/vr/ - Retro Games

>fat man on youtube told me to buy crt

People will literally pay you to take them away from their house

Who the fuck buys a CRT

>>6667970
This. If you must pay don't spend more than $20.

>>6667593
For modern gaming probably the FW-900, but for Dreamcast VGA any free PC monitor is gonna look fine.

>>6667970
a pc crt monitor will very likely have shitloads of burn in at this point because nobody knew the actual purpose of screen savers

>CRT
>RGB
thats some ultra söylent

>>6668072
i just want one for ps2 the best cheapest crt

what you want is new old stock so it won't have shitloads of burn in

>>6668138
>That modern PC owner face

>>6668143
Check your local craigslist/facebook market and look for the best tv you can find for free/low price. If you pay more than $30 you're being scammed to take someone else's trash. Don't search for retro, vintage, gaming, or even CRT because it'll likely all be overpriced. Use basic terms like TV or older manufactures like Zenith, Orion, JVC, Philips etc. You can search for Samsung or Sony, but you'll likely need to filter through a lot of LCD. If you want something with component look for Gray/Silver casing CRT, they're usually later models trying to copy the popular WEGA design Sony had for their late model CRT.

If you're gaming on anything less than a sony qualia 015, then you aren't truly enjoying games

>>6668147
This. Recently picked up a 2070SB from a surplus sale and it was brand new, tape still on the box and 0 hours in the service menu.

>>6668224
I would avoid WEGA models if you plan to play any 240p content, as the way they handle it introduces input lag.

>>6668143
Shouldn't be too hard, but I would try to find something with component video. Lots of flat tube models have it, but they tend to have shittier geometry than curved tubes.

>>6667593
>>widescreen

>>6668138
>>rgb badmeme poster again

>>6669101
Any TV in good condition will have working geometry controls which you can correct issues with.

>>6669107
Explain why anyone should care about RGB.

>>6667593
You can find CRT for free.
Saw one dumbass trying to sell one for 200$ bucks,it had component and was definitely desirable but 200$ ??? I would have paid 40bucks maximum but it didnt even had the remote control.
Also know a guy on all sorts of drugs who ruined a perfectly good crt thinking there was a microphone inside.this makes me sad a little.

>>6669117
True but 9 times out of 10 you will still have issues. Service menu adjustments can't fix design flaws and caps going bad. I use a flat tube myself, just saying curved tubes are usually more forgiving.

>>6669125
It's better than composite. Take your MS paint comics back to /v/, faggot.

>>6669607
If caps are going out of spec then it's not in good condition. If curved CRT TVs had better input options I'd use one but around the time component became commonplace every tube ended up with a flat screen.

Just buy a retrotink who the fuck has room for a CRT

>>6669620
t. still living with parents

>>6669617
You can get curved screens with component, I got one 2 weeks ago

>>6669614
You just posted söy bro.

>>6669614
I plug the composite cable into the monitor and it displays the game. How is it better?

>>6668147
Where can you actually find them though?

Crts are awesome given you can get your hands on ones that are still fresh.

>>6667593
I think you meant hrt.

>>6668120
[citation needed]

>>6667593
The ones you don't have to buy are the best, or the ones that are dirt cheap.
The most I ever paid for one was $10 but I didn't really care at the time, although it was a bit old so I wasn't crazy about the price either. It did have a working VCR and I used to watch tons of my anime tapes on it and it was pretty nice. Found a nicer one a couple years later that had a DVD player and its been my main one ever since. PVMs are really nice and I envy those who got one for free or for a really cheap price, but they're kind of a pain to scout for unless you know someone or some place that carries them or get extremely lucky. I'm content with mine, I always play my N64 on it and my setup is mildly reminiscent to when I was younger in my old house playing N64 as a wee lad so I enjoy the experience, N64 games on an HD TV is a pretty awful experience and all the weird work around and alternatives to display the console on modern TVs is either shit or expensive or both.

>>6668120
>because nobody knew the actual purpose of screen savers
M8, everyone knows what they're for.

>>6669617
this>>6669662
and me too, off craigslist I got a toshiba 27a41 curved crt with component made in 2002 - pic related

>>6669101
>I would avoid WEGA models if you plan to play any 240p content, as the way they handle it introduces input lag.
Fuck you talking about?

>>6669617
Could always get one with VGA input and linedouble/transcode everything to that, you can even do that all without a framebuffer so it'll be lag-free.
A surprising amount of late-model CRTs have VGA input.
Though another option is to just use composite/s-video. You might think it looks like shit but that's because you're using the outputs on your consoles. RGB converted to composite can look much much better than the composite out of your console if you're using even a mediocre quality converter.

literally just buy whatever you find. you're long past the point of being able to "track down" one of the "grail" CRTs for anything resembling a sensible price anymore.

>>6670424
You can still find them, but the only ones that are going to be free are cheap massive ones that require two people to move and are way too big to ship. Everything else is going to be resold by scalpers. The holy grails are still going to be expensive as shit regardless of size.

>>6669626
Hah nah, weirdly if I still lived at home I think it would be easier to have a CRT in the bedroom.
I just live in an apartment in a big city

>>6667593
Ban all MemeRT threads

>>6670424
>>6670441
If you pound the pavement with Craigslist/Facebook Marketplace/Thrift Stores you can easily find a good one with a little bit of patience. It might take a few months but by no means is it impossible and its well worth it if you're gonna have the TV for years

>>6670003
Lookin good anon
Mine is a CN27V71, made in 1999.

>>6670749
I was lucky enough to get one from a friend for free, but when my PC CRT monitor that I owned for years died I just bit the bullet and overpaid for one of the higher end ones. I think it was around $100 or so. There was no way I was going back to Thief on a fucking LCD.

>>6670746
ban zoomers from this board

Curved of flat?

>>6672479
I like my women how I like my CRTs: curvy and with a 4:3 aspect ratio.

>>6672494
Based /architect/

>>6672494
Top-tier stealth fatty lover post.

Do you prefer your CRT's soft or with a lot of muscle?

Flat CRTs are a fad. I don't care how many early 2000s Trinitrons people call the "greatest consumer CRT ever" if you're not playing on a curved screen you may as well be playing on an LCD.

>>6673357
>if you're not playing on a curved screen you may as well be playing on an LCD
Objectively stupid opinion. Screen curvature is such a non-issue and nothing more than personal preference. Inb4 muh lightguns

>>6668120
poor fags, cant afford new old stock. god i love being rich.

>>6673641
I'll be honest. The screen curving is pretty sexy. I miss my old PC CRT which had it. My new one is flat and it is missing a lot of soul.

You want a NEC XM29. Guy on another forum said he'd sell all four of his for $10,000 (srs). Won't part with 1 at a time though (says he's rebuilding some muscle car)

>>6673985
>NEC XM29
TFW
Except when you put it next to a consumer Toshiba CRT and it doesn't look as good. But buy a NEC XM29! Or a Sony BVM! For retro game consoles! And hook it up with RGB! Fucking retard.

>>6673995
Fuck off already you cancer.

>>6673995
Can't speak for the XM29, but I have the XM37 and its picture is better than any consumer set I've seen.

>>6667593
As long as it does 60 hz and doesnt have burn in or yellowing/blueing theyre all the same. Only autists suggest otherwise.

>>6674042
60hz was a low refresh rate back then. Cheap 14/15" monitors would run at that. Most good 15/17" monitors would do 70-75 at 1280x1024 in the mid to late 90s and in the late 90s to early 00s you could get 19" monitors that would do that (and probably 1600x1200 at 60hz).

>>6673357
This

>>6674051
The problem here is games start to look pixelated and sterile again. Its like playing on a lcd

>>6673641
You notice your crt starts more and more looking like a lcd

I recently got an old vga monitor and everytime I turn it on there's a weird smell coming out of it. How do I find out if its ozone? I'm not familiar with the smell of chlorine, Is it supposed to smell like bleach?

>>6674203
I would take the plastic shell off and try to determine where its coming from.

>>6674041
>I have the XM37 and its picture is better than any consumer set I've seen
If you like the look of fake scanline shaders, sure

>>6669735
pretty much impossible outside of USA.

>>6674203
I have the same problem with my Dell e771p. It's not a distracting smell when playing but I do notice it whenever I switch it on.

>>6673641
Lightguns work on standard definition flat CRTs. What doesn't work is the basic geometry of the picture. The reason the tubes were curved to begin with is because the electron gun has to be perpendicular to every spot on the screen for the image to look right. When you flatten the face that fucks everything up.

>>6673985
This is the problem with professional monitors now. PVMs and shit made sense back when they were a hidden gem you could get cheap or free but now everybody gouges like crazy so you're paying $500 minimum for a 13in screen, defeating the entire purpose because while they look good they just aren't worth the price.

And it's gotten so bad that even regular bog standard mid-90s CRTs have "great for retro gaming!" plastered all over their craigslist listings. The cat is out of the bag and everyone is looking for their payday.

>>6668935
Where did you buy it from specifically?

>>6674243
>>6675063
I looked around and it smells very similar to what you get when putting your nose next to the exhaust from an electronic(checked with my ps4, switch and laptop), it's just stronger as my whole room permates with the odor if I leave my monitor on long enough. I'm sure now it's more likely to be dust than ozone. I'll buy some canned air, clean the inside as much as possible and check how it fairs.

are CRTs why boomers all have bad hearing?
They all emit a piercing tone that drives me crazy

>>6667593
you're going to pay 2000 bucks + shipping

>>6667593
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmtmWk3puGg&list=LLm03lBVu1M3FkhkoNm2KBTg&index=24&t=0s

>>6676038
I actually played a modern game on a PVM once just for keks and it looked photorealistic.

Some video production company near me has a 14m2u that he would be willing to sell me but he has not given me a price and I have no game consoles with me to test with it. I'd have to drive 5 hours home to grab my shit because no crt at this address.

Thanks for listening to my blog, is it sufficient to test it with the osd and no connected consoles?

>>6675713
No. When you get older your hearing starts to go. That's why older people can't hear the high-pitched sound. I'm 32 and I still hear it from my CRTs but I'm not a faggot zoomer who's bothered by such things.

>>6676097
I'm not familiar with that model but if it's anything like my BVM it'll have some test patterns, grids, color and grayscale bars for reference during calibration. Those are good for testing the CRT itself but you'll want to test the different inputs too.

>>6672479
>Curved or flat

Does it matter? Is it just preference?

>>6676114
Thanks man I'll have to go pick up my retro consoles next weekend so I have something to use it with. If it is cheap enough I might take it even if it has problems, I'm just shocked I was able to find a single one in flyover country in the Midwest. I'd have to get bnc adapters to test anything but s video, right? Bnc male to rca female adapters work for component I'd expect, don't see why they wouldn't.

Beats having to haul a 32 inch jvc d series up a couple flights of stairs, even if they have the same amount of TVL this will have rgb instead of component.

>>6676150
Yeah it has an s-video input without the need for an adapter. For composite and component you will need the BNC adapters. Also, given that it's a higher-end PVM, I don't think you will need any BNC terminators but check the manual to make sure that it has self-terminating outputs just to be certain.

just picked up a trinitron and the remote, but the screen seems tilted counterclockwise. went into the menu and looks like its already at max tilt and if i set it to normal it looks REALLY bad. anyone got advice on how to fix?

>>6676205
Might be the deflection yoke

>>6676274
Just in case: Do not fuck with this if you don't know what you're doing. Remember that a CRT can easily kill you if you aren't careful.

>>6676364
Nice meme but he absolutely can fix it by rotating the yoke. Problem is, he'll probably fuck up the color purity and convergence - both of which are a royal pain in the ass to correct.

>>6676549
Of course he can fix it but people who don't know what they're doing shouldn't be fucking with CRT innards.

>>6676630
Sure but it won't kill you. At worst it would just knock you on your ass.

>>6676070
There's a reason they went for 10 to 20K back when they were new

>>6676038
Green Ham Gaming is Patrician Youtube Kino

>>6674203
Pretty sure that’s just dust being heated up or burned away.

>>6667593
He bought?

>>6676132
Because electrons are emitted from the gun assembly at the neck of the tube in a curved arc (redundant word choice to illustrate the point), the best achievable image geometry on a curved consumer set is (on average) better than the best achievable image geometry on a flat-screen consumer set. It takes more work (more beam control coils) to wrangle the curved arc onto a flat surface. It's "possible" to have near-perfect geometry on a flat-screen set, but unless it was a very expensive set at the time (like the Trinitron XBR series), it's mostly going to be a gamble.
In America, flat-screened CRTs are more likely to have YPbPr inputs, and most of the time a flat screen's geometry can be adjusted well enough that non-autists can ignore the issues and just enjoy games on them, but if it's a choice between a curved screen and a flat screen, both of which have YPbPr inputs, curved screen all the way.

Basically none of this applies to PC CRTs, where much more attention was paid to geometry, and as a result they cost a lot more at the time -- Linearity matters a lot more when displaying a computer program than when watching the nightly news.

>>6667593
already bought

>>6680406
Must be nice, got a story on how you got it?

>>6680880
saw an ad for 5€, 100km away, drove to get it

the end.

Was in 2016.

>>6667593
none.
get some free.
https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/zip/d/pearl-river-free-jvc-crt-tvs-mon-tue/7171052619.html
hop to it, /vr/

>>6667970
>>6668056

>>6671001
>Thief on a fucking LCD
yeah game looks like ass without high contrast blacks

>>6673985

Guy is a boomer and a hoarder anyhow. Who the fuck needs 4 of them hooked up at the same time.

>>6683437
>he jelly

>>6669735
ebay

>>6684595

>>6667593
If you're going to spend money on a CRT go in on like a PVM don't buy a consumer tv.

>>6676097
The seller wants 200 for it, that's fair to me, the upper limit of what I was willing to pay.

He asks "by the way, why are you interested in old equipment?"

>>6684796
I bought a New Old Stock ATI Radeon x850xt on Amazon last year and the seller actually called me asking that same question. Strange to say the least.