

It was rumoured that Sakurai and Shimomura didn’t see eye to eye on how Kirby should play, and K64 was sadly the last game he directed for HAL. Fans have tried for years to uncover the truth of what happened to him, but he seems to have disappeared after the early 2000s, and Nintendo has declined to comment on his fate. One dark rumor is that he died of cancer and was working on another Kirby game when he passed.

>>6755902
It's the doki doki panic of Kirby. Too stupid to understand? Download special tee shot. Thats why nobody talks about it. It isn't a fucking Kirby game.

>>6758497
>Too stupid to understand?
Maybe I don't get it because we're not talking about dream course. I'll assume I have the brain problems.

>>6758497
Oh and here's Kirby avalanche. Also not a Kirby game. Sorry fuckhead

>>6758497
Are you on medication? Kirby’s Dreamland 3 is very much a Kirby game, so why are you using Special Tee Course/Kirby’s Dream Course as an example?

>>6758497
>>6758503
look at this retard and laugh

>>6758503
Yeah, that's a total rip off of Mean Bean Machine.

>>6758493
Damn that's actually super unfortunate. RIP that guy. I'm probably gonna go through and play the rest of the dreamland series. I don't understand why people are so eager to hate on the non-sakurai games, despite them being super solid. A bit slower paced, sure but they're still a lot of fun.

>>6755902
Its not even a fucking kirby game lol

>>6758536
>Has Kirby in the name
>You play as Kirby
>Set in Kirby universe
>Filled with Kirby enemies and friends
Yes, it is lol.

>>6758539
Ok zoomer

>>6758552
>Be you
>Be wrong
>Say the twitter word
I can't stop winning.

>Just finished playing through this little gem on switch VC.
there has never been a thread that started with this and wasn't absolutely awful
why dont you zoomers stay on /v/?

>>6758573
Your samefag is showing

>>6758581
>baby zoomie believes that only one person csn realize how atrocious his post was
zoomzoom wants to cry?

>>6758585
Well I mean I watched the post number go up but not the number of posters so your samefag is LITERALLY showing.

>>6758585
>>6758573
Pathetic.

>>6758586
what can I say retard, you didnt do a good job watching it because this was my first post here >>6758573
and of course, it doesnt surprise at all that zoom doesnt know how to use 4chan X

>>6758593
>Look mom I said zoom again do I fit in now?

>Oh look, a comfy thread about an Anon discovering a /vr/ game! Better shit the bed by being a humongous shitcock to everyone.

>>6758606
OP here, I'm gonna marathon the other two dreamland games and then 64, and probably enjoy myself. I'm going to make more posts about it, and give these kids something more to be upset about.

Zoomtown

>>6758609
Do it, man! I’ve been a Kirby fan for years and years, but somehow it wasn’t until 2017 that I finally played Dreamland 2 and 3. The first Dreamland is super short and easy. Dreamland 2 is a bit harder than 3, but I’m sure you’ll enjoy it (it’s actually a lot more like Kirby’s Adventure than the first DL, oddly enough). I look forward to seeing what you think of them!

>>6758609
>probably enjoy myself
Ah, so you're in the mood for suicide! You will be, halfway into DL3's completion minigame challenges, tops.

>>6758554
He mean it's not a traditional Kirby, but rather a Chinese knockoff-esque version of a Kirby game.

>>6758687
Yet made by the team who made the previous game in the series. Gotcha.

>>6758718
And?

>>6758681
>You will be
Why will I be? It's not like they were hard or anything.

>>6758632
Kirby's Dream Land (Gameboy) was my first ever video game, so the series has always held a special little place in my heart. I've just never gotten around to playing the other classics, despite playing most of the other ones in the series. Most recently I 100%'d Tengen Toppa Kirby Lagann, and loved the shit out of that too, so I'm kinda excited to jump back and see the roots of the series.

This isn't even a real Kirby game.

>>6758756
But they were pretty annoying. Redpill me on how not to go insane getting all the enemy cards in 64, as that's the only one I haven't 100%

>>6758723
>>6758762
So if it has Kirby in the name, you play as Kirby, made by the same studio that made other Kirby games, plays like a Kirby game, what stops it from being a Kirby game? You're delusional.

>>6758497
dipshit anons are always so quick to talk down to people, even when it makes them look like absolute retards

slow the fuck down and read before you reply to something, just because you can be as retarded as you want with no consequences doesn't mean you should

>>6758769
The only one I had to run back a couple times was the jumping minigame. I still didn't quite get the hang of it but bumbled my way to ten for the point anyways. As far as 64 cards go it's been a while but I just spammed the second level a bunch I think, using double fire to mash my way through and spam cards. It was certainly a pain in the ass, but only because of the RNG elements, boiling it down to an actual grind.

>>6758772
Gameplay is mostly different from the structure of DL1, unlike Adventure and Super Star, which are built upon DL1's structure. DL2 might arguably be considered to based on Adventure's structure, though, perhaps.

>>6758773
It's a shitpost, but weeb attention whores need to dilate, true.

Man, this isn't even a real Kirby game.

>>6758825
Yes it is, and you're a bad samefag

>>6758756
>Tengen Toppa Kirby Lagann
Took me a minute to figure out which Kirby that is, then I lol’d
>>6758762
Stop spamming this, we heard you the first time.
>>6758785
...literally every Kirby game after the first one is “mostly different” thanks to the inclusion of Kirby’s copy ability. Aside from having a partner character there’s almost no difference at all between Dreamland 2 and 3’s core gameplay elements.

>>6758854
>...literally every Kirby game after the first one is “mostly different” thanks to the inclusion of Kirby’s copy ability. Aside from having a partner character there’s almost no difference at all between Dreamland 2 and 3’s core gameplay elements.
Nah, there's a different structure between the Sakurai Trilogy and the Dark Matter Trilogy. While DL2 tried to be an Adventure clone with higher difficulty and multiple endings + animals, DL3 and 64 built upon the structure of DL2, just as Adventure built upon DL1 and Super Star built on Adventure. They're all still Kirby games, but the Dark Matter Trilogy doesn't use fundamentals of classical Kirby gameplay.

Doods, this isnt even a Kirby game.

>>6758912
And who decides the fundamentals of classic Kirby gameplay? You yourself just described two separate branches of Kirby’s evolution. And indeed, they are. Sakurai Kirby and Shimomura Kirby are both Kirby.

>>6758953
Literally this. Why is this hard for people to figure out?

>>6758926
rite? I mean its obvious its a Starfy game

>>6758953
Because Adventure built upon the game that started it all, and Shimomura Kirby built upon a game that was already built upon the original game, then went its own way. Sakurai Kirby is still around in the form of Smash Bros., really.

>>6759147
Dude, they sort of both went their own way. There is nothing like the partner mechanic in Adventure nor the fast paced, frenetic action that Superstar has. Not to mention all the Shinya Kumazaki directed games that came later, which all add their own unique twists on the formula.

>>6755902
Simply that Super Star was the bigger game with more depth and a faster pace. Dream Land 3 is great. It's a cozy little plaformer with some creative ideas and a fantastic sense of atmosphere, but as people have something to compare it against, it ultimately falls out of recognition

>>6755928
It is a part of the same canon as 64 though:

A:
Dream Land
Adventure
Super Star

B:
Dream Land 2
Dream Land 3
64

>>6759449
Yeah, I agree. While I enjoy Sakurai's far more overall, I still enjoy the Dark Matter games a lot when I want something different yet with a comfy atmosphere.

Is this even a real Kirby game tho..

>>6758606
/vr/ is total cancer, haven’t you sussed that out yet? People exist here solely to be elitists.

>>6755902
DL3 is good enough, great music and art style, but it can't top Metaknight's Revenge and Great Cave Offensive (in that order)

>>6758606
Only a complete fucking zoomer faggot uses the word, "comfy", to describe anything videogame related.

>>6759683
Yes.

>>6755902
Because Super Star came out before it and was a monumentally better game. The mission stuff is clunkily executed. The core gameplay is nowhere near as good as Super Star's, and while the game is more difficult which should be a good thing, it's not because it's that much harder, it simply doesn't play as well and most abilities don't do much for you with only a handful being useful in any regard.

>>6759972
Sadly, I bet people would have overlooked Super Star had it come out after this due to "muh grafix".

Not retro.

>>6761926
If Halo 1 is retro, than Kirby's Dream Land 3 (Which also happens to be a Kirby game, and also happens to be pretty good) is a retro game. Sorry kid.

>>6761926
>November 27, 1997
Neck yourself.

>>6759972
>The mission stuff is clunkily executed
Good thing there is no “mission stuff” in the game.
>The core gameplay is nowhere near as good as Super Star's,
Do you Superstarfags have a divulge original thought inside your heads? You could’ve at least gone through your shitty list of reasons that Superstar is better, like it’s faster paced and muh abilities.

>>6759839
I’m 36 years old, faggot. Stop sperging out over people using words you don’t like, only unironic autists do that.

>>6762351
Zoomer alert

>>6762584
>Look ma, I used the buzzword again!

adventure > superstar > DL2 > DL3 > DL1
Dreamland 3 is too slow.
never played the N64 one but I'd assume it's either ever so slightly better or worse than 3.

>>6763316
64 had great weapons, but that's it. I know Kirby games are generally not hard, but 64 was braindead compared to its predecessors. 3 is fun, I liked that your animal friends could give your powerups different effects. Yeah, it's a little on the slow side, but not much more than your average Kirby game. Also, it had one of the best final bosses in the series. Zero is better than 02, harder and more fun to fight.

pffft this aint a kirby game

>>6763529
You're not a Kirby game

>>6763316
DL1 is above DL3, easily.

>>6763537
>no copy ability
>six stages long
You're retarded.

>>6763545
>muh copy ability
>muh number of stages
But the gameplay and replay value is endless.

>>6763550
And DL3's isn't because waaaah it's too slow. We've heard it all before.

>>6763535

>>6763553
I guess if you like puzzle platformers rather than Kirby games, DL3 is great.

>>6763559
The hell are you talking about? I can only think of one stage that's heavy on puzzles. I'm sure there are more, but it doesn't deviate from the Kirby formula more than, say, Great Cave Offensive.

>>6763559
There's maybe like.... two Kirby games I can think of that don't employ any puzzles whatsoever. You're basically shitting on the entire franchise bro. I love DL1, but come on.

>>6763559
By that logic, only kirby games without his iconic copy ability are Kirby games.. meaning that there's only one, plus spinoffs such as canvas curse?

>>6763573
>>6763580
>>6763587
Anything else you want seethe about? DL3 is a Kirby game but with very little Kirby gameplay.

>>6763592
You keep saying all these buzzwords without making any real points. Kirby in the name, kirby as the playable character, kirby enemies and friends, kirby music, Kirby copy ability. Hate to say it kid, but it's a Kirby game through and through.

>>6763596
>kirby friends
They were made and used only in the non-Sakurai games, so no.
>kirby enemies
Some (Burt, Gordo, etc), not all.
>kirby music
Questionable. "Happy/peaceful" is not necessarily the same as that orchestrated sound of the Sakurai games.

>>6763592
I'm perfectly calm anon. You're the only one getting bent out of shape here. You're just not making very many good points here. Saying it's not a Kirby game because it varies up level design with some environmental puzzles isn't a sound argument, especially when you consider the fact that plenty of titles, like 2, did this very same thing.

Even if what you said about puzzles was true, its core mechanics are consistent with the series. You inhale enemies, spit them out at other enemies, float, amd make air pellets, and levels are designed around these mechanics.

Like I said, I love Dreamland 1, but I'm not convinced by your arguments that 3 isn't inherently Kirby.

>>6763604
>only in the non-Sakurai games
But Sakurai isn't the authority, so in fact he was wrong for not having included them.

>>6763604
>Questionable. "Happy/peaceful" is not necessarily the same as that orchestrated sound of the Sakurai games.
Both the Sakurai and the Shimomura games (minus Dreamland 2) feature compositions by Jun Ishikawa, you turbo autist. Same composer, same style of compositions, same sound engine and instruments used.

Before that autist wakes up from his nappy, yes, this is a Kirby game.

Holy fuck this retard trolled you for almost 100 posts. Stop fucking feeding him and he will starve. We could even continue to compare and contrast kirby games and just not respond to what is a very obvious troll. Is it reddit? Is it because you morons can't tell a troll without a bunch of downvotes? Jesus fuck.

Also DL2 was my first kirby game, I didn't play DL3 for years until I emulated it. Sure, it's different but it's a dope game. People will always shit on whats different, even now. Look at modern fps, different doesn't sell as well (Bioshocks/Borderlands) than shit that's rehashed over and over (CoD/Halo). This has echoed from the 3rd gen into the present because gamers can't handle change. Anytime a game deviates from series' history people shit bricks, no matter how good the game is.

>>6763619
>>6764919
Don't worry, I'm not that fag who keeps posting that DL3 isn't a Kirby game. I said it is, here, more than once. It's definitely not as good as DL1, though, though I do like it, too, as I also said in this thread.

This isnt even a kirby game bros.

Dreamland 3 is tight. Love the pastel visuals and music. The whole game feels really melancholy for some reason and they never went that way again.

>>6755902
Because it’s boring as shit

>>6766320
>The whole game feels really melancholy for some reason and they never went that way again
Glad I'm not the only who feels that. The whole time playing it I couldn't stop thinking about the rumor that the director died tragically and that that was why Nintendo stopped using Kirby's animal friends in later games.

>>6755902
Its slower than DL2, it's a good looking Kirby but it just feels so sluggish

>>6763535
Ur moms not a Kirby game

>>6763463
At least 64 doesn't let you jump infinitely

>>6766350
Did he die?

>>6766361

This. Doesn't exacty invite me to revisit it easily.

>>6766370
No one knows. The Kirby fandom has been trying to get answers about him for years, but Nintendo's not saying anything. Shit's mysterious as hell.