/vr/ - Retro Games

agreed

Play them both, but the order doesn't matter

>>6722341
Or just go read a picturebook, same thing really.

>>6722341
Riven's got a neat gimmick (all the puzzles being grounded), bit it's a huge pain in the ass.
The buttons hidden behind doors are enough to drop the score a few points for me.

>>6722426
>Myst is a glorified slideshow
and that's a GOOD thing

>>6722341
Myst was dumb, nothing to do but walk around and look at all the closed doors/blocked off paths

>>6722436
Only if you're still rocking that single speed CD-ROM drive

If you're the sort of person who would like Riven it makes no sense to skip Myst.

What's the appeal?

>>6722449
you got filtered, it was supposed to make you curious enough to figure out what was going on

>>6722590
It's good if you want to explore another world. If you aren't interested in that I can't recommend it

>>6722657
Yeah you definitely seem like the type to want to escape reality :^)

Both suck

>>6722657
So, like most video games then?

>>6722613
Men who use terms like "filtered" are incel virgins. Have sex, incel

>>6722659
Why do you play games, anon?

>>6722896
for fun

>>6722850
Still filtered

>>6722426
No it isn't. Picture books have no puzzles.

>>6723002
Buy better picturebooks poorfag

>>6722430
>The buttons hidden behind doors are enough to drop the score a few points for me.
That shit almost filtered me in Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis.

>>6723008
Unless you're reading Graeme Base or something you're SOL when it comes to puzzle picture books

>>6723002

anyone know any good adventure game lets plays that aren't annoying?

>>6723019
Deceased crab

>>6723019
the old Crimault Riven playthrough was fun

>>6722341
Why would I skip the better game?

>>6723041
How can you skip something it sounds like you've already played?

>>6722736
Not really. A lot of games have "mechanics" at the forefront, whether it's a puzzle game like Tetris or a platformer like Mario 64. And that doesn't mean you don't explore other worlds in Mario 64, that's part of the appeal for sure, but games like Myst and Riven are first and foremost about moving through a space. If you have no interest in exploring a world these artists created, like if a person only sees it as a "slideshow", then of course I can't recommend it just for the puzzles. But if you're a person who's really into the so-called "walking simulators" then something like Myst or Riven is fantastic.

>>6722341
No

>>6722724
You mom.

>>6723031
>first video looks decent, dude seems pretty chill and everything is good
>2nd and 3rd are 360p
>4th is 720p but looks like 360p
this is why I don't like lets plays

>>6722341
Make me.

>>6723252
oh, I forgot it was a long time ago, sorry

>>6723262
Why would the first video be fine, 2 of them 360p, 4th video is fine, 5th video is 720p but looks 360p

>>6723268
I dunno, I watched them when they were new and he seemed pretty incompetent. I and a small group of viewers had to keep pestering him to make new episodes.
I have a suspicion he cheated between videos too.

>>6722430
>Buttons hidden behind doors
>Pathways hidden behind bushes
I still think it's impossible to play this game without a walkthrough. Not for the puzzles but because the most basic navigational elements are often concealed by the environment.

>>6723275
wow 6th video is actually 1080p

>>6723281
>I still think it's impossible to play this game without a walkthrough
the intended it to take at least two months for the average person to figure the game out, you know think about things and then go back

>>6723302
>walk around in circles for an hour
>decide to look up the walkthrough
>I've walked past the path I was supposed to find every single time because it doesn't appear to be there from the image still. there is no indication a path is there at all. Important Insect rune at end of path needed to finish the game.
is this good design?

>>6723329
>there is no indication a path is there at all
you can clearly see the walkway from down below

>>6723291
Okay I found a better solution. I'm using this walkthrough https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/36592-riven-the-sequel-to-myst/faqs/36207 in the Edge browser with the read aloud function

>>6725735
while you play the game?

Skip myst and riven and go straight to 7th guest desu

>>6727087
>7th guest
The worst game in the genre
Just terrible puzzles
Big Fish Games tier

>>6727283
Very sorry to hear you weren't quite clever enough for 7th guest. Very few people are. Tell me anon, which of the puzzles did you get stuck on?

>>6727085
yes

>>6723302
How most people played Myst/Riven:
>buy game
>get permanently stuck
>wait 7 years
>internet access is widespread
>remember game
>replay it with gamefaqs in another window
No one wants to admit it

>>6722341
Myst actually matters though, who cares about Riven.

I just finished Myst, and was about to start Riven today. What are the recommended settings for Riven on ScummVM?

>>6727557
>which of the puzzles did you get stuck on?
The art alone was enough to give it a hard pass

>>6729116

>>6729169
This just makes it blurry

>>6729549
Did you turn off filtering?

>>6729549
>>6729557
Looks like this with my settings

>>6729560
This is what mine looks like. I guess it's kind of similar.

>>6729574
It's just how the game is.
This is how that same angle looks for me.
The game is low-res and 256 colors. The dithering is just how it is.

>>6729592
>It's just how the game is.
Alright, I'll just live with it. Thanks for the help.

>>6729672
Probably looked better on the CRT I played it on as a kid. Wish ScummVM had some good CRT shaders.

>>6729675
>Wish ScummVM had some good CRT shaders
That, or a neural upscaling option

>>6729681
One day. I wonder if the dithering would mess it up though.

>>6729692
I'd love to see a remaster using the original environmental renders and Myst III's 360 degree camera.

>>6729714
>original environmental renders
afaik they're all gone unfortunately
To do this would require as much work as the Starry Expanse Project, which is attempting to make the whole game in Unreal.

>>6729719
>afaik they're all gone unfortunately
That's a shame. I guess I know why it never received a remaster like Myst 1.

>>6728869
I've never looked up a guide, and I still haven't finished Myst. Some day.

>>6730015
It's impossible to trust that someone will play it fair these days, I swear the only reason Let's Players get through Riven is because they look up solutions between episodes so they don't look like dumbasses to their audience

>>6731153
realMyst had hints, but that's as far as I'd go.

Kinda related question.
Is there any other retro vidya with the same atmosphere and like simmilar art firrection as OG Myst/Riven?

>>6731728
Not really retro, but have you checked out the RHEM series? It's very clearly inspired by Myst/Riven, even named the second game completely different to the rest of the series.

>>6730015
I found Myst to be disappointingly easy, but I heard Riven is really difficult, so hopefully that's relatively true.

>>6723017
Fucking hell i loved this book as a kid.

>>6723017
I grew up with these books