/vr/ - Retro Games

It's tailored for compulsive ricers obsessed with getting the best possible video output then they just play 5 minutes and get bored.
I used to waste time with dither shaders and shit then realized it's really unnecessary, just sit 6 feet from the screen and most of the dither goes away.

i just use mednafen for most of the games i play

>>6673076
Interlace is clunky and not user friendly.
Same with Mednafen.

I prefer a single high quality emulator for the system i want to emulate.

This is the main reason i don't like it.

has some nice features but it is soulless as fuck

>>6673076
It provides the best gaming experience of any kind that I’ve ever had. It’s a true gaming OS in a sense.

it's fine for basic consoles but falls apart when you want to play multi-disc systems, use peripherals like microphones, or emulate computers.

i feel like a retard because i find the interface so confusing. i dont understand why anyone would want options split between "core options" and "general options". Who the fuck would want options to carry between cores? So its really convoluted. Its difficult for me to tell if a video setting affects all cores or just the specific one. And mapping the controls is a nightmare due to the extra layer of abstraction with the retropad - why cant i just pick any button I want immediately like any other emulator ever? First you have to set the buttons of the retropad, then set those buttons for each core (?). what a mess

>>6673076
it takes a lot of effort to setup properly
most of that is the fault of the developers for being such eggheads
the UI historically has been dogshit, although its new ozone UI is miles ahead of the XMB based shit they were using as default for most platforms before
romsets are basically required because the devs didn't bother implementing a WIMP interface until recently, and even that's still barely usable; many important functions are straight up missing (for no good reason either). drag and drop, which is how i used emulators forever, is a lot less easy when you have to tell retroarch what core you want to use (come on, i drop in a .md file, and only have one mega drive core installed. why would you prompt me if i want to open it with bsnes?)
playlists remove that annoyance, so if you don't mind having the entire catalogue of the system you're emulating it's not a big problem
the devs are absolute bastards to users, and worse in private; see here:
https://forums.libretro.com/t/playlist-for-neo-geo-aes/20712
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues/4843
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2017/05/23/emudevs/
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/what-happens-with-the-other-650/
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2019/06/02/mame-libretro-reicast-drama/

its fine once you get it working, and it does have its benefits (you can use the same shaders with basically every system, for instance), but you inevitably will encounter tons of problems in just trying to set things up. try having more than one controller, for instance; god forbid you want retroarch properly remembering each controllers layout to be a simple process (hint: i gave up, and have to set the layout for every controller whenever i plug them in manually now)

As others have said, my experience is that it has been hard to learn and navigate. Nice to have a bunch of emulators, all together in one launcher. So, it's kind of like steam in that regard, where it's just one application to launch a bunch of different games. But, at least for the OS's that I have used, it seems like the emulators are old/out-of-date, so it might be better to use a dedicated emulator. On my phone, DS slogs through retroarch, but works perfectly with SuperNDS

>>6673202
By the way, I know the question sounds stupid, but I don't see the answer anywhere. How do I change a floppy disk without resetting the retroarch on the amiga and other computers cores?

>>6673076
it's not for people without basic knowledge, I don't know how people struggle with the interface or the settings

ra is great for lots of things and is arguably the best way to play certain games.
the main developer is so unbelievably toxic that companies have gone out of their way not to work with him. He is radioactive at this point.

>>6673076
pretty damn amateurish project, tries too hard to have a modern fresh interface instead of something you actually want to use. Reminds me to my first programs.
Feels like 3 different apps combined, if something goes wrong there is no way to tell whats wrong, the recording is ass.

There are better ways to have universal control settings or an all-in-one emulator for your specialized custom hardware needs.

>>6673076

I fucking love it. A SHIELD 2019 and Retroarch means I can emulate everything up to Dreamcast

i dont see a reason to use it.

>>6673076
I used it on my cracked 3DS and ended up unable to run the games I wanted without getting up to my asshole in plugins and configs. I just inject roms to play from the home menu on my 3DS now, and if I want to play on PC, I redownload ZSNES, P64 or FCEUX on my laptop. Investing in a better rig to emulate newer games would be way more expensive than just buying them.

>>6673120
>>6673430
These. I just don't see a point in using it when I can just as easily load a dedicated emulator for the system I want to play. No having to waste time in swapping cores and changing settings.

>>6673076
IMO RetroArch is ironically the smooth brained way to emulate games. I say this as a person who uses plays all his retro using only RetroArch. I use it literally because I can't be bothered to download and set up all the different emulators for the systems I wan't to play. RetroArch is basicly the iPhone of emulation

>>6673421
>There are better ways to have universal control settings or an all-in-one emulator for your specialized custom hardware needs.

are there? I don't think so.

>>6673467
>No having to waste time in swapping cores and changing settings.

But you don't. Once it's set up you just launch the rom from your library and it picks the core automatically

I haven't found anything that competes with retroarch's capabilities. Mednafen comes in at a distant second even when you use mednaffe

i was using skeletonkey as my main frontend tool for retroarch until I switched to linux and shortly after they introduced a true wimp gui.

Works alright, I use it for PSone and Turbografix mainly, I have dedicated emulators for other shit.

>>6673327
>unbelievably toxic
in what way?

>>6673696
per >>6673230
the devs are absolute bastards to users, and worse in private; see here:
https://forums.libretro.com/t/playlist-for-neo-geo-aes/20712
https://github.com/libretro/RetroArch/issues/4843
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2017/05/23/emudevs/
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2017/03/26/what-happens-with-the-other-650/
https://retroarchleaks.wordpress.com/2019/06/02/mame-libretro-reicast-drama/

>>6673707
alright so he hurt your feelings?
I couldn't give two shits about how someone acts, if the product they make works well, I will use it
And for people who complain it's hard to set up, maybe they should learn basic computer skills

>>6673716
>alright so he hurt your feelings?
these are public posts and private IRC logs that i had no involvement with, directly or indirectly
>I couldn't give two shits about how someone acts, if the product they make works well, I will use it
thats a fair attitude, but being a cunt, especially publicly, is a clear sign of bad character.
i support numerous free software and public information projects through donations. retroarch *would* have been one of them, but im not sending money to an arrogant cuntwad
>And for people who complain it's hard to set up, maybe they should learn basic computer skills
like i said earlier:
>>it takes a lot of effort to setup properly
>>most of that is the fault of the developers for being such eggheads
making your software without considering how easy it is for people to actually use (and in this case, active resistance towards that idea) is not a winning strategy

>>6673721
it takes less effort to set up than dolphin or even epsxe

>>6673725
>it takes less effort to set up than dolphin or even epsxe
blatantly false with dolphin; you locate your ISOs (or drag and drop), configure your controller, and you're ready to play.
i dont use ePSXE, but PCSXR just requires BIOS files and an understanding of how .bin and .cue files work, which you'd need for PS1 emulation on retroarch anyway

>>6673707
Jesus what utter dicks.
What's the best way to support the original devs over these shitheads?

>>6673731
you need to set up plugins on both those emulators before you play not to mention setting up controllers
so yes they do take more to set up

In my mind it's a necessity strictly for it's audio/ video syncing and runahead. I also like the shaders

>less input lag than standalone emulators
>less microstutter/frame pacing issues than standalone emulators
>bar none best shaders/filters if you're into that kind of thing

Even for shit like Dolphin, where the standalone gives me frame stutters every few seconds even when it's running at 60fps, running the dolphin core in retroarch gives me butter smooth synching

>>6673735
retroarch uses the concept of emulation "cores"; you can think of cores as the part of the emulator that translates machine code from one architecture to another, with retroarch handling the display and inputs
theres a variety of cores, i recommend checking out the emulation gametech wiki: https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
for example, lets say you want to support SNES emulation development. go here: https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Super_Nintendo_emulators
you can see a list of emulators; the ones with a green checkmark under "Libretro Core" are available in retroarch. instead of giving the money to libretro, you can instead donate to the devs of snes9x or bsnes (be warned, byuu is retarded too, but he's just a dramaqueen afaik and not ballistically belligerent)
>>6673740
i have never needed to setup plugins for dolphin or PCSXR; elaborate.

>>6673749
>i have never needed to setup plugins for dolphin or PCSXR; elaborate
so either you never used them or you just don't remember when you originally set them up

>>6673769
what part of elaborate did you not understand

Do people really have that much of an issue with the UI? It could definitely be improved but it takes like 5 minutes to get acclimated and then you're rewarded with a flat out better emulation experience (for 8 to 64 bit consoles anyway, arcade and home computer cores are still pretty shit)

>>6673802
clearly, with the amount of people who complain about it, there's an issue worth solving.

>>6673803
yeah, their brains, there's a reason why some people should stick to consoles

>>6673806
im surprised as long as it did for the thread to get infiltrated by totally not retroarch devs

>>6673807
>dev
uh huh, only a dev would call someone dumb because they can't use a basic UI

>>6673076
some people love it
others are butthurt that they have to learn something new to take advantage of all the nice things it brings to the table or just don't even know what it does, thinking it's nothing more than an unneccesary 10' frontend (i assumed as much to begin with, too. go on, go to their website and look up what it actually does and make up your own mind)

is it perfect? no, of course not, nothing is, but it's better than what we had before

>>6673821
>but it's better than what we had before
yep and as soon as something better comes that will be more popular and the same thing will happen, people will complain
I don;t see anything better happening for a long time though

>>6673816
starting at >>6673716, the thread has been hijacked by likely just one poster making bad faith arguments
multiple posters criticise lead dev for acting like a total jackass
>"alright so he hurt your feelings?"
multiple posters criticise retroarch's UI
>"And for people who complain it's hard to set up, maybe they should learn basic computer skills", and "it takes less effort to set up than dolphin or even epsxe" (again, blatantly false) and "yeah, [they should fix] their brains, there's a reason why some people should stick to consoles"
i say "i have never needed to setup plugins for dolphin or PCSXR; elaborate."
>poster responds: "so either you never used them or you just don't remember when you originally set them up"
doesn't actually elaborate as to what these supposedly necessary plugins are, and why im not familiar with them
>>6673821
>>"some people love it
>>others are butthurt that they have to learn something new"
learning something new has never been a problem for me. needing to navigate through bad design, however, is just frustrating. none of this UI carries over to anything else because the esoteric layout belongs to the retroarch devs preferences and them alone
>>6673827
this thread has sat at 22 unique posters for the past 30 minutes; you are the same as:
>>6673816
>>6673821
stop same fagging to suck off an emulation front end; you're not even getting paid.

>>6673802
It's too complicated for total normies and too slow for anyone who knows what they're doing. I wouldn't hand that to my Mom and say "good luck" but she can navigate a PS3 just fine, so I think it's an inappropriate use of a user-friendly UI since it doesn't actually communicate what's needed for the sort of audience who'd benefit from it. And again, anyone who knows what they're doing shouldn't have to deal with something that slow and cumbersome. Just because the UI worked well for simple tasks on the PS3 doesn't mean it's best for more complex tasks.

>>6673848
>It's too complicated for total normies and too slow for anyone who knows what they're doing.
i think that sums the XMB interface up perfectly
its better now with ozone, but some remnants of that design philosophy still very much remain

>>6673848
>too slow for anyone who knows what they're doin

But you're not really using retroarch for the UI, you're using it for its unmatched synching and latency reduction features. The UI is a sore spot to get around, but once you do you get features you simply don't have with standalones (I think bsnes is the only stand alone emulator with runahead?)

>>6673834
why does Retroarch bring all the crazies, you do realise the IP's didn't increase because you and I were having a back and forth right?
Why should I elaborate something that is self explanatory

>>6673537
What is Launchbox?

>>6673884
odd, my browser shows something different

>>6673707
this twinapex guy seems utterly based, I don't see a problem

>>6673893
based on what?

>>6673076
Its a decent solution for cross platform games, though libreto core implemention leaves much to be desired. A lot of emulator ports are handed badly if the emulator in question isn't already tried and tested. For some retroarch cores, such as Desmume, its better to run a Desmume emulator (I run modded fork of the emulator) as a standalone and avoid retroarch altogether.

For archiving purposes, its decent.

>>6673895
based on the evidence behind those links
I have newfound respect for someone who doesn't knee before brainlets and screeching autists
and the way he roasted that redream dev from Ukraine...lmao

when i use retroarch on my phone (android) the custom aspect ratio settings for x and y offset dont work, like i tap on them and nothing happens when i should be getting a menu to set the value. it makes it impossible to use a lot of overlays, which is fucking gay. ive tried multiple releases and its always the same.
anyone experienced this or know what the hell i can do to fix it? it makes me autistically angry.

>>6673915
>respecting dickheads
You're a woman, gottit.

>>6673928
your fee fees aint worth shit
shove that licences up your ass and stop writing code in open source if you're afraid of someone profiteering off your work
simple as

>>6673928
kek

>>6673327

> the main developer is so unbelievably toxic that companies have gone out of their way not to work with him.

implying any of these "companies" would actually offer "work" vs. just ripping off an opensource project.

>>6673707
>waaaaaahhhh
lmao
>>6673430
>i don't understand the current state of the world
>>6673467
>I just don't see a point in using it when I can just as easily load a dedicated emulator for the system I want to play
Literally retarded or just stupid?
>>6673123
>muh sOuL
Go back.

>>6674025
you look mad for no reason. It's not that important if we use retroarch or not.

>>6674032
Did the incel get triggered again?

>>6674032

I can't imagine not using something and then hanging out in a thread to shitpost against it. That must be a special kind of autism.

Ui is crap, but still best option for psx, genesis, n64... Plus a few discontinued emulators that are still developed as cores (3do, vectrex, atari 7800...)

Plus chd support is very nice.

>>6674214
I don't see that myself. It seems like some people are calmly explaining why they dislike retroarch, and some are saying why they do like it. That's the point of the thread. This:
>>6674025
is shitposting.

>>6673252
You use the change disk option anon.

>>6673076
Basically yeah. It's got a bunch of features, like DRC, runahead and multipass shaders that are uncommon or poorly implemented in standalones. If you know what you want, RetroArch is often the best choice, and you always want good DRC when you're emulating on a PC. There's also a bunch of good emulators that require RetroArch, like Parallel N64, Mupen64Plus Next, Flycast and Genesis Plus GX, and emulators that have really shitty standalones, like bsnes and mGBA. The problem that RetroArch solves is that emudeving is a really specific skill that doesn't translate to modern systems programming or graphics programming, so a lot of good emulators have bad graphics or input code. It's much better to have one good implementation of all the shit you need in an emulator that isn't specific to a certain console, so it doesn't have to be reimplemented poorly in every standalone, and that's what RetroArch is.

RetroArch filters a bunch of people because it has a slightly unusual interface, and some of them get really sour grapes over it, but you can tell those people because they never have any technical criticisms. It's always about the UI, or about how one of the devs said a rude thing, or about how not using standalones "feels wrong" or something like that. Honestly, if you can't use a program with an unusual UI, what the fuck are you doing on /vr/? Retro computing comes before the era of UX design. Every second program in the 90s had an unusual UI by today's standards. If RetroArch filters you, you're probably a zoomer. Seriously learn how to use a fucking computer.

>>6674323
Common sense ? On /vr/ ? Holy shit that's refreshing.

Seriously, thanks anon.

>>6673076
Good for consoles, bad for home computers.

>>6673076
It's objectively better than original hardware, but you need triple-digit IQ to use it.

>>6674367
At the moment yeah

>>6674382
It'd be a *lot* better for home computers if I could use the keyboard. Or figure how to fucking use DOSBox on it. I like the shaders.
My experiences:
8-bitters: work well, annoying to use a playlist when I should be able to swap discs thru the menu
Amiga, Atari ST: can't for the life of me get this to work at all
ScummVM: crashes
Home computers via MAME/MESS: Can't get them to work at all when I can do it in the standard program
DOSBox: can't get this working at all
picrelated is probably me

>>6673076
Shilling for retroass, lol

>>6673252
The cores I used require you to write a playlist file in advance with all the disks you might want to use in one session in order to be able to swap between them. It's annoying and not worth it.

>>6673230
>try having more than one controller, for instance; god forbid you want retroarch properly remembering each controllers layout to be a simple process (hint: i gave up, and have to set the layout for every controller whenever i plug them in manually now)
Good point, it used to work for me but then broke and every time I switch controllers I have to rebind. Haven't used RA in a while as a result.

Screen rotation is also a nightmare because it does not maintain aspect ratio unless you rotate the entire display.

It's the holy grail of retro gaming on PC but not without its flaws
Main gripes for me
-bad error feedback: instead of specifying what went wrong, ra just doesn't boot the game or crashes, you have to enable logging to find out whats going on but that doesn't always help either
-controller management is abysmal, all inputs are tied to a controller PORT instead of controller ID, which means if you want to use 2 different controllers with RA you're fucked
-no thumbnail tile view option, as with launchbox. Visual feedback can help you identify the game you want to play faster than text

>>6674323
>sour grapes
Daniel, Daniel cocksucker or false flagger? lol

>>6674517
Oh and of course you can't format a new disk from it, so if you want a new user disk for a game you have to use a standalone emulator anyway and do all that shit in advance, then create your playlist, then run it in RA... Why bother at that point?

I use Openemu

After a bit of fiddling around with the menu engine to replace it with RGUI and changing up the color a bit it pretty much became my go-to emulation program. With cores of pretty much every system's best emulator aside from a couple where it's better to just use the standalone like the PPSSPP core it's quite a nice package.

>>6673076
It's as good as it gets when in comes to classic game console emulation. I can't go back to emulators with high imput lag after cranking up the latency options in RA.
A lot of people shit on it because the main dev is kind of an annoying autist but that's par for the course as far as emulation goes.

>>6674046
>haha get laid xD
get a new line, its the current year

>>6673076
I use it on my Wii to emulate Atari 2600, NES, SMS, SNES, Genesis, GB, GBC, GBA, and PC-Engine games
It's fuckin rad just for the convenience

>>6673076
It's bloated, harder to use, has a bad gui, doesn't come with the software it needs yet is giga big a file to download (poor people that emulate would have smaller space to save things and also data being slow), etc hate it forever.

>>6676052
50 iq take

>>6675923
Incel is a redditor meme and sheep can't be original anon.

>>6676058
>download giant file
>try to play
>need to download cores
>do so
>so laggy computer cannot take it
>delete zoomerarch
>keep using 2007ish era emulators

>>6674309
Where do I find it?

>>6673707
Other than retards getting their precious fee fees hurt over asking stupid questions (and getting upset by the answers they're given) I don't really see the issue. Be less of a little faggot bitch. That would probably help.
inb4 i get called a retroarch dev

>>6676245
you can be a cunt all you want; just dont be surprised when people call you out on it and you're not getting as many donations as youd like

>>6676249
>some fagmo (xer/xher) asks a stupid question
>gets a polite response
>this makes them feel stupid
>"fuck you are soaftwhare is le bad and ur bad man!"
>no, you're just a retard, and we're not changing it for the following reason(s)
This is apparently being a cunt.

>>6676260
Join his shitcord/IRC and criticize something about RetroShart and maybe you'll understand.

>>6676065
woes of a retard

Retroarch is the ultimate pleb filter even though I'm sure it was intended to help plebs.

>>6676270
Why? You've already linked your evidence, I looked at it, and rationally concluded that you're just a little bitch who can't handle being told no and feels entitled to complain about a piece of software you do literally nothing to contribute to (and still haven't even bothered to read the docs for, obviously). You whinging about his Discord or IRC is just a sad attempt at goalpost moving.

>>6676294
>my name is Daniel, I've looked at my crimes and have concluded I'm innocent
k

>>6676295
>inb4 i get called a retroarch dev
Called it.

Whoops, just being infinitely superior in every way imaginable

>>6676304
You act like one. Stupid unjustified aggressive attitude, thinking everyone replying to you is the same person, and defending an obvious asshole like your life is at stake.

>>6676319
>i got my fee fees hurt
I'm sorry. You're still a bitch, though.

>>6676323
OK cocksucker

>>6676319

All you have is a bunch old quotes from literally 4 years ago. For all you know the guy has changed and that is why that obsessive stalker autist has no more stuff to report. I dunno, maybe it's time to let it go because this makes you look worse DESU, still brandishing old wounds like a bitch.

>>6676260
>turns on video filters to test out those cool shaders all the zoomies are talking about
>realise the "video filters" are CPU-powered and aren't the shaders you want
>"ok, let me just turn them off"
>there's no clear way to; once you've selected a filter, the only option you're given is to select another
>"huh, must be a bug. this is in development, after all"
>create an issue on the bug tracker
>the lead dev tells you how to disable it
>suggest that the ability to disable video filters are more clear, because not everyone uses a controller to navigate the menus outside of the games they play
>get told "this isn't a bug, it's a feature; you're just ignorant"
>someone else backs you up saying button prompts would help everyone not familiar with PS3's XMB
>the lead dev says "If the official PS3/PS4 OS shows button indicators like this onscreen inside the menu, sure, make a Github issue about it."
>the lead dev is insisting on following old ass UI design from sony that they don't even fucking use anymore

>people like >>6676294 actually think user feedback is just entitlement
if you dont want to see people criticise your little pet project, don't go on an anonymous image board

>>6676341

if its that easy, send a PR. You cannot feel entitled over code when you do nothing to contribute.

>>6676349
>people like >>6676294 actually think user feedback is just entitlement
thanks for proving my point
next time you see a movie you don't like, maybe the director should tell you "fuck off if you're not willing to shoot something better"

>>6676292
it comes close, but MAME still filters way more people

>>6676337
>>6676349
>reddit spacing
>irrationally offended about retroarch criticism
Yep, that's Daniel.

>>6673105
what's wrong with mednafen?

>>6676358
mame actually has a reason for being as esoteric as it is, seeing as it's trying to emulate such a fucking huge number of machines, which is a daunting enough task just because of the huge ass romsets it needs to work properly
retroarch is just a frontend for various emulators
both have UI problems, but retroarch's is held back by its lead devs retarded ideals that no one else shares, which is infinitely worse

>>6676357
>next time you see a movie you don't like, maybe the director should tell you "fuck off if you're not willing to shoot something better"
Yes, exactly. You're so fucking close to an epiphany it's almost funny.

>>6676357

what do you think kneel cuckmann is saying to people that hate his game? 'you are brainlets, you did not understand it'

newsflash

artist is a shorthand for autist. every single one of them, doesnt matter any field. creatives are autists. if you wabmnt manufactured cookiecutter PR responses, these are the wrong people for you to engage with.

>>6676357
Based reasoning

>>6676359

its almost as if you are a bad faith actor with an axe to grind.

i know of ex girlfriends that are less neurotic.

>>6676395
>axe to grind
lmao, you're too obvious Daniel

>>6676376
so you think that criticism of anything is just entitlement unless you're equally an expert in what you're criticising
i hope you convey that mentality to your boss and coworkers so you can really stick it to the commoners
>>6676359
>>6676401
who exactly is this daniel?
>>6676386
not all autists are belligerent bastards

>>6676401

back to calling everyone a retroarch dev.

got anything better in that playbook of yours, or is this all you got?

>>6676404
fwiw, im the one who originally pulled the dev card at >>6673807
we aren't the same poster. you'd think one would learn to pickup on cues like typing style to differentiate posters by now

>>6676403

we fucking get it by now. you are like a broken record.

if you want a friend, get a dog. nobody gaf about your feeh fees

>>6673076
It has some plugin less emulators and it's good to have everything compiled in 1 software, so that's a big plus. But I dedicated emulators are still the thing.

>>6676403
>who exactly is this daniel?
The autistic NEET scammer "leader" of RetroArch LLC who's infamous for having an extremely awful personality as shown in the retroarchleaks links above.

Retroarchs are for normies who are content when it just werks, you don't need to seethe at its existence just because you want to figure out your own emulator solutions.

>>6676408
my feelings aren't hurt by any of this retardation, but i know im sure as hell not giving money to libretro.
as a famous boxer once said, "the devs of snes9x never called me a nigger"

>>6676403
>so you think that criticism of anything is just entitlement unless you're equally an expert in what you're criticising
Yeah, especially when you have nothing invested in what you're crying about. Or even worse, have no fucking clue what you're crying about.
>i hope you convey that mentality to your boss and coworkers so you can really stick it to the commoners
Yes. I let stupid people know they're stupid. I have shit to do and am more than capable of doing it. If I needed feedback on it, I'd get it, and it'd be from someone who's actually capable of providing it.

>>6676412
oh and forgot to mention he's also infamous for joining all discussions about him or retroarch to vehemently defend himself, and being extremely obvious about it.

>>6676419
>as a famous boxer once said, "the devs of snes9x never called me a nigger"
No, just a retard. Although I imagine you're used to hearing it by now.

>>6676420
>giving constructive feedback to try and help fix moonlogic UI is crying about something you know nothing about

>>6676428
Yeah, it seems you've finally got it.

>>6676412

back to your targeted harassment campaign which is totally not suspect btw and totally does not make you look like an obsessive stalker.

nobody cares. people use the program because it works. you can try cancelling this guy until the end of time, nobody honestly gives a shit.

>>6676431
>this guy
I think you mean "me"

>>6676431
im not interested in "cancelling" anyone, daniel
i just want you to act more professional if you're going to beg for money

>>6676437
>daniel
Wait, the faggot from Zweihander browses /vr/?

>>6676434

i think you should go back to kiwifarms with your other crazies. 4ch is not your personal army.

>>6676437
>im not interested in "cancelling" anyone, daniel
How many times is someone with funny colored hair, five o'clock shadow, and "preferred pronouns" going to tell this lie?

>>6676441
I think you should take your meds, Daniel

>>6673076
It's a decent frontend for downloading and updating emulator cores if you have more than a sub-80 IQ.

Just don't get caught up in the autistic arguments between the shader people, the contrarians, and the autistic developers of retroarch.

>>6676446

its probably the same loser from kiwifarms that harassed byuu to the point that he left, retrocrab.

>>6676457
To be fair, byuu isn't exactly a saint.

>>6676457
Yes Daniel. Everyone who doesn't like you is the same person.

>>6676431
>>6676441
>showing someone being a massive cunt in public and private is now targeted harassment
>>6676446
"y-you're just an SJW!!"
far from it. arent the super autistic belligerent programmers usually pozzed?
>>6676457
byuu chimps out every 6 months; i doubt anyone had any direct involvement with his latest episode

>>6676461
>"y-you're just an SJW!!"
I'm not wrong.
>arent the super autistic belligerent programmers usually pozzed?
Yes. As someone who's been involved in FOSS for years, the current landscape is bleak, to say the least.

>>6676478
>I'm not wrong.
what makes me, anon #47, an SJW

>>6676482
u suck a dick

>>6676484
creative

>>6676482
The fact that you cry just like they do. And the fact that you're still trying to convince the thread that you aren't.

>>6676489
>"fuck you retard, read the 400 page documentation before complaining that there's no clear way to disable video filters"
but also
>give me moni please :(
"no"
>"y-you baby!! y-you're just dumb, a-and stupid, a-and an SJW, a-and a crybaby!! yeah, a crybaby!! that's it, haha!"
lol ok retard

>>6676501
Jesus I was just here on the thread for shitpost and don't even care about your discussion. But let me tell you, you're sad

>>6676501

> "fuck you retard, read the 400 page documentation before complaining that there's no clear way to disable video filters"

> " I have to press start, OMG, who could have thought of that! totally requires a 400 page manual"

zoom zooms should keep paying $40/$50 for endless remasters on the consoles, that's what you deserve.

>>6676505
thanks for the compliment

>>6676512
>calls me a zoom zoom
>continues to use zoom zoom formatting
come on now, daniel. you write the most zoom zoom software there is.

>>6676501
Yeah, using the search feature of your browser or just doing a simple grep on some relevant keywords in a man page is truly beyond your capability. I'm also not asking for money, as I'm not whatever boogeyman dev you've convinced yourself I am. And you really are a crybaby SJW. Painfully so.

>>6676520
You're mistaken, Daniel doesn't "write" anything, unless you count "fix" and "refactor" in the git commit message.

>>6676527

> replies to himself now to make it less obvious he is brigading the conversation

>>6676521
using the search feature of my browser is exactly what i did, and its how i found that post on video filters, because i had the exact same issue 3 years after the issue was first raised
just because i figured out the solution and still use retroarch doesn't mean that's not bad UI design and retarded behaviour on the part of the lead dev

>>6676528
>has another schizo break
take your meds dan

>>6676528
holy shit learn to read writing styles

>>6676529

> bad UI design

>>6676529
>i'm not a retard, but i'm still retarded
I really don't know what anyone can do for you at this point.

>>6676532

Dilate

>>6676540
Cope

>>6676541

>>6676535
how is having the start button, a button typically used for entering a menu and selecting (or, you know *starting*) something, instead be used to activate an unseen (read: no prompt) disable option, which no other UI style uses (except maybe sony's XMB from 15 years ago, which, who still even uses at this point), *not* bad design

>>6676551
Well son, you see, the insane RetroArch man said it's not bad design, so it's not.

Maybe the UI isn't objectively bad, but as someone who grew up using emulators like P64, Retroarch's interface is really weird and unfamilar. It feels like it was designed by someone who never used emulators before.

>>6676558
this
i used gens, snes9x, and later kega fusion (among others like neko project II) for years, and all had standard WIMP interfaces that were all similar enough to each other than it was easy to navigate and find what options you were looking for quickly
using retroarch for the first time is like using "big picture mode" in steam
you don't know where anything is, and you try to keep using it to figure it out, but every time you run into an issue you think "fuck, why can't i just use the normal interface"
expect with steam, you can

>>6676181
Everything you need you use is in quick menu

>>6676459
Who fucking cares, Jesus Christ

>>6676460
Ironic that you say this because everyone that disagrees with is somehow “Daniel”

>>6673086
its pretty fucking good for everything retro if you use it with some of these rom launchers like launchbox

>>6676565
Are you retarded? It's pretty easy.
Or just press F11 and use that interface.
How do you put on clothes in the morning? Do you have an actual mental disability?

I find Retroarch extremely confusing when it comes to display options. Some stuff, like resolution and aspect ratio, is in the general overall settings and often not even in the "core settings" menu. Sure you can edit the config file to set the stuff per core, I guess, but why cant I just have an options menu with all that stuff for just the core? Sometimes I want different aspect ratios for different emulators and retroarch makes this a big pain in the ass for no reason

>>6676341
>"ok, let me just turn them off"
>there's no clear way to; once you've selected a filter, the only option you're given is to select another
You just turn "shaders" from "ON" to "OFF"
It's one of the first options in the menu.
Are you a mongoloid?

>>6676642
>Are you a mongoloid?
are you?
you realise theres a difference between the "video filters" and "shaders" right?
did you just get confused by the very UI you're trying to defend?

>>6676371
nothing really maybe it would be better to have more systems in it

>>6676657
just press start bro

So if I get these emulators separately, do they support Run Ahead, or is that a RetroArch only thing?

>>6676895
it's a retroarch/libretro thing

>Runahead
>Melee rollback
>Super Mario 64 native ports

This is a great year for videogames. No thanks to any of the videogame companies.

>>6676895
Quick rundown about this thing?

>>6676640
You can though, set a core override after adjustment of setting, you can do this for each core separately from the default, any options that you want individually you set core override

>>6676942
its a way to reduce input lag, even to be more responsive than the original consoles
however, i think doing it for games (or host hardware) that don't have issues already is a bit of a meme

>>6676974
Nice to know, thanks

I have RetroArch on a gaming PC for upscaling retro and having two sets of shaders makes everything better.

I've used runahead on Battletoads NES which was OP and does work, but I play more 32-bit era games so I keep that off.

Beetle PSX HW means life, Kronos has Saturn 2x upscaling, Flycast is straight up DC HDMI without dithering, Parallel RDP/RSP is now the most accurate N64 emulation and the upscaling is legit instead of the monstrosity that was HLE.

On a fresh PC the first thing I do is configure controls and change video driver to vulkan. Then enable integer scaling and core provided options and proceed to install reshade vulkan onto RetroArch. If I'm not in fullscreen I'll set up a 1280x960 window size and use crosires reshade to fill the 4:3 window manually with the "aspect ratio" shader instead of ever turning integer scale off.

I stick to 2x upscaling for PS1, Saturn, N64 and bsnes HD, but 4x can be nice. I also like to disable bilinear filtering on the N64 VI options to keep things crispy and on some N64 games I'll disable VI anti aliasing for the same reason, simply nice options to have.

Synchronize to G-Sync so you get the exact console refresh rates on your monitor or output to VGA via switchres.

Now you're playing with power.

>>6676997
very nice, but I would disable reshade on it as it's kind of pointless

>>6676318
give me an example

>>6676942
>Emulator saves state every single frame
>keeps states going back for X frames (in this case, 12)

>Press or release a button or dpad direction on controller
>Emulator loads state from X frames ago
>Emulator presses the button or whatever
>Emulator fast forwards X frames
>voila

Ideally you do like 1-3 frames, to try to offset delay or so you can play like it's a CRT.
In this example I set it to 12 just for shits and giggles, and we see Mario literally changing the past before our very eyes. Fun, but disorienting.

>>6676997
I know some of these words

>>6673086
You sound like a collector instead of a gamer

If you care about input delay then you have to use retroarch
If you care about pristine video/audio synching then you have to use retroarch
If you care about extensive shader configuration then you have to use retroarch

Its not about being a front end or the UI, its strictly about those features. I'd use stand alone emulators if they had runahead and the excellent frame pacing that retroarch provides but they don't. Once you get used to runahead, hard gpu sync and frame delay then it makes every other emulator feel like trash

I still don't know how to change resolution. Can't find it in the UI. Do I have to edit config files or something?

>>6676287
With banter like this you're making me want to no u post but that's already happened to an anon in the the thread at least once (due to your constant baiting) so I figure I'll just tell you:

don't pretend not liking zoomerach makes you low iq

>>6677489
Settings > video > output

>>6673076
Here's a note: retroarch is the only oplatform that supports real fast forward for psx. Wtf is that?

>>6677510
only options I have there are:

Video(drivers)
Monitor Index
Video Rotaion
Screen Orientation
GPU Index
Veritcal Refresh Rate
Estimated Screen Refresh Rate
Set Display-Reported Refresh Rate

>>6677526
What version are you using? Thats where it is for me

>>6677526
It literally says Screen Resolution between Video and Monitor Index

>>6677550
It's not there for me for some reason. When I try and use the the desktop menu and navigate to Screen Resolution under View > Settings > Video nothing happens when I click the drop down menu either.

>>6677583
Scaling should be the games resolution

>>6673076
I like it, but it's super clunck. They should remake the whole interface.

>>6678665
it already has a bunch of them

>>6678665
Chances are you haven't seen Ozone. They remade the whole interface.

>>6678665
this basically, although the new interface is much better, still does some things in dumb ways, but now that i'm used to it that doesn't matter

>>6673076
The low latency, my dude. Everything shitty about it is worth getting over for that alone.

>>6673076
Absolute and utter horseshit.
It's supposed to make your life easier by gathering all your emulators in one place, but at the end of the day it's just hours upon hours of useless work. Just fire up your standard emulator from your desktop and you're playing the game already.

>>6679003
>hours upon hours of useless work
jesus, took me 10 minutes to understand it and another 30 to mess around with shaders

you may not like it, but retroarch is what peak performance looks like

>>6678717
>>6678738
Nice.

>>6678767
I want to test this new interface.

>>6679003
>It's supposed to make your life easier by gathering all your emulators in one place

That's not the main purpose of retroarch, the reason you'd use it is for all of the latency reduction and synching features. until standalones start having shit like runahead then retroarch offers the best emulation experience for most older platforms

>>6679414
exactly, the whole rom picking part of it i don't even care about, i generally launch it from picking a rom from my file manager instead, similar to any standalone emulator
you can also drag a rom into a retroarch window to load it, also a common method of loading a game in a standalone emulator

>>6679003
It’s the only emulator with proper audio synchronization and that can properly set and detect refresh rate. Only emulator with runahead. It originally started as a project to properly synchronize audio in emulators then evolved into a very portable package of libraries with a variety of other features. I don’t really see how someone could have trouble using it but it isn’t for everyone

>>6679414
the syncing is by far the single best reason to use it
after many years of messing with emulators, i'd come to just accept that input lag and av sync issues were just an unavoidable fact of life with emulation, like there was something about emulating another system that prevented them from running as smooth as the original console
i bet this even contributes to people who hate emulation, they never felt the same as the original systems

then come these faggots, with their perfect vsync, resampling audio to match it, putting actual effort into bring input latency down to near or actually nothing, etc
now emulators actually do feel just like the original systems

... and people think it's just a shitty rom picker
welp.

>>6679469
Which is why these threads baffle me. People shit on it and refuse to use it because the UI is garbage, when you can just skip the UI altogether and still get all of it's intended features that just shit on standalone emulation

>>6679478
before this, while i did use emulators a bit, i did generally prefer original hardware, because as good as they were, they would always remind you you're using an emulator, an audio crackle here, a tear there, a hitch somewhere else, the audio only little behind the graphics... no biggie...
i thought i'd stopped caring, but this reminded me that i did still care, because i can play games in this for hours and totally forget i'm using an emulator, it feels just right. i can't believe how long we accepted such poor output from previous emulators

i hate to sound like i'm gushing, but it really is a big deal

>>6679509
ps. don't think i'm shitting on the work of standalone emulator devs, they still of course actually made the emulation work, retroarch isn't an emulator per-se, but a frontend and framework for emulators, retroarch handles all the input and output, while the cores do the actual emulation
this is perfect, now you can have high quality, consistent input and output across all your emulators, the emulator devs can focus on what they do best, and the frontend/IO devs can focus on what they do best

not sure why needing to learn a new ui is such a bother, you're going from needing to learn a ui per emulator to only needing to learn one ui for all your emulators, this is a step back how?

>>6679478
>>6679469
I am a new user, just got done getting it working on the switch.
The UI can be frustrating, and I'm pretty sure something's not right regarding the controls (I can easily work around it)
But the Runahead is pretty great, so it's fine by me.
And I can set remapping per game which is great.
The one thing I regret is we can't have audio latency as good, but oh well. Being able to play Mario World and Super Metroid hacks portably with low latency is something I thought was a pipe dream, so I'm pretty stoked.

Wish the Switch's buttons were tighter, but that's a hardware issue.

>>6673076
>Supposed to be a unifying solution that makes configuring everything easier.
>Actually makes everything a lot more cumbersome and difficult than literally just using the original gui and calling people who complain retarded.

>>6679759
>Supposed to be a unifying solution
That was never its goal though. Retards just spouted this because they think it's some kind of launcher.

the best thing about using retroarch is knowing that it filters so many plebs

>>6679509
>because as good as they were, they would always remind you you're using an emulator, an audio crackle here, a tear there, a hitch somewhere else, the audio only little behind the graphics...
get a decent PC and stop using shitty emulators

>>6679879

I'm sitting on an i9 9900k and no other emulator does proper 100% synching as well as running cores in retroarch. At least none that I've used. Even the shitty Dolphin core runs smooth as butter where as standalone dolphin has constant frame jitters even when running full speed

>>6679912
I've 0 issues with image sync in either dolphin core or standalone, seems like a problem with vsync/vrr configuration in your drivers/emu.

>>6679759
>all these gui-less emulators have original guis
fucking retard

>>6679916
I've used multiple systems with multiple monitors. There's always slight screen hitching with standalone. I'm going to assume you're just not particularly sensitive to it

>>6679929
I'm extremely sensitive to any kind of jitter or stutter and I'm telling with the utmost degree of certainty that dolphin standalone doesn't have any trouble syncing to display's refresh rate and outputting perfectly paced frames.

>>6679916
You just don’t understand the actual issue and are not sensitive. Retroarch, MAME, Kawaks and Neorage are the only programs that do synching properly at all. Retroarch is the only program that does audio and video and does it automatically and on nearly any setup. With almost no overhead.

>>6679942
>Retroarch, MAME, Kawaks and Neorage are the only programs that do synching properly at all.
You clearly don't understand what you're talking about.

>>6679953
They’re the only programs that allow you to synch video properly without hitched frames. Retroarch does it automatically the others do not. There’s probably other more obscure arcade emulators that do but these are the programs I am aware of that allow that.

>>6679953
Not him but care to elaborate anon?

>>6679940
Then tell me your wizardry because I straight can't get the stand alone to run smoothly. I'm running the most current beta build (I've used stable as well, same issue), trying to play Super Monkey Ball (at native res) and despite running at a constant 60 I get a frame hitch every 20 seconds or so, No option seems to resolve it. I'm on a GTX 1080, I've updated and reinstalled drivers, I've tried setting my monitor to both 60 and 120hz, no dice

>>6679986
>I get a frame hitch every 20 seconds or so
This doesn't seem like a sync problem. Does the hitch manifest itself on the frametime graph? (picture for reference). If it does, it's probably shader stutter. Try async ubershaders with vulkan if you haven't so already. And turn on vsync in dolphin and vrr in your drivers of course.

>>6680045
No, the hitch doesn't register. And typically with shader caching issues the entire game locks up for a second with slight audio distortion or freezing which doesn't happen here. I'm literally just sitting in the first stage and rotating the camera and consistently every 20 or so seconds it hitches. The consistency in its timing is what makes me think it's a frame syncing issue

And again, running the core and retorarch (which I don't like to do because the core is pretty lacking overall), it runs smooth as butter. no issues whatsoever

If you hear some people talking about it it seems like the most complex piece of software ever. I seriously wonder what these people normally do with their computers.
Then again, I often saw comments on emulation/ROM sites which go like "how do I open this weird rar file", so technical expertise appears to be in short supply in that scene.

>>6678984
people who complain about the UI dont have a hard time starting games. Retroarch is just annoying when you want to configure options a lot for your emulators

>>6676945
>You can though, set a core override after adjustment of setting, you can do this for each core separately from the default, any options that you want individually you set core override
Shouldnt that be turned on by default? Its just bizarre to me how retroarch thinks that people would want similar settings between different cores.

>>6673076
It's the best thing that hapened to emulation in the last couple of years. People against it are either butthurt devs from other emulators or literal sub 90IQ retards.

>>6681957
t. literal sub 90IQ retard

>>6681967
t. butthurt mamedev

>>6681975
because mame totally competes with retroarch, right?

>>6681979
It's not about competition, it's about autistic idiosyncrasies

>>6681982
>it's about autistic idiosyncrasies
thats the problem with both retroarch and mame

So frens. What cores you using and what games you playin?
Currently enjoying the BSNES HD features and playing demon's crest and mega man X collection.

>>6682179
babes mercury accuracy and halfway done with final fantasy II.

>>6673076
It is pretty good, as someone that plays in his bed far away from the TV it is a blessing having everything in one place and controllable with a joystick. Also having every feature in every core makes it the best way to play some of these systems, since most standalones don't have as much features as RA. It definitely has a lot of problems tho, but for me it's the best way to emulate things up to the 5th gen.

>>6682179
I recently finished playing paper mario with Parallel it was a fucking blast

>>6682179
Recently played through Earthbound via the nSide Balanced core and the MaternalBound Redux mod.
Fell in love with it all over again.

>>6673076
It's what I use since I've gotten back into gaming. Haven't had any complaints. I'm seeing a lot of posts about the UI here. I guess there's room for improvement, but it was pretty easy for me to grasp having been out of the loop for a long time.

>>6682461
>MaternalBound
The Earthbound series is the one of the first series to really tickle my tism at a very young age. One of my favorites but never looked into the mod scene. Would you ever go back to unmodded or does it improve it that much?

>>6682535
MB:R changes a lot of things, though my favorite thing is the run button.
I'll just link the github which as a list of changes.
https://github.com/ShadowOne333/MaternalBound-Redux

>>6679021
Some people read things. There's too much to read up on retroarch in comparison to other emulators.

>>6682562
retroarch has pretty sane defaults, you can get away with just reading up on the things you want to do
also, retroarch isn't an emulator, it's not like you need to read up all the options for all the cores to use retroarch

Is there any way to add rom hacks to retroarch besides making a separate playlist for them? I just want to be able to import them alongside all the other games.

>>6682663
Nope. The way Retroarch handles autistically scanning is what really holds it back. Absolute shit system

>>6682663
what is desktop menu
>>6682680
retard

>>6682680
i've been using retroarch for like, 4 years and don't even know what you mean by scanning

>>6682682
Can you elaborate please?

>>6682692
you can manually edit playlists via desktop menu in retroarch

>>6682697
and you can't via the main interface?

I find that while I could learn to use RetroArch properly, it doesn't seem like a worthwhile time investment. I'm generally satisfied with the standalone emulators available and I can get most up and running good enough in less than a minute. I don't care about the shaders, so unless it does something else really crazy awesome I'm set for now.

>>6684042
>I find that while I could learn to use RetroArch
Why do people think it is some sort of hard to learn program?
This shit is getting stupid now, it takes all of about 10 minutes to learn to use

>>6673230
>try having more than one controller
You kinda encounter that. Up + A on 2nd controller as a system command is common on NES, SNES and Genesis games.
Which means you might need to map those 2 buttons to somewhere on the keyboard.

But my favorites is still:
1. Silently crashing due errors with loading .zip or .7zip roms. Or .ziso.
2. No error message when it fails to save configs. If in doubt just nuke the config by removing lines
3. On most non memcard cores, it will only write to disc on a clean exit. If it crashes, or you crash it(i.e windows functions), you will lose progress. Very tempting to use save states to avoid the issue

>>6673747
The voice of reason.

>>6684042
>I don't care about the shaders, so unless it does something else really crazy awesome I'm set for now.
I find it funny how many people are hung up on shaders when it's easily the least impressive feature.

>>6681952
>>6676640
Because core overrides can and will bork config saving.
And the only way to fix it is to know what settings is added, where those config files are, and what the settings are called to nuke them.

>>6679509
>>6679912
Wish we got Dolphin or RPSC3 cores for Retroarch.
It would be a fucking savage mess due all the internal on/off toggles for speedhacks, but the massive latency/sync/jitter improvements would be worth it.
Its already the case for PPSSPP vs standalone, massive gains.

>>6680045
>That framegraph
Ew

>>6684252
Nobody actually uses runahead because it doesn't actually work.

>>6684275
I use it because it does actually work.

>>6684275
Imagine being this much of a retard.

The only thing which doesn't actually work at the moment for me is the cheevos function. Is it legitimately broken or am I just dumb? Somehow I can't log in over RA.

>>6684325
No it’s not just you, some cores aren’t registering with retro achievements

>>6684325
Works for me.
>>6684421
Not every core supports retroachievements

>>6684431
They did previously though, I have gotten achievements on bsnes before but now aren’t registering at all

i don't know, i like the layout and having all my emulation in one place and i LOVE blargg NTSC shader but--as a poorfag--on my beloved years-old laptop it just doesn't run as well as other standalone emulators. any tips would be appreciated but i think that's just the way she's meant to be

>>6684431
>Works for me.
Could you tell me which core you were trying? I tried SNES9x 2010, NEStopia and Beetle PSX since I heard they added achievements for Playstation.

>>6684448
RA has some nice power saving cores for weaker mobile devices. Depends on what you're trying to emulate though.

>>6684448
Bizhawk is an all in one core based emulator that works a thousand times better than retrofart

>>6684449
Using bsnes mercury balanced and nestopia, I know they work because I just tried it.

>>6684465
Bizhawk uses the same cores as RetroArch so the system requierements are the same.

>>6684465
>that works a thousand times better than retrofart
Awful shilling

>>6684470
>>6684472

>>6684490
Epic !!! XD

>>6684472
It's okay for speedrun trannies. But let's be real, most people don't do TAS.

>>6684268
it isn't supposed to be a flat line, gamecube doesn't work that way

>>6684256
the core options page just need to support submenus and it'll be golden

>>6684256
>Its already the case for PPSSPP vs standalone, massive gains.
i need to try that, one game i want to play is project: diva, but it's a rhythm game, so naturally was unplayable due to poor latency and audio being out of sync

Is the Play! core usable? I'm sick of PCSX2

>>6684256
Dolphin is in RetroArch though, I was just playing it yesterday

>>6684587
No

>>6684587
Whats wrong with PCSX2

>>6684609
>>6684587
>>6684583
>>6684601
>>6684605
getting off topic here

>>6684616
not really, they're talking about, or inciting people to talk about specific (potential) cores of retroarch, that is, while they are about the emulators, the context is about their retroarch ports
it's relevant

>>6673707
Byuu got doxxed for far less...

>>6673707
wtf I love retroarch now

>>6673707
i honestly couldn't care less about politics

>>6684438
nevermind, realised that I changed to standard BSNES core because it has more options

>>6684667
being a cunt to your userbase isn't "politics"

>>6684670
cry more

>>6684670
i'm reading through them anyway out of curiosity, since i don't know anything about them
first link was a bust, didn't see any poor behaviour there

>>6682569
But if you read up on every single core and try each of them out before familiar with the entire thing how long would that take and how much bigger a filesize is the entire thing in comparison to a small pile of stand alones?

>>6684681
it's cunts that get upset when someone doesn't do what they want then they go to discord and raid or try to cancel people
it's happened many times

>>6684684
i have no idea, there's a ton of cores, most of which i will never use
retroarch is like 11MiB, and the cores are no bigger than the standalone versions, i doubt anyone will have trouble with it's size

>>6684453
any suggestion for some good low-spec cores for gba and snes emulation? ps1 as well (doubtful though i am that there's a good low-spec one for that)

>>6684713
both beetle/mednafen psx and bsnes

>>6684713
SNES has a few, depending on how toasty your machine is. Try SNES9x 2005. Dunno about GBA
>>6684716
I wouldn't call those low-spec cores

>>6684716
>guy asks for low spec cores
>recommend the most demanding ones

>>6684721
they run on my dads 10 year old laptop without slowdown
if you're running something older than that, stick to ZSNES

>>6684726
Not the point dumbass.

>>6684726
Or he could pick SNES9x 2002, which is miles ahead of ZSNES but runs on similar trash hardware.

>>6684732
>>6684719
thanks, fellas. these work very well

>>6684770
For PSX you can try DuckStation (needs bios files in the retroarch/system folder), it's a relatively new core so I can't vouch for the compatibility. For GBA try mGBA.

>>6684448
in addition to this, any suggestions for what video driver to use? i assume gl is the best one for lo-spec

thoughts on mesen?

>>6674552
Same. It just works. Nice to look at too.

>>6685023
Macfags deserve the rope

>>6684695
im not trying to "cancel" anyone
being a cunt simply means i wont be giving you my money like i do with other projects
and i certainly will warn others of your behaviour so they're aware and can make an informed decision
>>6684681
>instead of complaining, start contributing…
posted by a "senior member" on a fucking help forum
it certainly isn't the worst on that list, but it's something i remembered and was able to easily find again

>>6685050
This whole post reeks of so much faggotry it's not even funny.

>>6685108
why don't you explain why you feel that way instead of hitting the fag macro on your keyboard

>>6685050
kill yourself my dude

>>6685113
if it means i never have to deal with no-argument retards like you again it just might be too tempting to resist

>>6685110
>and i certainly will warn others of your behaviour so they're aware and can make an informed decision
Like most people even care about what the devs say, they just want to use the software. You, on the other hand, got so pissy about the devs that you feel the need to dissuade other people from using their software just because you feel angwy. Sad, really.

>>6685125
>you feel the need to dissuade other people from using their software
when have i ever advocated for that in this thread, retard
i dont care if people use retroarch or not, and i use it myself as my primary emulator on PC
im just not sending them money
why does that make you irrationally upset?

>>6685136
If that's the case then why do you feel the need to "warn" other users for osmething that isn't even a problem? You sound like a faggy sjw
>why does that make you irrationally upset?
Ironic

I just installed it. It took me a while to figure out. I've finally got it up and running but I'm still confused about where to input the diagonals. Any help?

>>6685143
You don't. They will register if you press up and left for example

>>6685136
>when have i ever advocated for that in this thread
>and i certainly will warn others of your behaviour so they're aware and can make an informed decision
You have some short term memory there pal

>>6673076
The UI is the most counter-intuitive mess I've ever encountered in my life.

>>6685149
I'm amazed you were able to post this

>>6685142
>why do you feel the need to "warn" other users for osmething that isn't even a problem
because ive been burned before. anyone who shows theyre incapable of criticism is clearly volatile to some degree.
look at byuu/near; he chimped out regularly for years and now it looks like he's finally gone for good
i also don't like rewarding people for being cunts
if you have a problem with it, you can fuck right off
>>6685148
>i wont be giving you my money like i do with other projects
>i certainly will warn others of your behaviour so they're aware and can make an informed decision
you've got some awful reading comprehension there pal
>>6685152
someone's getting defensive; tell me daniel, when are you turning off google alerts so you can get back to fixing the UI? this isn't healthy for you

>>6685149
i agree with you and i dont understand why people act like they are so smart for thinking its fine

ive been playing emulators for a long time. P64, snex9x, fusion. and retroarch is so fucking weird. its not at all how an emulator feels like it should be used. i think what throws me off is how retroarch feels like more than just a core launcher but rather the options are embedded into it. imagine if steam, more than just launching games, had options that impacted the games a lot. and when you wanted to change options in a specific games, it opened a steam general menu.

thats what retroarch feels like. just strange and unintuitive. i wish it felt more like just a launcher for cores and you could totally forget about the retroarch platform itself, and i wish each core had a window with menus like P64 or something. ideally retroarch should feel like a launcher for completely separate emulators. instead its like it wants all its cores to have similar options unless you override it (?). fucking weird

>>6685157
>inb4
HAHA RETARD BABY LEARN TO USE A COMPUTER CHUMP

>>6685157
>i think what throws me off is how retroarch feels like more than just a core launcher
That's because it literally is more than a core launcher.
> i wish it felt more like just a launcher for cores and you could totally forget about the retroarch platform itself,
Again, you're missing the whole point, brainlet.

>>6685169
Fucking called it. >>6685163

>>6685172
I know you, you probably even saved that amirite.gif a couple of weeks ago when you were shitposting about retroarchbad and I called you off lmao. Get good.

>>6685157
>retroarch feels like more than just a core launcher
Because it is. It's not meant as a convienent tool to pack your emulators under one hood but more like an autism machine for fine tuning every emulator/game

I don't know where this weird launcher notion comes from. Get Maximus Arcade if you want stuff like this.

>>6685169
>>6685178
why the fuck would anyone want more than just a core launcher though. like thats what i dont get about this

>>6685178
Since retroarch is considered a frontend to the libretro api brainlets think it should act as your other frontends/rom launchers like emulation station launchbox etc.

>>6685175
the last time i said anything about retroarch was probably 2 months ago at the least; maybe if you provide a link it might refresh my memory ;)
wait, so are you admitting youve got google alerts turned on? this is a huge step in admitting you have a problem daniel! im so proud of you.

>>6685157
Have you ever edited a config file or an ini?
Have you ever set launch options In steam?
Have you ever created a custom controller config in steam?
They are all options there, maybe your just not used to non windows dropdown menus for a UI

>>6685183
Because standalone emulator frontends have shitty audio/video sync and terrible input latency.

>>6685189
i dont need to create controller configs in steam, when i can config the controls in each individual game

why is this concept lost on retroarch. why do they assume people want general controls for every core?

>>6685187
>hurdurr everyone is daniel
>;)
Yeah you're that faggot that got so assblasted with ra for some reason that he feels the need to shitpost everytime it's mentioned.

>>6685195
>why is this concept lost on retroarch.
I don't see how having more freedom is a bad thing.
>why do they assume people want general controls for every core?
For several reasons, setting default options for every gamepad and then making adjustments as needed with cfg overrides allows you so much more freedom but again, you're a brainlet foccused on your one usecase and you fail to see the benefits for other use cases.

>>6685163
>>6685169
>>6685189
I use retroarch and know the UI well. Not sure why you guys defend it its probably the worst UI I have ever used. Emulator options handled through retroarch is fucking horrible. Same with simply selecting shaders and everything else. Once you get everything running thats when it becomes convenient but its a hassle to set up for each game. I could shit a better UI

>>6685215
Explain why you think it's the worst UI you have ever used.
I think it mostly comes down to all the features and options it has to offer, there really isn't a simple way to cram so many options in a super intuitive noob friendly UI. So yeah I prefer having it slightly unintuitive for brainlets while keeping all the features. The team's biggest mistake was to start catering it for normies.

>>6685230
>there really isn't a simple way to cram so many options in a super intuitive noob friendly UI. So yeah I prefer having it slightly unintuitive for brainlets while keeping all the features.
Pretty much this

>>6685230
This. It's liek saying that planes suck because they have so many knobs and buttons, they should only have an accelarator and stick.

>>6685230
If I ever want to change the settings on the game it is significantly harder through retroarch than with just the standalone emulator. I see the appeal for retroarch as a game station for your kids or something, not something for detailed turbo autists

It's an okay frontend. I dislike its weird "terminal" look that comes out of the box but there are other skins. Other than that I find it pretty useful. I would never use it on a PC, only on a dedicated gaming device like a RetroPie.

>>6685256
? every core has quick menu for individual tweaks, the system settings are over arching for the frontend
I don't understand how people think it's hard or bad

>>6685256
>If I ever want to change the settings on the game it is significantly harder through retroarch than with just the standalone emulator.
But it isn't, you can even have game specific settings that only change what you need for that game.
> I see the appeal for retroarch as a game station for your kids or something, not something for detailed turbo autists
Again, you're completely missing the point, if you want something for your kids to use you just use a frontend like emulationstation to make it easy to browse and nice to look at. Retroarch is literally for ricing turboautists. It's like you're on opposites day or something.

The best thing about Retroarch isn't mastering its setting but showing everyone online that I did by raiding their online sessions.

>>6685256
It's funny how the first part of your post completely contradicts the second part

>>6685261
>Again, you're completely missing the point, if you want something for your kids to use you just use a frontend like emulationstation to make it easy to browse and nice to look at
which uses Retroarch for its emulation out of the box anyway.

>>6685283
>which uses Retroarch for its emulation out of the box anyway.
You're conflating emulationstation with retropie, but that's to be expected you have 0 knowledge about all this.

>>6685282
>>6685261
I must have articulated my point wrong. I'm saying retroarch would be a good set up for kids that can use the playstation UI and select games. Kids dont care about emulator options and shaders they don't know any better so the horrible UI won't impact them.

The only real negative is that you need a good PC if you want to use options which actually make retroarch special. It's a very special feeling seeing your 8700k choking on a PSX game because you cranked up those latency options too high.

>>6685298
Stop trying anon, the more you post the more obvious it becomes you're a brainlet
>playstation UI
It's called xmb.
>Kids dont care about emulator options and shaders they don't know any better so
That's why you should use a frontend like ES or launchbox if you're setting any emulator up for kids, they just have to look at the pictures and select a game.
>the horrible UI won't impact them.
You really are fucking dumb.

>>6676373
mame plus fixes most of mame devs autism. Wished you could just add cores to mame instead of dealing with retro shit.

>>6676373
>retroarch is just a frontend for various emulators
Imagine really believing something as retarded as this.
>but retroarch's is held back by its lead devs retarded ideals that no one else shares
Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean other people don't, I'v ebeen using retroarch since 2015 or so and to me everything makes sense as it is.

>>6685317
>Wished you could just add cores to mame instead of dealing with retro shit.
Do you even know what cores are? So you're basically saying you want libretro cores working on mame? You obviously have no idea how any of this works. If you really like mame that much why don't you use MESS?

>>6685309
>It's called xmb.
literally the same thing
>>6685326
>Imagine really believing something as retarded as this.
this is what retroarch is described as on its website
at this point, you have to be trolling. no one is really this dense, are they?
>Just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean other people don't
you took the words right out of my mouth; you see how many other people are bitching about the UI just in this thread? if that doesn't tell you there's a problem that should be solved, i don't know how else to reach you

>>6685391
>if that doesn't tell you there's a problem that should be solved, i don't know how else to reach you
lol, why?
why must everything be dumbed down further so people that can't learn a basic as fuck GUI get access to something that they don't even want
stick to whatever shit you use and stop trying to start shit

>>6685421
>dumbed down
you smug retards feign superiority because you're autistic enough to like a shit UI.

>>6685430
>smug
no ones smug you retard just take 10 fucking minutes to learn a program, jesus christ

Retroarch isn't about being a frontend, it's about the input latency and video/audio synching features it has. Anyone arguing against retroarch because you don't want a frontend is retarded

Until standalone emulators get runahead and the same smooth synching capabilities cores in retroarch have, retroarch cores are straight superior emulation option for retro consoles

>>6685528
not to mention a lot of shit just runs better and scaled better too

>>6685391
Yes they call it a frontend but it's not the type of frontend you think it is faggot, it's way more low level than your regular rom launcher frontends, fuck, you're dense.

>>6686215
many years ago i tried this multi-emulator frontend called hyperspin, it's a 10-foot/cabinet launcher with graphics and sounds and all that, but it just launches existing emulators
i quickly found it a waste of time, considering i was not making a cabinet
it seems like some people think retroarch is like this, just a fancy launcher for cabinets or consoles
it's not. it does that, too, but you can be sure anyone using it on a pc is not using it for that, it's such a small part of it for me that i don't even set it up as a launcher (i haven't bothered setting up paths or scanning libraries or however you do it)

>>6686235
Yeah since they call it a frontend, noobs think it's a frontend like hyperspin/ES/launchbox etc. The thing is Retroarch is a frontend to the libretro API not a rom launcher like it seems these noobs want it to be, then they whine all over th eplace saying lmao shit UI. Again, the team's biggest mistake was to start catering for these sub 90 IQ brainlets

>>6686238
it is a frontend, just works in a very different way
things like hyperspin is a rom-browsing frontend that launches external emulators which work completely separate to hyperspin and work the same with or without hyperspin

retroarch on the other hand, is a frontend for the libretro api, as you mentioned, which emulators (and other kinds of programs) are written for or modified to suit
libretro cores do not function on their own, they just take the inputs and provide the outputs, they do just the processing
retroarch, as with any other potential libretro frontend, handles all the I/O, controllers inputs, video and audio outputs, etc
not only does it unify I/O settings between cores, it performs this job better than most if not any standalone emulator frontend (yes, even standalone emulators have their own frontends unless it's purely a library, all a frontend is is a way for a human to send information to a program and receive a result)
the fact it does I/O better than most anything else is the reason to use retroarch. a rom picker is just a nice optional extra

>>6677435
Nailed it. A lot of retro "gamers" here enjoy discussing retro games, and collecting them, but can't actually bring themselves to sit down and play through them.

>>6686215
>Yes they call it a frontend
indeed they do
>but it's not the type of frontend you think it is faggot
i said it was a frontend; when did i state anything more or less?
>it's way more low level than your regular rom launcher frontends
no shit? do you think anyone who actually uses retroarch for shaders or runahead doesn't know this?

>>6673769
I just downloaded Dolphin 5.0 and opened SCII and it immediately works without any plugin setup.

>>6673802
The fact that it doesn't save it's settings automatically is inexcusable.

>>6686989
>save settings that make RA crash automatically
>can't change them back

>>6686989
You don't want to save brick settings anon.
The problem comes in when you modify your setup, and you don't do a clean exit after a long session.

RetroArch is the best. People have a cry it seems complex but it's really not. Nothing else is close.

>>6687520
OpenEmu has a much better UI than RetroArch, but it's Mac only and also lacks a lot of extra features compared to RA.
I use RetroArch on my desktop because I do use those extra features often, but the nicest way I can say it would be that many UI decisions don't seem to make much sense.
OpenEmu "just werks" if you just want to play video games. Has some nice shaders too.

>>6687520
It's not complex, its convoluted.

why is the retropad even necessary? why cant you just directly assign buttons like every other emulator ever?

>>6687902
Because you're too dumb to understand it

>>6687902
It allows you to map several different controllers to the retropad which in turn maps to the emulated consoles, it's not as simple as other emulators but allows for more freedom

>>6687902
???
As far as I know you can. Its always automapped any controller I've connected, then just open a core and you can map everything exactly like you'd do it with a standalone. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean

Lads I just installed RA with a Genesis Plus GX, which actually does accurate FM synthesis

I am playing Streets of Rage 2 with accurate sound through my 2020 home stereo system and it's an experience I have been trying to recreate since 1993 when my older brother's friend hooked up my Model 1 to his hi-fi system.

Indescribable feels.

>>6688168
Same, I used to boot up SoR2 on RA and use the osundtest has a music player.

>>6688176

based.

When the hell did someone come up with accurate Model 1 sound? I've been waiting for that for literally decades.

Also I found out Yuzo Koshiro is still playing clubs, and has a SoR2 set that he does, so now I have a new bucket list item

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW03QgubN0M

>>6688176
>as
>soundtest

>>6688189
Yeah I've seen a couple of his shows on youtube, good shit.

This one and Dreamer are probably my favorite tracks but it's hard to tell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeloqt4Wkcw

>>6688205

Excellent taste Anon

I myself am of the position that there's no bad track on SoR2, but the boss and alien music especially slap

Setting up Retroarch properly is a zen affair. It takes time, patience, and a good PC to work with. On Android, it's the only option for a lot of things, and on PC, it's a great way to ave time.

For example, where else can you setup your android machine to run the original MSX2 versions of Metal Gear?

The real secret to getting Retroarch working is to put every single motherfucking BIOS ever created into one folder, and point Retroarch at that folder for BIOSes. You'd be shocked how many things just start working, like famicon disk games, MSX stuff, PSX. This is like 99% of the reason people have trouble running games in Retroarch.

There's a ton of stuff that will crash fro otehr reasons and may need external emulators, but for 80% of stuff out there, this is the way to go. IT's also the only way to fast forward on all these systems, which is essential for old JRPGs. PSX fast forward doesn't even exist anywhere else, sadly.

>>6688214
Yeah those are a bit harder and maybe a bit more experimental I would say but yeah there's not one bad track in the entire game.

>>6673076
No, I enjoy using it but it has some questionable shit and a bunch of quirks, like for example some cores lacking settings present in standalone versions, or cores that are just downright broken. However, every time I see this shit "discussed" here there is one guy with a legit complain for every 30 retards nitpicking something or seething because they can't figure out one super simple setting.
Niggle me this, why are you emulating (or playing ancient games for that matter) if you are gonna shit the bed the moment something goes wrong or requires the tiniest amount of tweaking?

>>6674392
I can't get the Amiga core to work either but ScummVM works fine, also the Dosbox-SVN core runs better than any standalone version of dosbox I have ever tried. With some games you can just directly open the .exe but its better if you load up the .conf file.
If you want to use the keyboard, change the device type to "Keyboard + Mouse" and disable the hotkeys.

>>6687902
Its a abstraction for autoconfig, since each console uses its own snowflake layout.
Nothing more, and nothing less

>>6688168
yeah the low pass filter is fucking great

>>6674025
Dumb zoomie.

Retroarch is nice in someways but it is very frustrating in others. Apart from the horible UI, I have had other issues. The latest being that upon reboot this morning all my cores are gone. I have a pc I have been using offline for emulation. I am going to drag it over to the router, plug it in and try to reinstall the cores. Say what you will about individual emulators but, for me atleast, they have always "just werked".

>>6689635
uhhm maybe try not to accidentally delete cores folder next time sweety?

>>6689642
I assure you this did not happen.

>>6673890
>implying that I'm not the only poster in this thread

>>6678717
>>6678738
>>6678767
Actual brainlet here, how do you change the interface? I'm still stuck wit the shitty PS3 one.

has anybody actually tried the netplay thing?

>>6673120
Retroarch now has cores better than some standalones. PS1 for me better on RA

>>6689914
drivers -> ui

>>6689918
Yes and it works great.

>>6689914
Go to input, then into online tools, into auto-update features, into dilation measurement settings, into notepad functions, into time/date, into opening up your pc and copying the serial number of your cpu, into report Harrassment Reports, into Social Media connections, into JUST download and use anything else really.

I prefer mednafen with mednaffe frontend

>>6689937
so what did you end up playing? was it with somebody you know and you coordinated with, or just a random stranger who joined whatever you started? i haven't messed with it

>>6689928
>have hated this for years
>literally took 30 seconds to fix
Thanks anon!

>>6689914
Press F11. It's a key on the keyboard. The keyboard is the rectangular thing in front of the computer screen. The computer screen is the thing your eyes look at when you use the computer.
You press the F11 key with your finger, in a downward motion. Next, release. This means move your finger in an upward motion so that the key is no longer being pressed down. It should pop back up. You should have the key pressed down for just a brief moment, less than a second, before raising your finger and releasing the key. This complex, highly secret shortcut will reveal the other interface.
But my question is how do retards like you even get out of bed in the morning? How did you even find this website?

>>6689949

I got a mate and we gone through a few things. Donkey Kong, Secret of Mana, some Neo Geo games etc.

I've joined random as well or had people join me. As long as you got same roms it's no problems, and everyone using the same noIntro complete sets now etc.

>>6673806
>X software is shit, we should make it better
>NO IT'S YOU WHO IS TOO STUPID TO USE IT
This is why L*nux is not used by anybody other than autists.

>>6689914
Press F5. It's a key on the keyboard. The keyboard is the rectangular thing in front of the computer screen. The keys are the little button things on it that have writing on them. The computer screen is the thing your eyes look at when you use the computer.
You press the F5 key with your finger, in a downward motion. Next, release. This means move your finger in an upward motion so that the key is no longer being pressed down. It should pop back up. You should have the key pressed down for just a brief moment, less than a second, before raising your finger and releasing the key. This complex, highly secret shortcut will reveal the other interface.
But my question is how do retards like you even get out of bed in the morning? How did you even find this website?

>>6690018
what's a computer?

>>6690014
Retroarch is fucking easy though, it has a lot of settings but by default they all mostly fine.
I set integer scale, gsync, it autobinds all my controllers.
Just load some content and pick the correct core it really is not hard. Beyond that it's just scanning content into a playlist and going through all the main settings see if anything applies to you.

It's a perfectly fine frontend - for consoles.

>>6690047
Yeah it works great with a controller. There is a Desktop menu by the way

its beyond confusing to me how often in the "core specific" settings it will lack options for resolution/aspect ratio (???). fucking why?

>>6690020
What race is this creature

>>6673575
>skeletonkey
THANKS ANON!

>>6690060
What?
It’s all in scaling and you can set it to whatever resolution you want

>>6690063
They is an American.

>>6689881
lol based

The translation tool is really, REALLY good.

>>6673076
For most systems it supports yes.
>>6673120
>Interlace is clunky and not user friendly.
Which one? there are like 6 to choose from.

>>6690279
in the general retroarch options yes, but not core specific

>>6688168
Just to prove you all that S.0.yp.od needs its face melted to be better

>>6690904
yes it does, every one of my cores has individual resolution

What is the best way to install retroarch on Ubuntu

>>6690904
You can save settings per core and it will auto adjust settings whenever you load a game. All of my cores have their own resolutions, aspect ratios and scaling settings