/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6704626
Official translation. Recommend that you turn off running, as it messes with pace of the game and thus your enjoyment. That GBA fan translation is pozzed, stay away at least until they finish translating Mother 2 on it. Also, the girl's name in this game is Anna, not Ana, which is not an Anglo name unlike the girl and official merch from the time romanizes it as "Anna." Enjoy, anon.

>>6704626
>am not unfamiliar with NES JRPGs, so difficulty or tedium isn't an issue for me.
Good. A lot of people run away scared of Mother 1 due to not being exposed to 8bit rpgs. Mother is a good one.
I played the NES proto (eb zero, which afaik is the same nintendo used for the virtual console release aka eb beginnings). Had no problem with it.
I later played the GBA port (in japanese, so can't comment on the translation but I assume tomato's translation is good, his mother 3 one was great). GBA has the usual problems, cropped screen (not really a problem for this kind of game) and inferior sound (not bad imo but doesn't sound as good as the NES).
The pros of GBA are: fixed run button NPC speed (this isn't really that important, but makes the game look better while you run, on EB zero the NPCs speed gets affected too. And it has a new item that is very convenient for the last portion of the game.
All in all the QoL stuff added to GBA make for an interesting option, but sound is a big part of enjoying this game so I'd still vouch for EB zero on NES.
Ultimately can't go wrong with either though.

>>6704640
>the GBA fantranslation is pozzed
What do you mean??

>>6704626
The GBA versions are absolutely awful. Bad sound, bad color, bad controls, etc. Just play the NES proto of M1.

>>6704849
>absolutely bait

>>6704680
Tumblr-tier translation and hacks like the retarded and absolutely unnecessary "Easy Ring" put in it.

>>6705180
How?

holy shit the bait in this thread, I feel sorry for the OP.

This is coming from someone who played both - the GBA version is superior. The reason? Biggest one is that the encounter rate of the NES version is through the fucking roof, it's just non stop. The Easy Ring is an absolute necessity. You're going to cry and want to quit trying to get through the factory with the encounters so high. Imagine doing that without running, either. It's downright inhumane.

I never really paid attention to the music, I'm sure you could youtube it if you're curious. If you're going to play all the way through Mother 1, have some self-respect and play the GBA version, don't try the original it's such a slog. Remember this was designed for Japanese people, who want to dump as many hours into something as possible, Japs love their grindan so they love the original Final Fantasy games having endless encounters even though it's annoying as fuck and breaks up gameplay.

>>6705502
>redditt spacing
Cry more, faggot. OP said he has no issue with NES RPG encounter rates. Go replay EarthBound for the nth time.

>>6705502
just fucking buy a repel ring at the store you nonce

>>6705502
Sick bait bro

>>6705502
OP already said he's not a complete baby and is used to 8-bit RPGs.

Just get Earthbound Zero and call it good

>>6704652
How difficult is the Japanese in Mother?

I’m still a beginner, but I want to play through this one without the translation.

Is there a lot of kanji? I’m already having a lot of trouble with the 8 but type face for hiragana.

>>6707939
I think it's all in (both regular types of) kana, but know that the map is a regular item and is not mapped to Start and there is no running of any kind (which messes with the pace of the game, anyway).

>>6704640
>at least until they finish translating Mother 2 on it.
Which they've plainly stated isn't ever going to happen, so... yeah.

>>6708959
I figured, since they're gay. EarthBound gets a pass from them from their weeb-superiority-meter because the localized quirkiness is just so nostalgic! Black Lives Matter!

>>6708968
I didn't know that the copy of EBZero was that old, always thought that the GBA translation was older.

>>6709051
The EBZero ROM was dumped and released online in 1998

>>6709142
Yeah yeah, hence I find it odd that someone took on the job of translating it and implementing it again for a cropped GBA port...

>>6704626
So difficulty aside, which is the better translation?

>>6704626
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3623/

You can patch this to any rom, Earthbound (US Prototype) Earthbound Zero, or MOTHER (Japanese Famicom rom)

The GBA version has tinnier music so it isn't recommended. Also, if you hear about the 25th anniversary romhack, it completely messes with the art style and drastically alters the world and game in many parts, so it isn't recommended either.

The patch I just linked to is definitely ideal, it has a re-translation by Tomato (referred to as Mato in the readme for the patch) which he made for the MOTHER 1+2 retranslation patch he did. This is the best of both worlds, you get his retranslation and the original NES version of the game (original music, colors, and uncropped graphics.)

Tomato also translated MOTHER 3. It's definitely the ideal way to experience the game. Especially since you said you don't mind tedium or old JRPGs I would not recommend the "Easy version" it really messes with the pacing since it just doubles EXP and money and halves the encounter rate.

You can use Bread Crumbs, Teleporting, running (unlike most JRPGs it always has a 50% chance of working) 4th D-Slip (100% success rate run spell) and PSI Stones to mitigate the tedium of grinding. Random encounters are more or less optional outside of dungeons if you play smart.

>>6705247
What the fuck are you talking about? If I recall correctly, Tomato did the translation and he's a legitimate professional. How is it tumblr tier?

>>6710540
This. While Tomato's fanbase/followers may be tumblr-tier autists, Tomato himself is a professional.

>>6710352
What a nice post. Thanks, I was thinking of putting the uncensored graphics patch, but this is certainly good too. Thought the only way to play the GBA translation was through the horrible "better grafix" one.

>>6710352
>Also, if you hear about the 25th anniversary romhack, it completely messes with the art style and drastically alters the world and game in many parts, so it isn't recommended either.
So much this. I still can't believe when people post screenshots of that honestly thinking it looks better than the original.

Just find the Wii U Virtual Console rom for Earthbound Beginnings. Forget the GBA version and anything fan related.

>>6710835
So many hacks based on it, too, holy shit. Polishing on a turd and so on.

>>6705518
The guy you're quoting is a total faggot, but so are you for completely misunderstanding what reddit spacing is.

>>6705502
what a faggot lol

>>6705502
Grow up.

>>6704640
Truly awful take

>>6704626
Just be aware that unlike Earthbound the melogies aren't at the end of dungeons, instead they are just part of random unassuming objects.

Have fun inspecting everything.

What would Mother 3 be called in the west - EarthBound... ?

>>6711485
While I can't comment on the GBA translation by Tomato, I think he has a point about the pacing. Mother is not an overly long game (although it may seem so since the world map is very open ended and might be overwhelming if you don't check the map), and while I personally think the running function is a welcome addition, it probably does affect the pacing of the game a bit. I guess what I mean to say is, there's nothing inherently bad about not using/having the run button and it initially wasn't intended to have it. Notice how Mother 2 didn't have it. Mother 3 did, and improved on it.

>>6711508
Pro tip: There's a certain character in the game who sings a song that tells you where all the melodies are. But he only does so after a certain point in the game.

>>6711530
Nah what I meant was that by getting places faster you miss out on encounters leading to excess grinding in the late game

>>6711527
Earthbound 2: The Final days of the King Pig

>>6711540
Doesn't the encounter rate also increase when you run? Not sure if that was altered on GBA, but I'm pretty sure it did on the NES proto.

>>6711554
Doesn't, hence how it fucks with the pacing

>>6711563
You know fucking nothing.

>>6711626
I know that having to grind lategame because you got jewed out of a ton of battles sucks, just trying to warn the guy.

>>6711637
Any version of the game that hacks in 'running' is just doubling the speed of the game. NPCs will move at double speed, and you will get into battles twice as fast. This is the meaning of the "pacing."

>>6704626
Whatever version you end up playing, have a box of Kleenex at the ready and prepare to cry your eyes out.

>>6711649
Dial 8.

>>6711645
Wrong, player speed doubles, effectively halving encounter rate.

>>6711656
That is certainly not the case in any version I've played. Are you talking about the gay GBA easymodo remake?

>>6711663
Proto NES release

>>6711675
Then you're retarded. This has been proven. The added 'run' feature literally just doubles the speed of the game. That's why NPCs run when you do, and you get into battles twice as quickly.

>>6711680
So then why is there a romhack to fix the problem dipshit?

>>6711654
Being in touch with one’s emotions is the height of masculinity. Unfortunately all that søy you consume has made you into a soulless automaton.

>>6711698
Whoever wrote that fundamentally misunderstood what the problem was.

>>6711719
I've shed tears at games that were particularly moving to me, but "crying your eyes out" is pure sissy behavior. Get on HRT now.

>>6711721
or: you don't know what you're talking about

>>6711731
Fuck you, I'm on HRT and I'm not a big enough pussy to cry over this shit

Also, if you're the type to cry over games you should consider HRT yourself

>>6711731
t.

>>6711748
>I'm on HRT

>>6711748
t. emotionally stunted søybot

>>6711758
>>6711791
You know that the Mother series is all about transition in both the sexual and non-sexual dimensions right?

>>6711913
No, that's your mentally ill headcanon. It's just a story about psychic children fighting aliens.

>>6711719
When can we expect the dimensional merge CPU Blue Heart?

>>6711948
Dig a little deeper around the subtext surrounding the duality between magicant and the "real world"

>>6711527
Earthbound Ending

>>6709293
Tumblr is autistic, what else is new?

>>6711485
Sorry you played them out of order and are now salty towards anyone who isn't as retarded as you.

>>6711563
Yes it does.

>>6711751
>>6711791
>n-no u

>>6711563
It hurts the pacing because the game wasn't designed for you to collide into everything and get into random battles faster than any NES RPG, not because you're getting into LESS battles. The run button is literally a frameskip function, with the only difference being that you can't speed up the music.

>>6704626
i played the older official shelved version, i thought that was the one everyone did
apparently the japanese release didn't include the ending that's in that version? that's so fucking retarded and i would be genuinely pissed off if that's the case, the american writers deserve more credit for including it since it's probably the first real emotional moment in the mother series desu and it wasn't even written by the original jap team

>>6711960
>everything is symbolic of MUH DIK
Freud was a mistake.

I first played it all the way through with the Mother 1+2 port and pretty much had a good time. Pixel movement instead of grid movement made it feel much smoother then the Famicom original and the Easy Ring made the game way less grindy which was appricated, though I don't like how it gives defense too (enemies barely damage you for like half the game.)
There's another version which is just the Earthbound Zero ROM with additional tweaks that are similar to what the Easy Ring does but it doesn't give you stupid amounts of defense which I thought made the game feel better. There's also the 25th Anniversary Edition which completely changes the art style and adds it's own small gameplay tweaks but I think the new art isn't as charming.

>>6713143
I was so surprised to learn that the original JP release of Mother didn't have the epilogue.

>>6713119
t.

>>6704640
>running bad
Dude, fuck you. That was an outright improvement and they wouldn't have added it if they weren't acknowledging how fucked slow traversal + random battles were. It improves Mother 2 as well.

>>6713834
>irrationally bringing trump into the argument
Enjoy eating dirt, twice.

OP if you don't care about tedium then you should just play the original version of Mother on the NES.
Though personally I think the best way to play it is with EBB Uncut. Uncensors everything and uses Tomato's translation from the Mother 1+2 port.

>>6713902
Shame it fucks with the encounter rate

>>6713126
> HURR IT'S JUST FRAMESKIP
> I CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY THE MUSIC DOESN'T SPEED UP THOUGH

Guess they just magically underclock the sound hardware? How are you people this stupid? The run function DOES NOT speed up the whole game.

>Playing 25th Anniversary
>Has a feature where Lloyd/Ana/Teddy are pretty much the same level as you when they join
>Ana ends up getting Super Healing after I barely got her
God, this version really is too easy.

>>6714961
Seriously don't you get annoyed by the graphics alone? There trees...

>>6714961
>>6714973
Not him but the graphics are from from the biggest issue. I was like Level 9 when I got Lloyd, who ended up being something like Level 12. This, plus the less encounters and shit meant that I was basically starving for money the entire game. Everybody can get fully equipped before Youngtown in the original game, but in this version I ended up having to grind Mt Itoi with Eve for 30 minutes just to get all the equipment.

>>6704626
This version: https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3623/
Removes all censorship from the game and uses Tomato's translation.

>>6715268
See? Running means less encounters.

>>6714304
The battles occur more frequently while running, you fucking moron. Another thing that speeds up is NPC movement. This isn't even my issue with using running.

>>6715598
You have to speed up the NPCs as well otherwise they'll get in the way, negating the whole point of adding a run feature.

>>6715598
Dude, just fuck off with this already, why would there exist a patch for fixing the issue if the issue didn't exist?

Big brain moment here guys.

Within a week I'll test the fucking encounter rate with a cronometer in the first section of the game so you'll stop bitching at each other.

>>6715694
Make sure to install the patch first, otherwise you'll wind up with your levels lopsided

>>6715301
what was censored in the game?

>>6715708
Usual stuff: religion and alcohol references and a headline referring to a then recent teenage suicide in Japan

>>6707939
isn't half of the game's charm the humor? I imagine humor would be difficult to process if you're not at least decent in jap

>>6715694
>>6715598
>>6713126
>>6711554
You're getting trolled, that guy is fucking with you. The hack he posted here >>6711698 doesn't even exist. https://www.romhacking.net/?page=hacks&game=918

>>6715753
You're doing gods work detective

>>6713752
Wouldn't it have to have it?

>>6704626
For those who mentioned the sound, if I were to download the mother 1 NES rom onto a flash cart and play it from a GBA, would the sound still be as bad?

>>6715964
Which flash cart? Does it contain the extended MMC5 mapper? If so it should add in the missing FM channels.

>>6715970
The omega EZ flash cart?

>>6715940
It doesn't. After the final fight, the ship flies away and then the credits roll and that's literally all that happens. It's very abrupt compared to the english version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToZau2NULn0

>>6715975
You're in for a subpar sonic experience.

>>6716000
What flash carts contain an MMC5 mapper?

>>6715964
Wouldn't the image be cropped or the screen not have sufficient pixels to render the NES appropiately anyhow?

>>6704626
Original Jap version with the modernizing hack.

>>6711649
Are you mentally ill it’s not that poignant

>>6716101
Who hurt you?

>>6716101
While "mentally ill" may be going a bit far, I do somewhat agree. The "no crying until the end" tagline seemed a little extreme for this game to me. It was touching, sure, but nothing out of the ordinary. Mother 2 was more touching to me, but for different reasons. Mother 3 went a bit further and is the only video game to ever make me cry. But it was like a single manly tear, like a native american watching the white man pollute nature, rather than bawling my eyes out like a baby like some people claim to have experienced.

>>6716350
"No crying till the end" probably worked better in 1989 for the Japanese, but hell the only kinda poignant bit was the epilogue that NoA added for Earth Bound and I guess Ninten and Ana's impromptu romantic waltz in the cabin. But overall that's a hell of a good tagline that continues being used to this day.

>>6704640
>turn off running, as it messes with pace of the game

The GBA port is IMO the best way to play Mother these days, just because how much quicker pretty much everything is. Game feels so satisfyingly snappy to play via it.
Though the one thing that really holds it back is the fucking scuffed music. It's so tinny and not as pleasing compared to the original NES music.

>>6716764
Yeah? Why shouldn’t I play the NES version then?

It's good if you like a more tedious version of Dragon Quest but it has a modern setting and has that official Nintendo seal of quality so people will tell you it's good.

>>6716765
Clunkier to control and a lot slower, but the music is in it's full glory. Mother had such a good soundtrack, though I really wished that Bein' Friends didn't take over as the main overworld theme over Pollyanna.

>>6716770
Is there a patch for it to use the nes sounds in a gba emulator?

>>6716771
Unfortunately no. If that was the case then 100% the GBA port would be the way to play.

>>6716778
Gotta be honest, music is a big deal for me when I’m playing games, are the controls really that clunky? Am I going to regret playing it that way?

>>6716781
GBA port has pixel based movement while the NES had grid based.
You'll feel the difference between them if you compare yourself but honestly for your first time just play the NES version to get the original experience.

>>6708959
Not the case https://github.com/jeffman/Mother2GbaTranslation

>having this much of a trouble trying to play a game
Just play the original "Earth Bound Zero" prototype that leaked ages ago and that is the one most people played. It's an official NoA translation and the game was pretty much finished, in fact more finished than the original Famicom title since it includes an actual ending scene (which was later included on the GBA port, in fact, GBA Mother 1 is basically the NoA EB Zero in terms of censorship, map layour and also having the full ending).
The censorship isn't that big of a deal imo, just crosses and some blood in some enemies. Oh and cigarettes. The translation work is not as good as Earthbound and I'm sure Tomato's translation is better, in that case I would understand people preferring Tomato's, but honestly the original one was fine, got the work done, and IMO it's still interesting to play through a game that was almost released officially. If the game came out officially, likely the dialogues would be 99% the same.
Avoid Easy Ring and other game-breaking fuckery, you don't need that. If you like to fuck around with romhacks and the like, that's fine but I think for playing a game like this for the first time, getting the original experience is the way to go, don't taint your experience with hacks that remove the original graphics or fuck up the pacing.

>>6717026
there's no good reason to play the censored version when you can avoid it.

>>6717329
Well, the japanese dev did tacitly acknowledge it as "the definitive version" by putting it on the GBA compilation. However, as with many other things, I believe this is probably out of using the last update on the game and not bothering to change stuff, and not a matter of "vision".

>>6717026
> don't taint your experience with hacks that remove the original graphics or fuck up the pacing.
Hear that? No run hack.

>>6717394
>Hear that?
No I don’t, it’s text you maniac

>>6717401
Maybe they're using text to speech or are blind.

>>6717445
He’d have to be blind to make a blunder like that! Am I right everybody?

>>6717026
Earthbound Beginnings Uncut is the definitive version IMO. The base Earth Bound ROM with the censoring removed plus Tomato's translation from 1+2.
Also on the 1+2 translation, I'm surprised that they've decided to also translate the Mother 2 part. That port is legit garbage compared to the original.

>>6717454
Ho ho ho.

>>6715998
I suspect this was intentional on Itoi's part as his way of screwing with people. Nintendo wouldn't have that, though, so he had to add an ending to the US version on their demand (which ended up being for nothing since that version didn't get released).

>>6717557
>All those Japanese that thought Teddy died at the end for years

>>6716090
The GBA is a 32 bit system. Why wouldn't it have enough pixels? Is it about screen size?

So really then the question is at this point is what is more important? Quality of life changes for gameplay? An official, Nintendo made translation, but a poor one at that? Or a better translation, but with lots of fan made liberties and apparently a missing ending? Decisions decisions...

>>6717717
The resolution of a GBA is lower than all the desktop consoles before it (256x240 vs 240x160), which makes it unfit for most emulation of those, even if it has the horsepower to pull it off (hence a lot of slightly cropped ports came up on it).

>>6717756
>apparently a missing ending?
None of the versions have a missing ending except the original japanese one.

>>6717890
Please mistake me if I'm mistaken, but doesn't the lost zero release have additional ending material? Or is that something else?

>>6718004
The GBA port is done on the basis of the american prototype. The translation of it, thus (and its patch onto the NES version), includes the ending.

>>6718080
Oh, what about Earthbound Beginnings Uncut?

>>6718103
Earthbound Beginnings Uncut is a patch for the NES Zero/Beginnings version (they're the same) that removes the censorship added to the original american prototype (sprite restore) and substitutes the prototype translation with the fanmade GBA one.

>>6718110
Oh OK got ya.

>>6717613
And it seemed like he tried to do the same thing again with Mother 3's "everybody dies" ending, but Nintendo again forced him to not make it a downer and so it got a hastily-added part where everybody's confirmed to have survived.

>>6717329
*one reddjit gold has been deposited into your account*

>>6718538
You should avoid censorship literally on principle alone.

>>6717342
I think Itoi bullshitted that he removed the cig from the crow because he quit smoking himself. I'm sure that's not why the cig wasn't put back, but I think Itoi really quit smoking, so good for him.

>>6718832
nah, was nintendy censors

>>6710856
>>6710856
>>6710856
>>6710856

This, why do anything else?

>>6720896
Because the fan translations are closer to the actual intentions of the original and fix a host of bugs Nintendy couldn't be bothered to?

>>6720896
Wasn't a fan of the censoring and name changes. But with Earthbound Beginnings Uncut it's a non-issue.

>>6718813
Nothing that took away from the game was censored, unlike the censoring that goes on today. You would have no problem with the game if the localization changes in it were in the original Japanese version. Both are fine and can be played without loss of enjoyment. You're just weeb attention whoring like >>6720912 >>6720923 are.

>>6720945
Alright sweety.

>>6720945
*from the game's theme(s)
I take back the (You) I gave to you >>6720923 here >>6720945, as you're not an autist and just are stating your preference. My bad, bro.

>>6720945
> Hurr I'd rather play the game censored with bugs that some overworked Jap couldn't be bothered to fix

>>6720947
*sweaty (sorry, typo)

>>6720957
Dial 8.

>>6720960
Die early, troon

>>6721012
Whatever you say, changstein.

I've never liked the numerous amounts of easy mode hacks for Mother. Makes the game a literal breeze that you can beat in an afternoon it just completely ruins the pacing, be it 2x EXP or hell 4x EXP.

>>6721128
That's why you should never use the run hack.

>>6722840
Lol you bump such odd threads when you’re upset

It's rlly not good

>>6722849
If you say so, it must be a great game.

>>6722873
You should listen, Mother is hyper overrated. Very poorly designed RPG, even for it's time. Has aged like milk too.

>>6704626
Why not the NES version with the fan translation? It looks quite nice and you'll notice how much Mother influenced Pokemon more.

>>6724067
Another vote for Mother/Earthbound Zero Uncut. The grind really isn't even that bad and with all the encounters you'll always have enough money to buy shit.

>>6724067
Oh, and I meant the official translation, which I'm 80% sure is the one I used. It's been many years since I played it so it's really hard to remember. The game wasn't nearly as difficult as reputation has it, though that final climb up Mt. Itoi is no cake walk. I think this is the version I played, which reviewers describe as the official translation with uncensoring:
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/3623/
The patch I used definitely had crows with cigars, but I definitely didn't use any EasyRing and I don't think I ever had one. I personally would rather have a dry translation that lacks a bit of nuance than one where the translator adds things for flavor and changes the characters' personalities.

>>6704626
>>6724103
Shit, on second glance, I can't find a version that has the same gameplay as Mother but an english translation. Now I'm having deja vu since I had this exact same problem when I was deciding which to play years ago. Can't remember what I decided on, but I would personally grab a hack with original Mother game mechanics and whatever translation had the least obvious fuckery, if such a hack were available. I really liked the NES version and see no reason to play the GBA version, for what it's worth.

>>6724117
Really the main things the GBA version has going for it is the pixel based movement over grid based NES movement and battles and menus being incredibly quick to get through. The music was ported quite badly though which is a total sin.
Also that version is just base NES Mother with Tomato's closer-to-Japanese translation from the GBA port put on it and the censoring from the US prototype removed.

>>6721128
Earthbound fans are casual idiots who just want to read a quirky book. Not play a game

>>6724891
Dunno what they're on about. I find the small bouts of grinding kinda hypnotizing after a while.
I've just made it to the swamp and the pacing has felt pretty good tbqh.

Who gives a shit about the Earthbound Beginnings censorship, just look up the changes if youre curious but its nothing worth playing a frankensteined version of the game for

>>6725249
I have no idea why you would think a censorship patch is a frankenstein.

>>6725249
This

>>6724598
>The music was ported quite badly though which is a total sin.
If that's the case, no one should even consider the GBA port. I was sucked in from the title screen by the music, and it maintained its quality the whole way through. I'm not sure which version I played years ago but now that it's no longer 4AM and I've had enough rest to read carefully, I might just play the patch I linked since it's definitely the one I'd choose nowadays and I really need to play it if for no other reason than to hear all that sweet music in context again:
https://youtu.be/0qKF2y3I9Pc?list=PLz5gUls4mkX8Fo2pdrFKPw3OlE_179Gbo

>>6725249
The changes are rather extensive, and if I ever become proficient at Japanese I'm definitely playing my CIB famicom Mother cart so I have a baseline for comparison.

So what is the definitive way to play it in its original language? Is the added ending worth the audio downgrade?

>>6725256
He's referring to using the american nes text in the japanese gba game with uncensored japanese graphics.

>>6725667
There's no audio downgrade in either the official NES version or fanpatch "Uncut" version, anon.

>>6725747
None of which are in the original language.

>>6725676
There's no such thing as far as I'm aware. There's no uncensor patch of the GBA game, definitely no patch of the american prototype translation to the GBA... Dunno why you posted that.

>>6725747
Are you unfamiliar with the Famicom specific sound channels?

>>6715998
>>6717557
seems out of his nature, doesn't it?
either way i'd be fucking pissed if i played it back then and there was the abrupt jap ending, i'd seethe. mother 1's american ending is one of the best ending's in a video game imo, i don't think the american team gets enough credit for adding it in. i'm still really shocked how well of a job they did with it

>>6725291
It's funny to think how much Earthbound Zero was actually a QoL feature hack for Mother in some ways while also adding an actual ending.

>>6725667
The music downgrade really lets down the Mother GBA port, though it's the only Japanese version that includes the changes from the US prototype like not having the map as an item/the run button and such plus the ending. Other then that it's the original Famicom release without said changes.