/vr/ - Retro Games

>>666337
Also, I paid about $12 for it. I think I got a good deal.

>>666337

I just picked up Taito Legends 2 recently. Can't wait to play some Darius Gaiden and G-Darius.

I've just started getting into shmups. I'm in love with the Thunder Force series, this one in particular.

>>666342
>$12 for a game made in 1990
>this actually IS a good deal
gotta love the effect that the whole "retro" thing has had on prices for old games... sigh..

>>666357
>gotta love the effect that the whole "retro" thing has had on prices for old games... sigh..
What "retro" thing? The retro craze ended in the mid 2000s.

Don't tell me now that moot made a board, you actually think the world is experiencing some sort of retro renaissance.

>>666357
Game was also on sale for 25%, and I get an extra %10 off retro for my membership at the store.

>>666353
i have this game but I dont last more than a few minutes. I just cant seem to figure it out.

>>666387
What stage are you starting on? Try the water planet (up at the stage select screen) and going clockwise.

>>666397
ok I will try that.

I saw R-Type 1 and 2 for Playstation at a flea market one time, should I have gotten it?

>>666420

Yeah, R-Types for the Playstation is probably the best R-Type compilation, at least for the first two games. You should've picked it up.

Im playing Dodonpachi. Can only get to stage 5 currently.

Okay, I sort of love this game. The five direction lightning and the auto-target lightning on big enemies feels incredible.

However, after playing the arcade version, I just don't know if I can go back to the Genesis one. I mean, surely they could have managed a slightly prettier, harder, and more intense port than what we got, right?

>>666517
Is the PC Engine conversion any better?

>>666553
Oh man, I didn't even know there was one.

The Genesis version actually feels a lot like a PC Engine game, especially similar to Blazing Lazers. I know it was early Genesis but come on.

>>666364
have you even been to ebay or craigslist recently, anything that could be considered "retro" or "collectible" is marked up to ridiculous prices, if you have no clue what some one is talking about, don't respond

>>666380
god... I hope you are trolling...

>>666637
This has been going on for years and years, it is not a recent development. Nothing has changed recently other than older games increasing in value because they are becoming harder to find.

>>666517
that blue laser fucking sucks its the most casual weapon. I prefer to face my enemies and blow them the fuck away with the green weapon. Truxton is a really early mega drive game one of the first 25 games on the system. PC engine version is closer to the arcade but the music isnt as good. The genesis one was from the era when sega was buying the licenses to arcade games and releasing them on the megadrive(Forgotten Worlds, Ghouls N Ghosts). the pc engine one came out years after so its kind of expected to be a more accurate port.

>>666662
>lasers
>ever

>>666662
The PC Engine version looks pretty good, but the colors are a bit less accurate than the Genesis. I can see that some might prefer that kind of saturation and palette though.

But other than not having that big black bar on the side of the screen, I don't see how it's more accurate, especially with the inferior hardware.

>Have a huge shooter collection on Genesis
>never payed more than $9 for any title
>that feel

I'll list them off

Hellfire
Steel Empire
Thunder Force II
Thunder Force III
Lightening Force
Truxton
Gaiares
Elemental Master
Fire Shark
Grindstormer
Bio Hazard Battle
Trouble Shooter

Also I'll list my run & guns for good measure

Contra Hard Corps
Gunstar Heroes
El Viento
Midnight Resistance
Ranger X
Target Earth
Turrican
Mega Turrican

>>666687
I got a good shmup collection for Genesis too

Hellfire (I got the Moonrune edition CIB $18)
Fire Shark
Air Buster
Thunder Force 2
Thunder Force 3
Lightening Force
Truxton
Wings of Wor
Gaiares
Elemental Master
Forgotten Worlds
Phelios (moonrune edition but its in english)
MUSHA Aleste its a dirty korean pirate cart though but idc

>>666687
Lucky bastard.
I would say I hope to have that kind of collection one day, but at the rate of inflation I'll need to be making six figures.

>>666420
no because you suck at games and Rtype would have repeatedly raped you

>>666803
It helps that I work in a retro game store. Unfortunately everything is going up in price these days due to "GAMING CULTURE MUH CHILDHOOD" faggots ruining it for everyone.

Thankfully Genesis collecting is still rather cheap and easy to do due to most of those faggots overlooking Sega for Nintendo games.

>>666760
I have some pretty good turbo grafx ones too
Sidearms
Raiden
Dragon Spirit
Blazing Lazers
Galaga '90
R-Type
Ordyne

Only real shooter fans will recognize the middle one.

>>666337
>Power up weapons.
>Get hit once.
>May as well shut off the game.

I've never played it, but I've heard the PC Engine version is better.

>>666353 >>666387
I cleared it (TFIV) with one life.
>feeling like a boss
>friend then does the same on mania

>>666397
fwiw, the difficulty of the bosses increases if you have more weapons.

>>666870

You get a shield, bombs and an AI helper in the Genesis version of Hellfire. You can either waste all your bombs trying to keep yourself alive, or you could save them to use as a crutch during recovery. It's likely the easiest version of the game to play.

I like Gley Lancer, even if it's hard to tell what's going on sometimes.

is there a sega genesis shooter pack flying around the net somewhere ?

Just beat this gem. Music is amazing and its easy enough that I can actually beat it. The game does some really cool graphic effects, too.

Any of the dozens of horizontal sidescrollers where you get sent back half a level whenever you get hit once are way too hard for me.

>>667491
nevermind, I GOOGLEEEEDDDD

>http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/other-consoles/megadrive/0--smasheys-super-shmup-pack/

>>666860

Dimahoo, am I real shooter fan now?

>>666860
The 90s were so awesome.

>>667547
Great find. It works great on wii. Fire Shark is great.

so which shmups are you all working on mastering?

>>669475
DoDonPachi
I ain't getting to the secret boss anytime soon

>>669490
I didnt know there was a secret boss!

>>666687
>>666760

I think I got all my Megadrive/cd/Genesis shmups in one picture. But I feel like I still forgot one game...

Haven't cleared the second loop of CRS 68k Windows yet. After that I have to finally beat Donpachi, and Touhou 6 on Lunatic.

>>669550
that looks incredible!

this is great game mechanic, you go above or below the line to choose what the second half of the level is like

Has there ever been a translation released for Xevious Fardraut Saga?

>>669605
What game is this? Darius Gaiden?

I've been really slacking in picking up shmups. I recently picked up Thunder Force 2 and Truxton for the Genesis, and Life Force for the NES, but I know I've got a ways to go. I'll probly grab Ikaruga for the Gamecube next. Shmups are always more fun with a bro.

>>670229
yes

>>670235
> Shmups are always more fun with a bro.
I smiled profusely at this level of casual
enjoy yourself mate

Has anybody ever actually played Thunder Force 1? Is it any good at all?

Been playing the original Gradius (PCE ver.). Made it to Stage 4 for the first time.

"DAYUM" is all I have to say regarding the difficulty. Then again, I did have like, four options, and considering the whole rank system and all that...

>>669550
Chorensha would be a perfect 10/10 if not for one glaring flaw: No autofire, wtf?

>>670251
No, actually it's G-Darius.

Notice the different HUD.

>>669605

Fun fact most people aren't aware of: Darius Force also had mid level branching before G-Darius did, but only for Zones E & M. It wasn't telegraphed at all though, so it would feel like you're just going to crash yourself into rock.

>>666337
>>666342
>>666353
>>666687
>>666760
ITT: Good taste

In The Hunt, for Mame. I can play the first level for hours and hours.

Now i try Truxton for Genesis. Good game, but i hate it when they give you too much speed upgrade. What are you supposed to do with a fucking tornado when your path through missiles is precise?

>>670293
You can use a program like joy2key to get autofire if you're not playing on a real x68k.

>>670798
Yeah but won't that invalidate my runs in the eyes of hardcore players?

I mean, I want to be able to say I got a really high score, or 1cc'd it or whatever, without someone being able to say "but you cheated so it doesn't count."

>>669541
>MUSHA
>Gleylancer
Nice. How much did you pay for MUSHA?

>>672052
It depends on the game. Using autofire in Darius Gaiden for example will probably get you called a wimp because it does a lot more damage than the default autofire. Demo, tapping faster in CRS doesn't make you shoot faster so you'll be safe from the shmup bullies. Probably.

>>672184
>demo

I love R-Type so damn much, but it seems like no one else has even heard of it.

>>672424
>No one else has heard of R-Type!
I can't decide if you're trolling, fishing for an underage ban, or just utterly delusional...

>>672424
lolwat?

>>672480
>>672482
I know people have heard of R-Type. Hyperbole But every R-Type thread I try to make just stays dead.

>>672482
>>672480
Hes probably talking about people that arent fans of the genre. I havent met anyone who wasnt into shmups yet knew any of them either, other than Touhou or maybe something from Konami.

>>672184
>demo

>>672184
>demo

>>670276
Its shit m8, its overhead only like the levels in Thunderforce 2. I like actually those levels the problem is its on old japanese shit computer though.

>>672480
>>672496

Seriously, none of my friends/anyone I have ever talked to has heard of r-type, makes me real sad bro.

but srs bsns, this level, dear god this level all of my rage

>>673080
Oh god, is that the one where you have to do the level backwards after beating the boss? Cuz fuck that level.

>>673091
nah, there is no level like that in r-type 1

also, this game has ruined the arrow keys on a few keyboards of mine

pic related: RECCA

Holy shit, this game right here. I think I like it better than Blazing Lazers.

Are the rest of the Soldiers this good?

What shmup has the coolest ending?

>>672424
That force is begging to be changed into a basketball.

>>673120
I only like the time attack modes but they all have good ones. Final Soldier is my favorite.

Is there any like a top-down, free roaming shmup?

>>673213
There are some good top-down ones but I don't know a lot about free-roaming. Bosconian is like that.

>>673212
I guess Hellfire S where the MC overloads her ship's reactor?

Alternatively, and surprisingly? Recca.

>>670435
>>673213
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-XEINagmaU

>>673454
>Hellfire S

>>673213
syvalion too

>>673485
whoops i meant to say to >>670435
How do you make it through bullets when your ship moves like a slug? I wire myself directly into my genesis my thumb connects at the controller and I have no problem overclocking my brain to 7.67 MHz. Why don't you just not pick up the powerups though? Really all that speed is necessary, I always play on max speed after a bit with the game though its the biggest advantage you can have if you can control it.

Gradius 2 on PCE, I'm loving that CD music and multiple weapon configurations.

>>673213
Thunder Force 2 has some top-down free roaming segments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZEqWLPTg2Q

>>673213
Look Up Star Destroyer Bosconian and Zugya, two incredible games that you'll need a Sharp X68000 emulator for. There is also a Windows of Zugya that's pretty different.

Man, the Genesis version of Hellfire is the best. The increasing bonus system and the superior music after the first stage makes it better than the arcade version. As for the PC-Engine version, the remixed soundtrack is rubbish (not nearly as good add the Zero Wing one), the sound effects are just shit, many areas are significantly easier than in the other versions, and there is a respawn system. This is bad because the checkpoints in Hellfire are beautifully designed, being some of the fairest I've ever seen on a game. Unlike Gradius and R-Type, when you die you don't lose the functionality of your so, making the level design still approachable. And the fact that your bonus chain resets on death makes things more interesting.

i recently returned to shumps because of vector strike (lol, casual) and currently playing this on emulators since i never finished the thing when i was young.

so pic related is available for download on the PSN,

any good?

im playing the arcade version of this.. it's brutally unforgiving. I can't get past stage 2 yet

>>675812
I like it, kinda easy though.

>>673621
Yeah, i have to avoid the powerup, but the damn enemies stop right in front of it. So i unintentionally take the speed-up, it gets me to the unusual zone where i don't recognize the movements of my ship, and i die and rage few seconds after. I really can't control it with full speed, maybe because i use an anlog stick?

I fucking hate homing curvy lasers.

>>676118

Those are somewhat fun to me.

What I really hate are those lasers that go down the screen and then turn 90° towar you when they reach your height.

>>676126
Yeah they can be very intense, but I am currently having a hard time avoiding them in stage 3 in Eliminate Down because they just loop back behind you and you'd have two or three snaking all over the screen.

I am not good at Shoot 'em Up's, but they are fun to play.

>>666337
I've been playing Gokujyou Parodius on the SF a lot lately, are there any other SNES/Mega Drive shmups I should get that are similar in difficulty to Parodius?

"Shmup" was a word invented by Jews to make it easier to say "STG" in their lizard language, please refrain from using it. They're called STG's.

>>676183
super aleste/space megaforce if you want a vertical one

>>676154
>I am not good at Shoot 'em Up's, but they are fun to play.
I'm the same way, they kind of remind me of pinball in that regard

>>676191
Only a retard would create an acronym using a letter form the middle of the word.
ShooTing Game, really? Stop.

>>676191
keep your racism out of /vr/

>>676235
Keep your butthurt on r/gaming.

>>676227
Only a retard would create an acronym using a letter from the end of a word.

Shoot eM up, really? Stop.

>>676248
>>/v/
>>/pol/
>>/b/
>>/r9k/
or you could just go back to r/mensrights

>>676260
Fine. They're both stupid. Fuck whoever came up with either.

>>676263
Nice crossboard links. How many weeks have you been on 4chan?

>>676260
I think you mean
>'em
You are forgetting the apostrophe.

>>676269
STG is what the international community calls it. You can call them shmups all you want, but don't be surprised when a Japanese player doesn't understand your Hebrew.

Or, you know, "shooters" is fine too.

Oi vey, I need to get to Llomowitz's deli and pick up some hummus and matzoh balls for Schlumberg's bar mitzvah! Then I gotta get to the game store to get li'l Schlomo that schmup he's been naggin' for! That schlepp will plotz!

>>676367
We get it, you're a racist fuck.

this boss battle is epic and it's only the second one..

>bought a genesis primarily for shmups (well, shouldn't say primarily, but it was one of the big selling points for me)
>the retro game stores near me have not a single fucking shmup
>NOT A SINGLE
>SHMUP

Hoping for some scores at the flea market this weekend. Wish me luck!

>>677256
Just ebay them

>>676367
Does it really matter what people call them as long as they know what you're talking about? Just play them and have fun

I got this game on the Gauntlet once. Really fun TG-16 cute 'em up. I actually played through it once more after I finished it for the gauntlet. Gotta love the TG-16 for shooters.

>>677307
Magical Chase is a fun game. It is too bad that it is so rare as a card, jhaving been produced near the end of the life of the TG-16.

In my brain it is a side scrolling Tohou game starring Marisa

>>670276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0HfzY2IzCo Here, this is the first Thunder Force. The Sharp X1 games were not pretty.

Why did Thunder Force start bad, get a bit worse, get better, then get MUCH better, then get worse again?

Thunder Force 4 is the best one in my opinion.

What does /vr/ think of Hydorah?

It's a Gradius clone, but I think it's a bit easy.

R-Type and Gradius are hard because they're poorly designed.

Cave's games are hard because they're fast and hectic, and require good reflexes and quick thinking. R-Type and Gradius are hard because they suckerpunch you constantly.

>>678151
Hydorah is basically a version of Gradius that doesn't force you to memorize all its cheapshots. So yeah, it's pretty easy.

>>678516
>R-Type and Gradius are hard because they're poorly designed.

No, it sounds to me like you're just pretty stupid like most modern kiddies who want to get into the genre without putting in any effort.

>Cave's games are hard because they're fast and hectic

Case and point.

>>679308
>implying Cave games take no effort to play
I don't think you've actually played a Cave game.