/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6757040
Be the change you want to see in this world.

Pony up the money and hire a translator

Unfortunately PS1 games are a headache to translate. It's easy with NES, Gameboy, or SNES games where the graphics are literally stored like text characters but PS1 text is actually flatted polys so it's an absolute PITA to try and modify.

If I wanted to play an untranslated game but it was an entirely menu-driven strategy game rather than anything with a narrative, would I probably be fine with something like Google Translate using my phone's camera?

>>6757219
retroarch has a feature which is functionally similar to that but a bit more elegant in implementation

>>6757231
Does it still require a cloud account?

>>6757040
Pong. Zoomies be so retard they can't play the jap version without a translation and a guide.

>>6757040
You probably aren't going to like hearing this but consider learning Japanese. It's better to do that then wait 5-10 years for games like these to get patches

>>6757040
Learn Japanese lesson!

>>6757564
>>6757831
Nah japanese is hard n sheit

>>6757040

>>6757040
Saint Sei- wrong serie.

Psycho Solider!

>>6757040
Putting this to trigger ThorHighHeels

>>6757040

Pic related is the only entry in this extremely long-running series to be translated. I like this game, but it's extremely simple and it's based on the first game, which had already gotten at least one sequel by the time this came to the states. Just in /vr/ territory there were like twenty Winning Post releases, but interest outside of Japan is so low that even this official release has hardly any information written about it. Even on YouTube there are maybe four videos about it.

>>6758160
>ThorHighHeels
The point that annoys me the most about him and this sort of youtubers is that they absolutely can't be bothered to learn something that is deeply connected both with their hobbies and the kind of content they make. Like, it kinda reminds me of pc-98 threads where people appear to accept the fact they will never be able to understand plot in some games and opt to merely contemplating the art and music from them. Only in case of Thor there is a whole youtube channel dedicated to this, and I don't even know how I should describe it - almost like he settles for the cover of the book rather than actually reading said book, or this is the feeling I get anyway.

>>6757040
98% of the PC-98 library

>>6758160
I love that weirdo and his videos.
So glad I found out about him through a /v/ recommendation thread years ago.

>>6758229
You think it'll be distracting when he finally bites the bullet and starts taking HRT?

>>6757190
t. never translated a game with special autistic dialogue/text compression

>>6758220
Eh, great music. Story though pic.

>>6757190
Sounds like Saturn RPGs would be much easier as it has an actual 2D mode instead of using polys to fudge 2D.

I can speak some Japanese but not enough to play this. It’s a visual novel racing game

Did any of the Power Dolls games get translated?

>>6758538
Cade R?

>>6759240
Code R

Never.

>>6759254
Oh

>>6759279
>pic
1000 Aaaa!! Atatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatatataatatatatatatatatatat!!!!!!! Hah!

>>6757040

Never say never anon...

>>6758538

>What a hell are you gonna mak ?

What did they mean by this

>>6757141
Or do it yourself. Me and my friend translated an entire game ourselves recently. Took about 10 months.

>>6759585
Did your imaginary friend also larp about it?

>>6757219
For a typical Trpg, you can manage to do a lot with trial and error. Or learn kana to read menus, it's actually fun.

>>6757190
>actually flatted polys
As in 3d models flattened out?

>>6760659
Polygons are already flat, Anon.

>>6760790
2D are still flat.

>>6760659
Really. The PS1 and N64 don't have an actual 2D graphics mode, only the Saturn does. They have to just use flattened polys to fake 2D.

https://www.copetti.org/projects/consoles/playstation/

>>6757040
that game is just galerians

>>6761192
With Parasite Eve

>>6757190
OP's game uses the font in the PSX BIOS. No polygons involved, just a 15x15 bitmap for each character

>>6757040
Boku no Natsuyasumi. Not because it's hard or anything, but the skills required to translate that makes it impossible. Most dialogues uses the vertical way of writing in japanese.

>>6761637
Yeah that seems pretty tough. The Japanese in that game is very simple from what I've played.

>>6761328
name?

>>6761727
Brightis

>>6761328
Nice.

>>6758192
There's millions of horse derby games in japan that span all consoles. Crazy how popular there, it's like fucking football in murica

>>6761616
So what does one do to manipulate that?

Obligatory Samurai Shodown RPG

>>6762521
It really shouldn’t be that hard if it’s in spanish, there’s quite a few spanish english native bilinguals, and spanish isn’t that far from english anyway

>>6762539
Wait, is it in Spanish?! It can be easily translated with the correct tools

>>6762454
You can't change that font, it's in the PSX ROM. But my point is that if you wanted to add a different font to the game, you would just use the same kind of monochrome bitmap format, and the text rendering code wouldn't have to change much. It's not fundamentally different from what you would do for a typical SNES translation.

>>6762539
Interesting translation.

>>6761328
>>6762139
I remember this being brought up a while back, was fun the little I played despite my limited understanding.

>>6757040
Anybody have experience with translating? Would be down to start a fundraiser or so to get this translated!

>>6758298
I've been curious on his/their deal. Know. Nothing about them outside of the vids but even then they don't mention much of it

How many groups have attempted to translate this now? We're on the fourth or fifth at this point, right?

>>6762656
Well what I mean is like hex editing wouldn't be that difficult from that point as apposed to a game that would be using it's own custom font

>>6764484
Thor High Heels feels pretty straight to me, he said that he's ".mostly straight" in his Ask.fm and nothing else, what, he wants to transition?

>>6764506
Is there something about it that makes it difficult to translate or do people just lose interest?

Never ever

>>6766093

>>6757141
>pay some 600 pound autist to run the dialogue through google translate

No.

OH MY FUCKING GOD PLEASE SOMMEBODY TRANSLATE RACING LAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON

>>6766412
Has anyone here tried messing around with Racing Lagoon, actually? I opened it up a few weeks ago and I couldn't even find text outside of some ASCII in the saveram and on the load screen.

>>6766093
By infamous hack himself, Koijma.

>>6757190
Could you stop talking about things you have no idea about?

>>6761131
>polys to fake 2D
There is no faking 2D you idiot at least read what you link to the psx doesn't have 2d mode because a 2d mode uses planes which can be replaced by layered textured stamped quad strips which works perfectly in games like castlevania sotn and produces superior results to what saturn can do.

>>6766093
why did this never translate when so many of the DS ones did? seems weird

>>6757190
More like headache to machine translate, but what you're saying isn't even correct. EOP's, when will they learn?

>>6761131
it's doesn't really matter, even on the psx, polygons that are normal to the screen ("flat") don't even have affine mapping artifacts ("warping"), nor is there an issue with the lack of floating point causing vertex jitter, since that again only shows up when dealing with vertices that land in between screen pixels, so doesn't affect regular 2D

tl;dr, the psx can do 2D just fine with it's janky polygons

fucking this, apparently

>>6757304
NEVER ANSWERED! THANK YOU!

>>6757040
ME WATCH CHINKY MAN PLAY GAME. NAO I NEED PLAY GAME DURRRRRRRRRR

I love EOP threads because they make me feel good about my own intelligence and trilingualism. Thanks for being around, stupid people.

>>6758217
I get what you mean, I hate Japanese PC threads because faggots always shit them up with translation begging, spamming screenshots of games they never played or posting YouTube music clips and never discussing a game.

Never ever >>6767173

>>6769424
Do they make you feel good about your schizophrenia?

>>6769432
Yep, you nailed it, but I would like to believe there is also an anon who is getting motivated every time such a thread is coming up. Yet again, it's always a shame that there COULD have been a discussion around the game, but what we get instead is
>translation begging, spamming screenshots of games they never played or posting YouTube music clips and never discussing a game
Damn, we could even simultaneously discuss both the language in untranslated games and the games themselves, only if people were actually willing to play it and get over lingual hurdles instead of making such depressing threads.

I came to this thread to specifically lol at EOPs. Yes, I fully agree with >>6769424

>>6770004
Dial 8.

>>6770582
Eop here. I actually learnt to read kana just for japanese pc gaming. I'm currently playing Slayers without understanding the plot because I don't want to wait another years for my language skills to improve, and just enjoy the fucking thing. I will provably replay it in a few months or years, when I've drilled enough vocabulary and kanji to understand what the fuck is going on there. But in the meantime, I can at least make my way through menus and haven't been roadblocked so far (and anyway, there are some walkthroughs on the internet for that).
I did the same for the Lakers series and made my way through the 3 games. Some kind anon even gave me a chart for managing the vn stuff in the third game.
Point is, you can genuinly enjoy some games with minimal japanese knowledge and a bit of effort. Sure, you miss a lot of stuff, but it's better than just drool at some screenshots while feeling frustrated.

>>6771470
>Point is, you can genuinly enjoy some games with minimal japanese knowledge and a bit of effort. Sure, you miss a lot of stuff, but it's better than just drool at some screenshots while feeling frustrated
Spot on! I guess some anons just don't believe they can learn while playing or reading whatever they want. Maybe it has something to do with a preconception that tedious routine and boredom await which might come to mind the instant you think about learning something as complex as a language. Thing is, learning is fun when you actually get to it, even more so when we're talking about learning with games.

>>6771470
>>6771594
yes you can enjoy games without understanding them very well but that seems like a waste of time that would better be spent learning the language to later enjoy them more.

>>6769121
Well..

>>6765845
I think it's just the people who try to translate it don't have experience doing text-heavy games and greatly underestimate what they're trying to undertake, so they get overwhelmed eventually and quit.

>>6757040
doesn't it have a spanish one?

>>6757564
>lol just learn Japanese
Japanese is in the top 5 of hardest languages to learn if you're a native speaker of an Indo-European language (which most people on here are). It's just not worth the trouble of studying and studying for years, day in and day out, only to barely be able to read simple newspaper articles.

I want Gokinjo Boukentai, looks so cute and got so close to being translated too, the people doing it just got stuck somewhere and disappeared since last year

>>6775014
Any other top four hardest languages? My lesson on Hungarian word.

>>6774828
>>6774835
>>6774841
The super famicom games have better aesthetics and music and are very much translated.

>>6757040
This is the kind of game that someone that knows Jap pretends is a 10/10 to taunt EOPs, making them wait decades for it to get translated only to find out it's just a decent game. The OST is the only real notable thing about it, that and the first disk being like 10 minutes of gameplay before it asks for disk 2 which is pretty funny.

>>6757040
>see cool looking anime-style box art
>"neat, I found a hidden g-"
>look at gameplay
>it's a glorified visual novel yet again, who would've thought

>>6774986
That's Mizzurna Falls.

>>6775014
>wah wah it's hard
tons of people on this board managed, you're just admitting you're small-brained. yes it's harder than learning french, no it's not an excuse to give up before starting.

>>6775235
It's an adventure game, moron.

I guess non Japanese speakers view text heavy Japanese games in a bad light because they can only play them through translations/localization, and of course game translators can't translate good writing worth a damn, so the prose always turns into stilted shit or a dry mess, mistranslations are common and the script quality goes from great to mediocre real fast.

It's your loss though.

>>6775235
>hidden
It was mainstream enough to have a live action television series tie-in.

>>6775235
Awesome game! Modern gaming just lame.

>>6766093
Which girl's name is Konami?

>>6766412
yeah i'd love to play this already. the music is so snazzy.

now when 6th gen allowed I can post my cool games
Pachipara 13 is a pachinko sumulator but with story mode and open world

bump

I really want to play this. In Japan it's a highly regarded cult classic VN, and I really enjoyed its successor, 428, but since it's a VN it will never get translated.

>>6775548
Hm, Lady Konami from 8 bit crossover.

This and its PS1/Dreamcast prequel.
At least they're partially playable with retroarch machine translation.

too obscure and too mediocre

>>6777525
thanks man never heard of sequel

>>6777525
>>6777557
>>6777361
>>6776445

Nice cool cover

>>6757040

Psycho Solider (TG-16 & Famicom port)

>>6777969
trolling

>>6767051
Girl's Side was one of the few mainstream otome game series in the market for a long time, unlike mainline Tokimemo which got kinda lost in a sea of other competing dating sims and romance VNs after a while. It's not hard to see why one got more attention than the other.

>>6778259
Whole what, dude?

>>6777526
Sorekara specifically or Memories Off as a whole?

>>6777756
Name's in the file, smartass.

>>6759279
I can't even find a rom of this game, let alone an actual physical copy. I'd really love to get an actual disk for it.