/vr/ - Retro Games

i never really liked these games so much

the arrow points to the one with most soul

>>6724728
No female protag so DKC1 is always my go-to

>>6724745
Based

>>6724746
imagine having a dogshit reason to prefer an inferior game

>The fact that so many gamers still name Donkey Kong Country as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" video game ever only tells you how far video games still are from becoming a serious art. Video game developers have long recognized that the greatest video games of all times are The Legend of Zelda and Super Mario Bros., which were not the most graphically advanced or acclaimed or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. I myself rank the highly controversial Super Mario U.S.A. over video games that were highly popular in arcades around Japan. Gamers are still blinded by good graphics. Donkey Kong Country had better graphics than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Music enthusiasts grow up listening to a lot of music of the past, film enthusiasts grow up watching a lot of films of the past. Gamers are often totally ignorant of the video games of the past, they barely know gameplay mechanics. No wonder they will think that Donkey Kong Country is anything worthy of being played.
– Shigeru Miyamoto (1995)

>>6724728
There are no good DKC games.

>>6724741
When I was a kid, I felt like it was almost too stylish to the point where I psyched myself over the collision-detection and platforms. Revisiting them as an adult, it's a lot more intuitive and solid than I remember.
>>6724746
Dixie is based though.

Retro's games are better than Rare's, but that's not /vr/.

YARRR! ye must be a landlubber scalawag if ye prefer the first game to the swashbuckling sequel!

first one is more cohesive
second is more of a challenge
nobody likes the third but I'm very grateful it was made

>>6724728
Here, I fixed it for you

>>6724728
I never really cared for either.

>>6724728
I like DKC1 more because of the atmosphere. The levels being based in more natural settings, along with the music created a nice vibe. Also I think DKC2 had more infuriating levels.

>>6724803
What do you mean by cohesive?
That's such a nonsensical word to use without any context

>>6724728
kinda equal for me, 2 has more variety but along with this varity there is some complete dogshit like those beehive levels or that bird race, meanwhile dk1 overall is a excellent game with not a single bullshit.

>>6724728
Based and true

>>6724912
>vulture culture
>platform perils
>not bullshit
both games have clutch moments. also hating on based zinger hive levels just tells me you're a pussy

>>6724884
Underages love to throw around buzzwords that have no meaning unless you give them context. It makes them think they're an intelligent big boy. My latest favorite is "[x] genre is bad by definition." By whose definition? Vidya genres are difficult enough to pinpoint and define in the first place.

6724760
Seek help you fucking mentally ill incel freak.

>>6724807
do sega toddlers really?

>>6724807
Based. Vectorman gameplay is so much more interesting and satisfying than Dankey Kang's simplistic jump 'n roll mechanics.

>>6724793
excuse mme while I jack off

>>6725021
frogposters belong in the kids garden >>>/v/

>>6724728
you're right, dkc2 did come after dkc1

I think the OST of both is equal, maybe ever so slightly in 2's favor. 1 is just a straight up platformer, where 2 has a lot of "gimmick" stages and faggots like to say, though the only ones I can say I dislike are the ones where you turn into the animal buddies. They should've just kept Animal Antics for that.
Getting 101% on 1 is pretty bad, the bonuses are jank as fuck, and overall the production value of 2 has increased. Overall picking either one is right.

Why do people get so autistic over this series?

>>6725186
>why do people discuss things they like
Choke on nigger dick faggot

>>6725138
just dilate already

>>6725204
I can fuck you with my completely functional penis, miserable sub human.

>>6725192
>discuss
Saying you like one game over the other isn't discussion.

>>6725208
ok tranny

>>6725237
trannies don't have functional genitalia, kid

Dkc2 is my favorite game of all time!

>>6725241
ok tranny

>>6725218
Dumb underages can only think of things in terms of superlatives, so every game has to be 'better' or 'worse' than another, because they are mentally incapable of discussing the merits of both.

>>6725341
But to discuss the merits of either you have to have some standard for what's good and what's bad. For something to be good you need to know what is bad and vice versa. I can't call donkey kong country 2 a bad game without comparing it to other games to explain why those mechanics are bad

>>6725360
It's meaningless to judge DKC2's quality by only comparing it to games in its own series, though. That's why threads like this are so fucking terrible. If you want to make a DKC thread, fine, if you want to say you prefer the first game, fine. But your thread is going to be full of worthless shitposting if the only takeaway from your OP is 'the original is better than the sequel'. At the very least, you could substantiate that argument, but the types of faggots who make threads like this only do it to sling shit. It's just fucking tiresome.

>>6724745
#knockout

>>6725316
>NOO YOU CAN'T HATE PEPE, MUST BE A LEFTY TRANNY
I am not even ameriburger. Cry more in the corner about me not liking your frog. and >>>/v/

>>6725118
>Dankey Kan
Damn, I say it this way all the time. Thought I was the only one. Fucking based, anon.

>>6725616
Ok redneck.

>>6725192
>Asks why people get autistic over a series, gets most autistic reply imaginable.

>>6724728
My subjective opinion says otherwise. Now go be a fag somewhere else. A fucking thread, etc...

>>6725630
It's a fairly well known meme you dip

>>6725638
Rednecks FTW

>>6724807
Kind of, but they're all great

>>6725698
no you

>>6724912
>dk1 overall is a excellent game with not a single bullshit.

Poison Pond is probably the worst designed stage in the entire trilogy

Although DKC1 is great, and historically significant, and I have fond memories of it, i have zero desire to replay it. I'd unironically rather play DKC3. But DKC2 is my fave

>>6727167
You just have shit taste and thats ok but i won't respect it

>>6727194
No offense taken whatsoever

i don't care how good the music is in the 2nd one,. 1st one just had better mix of levels and let you play as master dong

>>6727248
1st has drastically better music anyway.

DKC 1 was a milestone graphically and the gameplay was great. The physics felt good especially rolling/cartwheels and it was a bit challenging at parts but never really hard. Focus on finding secrets/bonuses and exploration. I feel like DKC2 just expands on the formula and runs with it though. I’ll admit its the most “gimmicky” platformer of all time maybe and if you don’t like that than DKC1 would be more your thing. But I like the gimmicks it adds variety to me and makes the game unique. Its harder and has better bosses and dixies hair twirl is a nice touch. More variety in level types and every one has something different in it. Unlockable bonus stages. Basically if you like the gimmicks picks DKC2 if you want a straight platformer pick DKC1.

>>6727248
Yeah DKC2 music is one of the all time tops. DKC1’s isn’t bad but not legendary

>>6725089
dont see a problem on those, i like bouncing on enemies and only the very of platform perils is just a bit annoying.
i found slowly scrolling down the hive with the parrot more annoying.
>>6727037
why? feels like the regular water level for me, dont like them very much but not that bad.

>>6728013
Just because you personally found it annoying doesn't mean it's objectively harder. I can one-shot the parrot chute level every time. Also "but I like them" isn't an argument, your subjective experience proves nothing

>>6725861
Maybe I forgot that heard/saw this meme a long time agoand just remember it subliminally or some shit, then.

>>6724807
BASED

>

Honestly this is another of those "SMB3 vs World" situations where autists just duke it out over 2 objective masterpieces.
I personally think DKC2 is the better game, but I prefer the first one. DKC2 is more ambitious and it works in its favor, but I prefer the simplicity of the ludo element of DKC1.
We can easily all agree on the fact Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest are irrefutably the best platformer games made in the west.

>You need coins to save in DKC2
>In Japanese you only need one instead of two
The coins suck.

>>6729648
this post made me realize diddy kong is the only western smash bros rep

>>6724807
Basically.
Genesis action games are almost always better than SNES.
SNES is great if you love button mashing non threatening enemies for hours in Jarpigs.

>>6729659
Just save state like the little bitch that you are.

>>6729648
DKC1 is an extremely mediocre platformer that only got recognition for its graphics. DKC2 is the actual good fucking game that made a name for itself.

>>6729724
It's not really. The controls are swift and precise, the level design encourage you to get good while never slowing down momentum. The only actual criticism I could see is that bosses are simple and they get recolored, but fuck it, bosses were never the main aspect of platformers.
Name a better western-made platformer than DKC1.

>>6729734
>Name a better western-made platformer than DKC1.
DKC2.

>>6729707
Since there are infinite continues forcing the player to grind coins to save purely exists to waste time. I've beaten dkc 2 many times on console already, bitch.

>>6729760
Then stop complaining about a punishment that bad players get.

>>6727037
Based fellow Poison Pond hater.
>>6728013
Poison Pond is a slog to get through. It's one of the biggest levels in the game and it's full of entirely too damn many Mincers... and little else. Five minutes of twitchy maneuvering isn't fun for most of us.

Also, those parts where you're swimming down a horizontal tunnel and a Mincer comes flying at you from the other end of the screen before you can react are pure bullshit. Fuck them.

>>6724728
Donkey Kong Country 1 is the only one where you actually play as Donkey Kong. So its better by default.

>>6729862
What a retarded braindead nigger way of thinking of it.

>>6724752
Dilate

>>6724728
Having just replayed both recently, no. 2 is so much better if only for the fact that the gimmick levels are better designs.

>>6724803
>nobody likes the third
Stop taking 4chan memes and what amounts to gen wars as fact

original game's art direction is very "My PowerAnimator Portfolio 1994" but I kind of like it for that reason. It respects the limits of the SNES more than its sequels.

>>6730617
>It respects the limits of the SNES more than its sequels.
I'm curious what you actually mean by this.

>>6730645

Smaller objects, broader color palettes, increased compression to squeeze more assets into a 32mbit cartridge

>>6730645

Sequels have smaller objects, broader color palettes, increased compression to squeeze more assets into a 32mbit cartridge

>>6729662
Well and King K Rool

>tfw I spanked the monkey to this as a kid

>>6730617
>that filter
lookin' good

>>6724807

>>6730645
I took it to mean that the graphics of the sequels are more complex and it looks a bit uncanny because the SNES can’t quite live up to that complexity.

I get a similar feeling from the SuperFX games that tried to push beyond Star Fox and (in my opinion) failed.

>>6724760
DKC>Mario
Eat shit shiggy, Mario fucking sucked pre-64 era

DKC3 is the best game but you're not ready for that conversation yet

>>6724728
I agree, DKC2 did in fact come out after DKC1

>>6733986
DKC3 is way better than people give it credit for, but you have to be able to appreciate its unique stage design ideas rather than hate it for them.

Personally I think DKC1 is too unpolished and a bit clunky to call it the best. I do understand the appeal of its simplicity that many in this thread have stated but I personally adore the aesthetic and ideas present in 2. I'd say 2>3>1.

>>6734047
DKC2 is the worst dk game by far. From the uninspired and Ill fitting music to the terribly repetitive stages, it manages to outdo its shit tier time after time, especially those times they feel like simply vomiting more bees into the stages to present ample artificial difficulty. Saves costing coins after the first save is ludicrous when you consider how they went the extra mile to gimp extra live accumulation. Final boss having 5 fucking phases, most of which rely on memory rather than intuition, is nothing short of a diarrheic disaster.
Everyone I have ever met who proclaims this game to be their favorite of the franchise has never actually played it to completion. I beat this shit pile of a game just to fully understand it and try to see if I was merely missing something when hearing the hype. DKC1 is my favorite but I can admit that 3 is the best game of the snes DK games.
I have no idea why people like dkc2, but I'm assuming a popular, brain damaged zoomer e celebrity fellated it on YouTube once, that's the only logically reasonable conclusion I can think of.

>>6734193
I beat the game fully as a kid after clearing DKC1. It's difficult but not that bad now that I've played it again as an adult. Remember feeling really accomplished when I beat the extra K. Rool fight the first time but he's a much easier battle than the actual final boss now that I look back on it.

If you are screaming about artificial difficulty in a game that isn't particularly hard in the first place, though it is trickier than DKC1 or 3, you are probably just not very good at video games.

>>6734221
Of course it's easier when you're older you retarded ape, it's all memory and your dumbass shit-filled-diaper-child self probably mindlessly embedded it into your peabrain from repetition. That's not good game design. The praise you give it is embarrassing and reminiscent of Stockholm syndrome, you were probably relieved that the traumatic ordeal was over ,and are conflating the vast dopamine injection that resulted from that cessation with natural joy dopamine.
Dkc2 sucks. Here is further proof:

DKC1 : anagram >D1CK
A game for men.

DKC3 : anagram >D3CK
For those playing with a full deck, sane persons.

DKC2 : anagram > a random babbling mess that makes no sense, much like it's fans.

>>6732561
It’s the contrary, Mario started to loose soul after entering 3D games.

>>6734305
Imagine being this insanely salty because you got filtered.

>>6734305
It's okay to say you just don't like a game, you don't have to go making things up.

>>6735565
Go back to /a/ faggot.

>>6734305
Holy fuck, what a pathetic post.