/vr/ - Retro Games

Please, we don't need more shitposting. This board is dead enough already

>>6755796
>N64 HATE THREAD
it was one of the best consoles though

>>6755810
>>6755820
nincel cope

>>6755796
>ohaiguise just back from my gba ban so decided to shitpost this
zoom zoom

It isnt hard to hold

>>6755842

>>6755796
Hate the fags going all like "oh best console ever, best games ever made" when it's just a tiny library of games that are all crapware

>>6755796
I POSTED IT AGAIN GUISE!!!!!11!!1one!!!1!!!

>>6755842
>spawn of cthulhu spotted

>another one of "these" threads
Just enjoy retro games anon. There are lots of great games for the Saturn, the PSX, and the N64 :)

>>6755851
>>6756187
This is zoomer cope.

>>6756225
how else do you hold it, boomer.

>>6756197
No, there's like 5 games tops.

>>6756243
5th gen has exactly 7 good games.
3 on Saturn, 3 on N64, 1 on PS1.

>>6756243
N64 games I enjoy:
>Super Mario 64
>Mario Kart
>Ocarina of Time
>Majoras Mask
>Paper Mario
>Mario Tennis
>007 Goldeneye
>Space Station Silicon valley
>Mischief Makers
>Chameleon Twist 1&2
>Banjo Kazooie & Tooie
>Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
>Conkers Bad Fur Day
>Winback
>Pokemon Puzzle League
>Pokemon Snap
>Blast Corps
>Bomberman 64
And there are loads of others that people like but aren't to my taste

are sony fags really still seething? give it up

>>6756298
He's probably a nincel who false flags as a PS1 fan to spam the board and make people hate us.

>>6755796
You don't need three hands to use an N64 controller.

>>6756225
>This is zoomer cope.
It is. But at least you admit it.

>>6756275
>Mario 64
overrated, looks like shit, Spyro is better
>Mariokart
Awful slippery controls, looks like shit, CTR better
>OoT
>MM
Most overrated games of all time, look like actual dogshit, Vagrant Story better
>Paper Mario
Kiddie shit, bland art direction, literally any PS1 rpg better
>Mario Tennis
Cash grab, looks like shit, any PS1 sports game better
>Goldeneye
aged like milk, resembles vomit, Quake 2 on PS1 better
>SSSV
Buggy glitchy unplayable mess, play Klonoa
>Mischief Makers
Trashure shit, awful spritework, play Brave Fencer Musashi
>Chameleon twist 1 & 2
Boring generic collectathon, play Crash 3
>Banjo Kazooie & Tooie
" "
>Goemon
no redeeming qualities, it sucks
>CBFD
edgy generic collectathon with muddy shit smear graphics
>winback
horridly aged TPS, play Syphon Filter
>Pokemon puzzle league
puzzle game yawn
>pokemon snap
you're scraping the bottom of the barrel
>blast corps
you've gone through the bottom of the barrel
>bomberman 64
you're scraping the floor now by picking the worst bomberman game

congrats, you only proved just how awful of a system the Nshittywhore is and how PS1 lives rent free in N64 kiddies heads.

>>6756298

>>6756387
>this seethe
Woah

>Mario 64
overrated, looks like shit, Spyro is better

>>6756387
It looks like you're seething, anon. This isn't a contest. I also enjoy some of the PSX games you mention, because I can enjoy good games whatever console they are on. It's a real shame you can't enjoy something because it's on the n64.

>PlayStation Fanboys: N64 kiddy shit.. Spyro and Croc are the bestest ever!!!

Do you realise how fucking stupid you all sound?

>>6756441
Croc is based

Congrats this board is now worse than v

>>6756486
Yeah, there's definitely an influx of /v/ users finding /vr/.

Someone using the term
>Nshittywhore

Is flat out /v/core shit.

>>6755851
This is exactly how I always held it.

>still making gaystation kids mad 30 yrs later

>>6756450
"Kiddy shit" apparently.

>>6755796
Hey, Nintendo had to always come up with a new gimmick for it's controllers. Nothing they did after the n64 excepft for smash melee was decent anyway so yeah, you really miss the N64's library after you play with the gamecube or the wii for a while.
>Mario sunshine
God forbid
>Mario Galaxy
Extremely cool game that would be a fucking masterpiece on a normal gamepad, completely ruined by having the default B button (attack) assigned to a fucking wrist motion, who wants to do that
>Zelda Twilight Princess
Same. Good thing it's so hugely late to the party in terms of technology, you can actually play the very same fucking game on the console that came before that. Good God Nintendo really had no shame.
>Gamecube
Got that piece of shit, played like 10 thousand hours of Melee with friends (no joke I actually did we won all kinds of tournaments) and absolutely nothing else
>Wii
Worst buyer's remorse I ever felt. Had my parents spend a fortune on it, the only title I was actually interested in was Smash Brawl and we all know it's utter crap because muh handicap
At least the N64 had like some 20 games really worth playing. Perfect Dark alone makes it a better console than anything after.

>>6756551
Only massive noobs did that. I compare it to holding a SNES or a PSX pad without resting your index fingers on the shoulder buttons, it's an instant form of detecting bad players.

>>6756696
>Complains every console is shit after the N64; but still continues to buy them.

>>6756387
If you were a true patrician at the time, you would have the N64 for the multiplayer games with them friends (Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Mario Party, Smash, Mario Kart, Mario Tennis) at weekends, plus you'd have the PSX for the weekdays after school for them JRPG's and survival horror games.
That was the way to live the life.
>Monday to thursday
JRPG's from noon (after school) to 22-23pm (bed time)
>Friday to sunday
4-player friendship-ending madness on the N64

>>6756710
Let's be honest. Any body struggling to use this controller properly is mentally deficient.

>>6756723
I only bought the ngc and the wii for smash as I was a pretty dedicated tourneyfag, as I said.
With the gamecube it worked wonders, but with the Wii, it was money down the drain.

>>6756732
Who wants to have to fucking flick their arms and wrists to press "B" in a game, for fuck's sake

>>6756387
Holy based

>Spawned the "N64-kid", the millennial responsible for giving their generation a bad rep and is the root of all sōi in today's culture. Today they are know by names such as nu-males, manchild, sōibois, cucklōrds etc. They all had the N64 as their first console.

>>6756732
So really , you were just upset that you didn't like brawl.

>>6756741
To be fair, you just click the remote to make Mario Spin; something that you don't have to use that often.

>>6756765
>being this insecure

>>6756765
Anyone that didn't have at LEAST the snes / genesis as their first console is guaranteed to be a massive noob for life
You had to grow up playing Atari or NES to be forged by hellfire into a cold-blooded gaming machine

>>6756765
Based and truthpilled.

>>6756710
It never gave me any problems. holding it by the middle prong just feels wrong.

>>6755796
>not having 3 hands
Inferior life form detected.

>>6756765
This is surprisingly true actually.

>>6756765
The most truth I've seen in a /vr/ thread before

N64/PS1 kiddies should be on /v/. /vr/ should be pre-1995 games/consoles only. The N64 and PS1 started what became modern gaming, style over substance crap with storygame shit and/or bad controls covered up with pretty graphics (at the time) or other bullshit to impress nongamer noobs the industry began to cater to at the time to make MOAR MONEYS.

>>6756856
>/vr/ should be pre-1995 games/consoles only
Like the PlayStation, which was released in 1994.

>>6756856
>>6756861
OH SHIT is your name Drake cos that anon just called you on your SELF OWN lmfao

>>6756551
Me also, it's the best way for people with big hands. It gives you stability and balance.
>>6756710
You can compare it to sucking your mom's asshole for all we care, you're just wrong. Why would people be holding it this way after 24 years if it wasn't a good way to hold it? I tried to get used to the left hand holding the middle prong and it doesn't work for me.

I propose we ban the N64 from /vr/ and move it to /v/.

Fact:

- Unlike all the other consoles on /vr/ it only had 3D games.
- When people think of "retro" they usually think 2D pixel games.
- The fans (those who grew up with) the N64 doesn't "organically" fit in on this board because of this.
- In fact it has lead to a lot of conflict and bitter troll posting hindering anons enjoyment of their passion.
- Setting the cutoff for retro to and including 1995 will still allow the PSX (1994) and Saturn (1995) their rightful place on /vr/.
- This excluding the N64 (1996) completely.
- With the N64 fans instead having they same preferences, attitudes and posting styles to those that congregate on /v/, this will be a more natural alignment and for the best of all involved.

I'm afraid this probably has to happen, but I'm glad that with it we can start looking forward to sharing our love and passion for games in the appropriate channels, in ways only before imaginable.

Concerned but with peace in heart,
All of /vr/, except N64 fans.
08/2020 - 4Chan

reddit really fucked this place these last couple of weeks huh

>>6757727
Retro means consoles released before 2000.

>>6755796
OP hate thread.

>>6755851
I used to hold it like this as a kid

>>6757746
But needs to be set to before 1996 in light of the issues lately on /vr/, but don't be afraid, it will be so much better for everyone :)

>>6755851
Same here.

C’mon OP , you know you liked it.

Castlevania 64 is underrated and the best 3D one.

>>6757727
Make exception for Dreamcast and we're fine

>>6757802
Best 3d one absolutely, but ALL 3d castlevania games were so fucking shitty, so that’s not saying much

>>6757727
>Unlike all the other consoles on /vr/ it only had 3D games.
hmmmm

>>6757832
Don't be greedy lad, we still get the Saturn and it's worth it dumping the N64-kids cancer on /v/.

despite its flaws, you cant argue that it wasn't the best multiplayer console of that gen

>>6757907
>quite possibly THE most obscure title in the entire generation only available in moonspeak
>is 1 (one) game

You sure know how to make your case son.

>>6757756
>>6757775
fucking idiots

>>6757873
Dont get it wrong, I think that Castlevania 64 is pretty much worse than all the 2D ones except maybe Simons Quest and the GB titles. But I think pretty much everyone sleeps on it. The Dracula battle is awesome, a lot of the music is really good and it leans more into the gothic horror roots of the series than most of the games. It has its place is all I'm saying.

simons quest was good i dont get the hate for it

>>6757951
I like the atmosphere and the graphics for the most part, but it has probably the shittiest bosses in the whole franchise in a series known for great bosses, there's no denying that, Especially Dracula. It really hurts the game.

64chads having a laugh as usual while sonycels lose their minds. great thread

>>6757915
Where else will we talk about DC?
Pretty pleeaaase?

>>6758026
That cover just so loudly proclaims it's a game made for intelligent and sensible individuals of good taste. Only for the Nintendo 64 it reads too, but of course.

I refuse to believe that there are people out there who are so stupid, that they can't figure out how to hold an N64 controller properly.

>>6758026

this game was so much fun with 4 players! i loved inviting all my friends over and playing it. we always had a blast playing it (with 4 players). surely our friendly neighborhood sonybros had something comparable?

>>6758098
Not a warfag but if you liked that you'll likely enjoy smackdown 2 for PS1

>>6758098
there were 4 player wrestling games but you had to buy the multi tap i personally didnt know anyone who had one

>>6757758
halo will be /vr/ before you know it

>>6757727
>Only had 3D games

>>6757784
>the game that spawned the most cringe, autistic, pedo-filled, odorous, cancer shit stain group of manchildren the fighting community have been desperately trying to get rid off since day one

Another fine thing the N64 gifted the world.

>>6758249
It's a fun game but anyone who views it as a competitive game is a faggot. Actually scratch that, everyone in the (((FGC))) is a faggot.

>>6756187
>>6755851
I knew how to hold it as a 4 year old. Anyone who had trouble is a certified brainlet.

>>6756728
That guy clearly didn’t have any friends to play the N64 with so it makes sense he’s seething.

basedny advertisement robot #293875-JRPG, you have satisfacted your shill quota. you shall now recieve your spyro branded bodypillow and monthly food ration.

>>6755851
That's how I hold it.

>>6755796
What are you talking about? People still haven't figured out the way to use the N64 controller?
Right hand on right handle, left hand on middle handle, third leg on left handle.

>>6757727
>it only had 3D games.

>>6759231
hoyl shit those emulation glitches.

>>6759231
Wow, doesn't look shit at all!

>>6759241
poorly coded Nintendo 64 emulator

>>6755796
Why, that's wrong, the middle thing is to shove up Nintoddlers' asses desu

>>6759249
Explains why they're such a bunch of faggots, makes sense.

>>6759249
>>6759268
absolutely based mature gamers seeing dicks everywhere

>>6759274
Who said anythint about dicks?
Based dick desperate Nintoddler

>>6759278
based mature gamer, he only plays games that are for mature people, such as Crash Bandicoot, not like those fucking nintoddlers!

As much as Sony fanboys shitpost on /vr/, at least they're still cucked about PS2 not being retro. They only have 1 console on /vr/.
Segatendor idorts always win in the end.

>>6756387
You couldn't even find the equivalent games on PS1 for him to play. Hilarious.

>>6756387
There isn't a single reason for making this reply that isn't pathetic and creepy.

>>6756387
>overrated, looks like shit, Spyro is better

BASED

>There isn't a single reason for making this reply that isn't pathetic and creepy.

>>6759309
Imma tell you a little secret faggot, most Sony "fanboys" came straight from the SNES or Genesis, they're "fanboys" of the 3rd and 4th generation too so they're more than covered on /vr/. It's just that they already in the 90s understood the N64 was shit and thus a disappointment that made them go with the PS1 since it was more of a true successor to the versatile SNES that Nintendo's own misguided effort.

It's not Nintendo they hate, it's the N64 and the autistic manchild spectacle that surrounds it.

>>6759470
>most Sony "fanboys" came straight from the SNES or Genesis, they're "fanboys" of the 3rd and 4th generation too
Highly doubtful. I'd even wager most Sony fanboys started with the PS2 (or maybe even PS3) and only do retrospective console wars supporting the PS1 just because it's on the same family of consoles they grew up with.

>Love N64
>Been replaying Winback
>Console keeps resetting itself for no reason randomly
Well, guess my N64 is about to die. Time to jump ship to the haters league.

>>6756387
Based

>>6759480
>I'm fucking delusional

So you, having used intelligent thought and reasoning, have concluded that people not even having owned the PS1, or PS2 for that matter, are rather spending their time here on /vr/ defending a console they have no relation to instead of spending it over at /v/ doing it for their respective console generations there, is engaging in some kind of fictive "retrospective console war"?!

This is paranoid schizophrenia, you are mentally ill!

>>6755796
N64 was great. Playstation was great as well. Imagine not growing up with both.

>>6759572
>have concluded that people not even having owned the PS1, or PS2 for that matter, are rather spending their time here on /vr/
Do you find this hard to believe? I'm not even saying it's the majority... shitposters are usually very few in number, but very loud/persistent.

>>6756321
Everyone hates sonyggers anyway. No spam required.

>>6755851
>Hand on buttons you rarely even use
Why?
It's much more comfortable the correct way

>>6759578
Even if you only had one system, why hate the other?

>>6757727
>t. signed, Faggot

>>6757727
Extremely based.

>>6760096
People have always engaged in us vs them brand loyalty, long before vidya entered the equation. Everyone wants to feel like the purchases they've made (or those that were made on behalf of them) are the right ones, and combative brand v brand marketing certainly helped that mindset.

For retro vidya in particular, I think part of it is also that most games don't hold up well by today's standards. So someone who only owned X or Y console going back and trying games on a system they don't have any nostalgia for will tend to be far more critical, and that feeds back into the "console I grew up with is great, other console is shit" mentality.

Oddly designed controller with a weak stick.
Sometimes horrible draw distance on graphics.
Very solid, but fewer good games, where many felt similar.
For being 64bit it was still only As good as f.ex. PS1 which is 32bit.

>>6755796
The controller is awful, you basically need 3 hands to control it. It was basically designed with Goro in mind. Which is why I bought the Brawler 64 controller instead.

I also am in awe at the level of idiocy necessary to not understand how to use an n64 controller. I AM TUROK!!!

>>6759249
>not sticking the Rumble Pak up your ass

>>6760782
The N64: designed for people with an IQ higher than a boiled potato.

Unfortunately that seems to rule out quite a lot of people on this board

>>6759609
>"correct" way is control stick, Start, and redundant Z, with base of left thumb unnaturally directly below the stick
>non-retard way is control stick, Start, D-pad, and L, with control stick to the right of thumb joint as is standard with all controllers now
The problem has never been with the controller, it's been with kids who can't read the fucking manual.

>>6761103
List left-position games:
- that one mini game in Pokémon Stadium
- Goldeneye in left-handed mode, except you still need to reach to the right to reload and interact
- Perfect Dark in left-handed mode, as above
…?

>>6755851
Lol hit the trigger with your dick or wat? Stupid picture

>>6761662
Middle finger. It's really weird to me to see so many people bothered by this way of holding the controller.

>>6761662
The same way as always shithead. It's almost like you never even used a N64 controller.

>>6755796
What is the point of decades old console wars?

>>6761420
Yeah, they didn't make much use of it. Conceptually, it was an interesting way to bridge the gap between 2D and 3D games, but I think Sony had the better idea when the DualShock came out

>>6755796
Man is everyone on this board a fucking brainlet? the left side is an option for games that use the d-pad. it just wasnt used very much in games

>>6756275
>no perfect dark
it's objectively better than goldeneye in every aspect including story missions

>>6761420
I'm pretty sure you can play Sin and Punishment that way

>>6762428
As did Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-Oh!, also by Treasure. And Mischief Makers used the home position.

>>6762280
they were born around the time the wii came out.

>>6755851

Retards who held it like this were the same dumb cunts that thought easy games were hard.

>>6755796
It really is a piece of shit, but don't expect anyone on this site to go against nintendo.

Honestly, N64 was far and away Nintendo''s worst console (unless you want to count GBC and Virtual boy) but the script all these retards spew has N64 as the supposed greatest console of all time.

A console with less that 1000 games, 90% of which are either bad ports or multiplatform, the rest is shovelware, jap only anime licensed shovelware and first party games (on top of all the technical flaws and using an inferior format as well). Certain fuck wits will even claim Goldeneye is a bad game these days, and it was the only reason I even got the console at all in the 90's. There is no teaching these morons and there is no reasoning with them.

You could list all the best arcade, PC, PS1 and Saturn games and they'd tell you they all sucked (with a straight face) and then rant about kiddie dong fucking racing for an hour.

They're beyond delusional.

>>6762661
>Spouts bullshit, gets upset that people aren't listening to bullshit.

>>6762756
>is listening to said bullshit

>>6762770
At least you admit that it is bullshit.

>>6762795
I didn't write that post. And I didn't say it was bullshit, you did.

More than one person, a lot in fact on here, would like nothing more than you n64 faggots collectively KYS. You're a disgrace to gaming.

>>6762379
It runs noticeably worse, so there's that.

>>6762874
Why do you reply pretending to be different? There's only one anti n64 contrarian on this board

>>6761420
Home position covers every use case without issue. You'd have to have some absolutely puny hands for it not to.

>>6762661
/thread

>>6755796
Shut up geek haha

Stop bumping this awful bait thread

>>6756387
Now this is the kind of quality shitpost I still come back here.
Good job, retarded nintenyearolds SEETHING lmao

>>6762661
>needing 1000 games
Go play outside retard

just dropping in to say the n64 is a heap of shit with only banjo kazooie as its saving grace

>>6762874
>I didn't write the post.
Hahahaha!

It was a good system that didn't live up to the hype, the saturn didn't either. Nintendo did learn and the Gamecube pretty much fixed every complaint of the n64.

What was the legacy of the n64, was it z targeting in zelda. Mario 64 and Starfox were great but they were pretty much dead ends evolutionarily, newer games didn't use the innovations they had.

Its like the Amiga, if a games uses the hardware right it can be great.

Here are some games that use the n64 well in the game it not limited from hardware limitations.
>pilotwings
>mario 64
>starfox
>doom 64
>f zero
>paper mario
>yoshi's story
>pokemon puzzle
>nba jam

A game that uses the hardware horribly
>glover

>>6763885
You didn't get the word "limited" in as much as you would have liked to.

>Here's a list of games
Thanks Metal Jexus

imagine arguing about old games lmao

>>6761103
>base of left thumb unnaturally directly below the stick
That's literally the most ergonomic position for it, retard.

>>6755796
the only games worth playing you can play on a wii
even though an emulator it's optimized to run good enough to not matter

>>6756387
>Quake 2 on PS1 is better

>>6756387
snoy cope holy shit

>>6758371
please tell me what i can do for the cynder bodypillow

Nintendo and Sega will be always superior to Sony.
Get over it.

>>6764424
Which is why every controller since has the sticks further from the base of the thumb now, right, retard?

>N64
Devoid of RPG's but had superior FPS's to what was on PS1, better multiplayer games, excellent 3D platformers, and better graphics generally despite muddy textures.

>PS1
Superior RPG selection, better fighting games, lots of survival horror, and had some great 3D platformers but was packing in compelling multiplayer games outside of Twisted Metal and fighting games. Graphics were more crisp but lower resolution and lots of texture warping.

>>6756441
Croc is a Saturn game.
Playstation scotformers are also kiddy but they're for cooler kiddies than Mariofags.
Sorry nincel, hope you can cope with this redpill.

>>6757746
I propose we replace the N64 with the PS2.

>>6764718
>every controller
Maybe every Playstation controller, but when I hold my Xbox 360 controller, Wii U Pro controller, Switch Pro controller, or even a Wii Nunchuk my thumb has the exact same straight position.

Sony ruined gaming.

>>6764750
Croc is a PC game.

>>6764785
Not really, Sony fanboys have definitely ruined multiple boards though

>>6759231
>not using Parallel RDP/RSP and CRT filters to at least make MM look passable
Go ahead. Give me your best anti-Retroarch cope, brainlet.

>>6764750
>Do you realise how fucking stupid you all sound?
Obviously not.

>>6765469
Who are you quoting?

snes was GOAT tier. but nothing good outside handhelds since then. where did it all go wrong, nintendbros?

>>6755851
zoomer identification strategy

You can remove 50% of the Vaseline blu using a gameshark

>>6766176

>>6765410
Which N64 game is that?

>>6766176
Still doesn't fix the framerate

>>6766189
You can turn off the texture filtering if you really gotta have those le retro pixels so bad.

>>6756513
You using leddit spacing is flat out leddit-core shit

>>6766190

Well I mean, if you use the gameshark software deblur injunction with the RGB/HDMI mod's hardware deblur, you get an extra 3-5 FPS in some games.


Obviously, you shouldn't have to mode your fucking console to get rid of an intentional "feature" which is objectively shit, but if real hardware tickles your pickel, there you go.

>>6766209

Middle school-level English formatting and syntax is not "reddit core," retard.

>>6755796
10 frames per second.

>>6766249
>Middle school-level English formatting and syntax
Thanks for exposing yourself as underage b&. See you in 6 years, hopefully not.

>>6766349

I'm 28 and I've been here longer than you. Go back to 5th grade, retard.

>>6766372
Does that picture you posted have anything to do with anything?

>>6766372
>Screenshot_20200807

>>6766384

Timestamps, association with kitty, and the "le reddit spacing" from twothousand and fucking four.

>>6766407
>twothousand and fucking four.
And reddit started in 2005. Your point?
Also the kitty comparison hurts you. I now think you're a pedophile and should be global 1'd.

>>6766414

Kitty is in her 30s now. She's older than me.

>>6766051
The general consensus.

Back when /vr/ first started you couldn't do shit like this.

Why is it okay now?

>>6766526
[citation needed]

>>6766772
Indeed you're correct, when /vr/ first started the N64 wasn't even allowed.
Now it is, so it's OK.

>>6766425
Indeed. She is 3x your age.

>>6755851
You don't ever use the D-pad on an N64 controller. Left hand goes on the middle part so you can comfortably use the joystick and Z trigger.
Also even when you're doing that color smoke slide move in Mario Kart 64 you do that with R and not L no matter which direction you need because either one just makes you jump to start it and the direction is handled by joystick.

>>6755796
>thread about PS2 port of a Dreamcast game is pruned within 24 hours
>this shitpost is still up
For shame.

>>6755796
Based OP. nshitty4 is the worst console of all time.

>>6767229

Except thats fucking wrong, retard.

>>6755796
>its another filtered zoomer
you're an idiot

>>6758513
That's what she said

>>6756387
>OoT
>MM
>Most overrated games of all time, look like actual dogshit, Vagrant Story better

I know you're shitposting since the second line but this part gave me the bsod. Your comparison choice is total shit. At least use MGS as an example as they were released around the same time. VS has no business with Nintendo's Master Stud

>>6756728
Give me a time machine anon, I want to go back.

>>6766425
Jfc who has the before and after pics of kitty sauce nao

>>6766182
>the way you hook up your game to a TV gives the game soul or takes it away.
dude, stop posting on 4channel and go outside. youve had too much internet today

>>6770048
>the way you hook up your game to a TV gives the game soul or takes it away
Absolutely, yes.

>>6770048
Its true though, that's why they are pushing the RGB and HDMI mod meme.. its a trick to strip away the soul. You hear saying shit like, its not as fun as I remember it, doesn't look good etc. Thats the plan working. There's literally no need to play modern games when we have the classics on hand . That's also why they jack up the game market with coomlectors so we can't but the reak games and play them on real hardware. That's also why emulators were invented, they have to provide all forms of outlets to get you off the soul path and into something that removes the soul and the fun goodness from the game so you go back to the new games. Alos why they keep remaking the ordinal soulful games so people plypay them and sont go back.

>>6770054
Dude wow that's a great comparison

>>6770056
I was gonna say you guys dont know what soul means, but I think you kinda sold me

>>6770056
I get that you're schizo posting, but I'll give you a serious response anyway.
>that's why they are pushing the RGB and HDMI mod meme.. its a trick to strip away the soul
I think the primary drive behind how that's marketed via influencers is simply the classic 'convince you there's a problem so we can sell you the solution'.
>You hear saying shit like, its not as fun as I remember it
A lot of that is just people's tastes evolving over time as they're exposed to more refined modern games. Some games hold up much better than others. For an extreme example, I played the shit out of Sonic Spinball (93) as a kid, but going back to it today, the framerate is shit, and it just handles poorly. Yet Addiction Pinball (98) holds up wonderfully against modern offerings, and I can still fire it up and enjoy it.
>doesn't look good etc
I 100% agree that modern displays don't do these games justice.
>There's literally no need to play modern games when we have the classics on hand
Modern games are good too, one should be able to enjoy a healthy balance of both.

>>6770141
Fair response, but I want to talk about the idea of games aging. Games don't age, i mean the physical medium can degrade but the game itself doesn't really do much. So if a game aged poorly, it can't be the game but the player aging poorly.
Clearly you liked Sonic Spinball but you don't now. Surely that's not a good thing, something has altered you to prevent you from liking the game. If someone could restore your enjoyment of Sonic, you'd take it, right? There's no benefit to not liking it.

So clearly, something has imposed itself upon you between when you played it as a kid and now, probably without your consent , and removed your enjoyment of that sonic game. That imposition, is of course, modern video games! Its so wrong to take people,especially pleasure away from them, and I hope there's some way to holisitcally reverse the mental poisoning we've undergone.

>>6770221
>So if a game aged poorly, it can't be the game but the player aging poorly.
It depends. I think there's a variety of ways a game can age, at least up to a certain cutoff point. I'll break it down into a few different categories.

>Audio
This is an easy one to explain. Compare a game where the audio consists of system beeps to something from gen 4 with detailed sound effects and music. At the time, we found those system beeps acceptable because our frame of reference was highly limited, but once the flood gates opened and we had proper audio that greatly enhanced the experience, I think most would find it difficult, if not impossible to go back to enjoying the beeps.
>Technical
Primarily concerning framerate, we were willing to put up with that during gen 5 because the graphics blew us away, but once the graphics were no longer cutting edge, playing a 3D action game at ~12fps (Goldeneye/Perfect Dark) feels terrible. I can't enjoy modern consoleshit for the same reason. With GE/PD, however, we can play them at 60FPS with mouse and keyboard now, and the gameplay holds up wonderfully.
>Visuals
Compare Final Fantasy 1 to Final Fantasy 6 or Chrono Trigger, or SMB to DKC, or Zelda 1 to ALttP. Like with audio, gen 4 represented a quantum leap in gorgeous visuals where it became very easy to fully immerse yourself in the experience.
>Controls/Camera
Particularly with gen 5, everyone was trying a new way of handling character and camera movement in a 3D space, and often it turned out poorly. Today, we're at a point where these controls have been largely standardized, allowing for fluid and efficient control.

>>6770221
>If someone could restore your enjoyment of Sonic, you'd take it, right? There's no benefit to not liking it.
That's a tough one. I look at it like I was eating burned, flavorless ground beef, and enjoying it as I had a limited frame of reference. Once I tasted expertly cooked steak, I just couldn't go back. Of course if I could snap my fingers and make said flavorless ground beef taste like the finest steak, I'd do it, but I don't feel like the existence of higher quality meat has wronged me in some way.

n64 was the definition of soul over substance

>>6770873
nigger the 64 had substance

>>6770873
YOU DOUBLE NIGGER TRIPLE KNUCKLE KERFUFFLE TRUFFLE FAGGOT

>>6770873
Based

>>6762620
>>6755851
Always held the controller that way, but at the same time, even at then, when I was what, 14 I thought the duke xbox controller was just the right size, I honestly fucking hate how small game controllers always felt in my hands once the moved from flat things you held with thumbs to here is where you can grip the controller, at least to fig my hands well I would need playstation controller to be about 50~% bigger to give some context.

and given that I kicked the shit out of everyone at any game in my school I wasn't the dipshit who cant play games.

>>6770141
>>6770056
well ill add my 2 cents here.

games look like hell hooked directly up to tvs today due to how they scale, so we made integer scallers
because we wanted cleaner video, we got mods that get use cleaner video
because some people just want a single console solution for a modern problem, they have mods

there are many tricks games did with crts to get effects they had no right to have due to hardware limitations, and they could also run at many resolutions, re2 on n64 changes resolution every fucking screen and old crts could take it, but a modern lcd just cant.

personally I just want a nice sharp image with as little lag as possible, and for the most part, emulators can get me there.

also
>>6766176

holy shit do I despised AA passes in old games, all it did was tank frame rate into single digits, that game played like such shit that even when it was on a crt I just couldn't bring myself to play further despite loving it when I rented it years earlier.