/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6642515
Cool opinion retard. Fuck your 6th gen thread, faggot bitch.

>>6642517
Fuck off, u/ZadocPaet.

>>6642515
did you have a stroke while reading the sticky? because F Zero X is indeed retro, it comes on a cartridge ffs

>>6642552
I don't watch youtube ecelebs so I don't even know who that is. Zoomer.

>>6642589
You barely have 1K subs, I'd hardly call you an e-celeb.

>>6642634
You have schizophrenia. And 6th gen will never be retro.

>>6642515

F-Zero GX has the best music, so you're right. This one is great too though.

>a final fantasy 6 thread died for this

>>6642927
Good.

>>6642923
Original speed metal vs dime-a-dozen soulless techno music that's in every future racing game... Hmm...

>>6643125
>electronic music
>soulless
Ok nigger, back to your guitar wanking and banging on drums and unintelligible screamo vocals.

>>6643169
Why are people obsessed with using that word on this board lately? I don’t understand what it adds to the conversation.

>>6643125

There are multiple songs about Captain Falcon, with lyrics. I haven't checked EVERY other futuristic racing game but I think that there might be some that don't have that.

Anyway they are both great soundtracks.

>>6643172

I can't tell whether you're referring to "soulless" or "nigger". I guess probably the former since 4chan users are usually more sensitive about local-board jargon than they are willing to dare even briefly and glancingly acknowledge that it might be okay to not robotically fall in line with the emptiest, blandest, most impotent form of racism anyone can think of (which begins and ends with randomly injecting slurs against blacks and jews into backwater communities like this one where barely anything, let alone something a thousandth as big as the genocide that would actually solve the ostensible problem, is ever accomplished).

In either case, the answer to your question probably somehow boils down to "they are extremely stupid".

>>6643172
It's a /v/ thing.

>>6643273
fuck off nigger kike

>>6642515
I didn't know it sampled the halo soundtrack

>>6643169
It’s not soulless because it’s electronic music, it’s because the particular electronic music in GX is formulaic and cookie-cutter.
I can still hear the cool sampled guitar riffs from X in my head but can’t remember any standout tracks from the Gamecube game.

>>6642515
>this entire thread

>>6643493
a soulless nigger kike at that

>>6642657
>deflecting
>denying
Here you go. You earned this picture and have done so many times.

>>6642515
>N64
>not retro
fucking boomers.

>>6643594
That meme image isn't funny, at least make a good one. And you literally have schizophrenia thinking I'm some youtuber lmao
Also you are delusional to think the rules will change for you. fucking faggot

>>6643731
Ok ZadocPaet, now go back to r/retrogaming

>>6643731
Everybody hates you and is actively laughing at you

>>6643746
>>6643769
>waaaah why won't you change the rules
>you must be from reddit and youtube!!111
LMAO
Please post more crying

>>6643273
Embarrassing

>>6643169
>calls people "nigger"
>doesn't understand white music

>>6642923
>>6642515
Only the driver bios and ending

>>6644020
>white music
>direct descendant of blues and other beat driven animalistic musical styles
Meanwhile electronic music was pioneered by whites in an academic setting and popularized by Germans

>>6644115
it's obvious you're being a contrarian, but I'm gonna say this anyways: why don't you go beat off to wendy carlos and post on a different board?

>>6644117
I'm stating facts, you're listening to modified nigger tunes and loving every second of it lmfao

>>6644118
>I'm stating facts
no, all you're doing is trying way too hard.

>>6644120
Now that's cope. Are you going to deny the fact that metal's a direct descendant of black music that carries on its tradition of being heavily beat driven and almost ritualistically obsessed with performance? If you want white music, this ain't it chief.

>>6644126
who the fuck was talking about metal? And you're a moron if you think it came from just "nigger music" and not british folk, german folk, academic music and western european folk on top of the 'nigger music.' Either way, I listen to actual nigger music so your point is kind of dumb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkdpvUToOm8

>>6644126
how are you gonna leave the thread after this post? >>6644128

>>6644128
Yeah in the same way any other music genre "came from" fucking monophonic gregorian chants, the primary influence is still nigger music you can trace it very directly. And hey if you listen to it more power to you, just don't make dumbfuck low iq claims
>>6644165
Don't get too excited

>>6644181
>this whole post
you're ignoring what I said, and that's fine. You're right, I also left out that various forms of ecclesiastical music are a big source for 'american music,' but trying to salvage your argument this way is just retarded and petty. Of course, you know this, but won't admit it.

>>6644194
Religious music made by slaves which developed into blues. No shit if you trace it back far enough there'll be some white influence somewhere since that black religious music was a mix of european folk elements with african music but you don't need to go that far with metal, you'll be maybe 2-3 influences detached from black performers, AND it's influenced exactly by those elements that africans brought to the table like heavy emphasis on beats, rhythm and aggression. Even muh shredding technical metal solos are more inspired by jazz improvisation than anything

>>6644210
sure, Metal is informed by Jazz and Rock/Rnb, but it's also very informed by continental european folk, brittonic folk, american folk, 17-19th century classical, non-nigger church music, lot of things. Although, based on the particular obtuse line of reasoning you're using here, I reckon you know this already.

>>6644210
based retard

>>6644303
>>6644217
alright look im sorry, I made an oopsie alright? leave me alone about it okay?

>>6644217
Some very small traces of those musical styles aren't even remotely comparable to the huge direct influence black music had on metal. Are you going to tell me that thrash metal borrows a whole bunch of elements from european folk? Fuck outta here. If you're talking about genres and their influence you have to look at what their closest relatives are, not some details like "uhhh sometimes it uses scales that were also very common in classical music so it's a direct descendant really if you think about it...."

>>6644335
Anon please, you're grasping at straws here. You have to face it, electronic music was only ever academic music or novelty music, depending on the year.

>>6644335
Based anon, even Varg came to the same conclusion and dropped metal for the degenerate/nigger music that it really is.

>>6644621
>liking varg
>2020
how old are you, 60?

>>6644335
No. Niggers being the Kangz of metal is complete revisionist bullshit. It's guitar driven music. The guitar having it's roots in Babylonia/Europe. You're ignoring the multitude of European folk and classical influences - also from Europe. And you're believing the (((bullshit))) that American slave nigger music was proto-type metal (a genre which surfaced in the UK in the late 60s with Black Sabbath). Even the blues influence on mainstream rock was quickly stripped out in metal by bands like Iron Maiden and Judas Priest.
Niggers contributed little to nothing in the world, so the only dumb fucks that believe this are the same people who sing the praises of peanut-butter-as-a-nigger-invention in an effort to grasp at straws.

>>6645520
Which folk elements does thrash metal feature prominently? Can you elaborate in with specifics? Metal is based around electric guitars which were quickly adapted and promoted by jazz/blues musicians. Black Sabbath was also hugely influenced by blues and used chords/scales that were prominent in it. I notice that your post is long but completely lacks substance, next time try to include some concrete examples

>>6644621
Yes he is one of the smarter metalfags, most are too dumb to know what they are listening to so you end up with walking contradictions. Idiots who listen to nigger music derivatives while shit talking nigger music thinking its "modern day classical", it's pretty funny

>>6645549
>the origins of the style matters but only when I say they do
Do you hear yourself right now? If anyone’s being a nigger it’s you, with that niggardly opinion.

>>6645568
Its a scale of relevancy rather than some dumb system where every influence is equal to every other influence. When looking at genres you must look at their development and their closest relatives rather than digging through some 18th century pieces in a desperate effort to validate your braindead opinions

>>6645579
Look in the nearest mirror in your house. Now think about how that guy in the mirror has a spooky skeleton inside him that could jump right out of him at a moments notice.

>>6645549
Thrash was a crossover of American hardcore and metal (two mostly white genres) taken in a more aggressive direction (see Slayer - Undisputed Attitude), so there's no direct folk or jazz/blues influence.
If we're talking about indirect influences, the popularization of the electric guitar was by whites in Big Band music - a white take on jazz that brought written composition and arrangement. The electric guitar was used for a louder sound, but it was whites that started using and popularized distortion (Junior Barnard's western swing music, and Grady Martin's country music).
You revisionists are also quick to completely ignore the Bluegrass influence on rock music - which was a direct evolution of English, Scottish, and Irish music. If anything Blues only influenced the sound of early rock music, but it was by no means the invention of it or any other guitar based sound. And those influces were removed as metal progressed.

>>6645640
First off that is not what I asked, not even remotely but sure I'll take it. Metal AND punk came directly from rock/rnb which was a derivative of blues and heavily used blues scales and rhythms along with the whole philosophy of high energy animalistic performances. Your mentions of big band is laughable, you think thats where the likes of Black Sabbath took their influence? No, they were inspired by blues either directly or through a kind of osmosis (Led Zeppelin one of BS influences literally called themselves a blues band). Punks a bit more remote since the influence was diluted by generations of white artists but it still comes from the same source - rock n roll/rnb and carries the same kind of energy. And blues only influenced early rock, are you kidding? Blues scales widely used to this day and old blues guitarists still inspire rock and metal musicians, shit like the expressive bending found in blues is basically the backbone of metal solos. Decent attempt but still a huge and desperate reach on your part lad

>>6645717
That was a different anon, I stopped replying after you made it clear you intended to gargle the blues’ balls while pretending you hate nigger music

>>6642657
>>6643731
This better?

>>6645739
Yes, could you make some more so I have some to post too?

>>6645731
Lmao shameful cope, not sure what else to expect from a mealfag

>>6645743
I never said anything about metal you nigger, you just started mentioning it in all of your posts as a baffling “gotcha” point. Leave it to a nigger music lover to get the wires crossed.

>>6645776
Oooh my bad I didnt think you were so retarded that you jumped into a convo while completely ignoring its context which was discussion of metal vs electronic music. Do the world a favor and take your life, worthless thick dipshit lol

>>6645789
>ooh my bad
I accept your concession.

>>6645717
Because you weren't asking anything that made sense. You can't tie Thrash directly to folk because you'd have to jump over several generations of evolution and ignore a bunch of shit. And you're still doing it with your Big Band/Sabbath accusation. If you don't want to talk about electric guitar and the evolution of metal's distinctive distorted sound by white musicians, then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
Even the techniques you refer to like bending weren't exclusive to Blues or blacks. Again, you're completely ignoring Bluegrass because you refuse to take your diversity blinders off.

>>6645816
>diversity blinders
He started the conversation criticizing nigger music and now is shamelessly defending it. Why bother lmao

>>6645816
Hey, you decided to take up defense of an exceptionally low IQ post so dont blame me for initially holding you to that dipshit's arguments. Anyway yes no shit, folk is so far removed that its influence is, for all intents and purposes, negligeable. Bending notes isnt exclusive to blues but extensive electric guitar solos with heavy use of bending and minor pentatonic derived scales which were then directly adapted by metal musicians were. Dont be a retard. And sure bluegrass was an influence, just nowhere near as direct

>>6645819
Im stating facts and asking questions, you seem rather uncomfortable with that

>>6645831
>minor pentatonic derived scales
You can’t even keep the act up, guitar guy lmao

>>6645819
Nope, just stating facts. And the fact is, niggers didn't invent shit when it comes to metal. But I see you've run out of arguments.

>>6645841
You oughta give that post another read, was talking about the other guy lmao

>>6645838
What act? Scales are universal you idiot

>>6645845
Blues didn’t invent the #4 lol

>>6645852
No shit? Who said it did

>>6645843
Yeah, my bad.

>>6645867
You said it here:
>Bending notes isnt exclusive to blues but extensive electric guitar solos with heavy use of bending and minor pentatonic derived scales which were then directly adapted by metal musicians were

>>6645876
Where in that greentext did I say that blues "invented" that scale? That specific combination of elements is unique to it

>>6645883
Right here, I abridged it for you so you can’t pretend you don’t understand:
>isn’t exclusive to blues but minor pentatonic derived scales were

>>6645890
Let me get this straight, you read my post which clearly suggests that its the combination of elements thats unique rather than just one element in isolation (like bending), and you abbreviate it to only feature one element in isolation? Lmfao the state of you utter retards. Out of curiosity are you south american?

>>6645901
>clearly suggests
It doesn’t, it’s your fault that you express yourself poorly, not my fault for taking your post at face value. I’d be careful though, you might get yourself hurt acting like this.

>>6645901
Not him, but bending isn't the only technique used in metal, and it's not even a defining trait.
You're grasping as straws at this point.

>>6645921
Your reading comprehension's just as shit, thats just an example of one way in which blues continues to have an influence on metal to this day rather than just influencing early rock

>>6645945
Yeah all the metalbros are catching blues bands in their free time, just to pinch a few tips.

>>6645951
As I said most metalfags are too dumb and dont know what theyre listening to, this is the crowd that thinks that electronic music is easy to make and all falls under the label of techno after all. Look at the progenitors and suddenly youll find a different picture. And hey theres always hipster shit like Opeth, Cynic and Maudlin of the Well

>>6645972
It is extremely easy to make, you don’t even need to know how to dial in your own patches anymore. Go beat off to Wendy Carlos you nigger music lover.

>>6645976
Damn they somewhat automated knob twisting (even then not really cause unmodified presets and samples are obvious from miles away to an experienced ear) now youre just left with every other element of composition

What am I missing.
Is that not a N64 game?

>>6646009
>obvious from miles away
Using preset patches is literally industry standard lmao. And alright, here’s yer electronica progression:
I vi IV ii

>>6646021
They use presets as a base and modify them often significantly so. Plus Id take some soulless mainstream electronica over 5 min of repetitive tremolo + power chords garbage that passes as music in metalfag circles at least the former shows ability when it comes to mixing/mastering

>>6646053
Running it through some plugins (also using presets) doesn’t mean you can’t tell that they’re using presets. And why the fuck do you keep talking about metal lol

>>6646068
Nah typically theyll mess around with the settings, "running it through a plugin" isnt how it works either you have to tweak filters or the mess with the oscillators themselves to fit your mix since theres never a one size fits all solution. And do you think metal is shit or are you a fan desperately trying to shift the topic

>>6646068
>And why the fuck do you keep talking about metal lol
Because "soulless" techno vs. "soulful" metal was the original argument, try to keep up bud.

>>6646107
>mess with the oscillators
>tweak the filter
Thats not going to make it not a preset. Besides, Electronica is exceedingly easy to write, mix and master. When you don’t have to worry about microphones or rooms or phasing issues during the mixing process, you don’t really have to do that much.

>>6646125
Are you fucking retarded? The oscillators make up the base sound while filters/adsr do the heavy lifting when making synth sounds. Presets are just shortcuts, even if you do completely original stuff you will still want presets because it makes workflow less retarded and lets you focus on the actual track instead of trial and error knob twisting

>>6646147
You’re just reading what you want to read, like the rest of the the thread, guitar guy. None of what you’re saying is hostile to what I’ve said, you just won’t accept that electronica is arguably the easiest style of music to record when you have no experience and no equipment. Now if you want to sit here and pretend that taking someone else’s patch and swapping a square wave for a ramp wave is creating a new patch, you can do it by yourself lmao

>>6646158
Nah thatd be black metal or punk, no musical skill needed there at all just some cheap equipment. What do you think synths are, magic? You just twist some knobs, if youre halfway experienced you will be able to create any preset sound with a bit of trial and error, or you can be less retarded and just work from an existing sound like everyone who uses an instrument does. You just sound dumb as fuck metalfag kun

>>6646203
Lmfao literally what? Imagine trying to brute force your shitposting when a conversation doesn’t go your way. Stay safe out there anon, the worlds a dangerous place!