/vr/ - Retro Games

Wait a couple years so we can talk about actually good racing games

Any excuse to gush over this gem.

>>6750249
I really don’t get the hype for this. It’s a decent game but most of the content is padding for just getting 300 cars you’ll never really use with the actual grand prix being really short. I prefer 64 and 2 on PSP

absolutely BASED msr-spam.
>>/vr/?task=search2&search_media_hash=mRTJ1dREcFlIw61IlMVcOg%3D%3D

Rush 2 has held up very well

next week we're getting a racing vidya board

>>6750320
Please

>>6750317
2049 is better.

>>6750328
I like it too but it feels more floaty

I think /vr/'s taste in racing games may be just as shit as /v/'s.

Anyway, this is my favorite retro racing game but RRRRRREEEE N64 and all that shit.

>>6750352
OP here, Rush 2 is great

>>6750249
>>6750258
I like the game, but the reason why Type 4 gets massive praise is because people probably "beat" the Grand Prix once, the equivalent of playing a coin-op game once, which is enough play time to gush over the insanely good late 90s Namco production like graphics, music, and SOUL. The truth is you practically require a spreadsheet to play Type 4 for real. If you thought flight and space sims were autistic, this PS1 arcade racer says hello.

There are a combination of 321 cars in the game (20 cars for each 4 manufacturers then paint job rehash for each of the 4 teams, plus a Pac Man bonus car). In order to unlock them, you need to use every unique combination of racing team (game difficulty), car manufacturer (handling model), and finish in very specific positions THROUGHOUT the grand prix.

For example, picking team Pac Racing Club and manufacturer Assoluto, finishing in these EXACT positions 3rd > 3rd > 2nd > 1st > 1st > 1st > 1st > 1st will specific unlock car 1, 2, 7, and 14.

Pic related that's my spreadsheet from a few years ago before I wanted to commit sudoku and played Rage Racer instead.

>>6750397
Jesus, that’s so repetitive and one reason I think RR4 is overrated

>>6750408
Repetition is not even my complaint, it's when you have to finish in 3rd and 2nd so you spend the entire last 2 laps riding up the AI's asshole and push them through the track, and should I remind you that in Ridge Racer you "bump" instead.

>>6750397
I was never really into the inherent deepness when it comes to the cars with R4.
I just love the overall aesthetic. Very chic.

>>6750425
I don’t know why it doesn’t just unlock them if you get first, pretty much any other game would do that. I do like RR4 I will say and it’s a good game but it’s far from my favorite in the series

>>6750352
I remember playing glitchy PC port on my friend's PC back in the day. It was okay, but when I got myself a dreamcast with a pirated copy of SF Rush 2049 hoo boy that was a real talk. Gorgeous looking tracks, nice selection of cars (including BMW FUCKING Z9), strange but kinda fun unlocking system and the soundtrack is just GOAT.

>>6750242
I love everything about NFS2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69-J2m_GyhI
especially the music though.

>>6751119
I’ve always heard this is the shit one, is it actually good and I was lied to?

>>6751121
The dog was my favorite character

What should I play?

>>6750248
Ain't that the fucking truth. Seriously, what's the point of talking about racing games without most of the GT series, most of NFS, Midnight Club, fucking Tokyo Extreme. Might as well just give up.

>>6753425
Richard Burns Rally
Midnight Club 2
Burnout 3

>>6753425
Side by Side Special 2000 and beat my Akina (downhill) time with the NSX or FD3S, it's 2:58.09. Good luck.

What was the N64 racing game with the short-haired Japanese chick as a mascot?

>>6753505
Ridge racer 64, she’s the mascot for ridge racer

>>6753505
That's a man.

tokyo racer is my fav on dreamcast mang

>>6750242
Great game, love driving that one. But I still prefer pic related for aesthetics.
Also, Dreamcast had some of the best racing games ever.

W3SE

Racing games seem to be the big genre I want to pursue on my Windows 9x PC.

>>6753453
Tokyo Xtreme is already retro

>>6750242
Open up your boipussy for that raw soul injection

>>6750242
"Who are you?"
"I'm you, but stronger"

>>6757167
I want 6th gen solely to discuss this

>>6757319
Kudos to you fellow 6th gen chad

>>6751181
Its not shiot, its just more arcadey than people were expecting coming from the very down to earth 3DO version of TNFS.

>>6757389
PC or PSX better?

>>6757393
PC by far - more content and better effects. If running on modern hardware you'll need to run a glide wrapper as D3D is broken (and lel software mode). All of the first wave NFS games (save TNFS as it is too old) are best using glide on PC.

The first - absolutely very first - game I played when I got my 4k monitor was NFSII just because it tickles me playing old games at stupid resolutions they were never designed for. It waited 20 odd years to find out what was on this fucking sign.

Fuck it i'm bored and love to go go fast old school style so i'm going to dump some screenshots and webms of racing vidya from 2000 and older.

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>>6757363
Really? Someone reported an image in a thread that was bothering nobody? Fucking limp dick losers

Thanks for not naming the webms after the games, I fucking hate it when people do that.

>>6757504
np

I mean, you could also just ask, but spoon feeding is preferred eh? Then again none of these are obscure games (except for maybe vanishing point).

People generally like to criticise this version for the controls. But, with a little tweaking, this version of Daytona USA is one of my favourite ports of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AukxUlT1Yg

480p @60fps via VGA. Virtually no pop-in. Actually, a good conversion of the arcade game. I can see why some people would not be a fan of the aesthetics of the DC version, and I prefer the voice audio samples and music of the original. DC game also supported 4 player races online. Which was fun as shit, when they worked. Though the lag through a 56k modem could be pretty bad.

>>6757319
Am I to assume that the post you quoted was about Burnout?

>>6757540
Wooooooow going in a circle is fucking epic bro

> better than MK64
> won't change my mind

>>6757563
>Wooooooow going in a circle is fucking epic bro

That's just the beginner course. Of course there there would be one that is a complete oval. Dinosaur Canyon and Seaside are where the game shines. Though Dreamcast port does have a couple courses from CCE and three additional original courses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbiewgH7Ss

>>6757563
/vr/ is hopeless.

>>6757556
Project Gotham

>>6757604
One of the few reasons to own the OG xbox.

>>6757563
>Wooooooow going in a circle is fucking epic bro

There was a much more realistic NASCAR simulation from 1994 from papyrus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd5S_tCZoc

I remember this game running like dog shit on my friends PC back in the 90's, but the car crash simulations were actually pretty spectacular.

>>6757615
Isn't turn left simulator 2003 like the best racing game ever made?

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>>6750328
My thoughts exactly. Been playing 1 and 2 on the N64 recently, and it just isn't satisfying to play long term. 2049 really upped the feel and balance and refined the tracks.

>>6753453
GT is PS1, Tokyo Xtreme is Dreamcast, Need for Speed is 3DO and PS1, relax.

>>6753478
Never heard of this game. Battle Gear predecessor? Worth a buy? I'm tempted.

>>6757556
Project gotham but burnout too now that you mention it

>>6757396
Sexy Nazca.

>>6757657
Looks even better a year later and when the shackles of DOS are gone.

>>6757647
>Need for Speed is 3DO and PS1

There is also a Sega Saturn port of Need For Speed 1. It was quite good. But EA killed their Saturn support pretty early and focused more on the PS1 and PC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWPFoXKQhCU

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>>6757520
what gaems

I know that's a lot to answer for, but genuinely curious.

>>6757530
There's a lot I missed out on so I can't recognize some of these. I'm getting the opportunity to explore now though.

>>6757690
Fug, never knew this.

>>6757697
In order of your links

Rollcage 1 - specifically the updated PC port rollcage redux http://www.codemonkey.me.uk/rollcage_redux.php
Midtown Madness 2
Re-volt https://rvgl.re-volt.io/
The Need for Speed
Vanishing point (emulate the dreamcast version, not the PS1)
Need for speed high stakes/road challenge depending on your region
Need for speed III
Rollcage stage II - specifically the updated PC port rollcage extreme http://www.codemonkey.me.uk/rollcage_extreme.php
Need for speed porsche unleashed/2000

>>6757690
To be honest the only versions of TNFS worth playing are the 3DO version for the radical X Man and the PC version (special edition) because it is the best.

>>6757870
Been playing The Need on PS1 and it's way more underwhelming than I expected. (Gameplay-wise, I like the rest of it.) II looks closer to what I had in mind. Would you say II is the best of /vr/ Need? How does it compare to III, High Stakes, and Porsche?

Need for speed III

>>6757874
That looks way better than the shit I'm dealing with. Even the gauges and HUD are different.

Also, nice choice of car.

>>6757881
High Stakes is the only retro one I like, the rest are 6th gen or recent. Surprisingly Heat is really good

>>6757881
TNFS is only worth playing really if you want 1) to experience the origins of the series or 2) actually played it back in the day and want a mostly srs bsns but not autismo racing game. It has aged the worst of all of the early titles but that is entirely down to it being on more limited hardware (strictly speaking all versions are ports of the 3DO). The best IMO of the old school games is III but most would pick high stakes/road challenge but i've got a chip on my shoulder of road challenge.

>>6757886
Its the PC version. Every version of need for speed 1 al the way to porsche has a different HUD depending on platform - typically the PS1 has the best HUD setup. This is what the PS1 version looks like after some emulation enhancements.

Better than the PS2 port. Much closer to the arcade original.

One of the smoothest racing games ever released and nobody remembers it.

Downside of dosbox that I can't see a way around - no resolution scaling. At least my screenshots are period appropriate sizes.

>>6757939
No, I know of it. I downloaded it for my PSP.

>>6757972
Huh the only other person I thought who played it was enai (dude who makes tracks for BallisticNG - a game that would be right at home here if it wasn't actually, y'know, new). Instead have a shitty webm of the game that inspired BallisticNG.

>>6757930
this so much this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Tsh3IggbI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk9eZsJFKio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jS8xKwme5E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpvK3mg8fdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqzlEWhSiDE

>>6757939
I remember it having a 60 fps mode

>>6757984
Damn, looks better than F-Zero X.

>>6758086
It will run at basically whatever on PC as DICE have always been a tech powerhouse.

>>6758095
I'll cheat and give you a webm of BallisticNG (its on steam) but the game straight up has graphical options to look exactly as if it was built on PS1 - wobbly textures and all. I prefer not to use them but its a cool feature. This is a lot harder than it looks.

>>6758108
I meant Motorhead on PS1

Midtown madness 2.

>>6750258
I just tried RR64 yesterday and man does it feel weird to control. throwing yourself into a drift felt super unnatural compared to other ridge racers I've played, and it has this strange herky-jerky veering when you finally exit the drifting animation. I wanna give it some more chances but it sure did play strange.

NFS High stakes on the dolphin cove track modded to look clos(er) to the PS1 version which has a warm sunset vibe to it.

>>6758232
Fuck me I just booted it up again to get a better picture and on a properly calibrated display it looks amazing.

>>6757573


Well, DKR is one of the most fun and challenging games of all times.

>>6757930

Maniga. But don't forget to set assistances off (except for ABS brakes).

>>6757881
high stakes PC is easily the best imo
best atmosphere/art design
best handling
best career mode (the only /vr/-approved retro one that really has a career mode really)
the damage model makes races much more challenging
oh, and the bots actually pose a threat to you later in the game; they're easy to begin with unfortunately, but in the other games it's way to easy to pit them and forget about them

I think it sucks when a game's AI isn't designed to take into account when you need to brake and just flies past you.

>>6758564
I seriously have a problem with High Stakes specially on PC. Need For Speed is about driving it like I fucking stole it. But the entire game to me is slowing down for jumps because catching air kills my chassis and suspensions. Hitting signs dings your bill. Like what the fuck is this shit am I still playing Need For speed? Makes me go back to playing NFS III which has none of this bullshit but also more exciting track designs like an underground tomb, aquariums and shit, not endlessly empty Europe hills.

>>6758901
>Need For Speed is about driving it like I fucking stole it.
is it really? i know NFS III's hot pursuit might give you that impression, but i thought the game was just about racing exotic cars
>more exciting track designs like an underground tomb, aquariums and shit, not endlessly empty Europe hills
those tracks return in high stakes; i personally prefer the newer tracks because of their more realistic design and appearance. obviously it's still not *really* realistic, but i think the colors used remind me a bit of film photography and evoke the same vibe as photos you'd see in late-90s road and tra- hey, wait a minute

>>6758357
I highly respect the lack of contact on here. Bravo.

Especially that braking line evade at the end. Well done.

>>6758901
> Need For Speed is about driving it like I fucking stole it.
No, no it is not. NFS 1 through to porsche are about driving (not racing, a subtle distinction) the bedroom poster. All those supercars you wanted in exotic locales but will never afford - that is what the games are styled after. This is why the games also offer a host of technical information and history - it is really aimed at the boy who has the poster and memorised all the specs.

The herp a derp racing set in with HP2 but at least from underground 1 they wore that intention openly.

>>6759596
Road & Track still the only based mainstream automotive magazine. Just putting it out there. Didn't really have much else to add, carry on.

>>6759656
I'm really intrigued by III and High Stakes, those are the favorites of many people I know personally. Would you say one of those are your favorite of the franchise as well? Obviously brings non-/vr/ into the discussion, but.

>>6759674
NFSIII is my favourite NFS game of all time as it nails everything from the sound, the style and the gameplay. I find high stakes regresses in some areas as it is a blatant setup for porsche (which is considerably more serious) but falls into this weird mix of too serious for its own good but still trying to be arcadey - III gets this balance spot on.

NFSIII. This might be a bit dark to see but eh.

>>6757985
The game looks much better on PS2. Thanks for proving him wrong

>>6758126
I love it. It looks a lot like Midnight Club 1.

Destruction derby 2 - a game with the creepiest main menu music ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCeNHmSD2eI

>>6759748
As it should - Angel studios went on and developed midnight club after midtown madness before they became rockstar san diego.

It’s not retro obviously, but has anyone else tried NFS heat, it’s surprisingly good

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>>6759789
I know it seems farfetched but the game has a good selection of cars, aggressive police that you can damage to take out and they can damage you, no rubber band ai, and no microtransactions, some dlc obviously but that’s it. Got a nice day and night cycle where you level up your money during the day and reputation during the night . If you’re looking for a new arcade style racer that doesn’t suck it’s worth a try

>>6759797
Nobody on /vr/ is looking for a new game to play - they are looking for old ones they haven't played yet.

>>6759810
Well figured I would at least make people aware it isn’t bad, I wanted to talk about it and obviously /v/ is too busy worrying about wojak and ecelebs to care

>>6759779
>it's from last year
You should be banned for this

>>6759837
It’s just a goddamn question jeez, no need to be a dickhead

>>6759674
Not him but if you want the best exotic NFS out of curiosity, absolutely play NFS Hot Pursuit 2 for PS2. They nail the driving and tension 10/10 and literally anything else doesn't even matter (though the rock playlist and track design are like 9/10 anyway). Every event takes like 6+ minutes minimum and you always feel like you finished by the skin of your teeth and it's the most intense and awesome feeling ever.

>>6759881
HP2 is one of the best games in general ever made, high point of the series imo

>>6759850
MOTHERFUCKER ASS FAGGOT NIGGER BITCH CUNT WHORE SHITHEAD RETARD COCKSUCKING SPIC GET OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUT

>>6759648

Taking good care of Enzo Ferrari's savage beauties.

>>6757158
I would really like to play it but I can't find a PAL rom, anybody got a link?

>>6761115
If you’re emulating couldn’t you just use an NA rom? Anyway if you really need a european one, here’s one https://cdromance.com/ps2-iso/ridge-racer-v-europe/

This thread reminds me that I have played a significant percentage of the PS1's racing game library in some form or another back in the day - the good and the shit. I got into PC gaming way, way later than the 90's but these days the magic of dgvoodoo and dosbox lets me play the old titles I missed out on.

Speaking of PS1 racing - does anyone know if Circuit Breakers ever actually got that expansion? I have scoured the internet and supposedly it exist on one of the demo discs but i've never been able to source it or find confirmation. Pic actually related - it was the previous title from the same studio super sonic racers (otherwise known as dare devil derby 3D).

>>6761124
How come the NFS games feel so empty? It's weird.

>>6761184
Well they don't - that particular track is not only the novice course of the game it is a test track and those tend to be fairly devoid of life all told. A lot of these NFS webms were recorded with low traffic/traffic off so the lap time is short enough to fit into 4chan's tiny limits.

>>6761196
This one comparatively looks a generation apart to this: >>6761124

I know it's supposed to be a high end PC game and it trounces the console versions but it usually looks like most console racers are more visually impressive.

>>6761203
>This one comparatively looks a generation apart to this
Well, one is from 1997, the other 1999. Seems like I need to make some more NFSII webms.

>>6761203
Just whipped this up for laughs - when you crank the traffic to maximum.

>>6757874
>To be honest the only versions of TNFS worth playing are the 3DO version for the radical X Man and the PC version (special edition) because it is the best.

The #DO original plays more like a race simulator than the other versions that came later. I honestly never really spent much time with the PS1 port. I would imagine that it is pretty similar to the Saturn game. The Saturn version is sped-up. It's like EA tweaked it to play more like an arcade racer. The Saturn game runs at a fairly steady 30fps. It's a good port.

>>6761385
Thing is all the other versions other than the 3DO are just the same game - the platform differences are solely down to what each platform is capable of and the PC version is flatout the best. The saturn and PS1 versions are not inherently sped up, the 3DO just runs the game at 20fps and under most of the time. The only reason to play the 3DO is to see where it all started but beyond that it is just a footnote. NFS earned its reputation primarily within the PC space for a reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjLXLhaGfFA

>>6761448
>The saturn and PS1 versions are not inherently sped up

That's not true at all. The cars in the Saturn version (and presumably PS1) all reach higher top speeds. It's not just a faster frame rate. And it does affect the way the cars handle in those versions, there's more under-steer in the Saturn/PS1 games overall. The acceleration of the vehicles in general are faster too. The breaking feels different. I honestly prefer the 3DO version because it does play more like a real driving sim in comparison to the other versions.

>>6761448
NFS always felt like a PSX series more to me but I guess it’s because PC wasn’t that popular in america besides Doom till WoW came out

>>6750397
that car unlock thing is indeed quite retarded but I don't see why that really makes the game worse in any meaningful way
it really is just an extra, i played the game on all difficulties and all the other modes until i was fed up with it, and that was enough for me to have a great time
i didn't feel the need to unlock countless reskinned cars
i do agree though, pretty stupid, but it doesn't make the rest of the game not fun

>>6761482
It is a good game, there’s no questioning that. But after the release of games like Gran Turismo and other late 90s racing games, it just feels light on actual content. Of the retro ridge racer games, I prefer 64

>>6761482
I'm willing to exclude reskins out of the argument, but if you still have to go through that shit show to unlock every unique car then that is inexcusable. If even 1/3 or 1/4 of the entire roster is behind that bullshit, that's practically content held hostage.

>>6761510
Many of them look almost the same too. In general Namco has been lazy with ridge racer
>1: lazy
>Rev: lazy
>Rage: not that lazy
>4: kinda lazy
>64: kinda lazy
>5: lazy in comparison to other games at the time
>PSP: not lazy
>6: not lazy
>PSP 2: very lazy
>7: very lazy
>unbound: not lazy but shit

>>6761520
>64: kinda lazy

It was developed by Nintendo of America's NST group. Not Namco. They just pulled the car designs from various other Ridge Racer games. Mostly RRT4 and Rage Racer?

>>6761520
>1: lazy
>Rev: lazy
>7: very lazy

I'm going to take issue with these claims specifically. RR1 was the best you were gonna get as a arcade port at the time for a 3D game. RRR is a better game on just about every front (I dislike the OST compared to the original).

RR7 is just a minor evolution of 6 sure but it is also the only RR on PS3 and has many enhancements befitting the playstation.

>>6750397
can't you just you a gameshark/action replay to unlock all the cars after winning the grand prix once? I use a code to disable all random battles and get fast speech in Xenogears and the game is soo much better for it.

>>6761532
They could’ve added an extra track for 1 or something, and Rev something besides a little more extra than 1 to justify the price. I do love 7 personally but it feels too similar to 6

>>6761520
RR1 and Revolution aren't "lazy", they basically ported the arcade game with new physics to work better with a digital pad. Early 94-96 sequels were refinement driven to iron out the fugly graphics so that's why Revolution and even Wipeout XL still uses the old school arcadey non-progression models. In 97 and after you started to see more "career" modes and started cranking out actual content. Type 4 isn't lazy per se, but nearing '00 they really went mad in padding things out to milk every hour of playtime out of you. Again with Wipeout, in Wipeout 3 your "progression" is making you finish gold on every track using every ship on every speed class. Ridge Racer V is more of a tech demo as with RR1.

>>6761529
I actually love 64 as a game and it’s my favorite but they could’ve added more than just desert tracks

>>6761539
Just because I have criticism on that front doesn't mean the issue is solved by using Gameshark or anything on the level of trainers.

>>6761532
>RR1 was the best you were gonna get as a arcade port at the time for a 3D game. RRR is a better game on just about every front (I dislike the OST compared to the original).

Ridge Racer Turbo Mode is worth checking out. It was included as a bonus disc with RRT4, and is basically Ridge Racer running at 60fps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4836lmrDfIU

>>6761547
I know and it is fucking glorious as it is much, much closer to the arcade orioginal as its not just 60fps but a graphical upgrade as well. Downside is there are only a handful of vehicles (but hey white angel is in it this time) and 2 music tracks.

>>6761552
>I know and it is fucking glorious as it is much, much closer to the arcade orioginal as its not just 60fps but a graphical upgrade as well. Downside is there are only a handful of vehicles (but hey white angel is in it this time) and 2 music tracks.

I am a bit disappointing that the bonus disc was never included with the PS1 mini. But then again, the emulation was trash in that machine. Ridge Racer Type 4 didn't even run at a proper framerate. It was awesome when publishers use to throw in free content like this.

Did anyone ever use the jogcon? I often wondered about this pad. It launched on the same day as Ridge Racer type 4.

>>6761547
Turbo is lame, it's not the full game, more like a demo, and Dualshock doesn't even work.

>>6761581
Joycon is a poor evolution of the negcon.

>>6761601
>more like a demo
You mean exactly what the accompanying information ON THE SAME FUCKNIG DISC says it is? Turbo is straight up a tech demo of RR running at 60fps that was made during the development of RR4 to see how viable it was. The decision was to go with 30fps and prettier graphics for 4 but turbo remains a cool slice of "what if".

I'm busy downloading NFS2SE and High Stakes, any patches/extras i should get to bring them up to date for Windows 10, or just make better/cooler in general?

>>6761626
For NFS2 https://verokster.blogspot.com/2019/11/need-for-speed-ii-second-edition-patch.html

For high stakes there are a couple ways to get it working so hit up the pcgamingwiki. https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Need_for_Speed:_High_Stakes Veg's (incomplete) modern patch is a good starting point.

Any good top down racing games with a story/career mode like rock n roll racing?

>>6761674
Depends on how involved the career mode needs to be but my go-to pick would be micro machines V3.

>>6761648
thanks <3

>>6761696
Side note: always have you controller plugged in BEFORE starting those old NFS games as otherwise they forget all of your bindings.

These are the NFS games I like.
HS, HP2, UG, UG2, HP2010, and Heat. Should I give 2 another try?

>>6761850
You should but the older titles are not press X to drift.

>>6761876
Yeah I know I love high stakes and HP2 so I’m no stranger to the classic era

>>6761890
As long as you listen to the orgasmic track descriptions you'll be fine. If this does not inspire you then sadly you might be broken as a person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x92qU9AmUk

>>6761543
>I actually love 64 as a game and it’s my favorite but they could’ve added more than just desert tracks

At that point in time, Nintendo was trying to get some PS1 exclusives on the N64. They also funded the port of Resident Evil 2. Ridge Racer 64 was built from scratch by Nintendo Software Technology group in Redmond, Washington (Nintendo's own headquarters), and was meant to be a compilation of everything Ridge Racer. It has the courses from RR and RRR, and NST made one new course that was set in a desert. Ridge Racer 64 also has its own collision and drift system, but you can chose the RRR or Rage Racer styled gameplaty as well. The is pretty good in the N64 game. I think the car roster came from Ridge Racer Type 4, as well as the aesthetic.

>>6761876
>Undercover
>sim
I needed a laugh.

>>6761626
>>6761648
What does SE add to II?

>>6761974
undercover is under "the odd years", not the "slightly mad studios" which is the semi-sim fan category

>>6761824
this happens to me all the time and it pisses me off; it's worse because im using a gamecube controller with a mayflash adapter, and i usually have XOutput running for other games that require xinput, but not always. i need to have the exact configuration i had last time before running or it fucks it up

>>6761995
Oh my bad, I see that now.

>>6761995
Isn’t undercover one of the worst in the whole series? It’s one of the few I haven’t touched. I also heard 2015 and Payback were horrendous which is why I was initially very apprehensive about getting Heat

>>6762091
it was okay at best i guess, but i think some versions (wii and ps2 maybe?) were especially bad and used assets from most wanted

>>6762094
>>6762091
NFS is one of the most hit or miss series when it comes to quality. You get some that are masterpieces like HS, HP2, or UG2, and then you end up with shit like MW2012, Payback, or Undercover

>>6762102
It never made sense to my why anyone calls the Criterion Most Wanted bad. Especially when compairing it to Hot Pursuit.

>>6762274
Idk, it just didn’t feel right, maybe it felt too much like paradise, while HP2010 felt like a mix of classic burnout and classic nfs

Where can I find all the classic Need for Speeds for PC prior to the PS2 era?

>>6762301
Should be available on any pirate site

Anyone who has played metropolis street racer, is chapter 14 challenge even possible?

>>6761469
>PC wasn’t that popular in america besides Doom till WoW came out
Congrats, you are officially the most retarded anon on the board. Kill yourself.

>>6762376
It really wasn’t, not compared to consoles. And definitely not like today

>>6762381
Except it was. It had hit games on it that sold enough to warrant being ported to consoles prior to Doom. Please fucking kill yourselves for posting such retarded shit.

>>6762393
Maybe in europe it was, I didn’t know anyone who played games on PC in America, everyone had PSX or N64 and a few of the poorer kids were still running super nintendo or genesis. Now fuck off underage faggot.

>>6762406
That's probably because you, your friends, and your families were all literal retards afraid to use big fancy computar machines hence why you have no memories of PC gaming. Meanwhile anyone with a remotely decent PC were playing games like Quake, Duke Nukem, Starcraft, and Half-life in droves. All games that were big enough on PC to warrant getting console ports no less. Now please get lynched zoom zoom.

>>6762419
We were playing Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, Final Fantasy 7, Crash Bandicoot. Good games, not the crap you mentioned.

>>6762371
So what does it take to run the originals on Windows 10? I almost never emulate PC.

>>6762371
I need to get back into it, I don't think I got that far.

>>6762425
>Quake, Duke Nukem, Starcraft, and Half-life
>crap
Imagine such a bitter nigger you have to rewrite history about what games were popular and on what platform. Don't worry, being 6 years old you probably didn't have the intellect to play something like Mech Warrior.

>>6762427
People say MSR is hard as fuck but it’s actually very easy to cheese, do a joker on a hot lap and set the hot lap low so you get the lap easy then just drift around the rest of the race. One of them I got 2.5k kudos

>>6762429
Quake isn’t nearly as good as doom, nor is duke nukem. Starcraft is inferior to red alert, and half life is just linear shit. So yeah get better taste and stop being LE MASTER RACE kiddo. We didn’t like PC in the 90s.

>>6762429
Also the console ports never sold overly well because we didn’t give a shit about them when we had access to better games

>>6762434
>arguing about quality when the discussion is about popularity
Learn to read, zoom zoom.
>stop being LE MASTER RACE kiddo
Stop rewriting history dumbass.
>I didn't like PC in the 90s
FTFY

>>6762440
Read>>6762438

>>6762438
The point is the games were big enough on PC that they warranted being being ported to consoles to capitalize on their success, retard.
>when we had access to better games
Yes, like the PC originals if your computer had the specs to run them.

>>6762441
Already refuted that, so calm down zoomie>>6762445

>>6762445
And we didn’t care about them judging by sales on consoles. Why? Because we had access to better games.

What the fuck does this have to do with racing games? Shut the fuck up you dumbfucks, I can tell from how both of you clowns type that you’re both young.

>>6762449
>And we didn’t care about them judging by sales on consoles. Why?
Yes, because you had purpose ready console games
>Because we had
No computers to run them.

Just because your childhood was spent playing consoles and console ready games doesn't invalidate the popularity of computers and games built for them. Please learn to read.

>>6762457
I’m saying they weren’t really that popular, they obviously had a following but not like consoles. Now obviously things are different but back then PC was still niche, no kid was asking for a PC, we wanted the new PSX or N64

>>6762456
I'm sorry the rest of the board is too stupid to point out the retardation of someone saying "PC games were unpopular until WoW except for Doom". I just wanted to make a correction, then some retard had to butt in and double down on the bullshit.

Racin Lagoon anyone? Unfortunately is text heavy and jap only but looks cool
>>6762446
>>6762449
shut the fuck up you whiny fucks, no one gives a shit

>>6762469
Yeah racing lagoon looks great, but only in japanese. Same with a racing vn called code r on saturn

>>6762461
>I’m saying they weren’t really that popular
Oh, so now you're backpedaling in that they "weren't that popular". Cute.
>they obviously had a following but not like consoles
Well no shit, but the PC had genuine million sellers. Just because it didn't have as many million sellers compared to PS1 doesn't invalidate them as being "unpopular" or not "really popular".
>but back then PC was still niche
Niche in how dedicated players were to certain games. There were still big sellers on it that were popular. And again, popular enough to get ported to consoles even if the games weren't designed for consoles.
>no kid was asking for a PC
Nigger, if you had a computer capable of running the big PC titles at the time, you wanted whatever came out on it, just like how any kid with a PS1 or N64 wanted the hot new games for those systems.

Quit thinking your childhood was universal to everyone else's.

>>6762482
**doesn't validate

>>6762482
>PS1
Yeah you’re not as old as you claim you are. Anyone from the era calls it PSX.

>>6762490
>i-i-if I argue about abbreviations I'm right!
Also, everyone has been calling it PS1 post 2000 because it's a more sensible shorthand than an abbreviation related to the system's prototype name. Do you want to argue about that next?

>>6762501
The way someone talks/types and their word choice often tells you a lot about their age. So no, I don’t believe you.

>>6762507
And people who have a point to make don't start arguing something unrelated to the discussion. So yes, I can conclude you're an even bigger retard than I thought.

>>6762517
Why should I indulge your claims and fantasies when I can tell you’re lying about other things? My guess is you’re probably 19-20 and think PC has always been at the top. It hasn’t been, I’m 36 kid so don’t try to argue with someone who lived it. Go home kid.

>>6762469
Anyone ever figure out what the cover car is?

>>6762474
Saturn had a lot of great racing games. Wangan Dead Heat. PS1 also had Naniwa Battle.

>>6762525
>Why should I indulge your claims and fantasies when I can tell you’re lying about other things?
Because you've already backpedaled about popularity to begin with.
>My guess is you’re probably 19-20
Try 30.
>and think PC has always been at the top
I never said it was at the top you literal fucktard. I said it was more popular than you think it is.
>36
I'm sure you are. If so you're a real dumbass for being 36 and thinking you're adolescence is exactly the same as everyone else's, doubly so because a quick google search could show how big PC gaming got in the mid to late 90s. Triply so because now you want to argue about shorthand names for consoles after getting btfoed because you don't to backpedal anymore. Go home gramps, it's past your bed time.

>>6762540
No 30 year old says btfo, stop fucking lying about your age asshole.

>>6759850
>>>/r/eddit

>>6763210
Reddit might actually be more hateful than 4chan

>>6762651
No 36 year old spergs about what to abbreviate the Playstation as in 2020 to deflect in an argument. Stop fucking lying about your age you zoom nigger.

>>6763262
>he’s still going on
Did I rustle your jimmies. Fucking nerd

>>6761980
Extra track and a few extra cars and while not relevant these days that is where it got glide support for the glorious TECHNOLOGY.

>>6763215
Well they're far more passive-aggressive, which is annoying as fuck because. Downvotes don't actually explain why whatever you contributed isn't appreciated. It's supposed to filter out bad posters but instead it just leaves people with a sense of "Why the fuck am I here if no one wants to hear what I have to say?"

I'm surprised the site keeps such a high membership. You'd think the lack of useful posting feedback would drive people away after awhile.

>>6763269
Why do you have to get personal? Like do you want fewer people using the site because you drove them away by being insulting and disrespectful?

Moto Racer on PC feels half-assed compared to the PS1 game.

Like why do I need to swap between which tracks I have available to play?

>>6761876
late 90s era was cool

Is this game really total shit or am I just garbage? The controls are so fucking slippery that I can barely do anything without slamming into a wall.

>>6757540
Awesome game. Honored that it came out the same day I was born.

Not going to lie friends, I may need some help.

I got The Need for Speed working on PC through DOSbox, but now that I'm trying to get NFS II: SE to work, I'm having a lot more difficulties it seems. Sometimes it'll get to the menus, sometimes it won't. Oftentimes it'll show the 3DFX logo, then go to black and stay that way. Regardless, there's no way for me to exit the application, I have to manually sign out using ctrl+alt+delete as it won't close no matter what I do.

I've tried everything I could think of, tried a lot of different ROMs and ISOs and configurations and patches.

>>6764952
You'll probably have better luck using PCem, buddy. PCgamingwiki might help out if you still wanna try it natively, but I can't comment on how well it'll work, never tried these suggestions myself: https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Need_for_Speed_II

>>6750242
>>6755437
S O U L

Does anyone have any tips for beating the final 2 extra courses in the original Ridge Racer? I've played through nearly every game in the series except for this and 1 other non retro entry.

This one's pretty good if only for the style.
Delivering potatoes while listening to enka and dissing other drivers is where the manly dream is at.

>>6764952
>>6764968

Fuick pcmem and fuck the dos version. Use the windows version (might need fan patch to get it installed). Then go download dgvoodoo2 and set that up - the game literally Just Werks™ that way.

If in doubt try this rom as its what I got to work.

https://we.. tl/t-c8etyJhBQb

>>6764992
>>6764996
Fatal racing is /o/ approved but i've never played it.

>>6765005
Is POD gold worth it on gog?

>>6765009
Use the standard balanced car and just don't fuck up - if you race without mistakes the devil car won't catch you on the last lap. There are no secrets, just the requirement to get good.

>>6765016
L-R, top to bottom to the best of my knowledge

>Screamer rally
>Fatal racing/whiplash
>Re-Volt
Pass on the two rally games as they don't look like richard burns or colin mcrae
>The need for speed
>Need for speed III
>rollcage
>ignition

>>6765025
I was using the 2nd car with the better handling but I'll relearn with the standard car. I'm having a lot more trouble than I did with Rage Racer or R4. I also realized I've never played Revolution so I'm gonna get to that after.

>>6765041
Well any car can do it but the standard cars (i.e not the ones you get from winning galaxia) are generally better than the bonus ones but speed is fairly crucial over handling for the later races are you are expected to race nearly flawlessly. Revolution is the harder game imo due to the expert track being insanely technical.

>>6765029
Holy fucking shit.

Who are you, mystical racing anon? Are you me from the future?

>>6765107
I think they came from /o/ and aren't an autist, which is a miracle within itself.

>>6765125
I came from /o/ as well. Wonder who it is.

If they came from /ovg/, that's understandable because zero discussion of games takes place over there.

>>6765025
HOLY BASED. It actually does just fucking werk. Thank you, a thousand times.

Where did you find that ROM? It's the only thing that's worked. I can't imagine going through the whole process again when I want to try out III and High Stakes.

>>6765050
Holy shit I did it in just a few tries. However I still need to beat the previous race. The track really isn't too difficult but I bump into the ai racers too much.

>>6765157
>Where did you find that ROM?
Fuck knows as I went through a lot of internet trawling to get the game working. I even named the file "keep as it fucking works".

III and high stakes are much, much easier to get running. II falls into that weird void of very early Direct3D that just do not function anymore due to things 16bit reliance or general doing funky things modern windows does not handle. I think RG mechanics has a torrent of all the early NFS games floating about as well.

>>6765181
In theory the a.i racers are never problem as outside of the chicane bit on the TT track they never follow the racing line so you nearly always have room to pass.

>>6765185
Well I got it immediately using the black car, even though its definitely more difficult to handle. I think I'm just bad because bumping into the ai racers was probably the biggest issue I had the entire game.

>>6765035
Two rally games look like Network Q RAC Rally Championship and International Rally Championship

Any F1 games that are kinda arcadey?

>>6765291
Bizarre Creations ones are great. Studio 33 ones too.

>>6765310
I’ll give em a look

>>6765112
thanks for these webms pal

can someone explain to me how the drift mechanic works in this game? Like I quickly hit brake, then gas and do a sharp turn and try to counter steer but the car almost always ends up moving from side to side and I go into a wall

>>6757428
Too bad 6th gen nonce. I guess you'll have to cry more and post some Megaman loli or GBA threads.What's the matter, you gave up on spamming after getting humiliated?

>>6766778
i'm no expert but let go of gas and then press gas or brake to initiate drift. in drift state, i think you need to turn a bit in any side (it doesn't matter) so then when you want to end the drift you need to straighten up again. pressing gas if it wasn't pressed might end the drift too i think. in drift state your rotation doesn't effect the position of the car, which gravitate to the center of the track pretty quickly, but i think it might affect speed loss, more angle - more loss. so the only reason to do any significant angle is to show off.

>>6766778
>>6767009
Let go of power, turn, hit power again. The real trick of RR's drifting is you aren't going to be applying countersteer during the drift. Once you start the drift the car will turn as if it is on rails at that angle so counter steer is only applied at the end to end up going straight again.

Pay close attention to this webm - you can see the slight drop in revs as the drift is initiated and it is full throttle all the time otherwise.

Why does everyone forget about NASCAR Rumble?

>>6767192
It is not turn left 2003.

>>6750249
>gushing over worst one
RR1 = RRR > Rage Racer > R4

>>6767176

OK thanks, I was able to get it working, my problem now though is straightening out. I can't get the car to go straight again, it goes way to the left or way to the right and when I regain control and accelerate, its pointing straight at the wall. Any tips? No matter what I do I can't seem to straighten it out correctly

>>6767208
just point the car to the direction the road goes while drifing i guess

>>6767208
Its all about using only a few inputs. A tap or two to initiate the drift and you only need about that to straighten out. Where I think you are going wrong is the car is gripping when the viewpoint is still at an angle so you are applying either too much counter steer to straighten up or not enough. You might want to counter steer to straighten a little sooner than you currently are. Again there is no secret just practice. I suggest sticking with the F/A racing car as it really is the most balanced.

RR's drifting is very binary - the car is either sticking to the track like glue or is drifting, there is no inbetween state like you see in basically every other (non arcade) game. Burnout for example is the polar opposite - a drift can be manipulated easily and you can gradually change from drift to grip but as said ridge racer doesn't work like that.

>>6767230

I see, maybe I'm inputting too much, I'll try that out thanks anon

Not racing exactly, but Out Run is my favorite retro driving game.

>>6767287
if it isn't a racing game why is it game over if you fall behind the fastest possible pace a bit?

>>6767298
It is a girlfriend simulator by modern standards.

>>6767308
now it makes sense
they doubled down on that in turbo outrun

>>6767336
In 2006 if you fail (typically by running out of time) she pummels the driver for his failure.

>>6767197
But that's because its actually just a rad arcade racer. Is this a hidden gem because nerds are allergic to redneck subcultures?

>>6750397

Holy shit. I remember unlocking the Pac-Man car back in the day with a JogCon. Good times, I love Namco designed cars

>>6767551
Monster Truck Madness?

>>6753617

For once anon isn't bullshitting.

>According to a magazine article for Incite Video Gaming Magazine about Ridge Racer 64 for the Nintendo 64 from February 2000[2], a Japanese male developer couldn't find a woman's face for Reiko so he had a quick shave, conducted a spot of eyebrow plucking and scanned his own head in as Reiko is "part man".

https://ridgeracer.fandom.com/wiki/Reiko_Nagase

>>6767551
Nobody but burgers plays nascar games and within that crowd most only care about turn left 2003 so nascar rumble gets forgotten by the world at large.

>>6765150
Believe it or not, I came from /v/, got tired of /v/‘s stupid eceleb and political drama. And they don’t care about racing games either

>>6767551
Is it good? I’m actually a lib and fucking love cabela’s dangerous hunts, redneck games can be fun

Congratulations, you've finally made a racing game thread with staying power.

>>6767736
There is still 200 pots left for it to be fucked up.

>>6767585
Heck. Have you played every racing game ever?

>>6767756
No but i've probably played a good 50-60% of all 3d racing games ever made.

>>6750242
>tfw too busy playing dumb games and wasting hours napping to finish my racing game only minute-review site web 1.0 site

>>6767736
>>6767746
decent thread, have a pseudo driving webm

>>6767764
What's your list of top 10-20 or so favorite racers?

>>6767764
so which of these hidden fossils are gems?

>>6767815
All the PGR games and MSR, Burnout 2, 3 and Revenge, NFS HS, HP2, and UG2, all 3 sega rally games, dirt 3, daytona, gt 1, 2 and 4, rush 2 and 2049, rock n roll racing, and top gear overdrive

>>6767815
Of all time?

Midnight club II
NFSIII
Burnout paradise
Smuggler's run 2
Toca touring cars
Supersonic racers
Re-volt
Ridge racer
BallisticNG
Destruction derby 2
Gran turismo 2
Lotus turbo challenge
Porsche challenge
Vanishing point


Those are just some of my favs that come to mind - i'd have to ruminate on it longer for give a more comprehensive list.

>>6767828
Throw in mario kart 64 and 8 in there two but kart racers feel different to me

>>6767839
Forgot ridge racer on my list, i’d go with 64, 2 psp and 7

>>6767828
Your list was pretty based until a few items.

>Dirt 3, Rush 2, Top Gear Overdrive
You're going to have to explain those ones to me.

Dirt felt like it continued to get more gimmicky and casual over time until their return to form with Dirt Rally, though I admittedly didn't play much of the series.

I've been playing Rush 2 and Top Gear Overdrive on N64. Neither feel fun to play longer than a few minutes, as much as I wanted them to be, I'm not sure how anyone can play them for long, unless I'm really missing something, which I could be.

How do you feel about Sega GT and Sega GT 2002?

Never even heard of Rock n Roll Racing. I've only played tiny bits of PGR, but if they're that high up I may need to buy an Xbox hueg. Also, based MSR placement.

>>6767839
> Lotus Turbo Challenge
> Porsche Challenge
What about Lamborghini Challenge or 355 Challenge?

>>6767828
wow, all pretty popular stuff, aside from supersonic racers
vanishing point is gorgeous technically on ps1 but aren't tracks too generic and boring?
>>6767857
don't forget need for speed: road challenge!

>>6767852
Dirt 3 is the only one of the dirt games I’ve played and if you set the options to be more arcade like, it feels like a spiritual successor to sega rally, i put on damage though to make it a bit more fun. I hear dirt rally is very very sim like

Rush 2 is just a good solid arcade style racer that fixes most of the issues from 1. Top gear overdrive has a nice career style mode and almost felt like N64’s answer to ridge racer until 64 came out

I haven’t played much sega gt but i’m guessing they’re like forza or gt, which I should add forza 1 is great and I liked forza horizon 4

Rock and roll racing is top down and has a metal ost, it’s a ton of fun. PGR is my favorite racing series ever because it’s like ridge racer except it has real cars and the drifting and style driving actually matter, especially in the first game. MSR is actually PGR 0. If you like MSR, they’re essentially the same

>>6767869
wrong post, kek

>>6767869
meant to reply there >>6767839

>>6767857
Never played lamborghini american challenge and only briefly played F35 challenge.

>>6767869
Road challenge is a much cooler name than high stakes. Vanishing point is meh on the PS1 but much better on dreamcast (which is the best version). A lot of good games are popular so it is no surprise the list will be like that.

>>6767881
Road challenge strikes me as too generic, I prefer high stakes but that’s just me. I hope NFS is returning to form, Heat was pretty decent

>>6767874
Yeah, I know about Bizarre Creations' ill fate.

Rest in God damn pieces, Blur.

>>6767886
Blur was killed by red dead redemption.

>>6767881
i did complete the dreamcast version too and only tested the ps1 verison
for the next gen platform it's even more underwhelming since it is basically the same
>>6767886
amen

>>6767886
Blur was fun, shame it sold like ass. Also pgr 1 and 2 are 360 compatible and 3 and 4 are still 360 exclusive. So grab a cheap 360 if you’re interested in the series

>>6767839
Smuggler's Run, TOCA, Lotus Turbo Challenge, and Vanishing Point I've heard of but never played before. Recommended versions, if any?

Haven't heard of Supersonic, Destruction Derby 2, or Porsche Challenge.

Re-Volt often gets recommended and I remember hearing about it off and on back in the day. I guess it's worth playing if it's on your list. Only heard of the 64 version. Is BallisticNG a derivative of BeamNG?

>>6767901
Smuggler's run 2 is best on gamecube. TOCA is the origin of the Grid series from codemasters and started on PS1. Vanishing point is best on dreamcast.

>>6767901
Porsche challenge is porsche unleashed in the US that was what I assumed Porsche challenge was. I’m personally not a big fan, unless you love porsche it’s not a big deal

>>6767901
https://store.steampowered.com/app/473770/BallisticNG/

>>6767920
Nope - you've got that wrong. Porsche challenge is an early PS1 game that is basically sony making a game out of a tech demo. Porsche unleashed (the NFS game) was known as porsche 2000 in europe.

>>6767925
I didn’t know that, guess I should’ve looked it up. Does porsche challenge have some good content?

>>6767929
Eh it is fairly barebones in of itself. I have a soft spot for it given it was a technical masterpiece at the time but if I look at it objectively today it isn't special. I like it in the same way I like the old NFS games - it is about the technical stats and driving (in this case the porsche boxster) around nice locales.

>>6767839
Nice! Which Dreamcast game is this?

>>6768026
Probably vanishing point

>>6768073
Vanishing Point has a Diablo? Looks NFS III.

>>6768081
Just a guess since he said DC, could be PC NFS3

Is Porsche Unleashed really only worth playing on PC or is the PS1 version worth something too?

What are some futuristic racers that feature wheeled vehicles?
There's POD, Dethkarz, Motorhead, Rollcage, Extreme-G, what else?

>>6768480

Carmageddon, kind of

For me, it's this hidden gem

>>6768638
Amazing hidden obscure gem that people NEVER talk about. Hopefully Metal Jesus covers it so it can become more popular and get a sequel or remake

>>6768457
I have this same question regarding II, III, and High Stakes.

>>6768638
>>6768650
Damn, what is this game called.

>>6768457
>>6768690
I would recommend PC for II, III, and especially HS, because HS on PSX only has the pink slips through memory card battles which obviously isn’t going to happen anymore. PU I actually prefer the PSX version, it feels more historical

>>6768697

Not sure, but I need to find out ASAP!!

Fantastic thread anons. Love the Webms.

>>6768480
POD II (or Speedzone) for Dreamcast. I didn't even knew it had a sequel until i started digging DC racers to emulate.
Let's see, Killer Loop doesn't have wheeled vehicles, Deathtrack Resurrection is not retro, Scorcher? Cool game, even unique. Xcessive Speed? Not that futuristic, as ATR: All Terrain Racing which influenced it a lot. Megarace series, Mad Trax. That's all i know.

>>6768735
Racing vidya fans are among the best in vidya because they generally don’t give a shit about politics or drama

I WANNA FRYYYYY SKY HIGHHHH LETS GOOOO TOGETHAAAAAAA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkkMCyeN2ug

>>6768776
As long as you like going fast, that's all that matters to me.

>>6768910
I certainly do

I wish this could become a pseudo general, there’s nowhere else to talk about racing vidya

>>6768776
>>6768910

I always wondered why that is, I suppose being a genre centered around machines without story/character development (generally speaking) naturally attracts more technically-minded people that are more private/apolitical/drama-free than most. Dunno, but racing game players are consistently the most chill.

>>6768946
They’re definitely among the friendliest genre fans I’ve talked to on 4chan and focus heavily on gameplay since that’s all there is.

>>6767574
That's kind of hot.

As a kid I basically just messed around whenever I played and could never figure out what the 'best line' option in NFS3 did. Noticed the other day while emulating for a lark that it adds a set of tire tracks throughout the course, almost unnoticeable in parts, which is actually a pretty inventive way to show the racing line compared to the green arrows so many later racing games use.

>>6769105
That's crazy. Don't know of any other game that does that. Probably the only one. Definitely got to play it now.

>>6769201
Why the sarcasm?

>>6769105
Damn, the Saturn looked like THAT?

>>6768026
>>6768073
>>6768081
It is NFSIII.

>>6769105
Using tire tracks to show best line turned up in a few games of that area rather than the bright glowing neon we have today.

>>6769310
It's not sarcasm, but I guess I can see how it could come off that way. I was being serious, it's a nice detail.

>>6769660
PS1.

>>6769841
It looks too pixellated to be a PS1 game

>>6769675
What are some of the other games that did it? It's actually pretty brilliant and I never heard of or saw that way of presenting it until now.

>>6769201>>6770135
most if not all of the games referred in this >>6765310 post have the same option too.
>>6769918
this is because unevenly resized pixels on the screenshot. if you want sharp pixels when emulating use something like sharp bilinear.

>>6767230

holy shit anon, THANK YOU!! I followed your instructions this morning and I was able to master it. It's the same anon from before

>>6768638
it depends which version.

OKAY NOW IT'S ON.

>>6771084
Okay, someone delete my post then since "we weren't ready" is apparently in effect.

>>6771084
How can one series have universally perfect games like this? There is not a single Burnout game that is anything less than perfect, even the PSP spinoffs and puzzle games are perfect. It seems impossible that a series this god-tier can even exist.

>>6771412
I actually think Burnout 3 isn't as flawless as people claim.

It's very, VERY fun but there are things about it that I can't shake and diminishes it in the long run for me.

The biggest one being the AI doesn't ACTUALLY race you (like rubber-banding AI at least is actually driving against you, even if they're getting boosted or slowed depending on your performance; Burnout 3's opponents basically have fixed spots they will always appear at).

>>6771450
Burnout 3 is overrated I agree. Personally I think it is a game designed to appeal to ADHD people compared to the more restrained burnout 2 and the more focused burnout revenge.

>>6767551
There's a PS2 version with the redneck license removed, but that's not the scope of this board.

>>6767585
>what is turnleft thunder 2004

Underrated gem coming through

>>6758284
A very strong example of art design over graphics. Even on the PS1 it looks great.

>>6773387
Exactly which is why I feel it was a great loss when the racing genre basically died out except for autism simulators or hyper arcade imitations. I just want nice, stylised environments to drive cool cars (real or fictional) around.

Well now we can discuss 6th gen in the thread without feeling bad. Next thread theme will be project gotham racing

>>6774069
Not until next gen drops, until then ding dong bannu.

>>6774102
Did you not see today’s sticky? They’re allowing 6th gen threads in general now

>>6750242
"Who are you?"
"I'm you, but stronger."

>>6774326
Unironically the best racing game ever made

Bump, now we can talk about 6th gen shit if we want

>>6776121
I guess we can, I guess we can.

FLATOUT 2 IS SHIT.

There, discussion commenced.

>>6776204
I've recently started to hear this. Haven't really gotten to play 1 outside if the demo on pc. How come you say 2 is shit?

>>6776204
It feels like burnout’s redneck cousin. Is destruction derby any good?

>>6776286
I don't like FlatOut in general. The boost system is based around plowing into things along the side of the road (which only count if they haven't been hit yet, meaning cars in front get fresher boosting opportunities) and battling rival cars, which is very odd, and the controls for the game are so loose and difficult to rein in that it runs counter to the boosting system (you either trip over debris or can barely hold onto your car when you go up against the other cars and it all descends into frustrating, nonsensical chaos).

>>6776387
Those are fair complaints. It's been a hot few years since I've sat down and played 2 in a while, and even when I did I only ever played the minigames and destruction derby so I never really noticed it as a young dude. I've slowly been going back through my favorite ps2 games so I'll get to that eventually and I'll keep those points in mind

So what all good games besides PGR and HP2 can be added to good racing discussion now?

>>6776671

>>6776781
Good point, also Forza 1 has held up well

>>6776671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASe5qP2_Ets

>>6776286
because gameplay-wise it's such a downgrade compared to the original game
first, there's no close racing, especially against real people - you ram your opponents, they fly off the road, you speed away
second, every rwd car either grips or spins, you can't really slide
>>6776373
it's rather playable, you should try it since there aren't that many games to choose from anyway

pic: best banger racing game

goddamnit how did I miss this thread

>>6765214
yep, you're spot on with those two

magnetic fields were a fucking legendary developer

>>6777084
>>6777101
heh, that was conveniently timed

agree with what you say about flatout 2 though - while I did enjoy it, a lot of content was removed that pissed me off
the snow tracks and time trial allowing you to explore the entire map was great

>>6766791
haha loser

>>6776671
richard burns rally

OP here, hopefully these types of threads will last despite all the spam currently going on and all the newfags entering. I want to put PGR as the next thread pic as celebration we can discuss more racing vidya now, but I’m not sure if I should in case it attacks trolls. What do you all think?