/vr/ - Retro Games

Some stickies, wikis or links would totally help

>>6648965
Fair enough, but I'm not familiar with or using any resources and just sort of winging it with the above game.

Probably not the best design philosophy, but if you're from the era you kind of should know what works from experience.

I can recommend using Aseprite for pixel art, at least.

>>6648664
I'm too dumb for assembler and absolutely unfamiliar with architecture of the old consoles I liked.

>>6649028

Thanks for the suggestion.

I'm self-studying programming (though procrastinating a lot) and this might the project I'm look for.

>>6649093

I'm also trying to dabble in assembly programming and learning my hex but it's for modern processor like x86. I need some tutorials or guides for older cpus if wanna make true retro stuff

How do I make retro game?

>>6649167
>>6649028
>>6649152


This might be a good starting point. Though technically "hacking" than developing but it was basic coding info like hex tables and assembler guides.


On that note, would ROM hacking be a good way to practice?

>>6649206
>would ROM hacking be a good way to practice?

Im guessing it would be the best way to practice

>>6649206

Shit! forgot link:

https://www.romhacking.net/documents/

So retro = 2D game with a limited color palete?
That's the definition people are going with these days?

>>6649243
This thread is obviously for new games made on retro systems.

>>6648664
Still learning 6502, so it's going to take a while.

The games need to have archaic design principles to feel genuinely old. Most NES developers were arcade developers and thus tried to make arcade games for home consoles. NES games were incredibly small, they rarely have wildly different worlds or levels, nor did they have many levels, unlike what a lot of modern 2d indie games like to wax nostalgic about.

>>6649262
OP here, and it's totally supposed to be about games emulating the design and mechanics of 8-bit and 16-bit games, not new games made specifically on old consoles.

I kind of figured the widescreen thing would have made it obvious.

>>6649243
No, but I'm too old to consider anything after 16-bit "retro".

>>6648965
NESMaker - https://www.thenew8bitheroes.com/
GB Studio - https://www.gbstudio.dev/
ZGB - https://github.com/Zal0/ZGB
SGDK - https://github.com/Stephane-D/SGDK

>>6649380
>>6648664
Glad you asked anon! It's coming allright.

jRPG with Brazilian folklore, with Timed-hit system and HM skills.

Demo here: https://gamejolt.com/games/tropicaliagame/426618

everybody going with NES aesthetics, I went with SNES[/spoilers]

>>6648664
What game is this?

>>6650101
Looking solid, Anon. I applaud your choice of keeping the resolution low. Too many of these games have ridiculous resolutions where the pixels are hard to distinguish.

>>6650323
The working title is 'Bloodshed &The Black Hundreds'. It's nowhere near completed.

>>6650101
Is he Tupã?

>>6650101
Interesting. I like Brazilian folklore(I loved watching/reading Sitio do Pica-pau amarelo as a kid) and it's nice to know someone is making a game about our folklore.

>>6648664
>Retro Game Development thread
>Games shown are just modern indie PC games pretending to be retro
Fucking cowards

>>6648664
It's been a while since I worked on it. The game is mostly done but I just haven't had any inspiration for the remaining songs. Also, I'm still not totally comfortable composing in a tracker.

>>6651378
>retro gamedev thread
>non-dev troglodyte feels compelled to post

>>6650101
>Brazillian Folk
>no yoruba

Og make Genesis game. Og no understand C or C++ abstract shit. Og is glad sound engines exist, or would smash Z80 with rock. Og hate Z80.

>>6651417
Anon wtf this looks absolutely amazing please finish your shit so I can play it.

Not /vr/, fuck off. Alternatively, let's repurpose thread into actual development for retro consoles, which IS /vr/ and pretty cool at that.

>>6651039
>>6651364
Thanks a lot, here's a battle scene! :D

>>6651329
The name is Kaique, but good Tupi knowledge.
Want the red pill? Tupã is a meme, made by Jesuits. Not trolling.

>>6651441
Black culture? Is coming in the sequels.

>>6652058
that actually means a lot, thank you. my main fear with the game is that I won't be able to find the perfect balance between the two themes in the story. I'm trying to discuss death while also having the game set in an earthbound-esque countryside. there's funny moments but also very depressing moments and I hope that they don't clash too much.

>>6652173
>Black Culture

Native parents, chap

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caboclo_de_Umbanda

>>6650101
Does he eats sopa de macaco?

>>6650101
Looks cute

>>6648664
Fine. Slowly but surely. Thanks for asking.

>>6652196
The first link got me to a Nigerian language.

Anyways, Umbanda is from SecXX and I will get there eventually, if I earn some bucks.

Right now I'm at Tupã X Yurupari.

>>6652194
Lookin good anon. There's a gif for us?

>>6651417
>>6652194
I'm impressed with your graphical style. Reminiscent of Mother, but still distinct. I wanted to use the "GameBoy" type of palette as well, but chickened out.

>>6652173
>>6652194
These both look really good. I hope you both end up finishing them one day. Not the most optimal choice, though I do believe the two of you would fund successful kickstarters with the right goal price.

>>6652173
>Tupã is a meme, made by Jesuits
Got any source on that, anon? It can be a portuguese site or book, too.

>>6652090
Why can't games designed to emulate retro accurately not be considered retro?

>>6654243
www.hipercultura.com/tupana-deuses-indigenas-deusas/amp/

>>6648664
Which one? Doesn't matter. They're mostly partially done. I make them to nostalge about the good old bad old days of working with gimped hardware. Once I solve the technical issues, such as doing scrolling an the C64 and larping about assembly I have little interest in polishing them up for faggots.

>>6654998

2020 i am forgotten

>>6648664
to put it bluntly

>>6650101
Mapinguari or bust

>>6656331
What's wrong, Anon?

>>6655282

>>6656314
I really wished to be able to play it but fuck it appears to be vaporware.

Not great, had been writing an OpenGL 1.1 compatible 3D engine for a while, but kinda fell off after I implemented a scene graph and realized my approach wasn't entirely compatible with current tools/expectations for model formats and such. Motivation is hard when I can't use much in the way of existing tools.

>>6657567
I really wished you could but fuck your mind is vaporware

>>6657312
Why? Just curious on your reasoning.

>>6648664
Is that gameboy studio tool worthwhile?

I have an idea for an action rpg like game (think seiken densetsu or zelda)

>>6648664
I have an idea for a game but no idea how to make games

Where do i get started?

>>6659651
The tool can only make simple Zelda and Pokemon RPGs at the moment so you should be fine.

>>6659662
Might be worth to try fucking around with it then

Was considering making an action rpg where you play as an Aztec

>>6651417
>>6652194
I love these. I think I saw pics of your game months ago, but in that case developer was doing it with a friend I think

>>6651329
>>6652173
>>6654243
>>6654808
Jesuits are exactly the same as Jews.

>no early windows or DOS development
looks like i'll have to change this

>>6659482

>>6650101
Looks great
>>6650101

>>6651940
How is z80 compared to 6502, anon?

>>6659545
Well, you're new and you're here. What else do you need?

>>6660168
I can read, dimwit. I just mean what about responding to a self congratulatory jerk-off with a dismissive image makes me "new"?

I'm genuinely curious. I haven't posted in /vr/ before, but I'm hardly new to 4chan.

>>6657080

>>6660639
Why that cover if the game is not made to run on snes?

>>6660647
Marketing. My player-base is 20~30 yo who liked Chrono Trigger.

When I posted it on my twitter a lot of people went :OOOOO

Scratching that itches

>>6660679
I'm with this guy.

I'm OP and am doing something similar, but I made up a fake Japanese 8-bit micro for it to be on. Why emulate retro if you're not gonna go all-in?

There are too many haters in this thread who don't make anything.

>>6648664
Its slow going.
Nesmaker is ultimately a godsend, but it has very frustrating quirks. As far as i can tell, you can't make a template project to branch out into divergent builds, because all projects with shared lineage will share the same single pool of assets. There's no way to clone assets or code into a new 'instance'.
A lot of extra work has been wasted trying to work around this.

>>6660967
I was pumped for NES Maker and just never looked into it after it was released. Does everything end of feeling like the same thing with different sprites because of the templates?

>>6659794
>i am not well
>i have brain damage
Your results came back "perfectly normal" zoomie. Here's your participation trophy.

>>6660328
>i'm new but im not new
The literal state of reddit. Your mothers must be so proud.

>>6649028
>>6649215
>>6649872
Based

>>6661213
I've never posted on Reddit, and I promise you I've been here longer than you. I didn't know that you're "new" to 4ch until you post on /vr/, but I guess I'm not new now?

It's kind of weird honestly that so many Anons just scream about Reddit when asked for clarification. You can't even back up your comment with anything? So you're just an asshole. I understand.

>>6650101
I love the attention to detail in that gif.
Having some fish jumping out of the water is really nice, I wish more retro games that have fishing would do that

>>6661213
>Here's your participation trophy.
I don't understand concepts from your childhood. We didn't have them when I grew up, you either were chad enough to get a real trophy or didn't get one.

>>6649028
aseprite is based

>>6650101
you're not only using indigenous folklore, right anon?

was determined to finish this by mid august but lost confidence in the art style and weird story/world on my hiatus
a friend asked about it today so i figured i'd open the project
fixed a performance issue and think if i grind again i can meet my goal again and get it in people's hands

>>6652173
looks good anon
just needs soul

>>6662780
Basically yes, with a little of Inca culture.

>>6662959
I will polish the battle scene with camera mov and some mario styled hit cues. But that's it. I need to launch it someday haha, Thanks!

>>6661725
>your assblasted shitpost says it all kiddo.

>>6662190
Your fedora tipping is super cringe baby

>>6663247
>Your fedora tipping is super cringe baby

>>6649167
You'd have to pick a system and learn to code. However, of all retro systems, the Mega Drive and Gameboy are probably the easiest ones to learn.

>>6660987
That's generally my take - but you have to realize that the entire community is amateur developers who are only using the sofware because they can't program.

Really the games aren't all identical by any means, but what really shines through is the physics - sidescrollers and platformers often do 'feel' the same, because of the core template.
You could easily change the physics if you wanted to learn a bit of real programming.

That said, there really aren't strong templates in place - they exist, but it's REALLY not 'drop your own assets into the sidescroller/zelda/tetris template'. It's a less-freindly program than that.

I'd definitely recommend buying the program if you're interested, it's worth more than the asking price. It was a big investment of attention for me to learn, though. I wasn't able to just open the program up and start noodling around - I'd say I spent a good 12 hours slowly following tutorials before I really felt like I could move off on my own.

It's honestly a strange program, it isn't constructed intuitively in my opinion. I'm an audio guy, but I work with creative software all the time and I've taught myself very different environments before.

Making a simple NES editor would be extremely difficult. The dev is doing the best he can, and I think he fucking pulled it off very well. There's just no way to approach the task with braindead simplicity in mind.

in b4 reddit spacing

>>6660001
That is a deep question, anon.

The Z80 feels a lot closer to some kind of actual programming language like C, just with a small fixed number of "variables" you have to juggle. It's easier to understand than 6502 and has less surprising and mysterious behaviour.

The 6502 is a tesseract of enigma and oddity wrapped in a primitive and seemingly simple and benign looking shell. It will take a life time to master it and it will consume your soul.

(Just look up the 6502 BIT instruction if you want weird, hacky, hard-to-fully-grasp instructions)

>>6663247
Again, no explanation. That's some top-tier discourse, cool guy. You certainly showed me!

>>6663251
Super cringe baby

>>6664779
>b-b-but
Super cringe baby

>>6664816
>Super cringe baby

Ran into some road blocks interpreting object data, but hopefully soon I figure it out

>>6664816
Is there some /vr/ meme I'm not aware of here? Man, this board gets no traffic already and this guy is busy "expertly trolling the normies".

I'm replying to you out of genuine curiousity to see if you can even attempt to put reasoning behind your comments. It doesn't really have the sting you want when the insults don't even make sense, dude. What's your endgame? Do you laugh to yourself at your shitposts on the bus and relish at how much you made me "rage" while I calmly type this on the shitter at work? I'm trying to call you out for being an internet tough guy, after which you're traditionally offer some kind of counterpoint aside from the equivalent of "no u".

Just stop, dude. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>6665478
>at work
Wow they give you bathroom breaks at Burger King?

>>6665478
>>6665491
At this point I think it's just a Markov-chain AI whose only purpose is to haunt 4chan and derail threads.

>>6664819
>i project therefore i am

>>6665478
>Just stop, dude. You're embarrassing me.
My soul porpoise in life is to embarrass kiddos like you

>>6665908
Embarrassing me would imply that these are my peers.
>>6665491
I work in a pathology lab.

>>6648664
I'm shit at coding so it's going at a snail's pace, but it's hopefully getting there. I have so many ideas of games and stories but my knowledge of programming coding is not up to par.

>>6665751
I could almost unironically agree.

>>6659662
It's getting Platformer, Action RPG, and SHMUP support soon. It's actually turning out to be an amazing tool.

>>6649872
is there a cracked version of nesmaker?

>>6668761
I think it might be too niche, but I don't know. You might get lucky if you search hard enough.

>>6665908
>>i project therefore i am

>>6666098
>kid dracula the implier.

>>6669292
Keep denying it kiddo. We all know what you want to do with my big black cock.

>>6669442
>We all know what you want to do with my big black cock.
Then your transition will be complete!

>>6669442
>Keep denying it kiddo. We all know what you want to do with my big black cock.
this anon is a closet pedo

>>6669442
>We all know what you want to do with my big black cock.
you should seek help

>>6669442
yikes

>>6669442
bump for exposure

>>6669442
>the absolute state of posters on this board

>>6649872
Saturn Stuff for anyone interested:
https://www.jo-engine.org/ - Easier to use C Engine based around SGL/SBL
https://antime.kapsi.fi/sega/docs.html- Official Documents for Hardware, SDKs, etc. Also has links to some tools, SDKs, etc.
https://segaxtreme.net/forums/saturn-dev.34/ - Probably the oldest Saturn Homebrew Community around.

>>6671241
Thanks. Very interested.

>>6656314
>search google
>it's the first result
https://github.com/Tamamoball/Zniggy
Why is everyone here so stupid?

>>6657567
>search google
>it's the first result
https://github.com/Tamamoball/Zniggy
Why is everyone here so stupid?