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You can stop with these now. There’s no more new interesting information to be found.

>>6696661
https://boards.4channel.org/vr/thread/6681813#top
wrong previous thread.

>>6696670
>>6693848
Get fucked

Who care about beta testing...

Still waiting for mother 64....

So what's up with the bs zelda stuff? what's interesting about it? I'm unfamiliar with the game.

>>6696756
They found out the OOT was originally going to be for the snes until itoi got fired

>>6696759
Whoa, I'm massively out if the loop

>>6696756
I'm interested in this as well. It seems like there was gonna be something to it that really did get slid along.

>>6696759
Itoi? No one by that name is credited

>>6696750
Same... and Jungle Taitei...

>>6696802
LION KING???

>>6696681
i'll put an actual 4chin link for the archives my dude
PREVIOUS THREAD >>6681813

>>6696805
"Jungle Emperor", also known as Kimba the white lion.
But yes you could say it inspired The Lion King.

>>6696816
Is the story the same? What's Jungle Emperor about?

>>6696825
Kinda, it's about a young lion who is left alone after his father, the jungle emperor, is killed.
The difference is that there's humans in it (his father is killed by hunters).
Then at some point Kimba actually befriends other humans (and somehow, he can talk with them), and even travels around the world. It may sound wacky but it works.
It's pretty nice, I recommend checking the manga. In fact I recommend checking all of Osamu Tezuka's works.

What is this about BS Zelda being related to OoT? Is that where that "Deku Tree" graphic came from?

Does anyone give a half fuck anymore? Everything of note has been parsed. And any new trickle downs of contents and mods can be discussed in their own thread.

>>6696709
As I said, no new interesting information.

>>6696841
>Everything of note has been parsed
It is really? I thought hackers are still digging out stuff, like >>6696709

>>6696841
Did anyone give half a fuck about you or you opinions ever?

What's the story behind that Super FX Yoshi?
I saw that somebody had it running in Star Fox.

>>6696841
it's almost like you can hide the thread or something

>>6696858
Probably just Nintendo R&D experimenting with creating 3D models and whether they'd be good enough to represent their characters. Looking at the Yoshi and Link models, I'd presumed they concluded: No.

>>6696847
>I don't care about this particular thing, therefore, nobody else should
OK anon, have a great day!

Why are you retards replying to bait? Stop being retards and let them samefag.

>>6696858
I believe an employee was just making things in it for fun to test. Might've been the main modeler practicing and just archiving the results incase they wanted to use them for something.

>>6696871
>>6696907
I ask because apparently Argonaut originally pitched Croc to Ninty as a Yoshi platformer/racing game, and I wonder if that model is at all related to its early development.

>>6696825

If you don't mind spoilers you can learn a surprising amount of information about Kimba here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5B1mIfQuo4

Summary: It's some goofy Japanese franchise for kids, it didn't exactly inspire The Lion King, and the images concerning it posted in this thread are misleading.

>>6696858
https://twitter.com/vl_tone/status/1291782647144906762
Should explain it

>>6696913
Has someone asked Dylan on Twitter about it? It could be from that, but the fact there is a Link model as well suggests the Yoshi model is unrelated to Argonaut.

>>6696858
https://twitter.com/vl_tone/status/1291782647144906762
Should explain it

I figured it out! I just got the prerelease Mario jump back into the game.

https://youtu.be/Az_VmyQjTRo

>>6696927
Just ends up being kind of scary seeing Yoshi like that.

>>6696661
I know this is a fucking fag thing to say, but is there a discord or whatever for these leaks? I want to help out with this stuff. Noticed alot of shit gets buried and isn't easily accessible, I write for a living so I can get shit written down in a clear and organised manner. I have some HTML experience too. However my efforts to do anything with the files have been a massive fucking fail so want to help someone who isn't completely retarded. If anyone needs or wants the help let me know

>>6696934
Nice work! Though isn't that just the jump Yoshi gives you? Also Mario's looking a bit green there, and I think the head's shading needs to be changed from flat.

>>6696934

Man that's a big jump. It's almost like having F.L.U.D.D. in Super Mario 64.

>>6696897
>beating a dead horse
>thinking a slightly modified animation of something we’ve already seen is interesting
You too.

>>6696934
What the fuck up is with Mario's voice?

>>6696963
again, just hide the thread you stupid faggot

>>6696945
Yoshi's jump is just the regular triple jump but with sparkles and a bounce at the end

>>6696963
>>beating a dead horse
You mean yourself?
Anyway, I'm only mostly a lurker in these threads, but it's interesting to see there's some schizo that gets badly triggered by them. In that case I will stop by and comment more often, just to make you seethe.

>>6696970
Ah, thanks for reminding me. I wonder if they changed it because it made the game to easy or something.

>>6696964
At the time Nintendo didn't had an official voice for Mario so for testing porpouses they used Mel Blanc (Famous for voicing Bugs Bunny and Tom and Jerry characters, he was dead at the time) and Michael Jackson? sound effects for Beta Mario before Charles Martinez was chosen to play Mario and become his official voice

>>6696964
Before Charles Martinet recorded Mario's voice they used stock sounds from the Warner Bros. Sound Library and one other sound library.

>>6697003
I believe that they are actually stock sound effects.

>>6697003
>>6697008
Interesting. Thanks for the responses.

>>6696968
Or you could stop posting. Or fuck off to >>>/vg/

>>6696759
This has been common knowledge for years.

>>6696934
That jump still exists in the game if you jump on top of those flower enemies.

>>6697008
The intial jumping sounds like they came from his Jerry recordings while Tom when burning

>>6697042
Yep, and Fly Guys.

>>6696945
I'm trying to change the head shading, but I'm really not sure how to do it.

>>6697003
Charles has been the voice of Mario since before 64, like the other anon said the probably just hadn't got him in to record the lines so used stock sounds.

>6697030
Ah I see I know all I need to know about you now.
>>6696968
Yeah just ignore the /v/ fags they'll get bored and go back soon enough

>>6697064
Martinez first game as Mario was 1995 Mario's Game Gallery, but the actual first time he voiced him was as the infamous 3D Mario head in 1990 so yeah they used Warner Bros. sounds for testing before Martinez recordings

Earthbound 64 when?

>>6697147
Never ever. I accidently deleted it off of nintendo's servers for good when trying to get stuff to leak so its lost forever please stop asking

>>6697147
I am earthbound 64

i'm going to delete myself now because you and only you asked. you are the straw that broke the camels back

>>6697095
>Martinez

>>6697198
Oops, I mean Matinee.

>>6697212
Marmalade?

i MIGHT have figured out how to smoothen the beta mario head? I'll have to test it, then the ROM will be shared here

>>6697216
No, Marmaduke.

>>6697224
charlie margarita, voice of super merio

>>6696670
all information found is interesting to me.

>>6697219
Awesome.

>>6697234
Charmander Marine Biology.

>>6695728
Workin' on the SimCity building.
Overlaid some SC2000 sprites on top just for fun. They definitely don't match up size-wise, but the isometric perspective used is exactly the same (2x1). Might be the same designer(s) behind them even if this wasn't planned for 2000.

>>6696934
Hoot hoot.

>>6697234
Charlemagne?

>>6697253
I really doubt the Flats were for a real game. Toad smoking and Beach sleeping with Bowser? c'mon now.

>>6697261
I don't think it's for a real game but can confirm it's got SOUL

>>6697258
Chartered accountant

>>6696661
The Star Fox pastebin is dead.

>>6696661
Finding Drive hasn't been updated in about a week

>>6697253
Are there any smaller buildings equivalent to the ones with the mario sprites?
Maybe the game was going to have bigger sprites for when the camera is closer and they decided to take it out because it took too much space or whatever.

>>6697285
I did find a backup here though.
https://web.archive.org/web/20200729234825/https://pastebin.com/7mawb4FN

>>6696661
still missing kapp's repo drive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Qb9FEWnDNmDlwYfAKwO7V_U0tJ8Ko7l-?usp=sharing

and the newish fact-checking doc:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J1hyCj5NQqTysMd6U7UmXBm8NvlqMDXj6fX8oysB1WA/edit?usp=sharing

>>6697030
make me stop posting nigger

>>6697328

enjoy
https://anonfiles()com/D9f8q1L3o0/Mario_64_Prerelease_Asset_Insertion_zip

>>6696670
From what I understand people haven’t even begun to look into the nes betas we got

>>6697261
Where are the sprites even from? No one ever gives a file path.

Someone compiled the N64 roms for Dr Mario 64, both PAL and Japan localizations. Game was unreleased there.
Did any of that ever leak or get replicated?

Do the leaks include more Mario Kart 64's renders? The instruction booklet have some nice renders, especially the tracks ones, some of them are pretty detailed, I 'd love to see them in high quality just like the Ocarina of Time items.

>>6696934
>>6697042
>>6697052
Man this would have been terrible in the final game, what a momentum killer. Good thing it was just relegated to certain enemies instead.

>>6697253
The port of 2000 wasn't made with Nintendo's assistance though.

>>6697261
>Beach
Kojima? Is that you?
(Seriously though, yeah, I agree)

>>6697362
For this you are henceforth /vr/ royalty. You have my gratitude, sire.

>>6697326
I can’t believe the Dream Shrine enemy used to look even more like Kirby. I wonder why changed it.

>>6697176
Based

messing around with SCad, overwrote all of the .col files with the same file and got this shadow version. Doesn't seem like the .col files have any effect on backgrounds. Does anyone know how that works?

adding a couple Zelda items I didn't see in the booru.

>>6697571
just noticed that's a jpg, how unfortunate. at least >>6697574 is png.

>>6697567
Have you tried looking through the code?

>>6697574
Why is it 10k by 10k? The images themselves are like 600x600 I think.

>>6697567
How do you get anything to open in SCad? Everything I try to open comes up blank. I tried using directories without special characters but it didn't change anything.

>>6697375
Supposedly
NEWS/テープリストア/NEWS_09/home/nogami/renshu/mode7.cgx

today I learned zoomers can't tell the difference between a tileset and a sprite sheet

>>6697628
neat dude.
today i learned that fags gotta comment on eveything. like just look at me

>>6697585
idk, but look at how each arrow has different fletching. that is remarkable attention to detail.

>>6697649
It's the little details. The Kokiri Shield has little red paint stains.

>>6697659
very nice. it's detail that sets apart real craftsmanship. the arrow fletchings are not just different, but subtly different.

>>6697659
Those are just weird spec lighting. Absolutely sure they'd move if the camera moved for the render.

>>6697589
Not him but you need to open all 3 files - cgx, scr and col before youll see much of anything other than a blue screen, and in the "screen char" window associated with the scr file, click setup and check "use same character file."

>>6697674
I thought .scr was for maps. What does have to do with loading character tilesets (.cgx)?

>>6697682
You're right. If you wanted to view an SCR you'd need to load a CGX as well, but CGX files don't need an SCR to be viewed. They do need a COL though for the palette.

>>6693859

Tried these out and didn't work

>>6697682
Nothing, I figured you were trying to open scr because thats the situation where it can get a bit confusing when it opens as it just shows a blue window. CGX should load in a side window, especially if you have a palette col file also loaded. I dunno if maybe the cgx file is corrupt or the like as it should open normally with a col file

The fact more hasn't been uncovered and posted is a testament to how few people are combing this material. I've gone close to the deepest depths in at least one game and found things I have not seen anywhere on the internet yet, including here.

>>6697659
That looks more like an artifact from rendering the lighting. Doesn’t look purposely placed.

>>6697746
So post them.

>>6697673
>>6697780
This looks like stains IMO. I haven't seen this kind of thing in other items and make sense with the red symbol of the shield.

>>6696923
>It's some goofy Japanese franchise for kids
As most (if not all) of Tezuka's works, it's both goofy/comical, but also can be pretty dark and raw in certain occasions.
As for the comparisons, it's undeniable that the guys working on The Lion Kind were perfectly aware of Kimba. Kimba was popular with boomer kids in the 60s and early 70s, it's not too farfetched to think that many of the guys who worked in TLK had watched Kimba as kids and maybe wanted to pay some homages to it. It's not a 1:1 carbon copy (as TLK borrows a lot from Hamlet, plot-wise), but claiming TLK has not any influence from Kimba is Disney Lawyer-tier.

>>6697337
>NEWS/テープリストア/NEWS_04/home/sugiyama/fly/TEST-7C.SCR

pilotwings shit

Was there a gigaleak 3?

>>6698095
no

Preservationists fear losing tiny bits of their childhood that they never knew they had, but you will see everything again when you too sink into the dark as well. So fear not the dark my friends, and let the feast begin.

>>6698127
is this the start of something

>>6698072
> but claiming TLK has not any influence from Kimba is Disney Lawyer-tier.
sorry, but I'm not retarded enough to get my info from blogspam.
Kimba and TLK have little to nothing to do with each other

>>6697945
And I don't think because I actually work on these things. I know it's just an env map or spec of some kind.

so i may have slightly fucked up the placement of beta mario's head. i'll have to fix that and then i'll have a new download link up as soon as possible.

>>6698131
Again, I'm not saying it's a carbon 1:1 copy, but denying the influence is just insane.
Maybe you feel that I'm attacking TLK, but I'm not. There's nothing wrong with influences and homages. The problem is that Disney Lawyers didn't want to admit that there were Kimba influences, because Tezuka's family sued Disney about it.
If Walt had been alive, this wouldn't have been an issue since Walt and Osamu were friends.

>>6698136
How about you worry about the vertex normals because that shit is much more jarring. Do you have a fetish for sharp edges across the board or something?

>>6698130
Yeah. Shitposting.

>>6698142
I prefer to call it atmosphere posting.

>>6698139
None of tesuka's family thinks they have anything to do with each other. Please, do actual research and not browse buzzfeed.

>>6697147
>>6697176
Anon you killed Earthbound 64

>>6698146
Tezuka's son is literally the one in charge of his father's works. Or at least he definitely was at the time.
I don't get why you get so angry about any of this. I love The Lion King and I can clearly see the Kimba homages. It'd be just nice if the Disney guys who worked on it were allowed to confirm it, but they can't.

>>6698148
At the time of what? Where is your source that there was a lawsuit from Tezuka's estate?

>>6698148
I like the Lion King but it looks a bit more than homage to me, more like one of those video games that looks really hard like its trying to ape another. Like a Mario clone

>>6698164
There is little copying done from Kimba. It's a reddit-tier fake fact that's gone too far.

>>6698152
Welp, you got me. It seems I believed false rumours about the suing. I just looked up and it seems Tezuka productions didn't sue after all, weird.
As for Tezuka's son, Makoto, I guess I thought he was in charge of Tezuka's works because he was the one tasked by Nintendo to direct Jungle Taitei on N64 (and it was also the reason the game got cancelled, Makoto didn't feel experienced enough to do it).
I admit I was parroting bullshit, my bad anon.
Still, I think the homages and influences of Kimba in TLK are undeniable.
I can sort of see why you can be this defensive about it though, since all these years the argument is "OMG TLK is just a ripoff of Kimba!" and this isn't true either, but saying TLK has absolutely no influence from Kimba at all is also false. I guess the whole "TLK is a Kimba ripoff" is what led to false rumours like the Tezuka family suing Disney, that I believed to be true. So in that sense, I can see why some people like you may get defensive about this argument, you have a point definitely, and again I'm not saying TLK is a ripoff. But influences? Sure it has them. Again, Kimba wasn't some obscure anime, it was actually one of the very first japanese anime series that got popular in the west, along with Astro Boy. You can be the people who were working on TLK, all animators who loved animation and were in their 20s and 30s, definitely were familiar with Kimba.

>>6698172
I see Raffi, an evil uncle, fatherlion, Simba1.0. Did Kimba have Hamlet elements as well or was that what they merged with Kimba to make LK?

>>6698191
From what I remember from watching Kimba as a kid, no, it didn't have Hamlet elements. The guys who killed Kimba's dad were human hunters, not his uncle.
I agree with you though, you can clearly see Raffi in both, also come on, Kimba and Simba...
Still it's wrong to say it's a total ripoff, but an influence, it sure was.

>>6698187
But after all this time, no proof has come up that anything in TLK is inspired by Kimba. The only thing people have for this conspiracy is contextless images of african animals in both series.
The baboon is just a baboon, you know, a famous African animal. He's not a sage.
Evil uncle is not his uncle and is a minor character.
A father lion is barely a connection, and his fucking corpse pelt is a comedic object.
Kimba himself is nothing like Kimba, he's way more of an asshole imperialist.
TLK most certainly cribbed off Hamlet no doubt, but that was a unique thing, Kimba was just a slice of life show about some lion cub trying to run a jungle and be more like the humans

>>6698202
>come on, Kimba and Simba...
Yeah, Simba, the Swahili word for lion, clearly a ripoff.
Fucking retard

>>6698172
correct, the whole idea that Lion King ripped off Kimba is a meme at best. there was probably influence, but no plagiarism. the seemingly 1:1 correspondences are actually from the Kimba movie that came out AFTER Lion King, so if anything it's the other way around.

>>6698214
>there was probably influence, but no plagiarism
This is what I mean. The influence (homages) are there, but it's not a ripoff.
>>6698205
I disagree with you about the "coincidences". As I said, Kimba was very popular with kids in the 60s, and TLK animators all were kids during those times. I think the homages are real.

>>6698224
But there's no proof that there are ANY homages. Putting up a picture of an African hog from a random episode of a 100+ episode series and a main character African hog from TLK is proof that Africa has hogs and nothing more.

>>6697514
you asked this last thread and people ignored you, so probably not
.>>6698146
You're the guy who posted to /co/ last night saying Lion King came first ain't ya?

Tezuka was inspired by Disney to create animations for kids, so Disney being inspired by Tezuka isn't a crazy idea. The mouse doesn't own everything and when you look at how many fairy tales they've "reinvented" to make money it's easy to see they live to reference stuff.

>>6698234
I don't browse SJW boards, sorry.

>>6698230
Still unlikely that the Disney animators, who were kids during the 60s, never once during productions were "huh, Simba... a lion, this doesn't sound familiar at all". And you bet they weren't fluent in swahili, btu they sure knew about Kimba from watching it on TV after school in the 60s.
I get it, you're angry about all the parroting claiming it's a ripoff, and you're right about that, people exaggerated the homages and claimed it was a total ripoff, which is not true. But claiming that it's all "just a coincidence" seems also dishonest.

>>6698246
Damn, look at this dude plagarizing Kimba, shit sucks dude...

>>6698250
You're just as blind as the guys who think "OMG it's a total ripoff!", just the opposite.
There's a gray area. It's not a ripoff, but the influence and homages are there.
Again, the main argument I have is that Kimba was on TV in the 60s, and the Disney animators were kids during the 60s. There's little chance that guys who like animation working at Disney in the 90s weren't aware of Kimba at all and it was all just a coincidence.

>>6698172
I agree, fellow watcher of 10 hour long youtube video essays.

Speaking of all this lion king-kimba stuff, did any of the leak-related games secretly rip off others? I hear SM64 "ripped off" an early proto of Croc but it could be far less true than memers on youtube make it out to be. It is the head of the studio that made SF2 saying that though

>>6698132
>And I don't think
true

>>6698140
Actually, I fixed that. The new Mario model is MUCH smoother now.

>>6698263
it's a matter of proportionality. there's a difference between taking inspiration and making references, vs. cut & pasting someone's work. you can do the former while still retaining originality.

Here's a fixed .bps file of the prerelease reinsertion ROM. You just gotta patch a US Super Mario 64 ROM with Floating IPS or something.
New features: Mario's head is MUCH smoother, there's a restored jump sound, and the beta penguin eyes have been reinserted.
https://anonfiles()com/D013s6Leo8/You_Just_Lost_The_Game_bps

>>6698287
>there's a difference between taking inspiration and making references, vs. cut & pasting someone's work. you can do the former while still retaining originality.
Yes anon, that's what I'm saying. TLK was definitely not a ripoff of Kimba and I never said so ITT. I always referred to it as influence/homages.
This Lion King vs Kimba wars are stupid because on one side you have people claiming TLK is a ripoff, whereas on the other side you have people claiming TLK has ZERO influences from Kimba and that it's all just mere coincidence. Neither is true.

>>6696217
>The tech nowadays can replicate that easily. Learn how to do some basic materials and you can do that shit easily. Hell you can render that shit in realtime now (not practical to do so though)
A game aping that old SGI prerendered style but in real time would be fucking amazing

>>6698301
only the Sith deal in absolutes. a more nuanced understanding allows for grey areas and differences in degree.
we're on the same page: the Lion King was influenced by Kimba, but did not plagiarize it. this is only natural, since ultimately every work has its influences and sources.

Anyone know what NEWS_04\home\sugiyama\.CAD_SRD\CAD-0.cgx is supposed to be? The corresponding .col doesn't seem to help. Pic related.

>>6698315
>we're on the same page: the Lion King was influenced by Kimba, but did not plagiarize it. this is only natural, since ultimately every work has its influences and sources.
Glad we end up agreeing after all. I guess you thought I was one of those people who blindly bashed TLK as a ripoff but I did not. At one point you seemed unable to recognize the homages/influences, though.

>>6698325
you're mixing me up with another anon. I jumped into the convo with >>6698214 and >>6698287, the other posts weren't me.

>>6697003
>Charles Martinez
>Martinez
kek

>>6698331
Ah OK, yeahI thought it was weird he'd change so quickly.
You're more like me then, no absolutes.
I wasn't aware the Lion King vs Kimba wars were this heated, it seems some people really take it personal. To me, as someone who likes both, I find it pretty sweet that TLK has some homages to Kimba, but that doesn't mean I think TLK is a ripoff of it or anything, I can enjoy both for what they are.

>>6698086
Why would you point people toward a .scr file and not tell them which .cgx file to load? That's 20 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

>>6698343
indeed. as for the debate, it's one of many topics where ppl will pointlessly fight to the death, like the Deku Tree in the other thread.

>>6698321
Try changing the little drop box in the upper left from 2bit to 4bit. Also try changing the C0 to C1 (changes which half of the palette gets used I think).

>>6698132
Okay, I'm not an expert and don't want to disagree with you, but why does it happen only with this object? I checked other items and they don't have this effect. The effect seemed to try too look like a real shield... or it could be just coincidence, but for people like me, it looks like a stain (If we consider Kokiris as kids, they usually make a mess painting stuff). Just my 2 cents.

>>6698321
> The corresponding .col doesn't seem to help.

story of my time with these files

>>6698360
I just tried all the different bits just now, as well as switching between C0 and C1. Same ugly, indiscernible palette, unfortunately. You can tell it's supposed to be a character sprite of some kind, but there's not much detail there. Sort of reminds me of the Excitebike character for some reason.

>>6698234
>you asked this last thread and people ignored you, so probably not
Actually, an anon noticed me and thought I just bumped the thread (I didn't see the post count, BTW)). But yeah, you probably are right. Just wanted to confirm it.

>>6698380
Kinda looks like baseball stuff to me.

>>6698358
It's not the deku tree, though. There's 3 of the big trees. Are they all deku tree?

>>6697945
>>6698132
>>6698365
Although after checking the Deku Stick, I noticed a similar green stain close the leaf of the same color. I feel dumb right now lol But well, the more you know. Do the wooden textures used to have this kind of problem or what?

>>6698401
I'm pretty sure that's just color bleed from raytracing

>>6698398
first, that image is a mockup. second, let's not start that again.

>>6698398
*Faggot Tree. Deepest Lore.

>>6696750
Has there been a single thing leaked that isn't just EAD stuff? So far it just seems like nothing but Mario Zelda and Star Fox junk.

>>6698413
Agreed about not starting the argument again, but that map really is in the leak. I had thought it was just a mockup somebody did, but I was wrong.

>>6698425
well the beta map shows three trees, so there's some basis at least. still, the other two trees have glitchy leaves, so they may have been put together incorrectly.

>>6698421
I read there was some Castlevania stuff but I haven't seen a single leaked piece of that game.

Kirby and Hal Laboratories are second-parties, so...

>>6698401
Anon, I explained it. It's just what the way they had the materials setup. It's incredibly easy to replicate and isn't really proper but that doesn't matter for some icons that will be like 32x32 at the end of the day.

>>6698390
Oh yeah, I can see that. There's is some baseball stuff in the BB folder right next to it. Do you know if that game ever been identified?

>>6698401
Either GI or ray tracing. The way it reflects on that particular model could be the result of bump mapping or other things. It really doesn't matter though. It's totally not a texture detail. That is just a seamless they applied probably from stock.

>>6697945
all that aside, let's take a moment to admire how the symbol is not only painted, but also carved into the wood. dat detail

>>6698448
No clue. The only other baseball stuff I had heard about was a couple files actually named "baseball" in with the Super Mario World graphics.

>>6698435
If you mean the Castlevania IV proto, there's a thread here
>>6696981

>>6698469
Which folder is that? The baseball files I'm talking about are in NEWS_04\NEWS_04\home\sugiyama\BB

Did they find adult link?

Are there any nes stuff?

Who are you little knight dude in QUA-1.cgx, drawn on 4/25/95? What is your story?

>>6698492
I don't remember the full path right now, but I'm pretty sure the folder is called "z-mario-4".

>>6698534
Why would adult Link be in Majora's Mask?
>Are there any nes stuff?
There is, and surprisingly no one has yet fixed the headers on all the NES ROMS included in the leak to see what they are.

>>6698593
Because he was gonna be in as a mask function.

>>6698582
What game

>>6698592
Wow, would you look at that. Definitely some kind of baseball thing, but the file is much earlier than the one in sugiyama/BB, so I doubt they're related. It's interesting that this was found with the SMW assets. Considering fact that there are Chargin' Chucks who throw baseballs at you, I wonder if perhaps some kind of baseball mini game was planned at one point.

>>6698607
That's what I want to know. He's in NEWS_09\home\nogami\private.

>>6698604
You mean other than Oni Link?

>>6698642
Nogami worked on Super mario world 2 and BS Zelda no Densetsu.

>>6698648
Yes. There are several screenshots that show a mask that looks like Adult Link (with a distinctly different look to the Fierce Deity mask)

>>6698652
Interesting, but not particularly helpful. Knights exist in Zelda, but there wouldn't have been one in BS Zelda no Densetsu. And looking at his resume on Mobygames, I can't think of any other SNES era games this could be from.

>>6698676
Probably would had been some dead hero from the grayeyard.

>>6698413
>that image is a mockup
It's not.

>>6698676
i really like the way they did the gleam on the hearts, they shouldnt have dropped that. also feel like the fairy ocarina from saria wouldve been some kinda alternate story line or something like Saria has something to do with it.

>>6698687
Why would Adult Link be a dead hero in a game starring his young self?

HOW IS THAT THAT THERE ARE INTERNAL NINTENDO CO. LTD E-MAILS IN THIS LEAK AND NO ONE'S FIGURED OUT HOW TO READ THEM YET GODDAMMIT

>>6698702
It's obviously Link from the "Hero Dies" timeline

>>6698702
Same as why link song statue creates non link looking link.

>>6698708
Do you have any?

>>6698702
Terminian counterpart?

in SCad, how do you view a .scr without having its corresponding .cgx file placed in a window right beside it? All I want to do is get a full view of this SMW map, but as soon as I minimize the .cgx window everything disappears.

>>6698756
I think you have to have the right tileset file selected in the character map dropdown rather than a blank box. You may need to save the cgx to the native scad format sch to get it to appear in the dropdown

>>6698708
THERE ISN'T ANY TEXT TO READ FROM THEM, ALL WE HAVE ARE THE FILE ATTACHMENTS. MOST COMPANIES IN JAPAN BACK THEN COMMUNICATED MAINLY THROUGH FAX ANYWAY.

>>6698797
FUCK

>>6698786
You mean the dropdown on the .cgx window here? I saved the .cgx file as as a sch file and the map file as a ssc file, but nothing ever appears there.

>>6698709
Heroes never die

>>6698805
I think there should be a separate window called character map that pops up when the scr file window is in focus. If you don't have a translated version it may just be Japanese chars in the title bar

>>6698797
Fax is like smoke signals if you have email. What a weird cultural fixation

How do you think a dev feels if he works on a piece of Sprite art he is so proud of but eventually he can no longer view it because it only exists on a tape backup of his ancient computer?

>>6698582
He's cute

>>6698827
That did the trick--thanks a lot!

Did thy found tricforce dungeon or more rooms?

>>6698642
Looks like it may be private Sprite art for a game pitch or a side project

>>6698851
iQue didn't need random older games data so I am assuming this stuff is from multiple sources but I think the oot stuff is entirely iQue, so maybe that dungeon was too early to have been sent over there?

>>6698839
If he lets that happen I don't feel like he cares that much.

>>6698872
He wouldnt have much choice given the company owns all his work

>>6698853
>game pitch
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Nogami is one of the bigwigs in management now, but perhaps even in 1995 he had bigger aspirations.

>>6698435
So, there's still hope for some Rareware stuff?

I just want Conker 64, but if it was in there i'm sure it would have been found already.

>>6698871
Bunch of the older rooms are already were found.

>>6698321
it's a 2BPP image, I haven't found a proper palette but I can see that the bottom part has parts of baseball players sprites

>>6698676
I wish they kept it like that.
Fierce Deity always made me cringe.

>>6698951
why

>>6698951
>>6698676
This is pure speculation

The mask could have simply been a "normal Link mask" that was removed after devs decided it was redundant

been away for a few days. has anything else popped up with Zelda 64? Last I recall, someone found the model to what was assumed to be Castle Town. Someone else figured out the "Lost Woods" Photo was actually just outside the walls too, in the game's field.

>BUNBUN
>BOSS
>KILL YOU
Early versions of the Reznor boss fight background. They're called Bui Bui in Japan ("Bunbun" are what Boom-Booms are called), and there's definitely no BOSS and KILL YOU sign in the final.

>tfw still no source code for HG/SS
I just want to win Voltorb Flip every time, is that so much to ask?

>>6698967
Still like 10 or so early rooms not found

>>6698965
I don't recall they ever showing both masks at the same time.

>>6698991
THAT'S FUCKING METAL

>>6697003
>Charles Martinez
>>6697261
>Princess Beach
>>6698072
>The Lion Kind

we need to get all names incorrect for the rest of the thread now


>>6698756
if you just wanna see that map to know what it looks like its on trcf type "map-rom.cgx" in the find window https://tcrf.net/Prerelease:Super_Mario_World_(SNES)/Background_Graphics_and_Tilemaps


Also to make the adult lank mask even more confusing theres also THIS mask hidden in the final game
>A mask bearing the features of Child Link can be found within Skullkid's object. There are three copies, each rotated differently, for use in different scenarios. There are also three corresponding models of Majora's Mask, rotated in the same manner. This suggests that Skullkid originally wore this mask.
-TRCF

>>6699027
Why would they show off a mask that was supposed to be a 100% completion reward?

>>6699034
Because there's nothing indicating it was an adult link mask. See >>6698965

>>6698967
>has anything else popped up with Zelda 64?
Nothing really that interesting. There's one guy still digging through the files and posting some unused or slightly modified objects here and there.
We're to the point where all the easy-to-find stuff has been found and what's left is going to require a fuck ton of time and patience to sift through.

https://twitter.com/M_1_RLG/status/1292124653415272448

>>6698965
>>6699050
Trannys

Found this

>>6699063
isnt that just young link in hyrule castle gardens after ganon has taken over? surely that would be easy to fake/post him into?
sky's not usually that blue though is it either?

>>6698925
If it was found you'd know about it by now because it would be Luigi all over again

>>6698709
Wasnt that time line just something they bullshitted/ made up long after most of these games were made both to justify skyward swords existence and due to people constantly focusing on the idea of a timeline when it doesnt really matter for a series like zelda all that much

>>6696834
Pretty sure that one YMS video showed why that "lion king is very similar to kimba" stuff is kinda dumb no offense.

>>6699493
The timeline split was made not because of Skyward Swords which was made later as Oot prequel but to attach the first Legend of Zelda game where Ganon won which didn't happened in Oot where the only assumed ending was that Link was sent back in time to experience a childwood and Ganondorf was arrested, then they made another timeline where Adult Link defeated Ganon and was sealed by Zelda because of Wind Waker intro

>>6697585
I have looked at the code a little but I don't know much about how that works. There is a file called COLTABS.asm that seems to contain color tables but so far nothing seems to happen when I change values in it. Has some nice references to cornflakes and rice crispies though

>>6697589
Opening .col files worked without a hitch for me, haven't tried anything else yet. I'm about to try some other things so I'll see if I run into the same issues as you

>>6697589
Disregard what the other anon said about .scr files (unless you’re trying to view maps). I was having the same problem as you until I realized that unless you try a “valid” .col file (i.e. one with colors mapped to the right places) you won’t see anything at all (which is unlike how any other tile editor handles tiles, which is what threw me off initially). Just open a .col file through the same menu you used to open a .cgx file and keep trying till you find a palette that works on your tile set.

Possible either file or multiplayer level select for SF2

>>6699907

>>6699907
>multiplayer
>best of 3 in 3 different scenarios
Really nice.

>>6696931
look at him go!

>>6696670
Or is there...

Anon who posted shadow Star Fox earlier here. Figured out a little more about how these things work. The .col files i had edited were actually shaders, BLUE.COL, NIGHT.COL and RED.COL. The actual colors are stored in LIGHT.ASM and COLTAB.ASM. Here I made the "spoilers" on the Arwing transparent.

>>6698934
What's weird is the next file, CAD-1.cgx, is some StarFox 2 thing has nothing to do with baseball.

>>6698534
What I've always found about as interesting is that the ground shouldn't be so high in that part of clock town. We've already found early NCT so finding early SCT would be neat.

>>6699050
It looks like adult link and is greyed out in Clock Town but not in a boss room.

>>6699239
The sky shouldn't be blue, the gate shouldn't be there and that hill shouldn't be there either. The Young Link thing could be due to just tping to that map I guess.

>>6699516
>and Ganondorf was arrested
kek

>>6699034
Makes sense: in the original plan, SkullKid probably stole Link's appearence (his mask) at the same time when he turned Link into a Deku Scrub, then went around Termina in Link form causing troubel that Link would be blamed for throughout the game, after getting your form back from him the first time you confront him on top of the clock tower.

>>6700141
Can you extract the compressed fonts from prototype and final Star Fox 2?

Map file Im fairly certain that doesn't appear in any build of SF2 that we have access to

>>6700317
no idea, all the things I'm modifying can be opened with regular NotePad. I have no real knowledge of how most of this works, just having fun trying to change some colors

>>6699516
>but to attach the first Legend of Zelda game where Ganon won
This always seemed like such a stupid fucking asspull until I read some anon's take on it that made a lot of sense. In the timeline where Ganon won, it wasn't that he killed Link in some off-screen battle or whatever in some parallel universe. Link is constantly creating multiple timelines every time he travels backwards in time and alters the course of history. Perhaps most notably is gaining access to the Spirit Temple. Originally (we'll say in timeline A) Link has no way of completing the Temple, so he travels back in time to get the Silver Gauntlets and meet Nabooru. In doing so, he alters the course of history (leading to timeline B). Depending on your interpretation, Link either ceases to exist in timeline A when he goes back in time, or he continues to exist but has no way of completing the Spirit Temple. Either way, Ganon's reign continues and Link fails his quest.

Of course this is all irrelevant because the entire timeline thing is an asspull that didn't exist until Nintendo one day randomly decided it did. None of this was ever the original intention for any of the Zelda games up until Skyward Sword.

>>6700370
Breath of the wild just ignores it and combines it and make some thing myths.

>>6700382
The game seem to be to be at the end of the timelines, it does mention that Calamity Ganon was a Gerudo in the far past

>>6699034
I get the feeling typos increase as tiredness of posters increase

>>6698398
Let's correct this once and for all: this is not a mock up. It is in the scr sheets.

>>6698398
Talking Timbers.

>>6696847
imagine being this loser.

test

>>6698991
Mario is such a violent and inappropriate game by that image's standards!

>>6700212
noice
any more zelda finds?
anyone got hi res gossip stones?

>>6700543
Imagine if archeologists just stopped digging at a site because they assumed it was all just going to be more pot shards

>>6700681
ok?

>>6698398
always have been

thank you based leakchad

I know the pillars were reused in the Spirit Temple but the other room? It seems sorta familiar but I can't tell.

https://twitter.com/M_1_RLG/status/1290160810363248640

>>6700783
Seeing the rooms like that of reminds me of a dilapidated temple of time.

https://twitter.com/NintendoMetro/status/1292233648989667332

>>6700783
Spider house?

>>6700783
>>6700812
Also, the big room is missing a step at one of the ends.

>>6700823
Just be aware some of those are probably inaccurate due to them differing somewhat to the same files loaded in SCAD

>>6700359
this is from
\other\NEWSテープリストア\NEWS_04\home\arimoto\SF2
map4.scr.bak
btw

>>6700845
This step.

>>6700783
It's in the same style as the test dungeons they made that were throwbacks to Zelda 1 dungeons

>>6700858
That step is there, it's just obscured behind the pillars

>>6700858
It's just hidden by the bottom right pillar.
>>6700783

>>6700845
>black and white checkered floors
>two flights of stairs leading to the inner sanctum, beyond a door flanked by two pillars
>sword on a three-tiered pedestal
>hexagonal shape of pedestal subtly suggests the Tree of Life, walking up to the sword places Link on the path of Gimel

This game is a metaphor for occult initiation, Link literally crosses the Abyss when doing the Shadow Temple.

>>6700682

>>6700902
rad cult, how do i get in on that?

>>6696943
shame no one got back to you, try contacting the people behind OP links. you are doing gods work, keep it up.

Is it possible some rooms got editied into their final versions and the previous versions send in beta vids are non existent?

>>6700359
Another old/unused map
Map2.GCX and Map2.COL
unfortunately I cant find a scr file for this one so using Map4.SCR

>>6700945
Seen not send. My bad.

>>6700946
And a version of the multiplayer Character Select Screen

does this look smoother to you guys? still needs some tweaking, but i'm closer to getting it just right.

>>6701034
select all faces for nose, set to smoothing group 1
select all faces for the head, smoothing group 2
select hat except for brim, smoothing group 3
hat brim, smoothing group 4

>>6701051
how do i do that in blender?

Somone bring back the old hyrule.

>>6701060
I wouldn't know, I'm a Max boomer and Blender's UI makes my head hurt

>>6701067
I don't know the first thing about OOT modding but if I did I'd go completely balls to the wall and probably make levels that are more fit for a Souls game than a Zelda game
how easy is this shit to do now? are we talking Lunar Magic levels of ease yet or do I still have to learn assembly

>>6701080
if i send the model here, do you think you could take a shot at it? i don't think blender has anything like smoothing groups

>>6701101
Blender absolutely has smoothing groups
but yeah, feel free to upload it somewhere and I can smooth it for you if you want

>>6700946
lmao wtf is that, smiley planet!?!

>>6701112
https://anonfiles()com/j0j22eLeod/beta_hed_obj
here ya go

>>6700964
holy shit it's early deku scrubs! love it! fitting digits too!

>>6701134
Are you for serious

>>6701127
https://anonfiles()com/F4o528Lbo6/bingbingwahoo_obj
your big problem was that vertices were not welded, welding them fixed the smoothing you already had on the model

>>6701080
>Blender's UI makes my head hurt
You should have seen what it looked like before the big 2.8 change. It was far worse and was a huge sticking point to tons of new people especially myself.

>>6701123
It's a troll face in space

Do people actually want to play Mario 64 with the beta sounds?
youtube.com/watch?v=nnRFtB4ciZQ

>>6701134
Its early these

>>6701080
Darkworld OOT. Less hints, less npcs, more rvil designs.

>>6700979
>>6700946
>>6700359
>>6699907
>>6699910
Anyway here's a download of everything I currently have converted from arimoto/SF2 using SCAD
https://mega.nz/file/38dSUKhb#AIcJLTaZFFw-yG6cCiT95ZM8eGAx3pwZuU1ORKyZWK4

>>6701381
those octoroks are on land though ... oh wait, just like the original zelda, kek

>>6701281
yeah, it'd be funny

>>6697326
Thanks for the links. I was looking for them two specifically

>>6698834
Thing is, you don’t need to back faxes up, you just have to keep them from being burned or shredded.

>>6700429
Calamity Ganon is a stupid fucking name and the dumbest thing in Zelda since trains. No one uses the word calamity anymore and in America it has associations with Calamity Jane, a figure of the old west. The immortal undead King of Gerudos is not a cowboy.

>>6700783
Weren’t both these rooms in the Master Quest debug rom? Pretty sure they were.

>>6700734
>new screenshot
>unknown area
>OoT beta Link
Elaborate.

>>6701957
It's from a fan project I believe?
There's a lot out there but some are really cool n really catch the vibe of beta OoT

>>6701957
its from the fstdan dungeon in the leak
you'd know if you watched the vids

>>6701957
that's the top of the dungeon whose models we found in the gigaleak, some of those rooms that lead up there have been seen before in early screenshots/video but that part specifically (the top of the tower) had not been shown publically before in any known media

>>6701957
It's not actually THE beta link, it's a recreation.
And it's eyes are too small in my opinion.

>>6702004
Thank you for explaining where the Link is from. I don’t know how I missed beta Link being in the leaks, but I guess I should’ve watched the vids as you say.

>>6702012
>>6702016
Thanks.

Does anyone know how to get the N64 roms in bbgames to run on an emulator? Keeps crashing for me.

>>6699063
>>6699239
>>6700212
It's a fake. There's a map like this in the Zelda's Birthday ROM Hack.

>>6702143
you know how some franchises have characters' birthdays in additional material books for no reason? Did they ever do this for say the Zelda or Mayro series?

>>6702143
How do you know?

So when do I get my Wave Race source port/level editor?

>>6701658
There is a vid of the beta octoroks working again.

>>6702221

>>6702242
They're looking off?

>>6702253
Theyre the same.

>>6698693
ok, but why do the two smaller trees have glitchy leaves? I think it was tiled incorrectly. maybe the other two trees don't have faces.

>>6702253
The difference between an old magazine scan from the 90s and a youtube video

>>6702274
>>6702262
It's less red

>>6702279
Anon...

did we ever find out why Link had pink hair?

>>6702242
We're Back: An Octorok Story

>>6702263
If you've looked at the ALTTP data, you'd know there are glitchy incorrectly tiled things everywhere. We don't quite know why yet. I suspect it's us looking in someone's trash, seeing a hamburger and wondering why it's half eating and rotten. (ew food analogy)

>>6702242
They fpund the old wallmaster, iknow knuckles, green knights, blobs etc.

>>6702304
Genetic abnormality.

>>6702334
lol

>>6702157
Nope. Only Nintendo franchise I can think of that did that is MOTHER, and even then it’s only one character (Anna was born on Christmas).

Why is a random Miyamoto interview from 1989 the only evidence Shigesato Itoi ever worked on the early Zeldas, possibly even before 3?

"I’ve never been too particular about the story in the games I’ve made in conjunction with (Earthbound creator) Shigesato Itoi. The stories of Mario and Zelda titles have always been supplemental to the actual gameplay. Action games only have stories attached to make the experience more interesting. Itoi is the one that writes the story, and I just help out a bit."

Really makes it seem like he made quite more than just Zelda 3 with Itoi by 1989 given he says in the gameS he makes with Itoi.

>>6701941
>Calamity Ganon bad
>Jenova "the calamity from the skies" good

>>6701941
>the world must revolve around america
i bet you're white too

>>6702426
Not at all. FF7 is edgy tryhard cringe.

>>6702447
>North America isn’t Nintendo’s biggest English speaking market
>Calamity is not an archaic word everywhere else too

>>6702463
cope, amerilard

>>6702472
Kek, cope with what? You gave me nothing to work with, Mohammed.

>>6701184
I can use max and blender easily. It's just a matter of defining which edges are smooth and which are sharp in the case of mario's head.

It's not rocket science

>>6702493
No doubt but the menu is not as easy to go through and pick out where to go than it is now is all I am saying.

Did any piece of data from these leaks actually shock you?

>>6701941
>No one uses the word calamity anymore and in America it has associations with Calamity Jane, a figure of the old west.
No it isn't, retard. Not sure if I've ever heard of this term, and I love Western shit.

>>6702447
>i bet you're white too
True. I bet you wish you weren't born in the third world too.

>>6702705
unlike video games, flcl archeology will never exist

i get the feeling there is just too much content here for there to be a level of interest needed to go through it all except maybe for the Highly Obsessive fanbases like Mario 64 and OoT

>>6701136
>>6701381
Didn't think about this until now, but I think that anon has a point. How do we know that Deku Scrubs weren't created from land Octoroks? They act virtually the same way.

>>6702721
>mfw we end up finding out that the FLCL Movie actually existed
Please don't remind me of the recent sequels.

>>6702794
AI may be culled from proto-octoroks. Perhaps they thought octoroks didnt feel right in the forest and swapped to deku scrubs

>>6702794
>They act virtually the same way.
I didn't know Octorocks hid in holes in the ground and took off running in fear when their shots were reflected back at them

>>6702794
Check their animations then.

>>6702768
real shame. I feel like people could make cool stuff out of other games but since Mario 64 is the only one they've cracked ( and I use that term loosely since they can't even figure out how to get things running on real hardware at an acceptable framerate ) they don't bother trying to figure out how other shit works.

>>6702794

>>6702825

fucking around with sm64 gave me a stupid shitpost idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kD-aFhdL4_g

Any theories on why it seems like there is very little dark world stuff in the alttp material but then there's Ganon's room in the PoP sticking out like a big fat thumb?

>>6702812
>>6702814
I didn't mean their animations or coloring was exactly the same, insecure pedants.

>>6702807
This nig gets it. Makes sense that they possibly changed them early in develoent to fit the themes of the developing game more.

>>6702847
What exactly about either of those posts is "insecure"
And my post wasn't talking about animations, it was talking about general behaviour. And neither was talking about coloring.
Are you okay, Anon? Are you feeling insecure yourself?

>>6702304
something to do with limitations because of the rabbit sprite color I think.

>>6696943
nobody needs your help dude

>>6702860
I thought they just did it so his hair would stand out better against the yellow rim on his hat.

>>6702860
That doesn't make any sense. The rabbit is a wholly different sprite. They wouldn't be forced to use the rabbit colors while in human form. Also sprite color limitations were far more lax for the SNES than on NES.

>>6702870
not him but if they use the same palette it could matter. no idea if they do though

i'm working on recreating the beta music for sm64, first up is dire dire docks

How much is left of proto assets for even OoT? Maybe this was all they kept. The rest destroyed forever.

Palettes were a mistake. Should've just encoded the color data into the sprites and duplicated them on the rom if they wanted to swap.

>>6702948
Ah yes, a modern developer, who doesn't know how to squeeze every byte out of a very limited amount of data, and would rather waste it on dumb shit like that.

>>6702959
Would've been a lot easier for us to sort through with only 2 factors rather than 3

>>6702927
The early temple of time outside and forest map exist but nobody wont put the map together.

Rest of the 10 plus rooms from betas are probably gome forever or edited into what the final game has..

>>6702964
Waste a bunch of data on unneeded duplicate images when space is already tight as fuck for the convenience of future dataminers, at the cost of having a much shorter game.
Yes. This makes perfect sense.

>>6702702
>claims to love Western shit
>has never heard of Calamity Jame
>I'm the retard
You probably don't know who Wyatt Earp is either, zoomer. Cope.

>>6702987
>at the cost of having a much shorter game.
Just pay for larger roms. ALTTP is only 1MB meanwhile Super Metroid is 3!

>>6702987
dataminers are preservation. preservation important.

>>6702995
Holy shit, now you want to unnecessarily increase production costs. You're fired, son.

>>6703005
tape backups of prototype data sure is overhead on production costs. Maybe they should cut that too, anon.

>>6703010
WIll anyone ever apply textures to this? Are there even any textures left to apply?

>>6702990
I'm pretty familiar with the OK Corral thing. Doc Holliday is beyond based and I wish I could use a Derringer like that.

>>6702884
I haven't fucked with ALLTP hacking for more than a few minutes but I think others have given Link proper hair color rather easily without losing the pink rabbit.

I have done a lot of work on Mario All Stars and i'm suprised at how unnecesary some of the inaccurate colors and designs on some enemies are, particularly the Koopalings.

SMW is just a carnival of nonsense though and nobody can seem to figure out how to change Koopaling colors so maybe there's something I don't understand.

>>6702990
Also, possibly my favorite movie of all time is Liberty Valence. Sounds you like this sort of good shit, too, so check it out when you can, cowbro.

>>6703030
>nobody can seem to figure out how to change Koopaling colors
hardcoded palettes maybe

>>6702351
Green knights are actually supposed to be smaller beta Moblins.

>>6702340
that makes sense.

>>6703005
pretty much this. programmers were expected to create a working product with maximum efficiency given the limitations of that era. of course this was long before games turned into interactive movies.

>>6703034
>Also, possibly my favorite movie of all time is Liberty Valence.
I'll check it out. I like Westerns, but I can't claim to be a huge cowboy geek or anything. I just know names like Buffalo Bill, Wild Bill Hickok, Wyatt Earp, Calamity Jane, etc. through history books and cultural osmosis. It didn't hurt that there was a Calamity Jane Saturday morning cartoon when I was growing up (completely undeserved, in real life she was a whore who exaggerated lied about many of exploits).

So I've found the sample used in the prerelease version of Dire Dire Docks: it's the Electric Piano 1 sample from the Yamaha DX7. Hope I can get a sample of it somewhere.

>>6703070
Wait, how would you know it was used there? Was there Shoshinkai footage of beta DDD?

>>6703076
yep!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GijcpUMYOOw
at the 13 minute mark.

>>6703080
*second
i am mr. retard.

>>6703080
Oh, cool! As much as I think the final is perfect, that sounds nice too.

>>6703086
there's a high quality recreation of it on youtube as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnNhsOtvNc0

>>6703021
Its this.

>>6703098
i see no trees

>>6696816
That shit has already been disproven, dude.

FOUND THE SAMPLE.
now i have to insert the instrument into the dire dire docks instrument list and all will be good

>>6703069
I learned about Western figures mostly through my dad and other random people, so maybe that's why I'm not familiar with some "important" figures like Calamity Jane or Billy the Kid. I love history, but I hated history classes in highschool and the narratives presented thereof, so I probably missed out on a lot of well-known cultural references.

>>6703105
The trees are arent there

>>6703121
Spooky. But without textures it can never be restored. It is forever lost.

>>6703130
Stuff exist but trannies are hiding it.

>>6703146
They have so much power, they are everywhere

>>6703146
rent free

>>6703168
Lol u seethe.

once i've got the sample all set up, do you wanna hear the finished result?

>>6703174
Someone put a bit of effort into that fuck you

>>6703187
yes

>>6703187
No

>>6703187
maybe

How does it feel knowing that the only truth you discover from these leaks from here on out will be the truth you find for yourself?

>>6696934
>that speed down MJ's HOO

WOW.

>>6703229
you will never reach the truth

>>6703237
yeah, it's kinda cute imo
anyways, here it is, recorded from my own N64 - a recreation of the beta dire dire docks.
https://anonfiles()com/n4C47aL7o9/Super_Mario_64_-_Dire_Dire_Docks_Beta_Version_wav

>>6696934
I hate everything about this other than the way Mario leans back when he runs, though that seems more fitting for Luigi than Mario.

>>6703251
yeah, thank god they changed everything and gave mario a fitting triple jump. i do like the straight-back running, but you're right, it's more fitting for luigi. maybe that was planned? to have luigi run with his back straight, but they tested it with mario first and that's what we saw in early footage?