/vr/ - Retro Games

Going through the FF series (started in February) currently on IX.
I'll probably jump into either the the Arc the Lad games when I'm done or Lunar.

Dont you guys get it? No one gives a shit about your paedo-weeb games. Thats why they get 20 replies before getting pruned.

>>6642141
> Zanarkand

Not retro.

a hack I made for FFT

This game is a blast so far

>>6642125
FFVI on PSX.

Give me a fun to play non-grindy jrpg.
Preferably one with no random encounters.
I hate being stopped every minute and thrown into a fight.
Megadrive, SNES and PSX only please.
I already played Chrono trigger and FF7.

I started Dragon Warrior 3 the other day. I'm at the part where the hero gets a blowjob from the "fortune teller" but really it's her dad

>>6642195
smrpg, lufia 2, valkyrie profile, chrono cross

Nothing retro, I'm afraid.

>>6642226
Noted.

>>6642195
The obvious Earthbound, although you probably know about that golden classics.

>>6642175
This. All gameplay, fuck,the plot, and cute pixelart cutscenes all around, like the guys discovering Faris sex (not gender hyehye)

>>6642195
Lufia 2, a lot of systems to play at, like feeding your old equips to monsters, and the puzzles are great.

Suikoden, people were so excited the creator is working on a new game that I had to see what's the big deal.
So far it's been underwhelming, but it's just the first game, so...

>>6642254
I tried earthbound but I didn't like it, not for me I guess.
>>6642257
I'll give Lufia 2 a try and see how it goes.

Trying to decide if I should replay Phantasy Star (SMS w/FM patch) or finally try the Playstation 2 remake.

Thinking about trying out pic related. Far from a traditional jrpg and I heard it has an interesting story. Is the gameplay bearable? I have no qualms about using savestates should I need to

Gargoyle's Quest II because I'm playing through the series.

Got SaGa Frontier 2 in the mail

>>6642125
I need someone to tell me what this item does, playing through the Romancing SaGa 2 remake and sorta fucked up my run because I didn't know I would be locked into being the final emperor after killing a certain amount of the seven heroes

>>6642125
Just finished Live A Live, what an amazing game

>>6642281
Lufia 2 is a lot of fun

>>6642579
- tank controls made worse by isometric directions
- closer to an action-adventure puzzle platformer than a traditional jrpg
- probably the most original thing I've ever played, seriously, it's a game unlike anything else

If you can get used to the movement and frustrating platforming it can be really enjoyable for the crazy story and how experimental the game is. You must play all the 3 parallels to fully appreciate it so dont get fooled into thinking that once the credits roll the first time that the game is done, its not a matter of minor changes and alternate endings, each part is truly just a third of the whole picture.
Each parallel is accessed based on how fast you get to the ship's captain at the start of the game. over 4 minutes(timer turns red, inevitably your first run) for parallel 1, between 3 and 4 minutes for parallel 2(timer turns yellow, aim for it in your second run) and less than 3 minutes for parallel 3(timer remains blue, should be your third run so by then you'll be good enough to take all the risky time saving shortcuts but feel free to savestate as much as you wish.)

In parallel 1, when the time comes, its fine if you choose to carry or leave Drizzit but in parallel 2 you definitely want to take Kay with you.
If you want, look up how to capture enemies, its a neat gimmick but the vast majority of the time it's much easier and safer to stick with Garian as long as you don't forget to equip all the sword upgrades as you get them.

Plays way better on mednafen than ssf.

Everything else aside, I still rank it above the majority of jrpgs just because tricky platforming is easier to endure than obnoxious turn based random encounters.

>>6643374
forgot to mention that the plot makes a lot more sense if you know that in japanese "jalapeno juice" is actually alcohol. The "chocolate" and "magazines" are cigarettes and porn, also censored in the west

>>6643374
>- tank controls made worse by isometric directions
What? You can't seriously never have thought to just press in the direction you want to walk, which in an isometric game is always diagonal. Tank controls my bum.

I'm playing Chrono Trigger for SNES!

haven't played jrpgs in a while, and I'm not missing out on anything, the stories and characters become very samey after a while, and none offer an interesting challenge that warrants replay.

>>6643947
>and none offer an interesting challenge that warrants replay.
Go play some Saga games then. Those tend to be frustratingly challenging and so open you'll be begging for a guide.

>>6642125
currently playing chrono trigger for the first time, just broke melchior out of sky prison - am I almost at the end?

I beat FFIV! The last boss was stupid hard and you had to watch that hella long cutscene every time.

I love the characters in this game but as a game it was a little too simple, compared to FF3. I'm excited to try FFV next but I was giving interlude/after years a try first. The visuals on PSP are awful though, also lydia and porom aren't cute anymore, I hate it.

>>6643980
>lydia
guess again

>>6643982
Rydia sounds dumb.

>>6643987
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcsnR1dA9b0

>>6642195
Romancing SaGa 2

>>6643070
the crown fully restores your MP/SP of your entire party IIRC. A boy from Avalon gives to you in the final generation.

>>6643980
what about the WiiWare version of The After Years? That version still has pixel art and is also the hardest out of them all IIRC.

>>6644015
Okay, thanks. I couldn't find any information on what it did, I assume the cranes from the girl do the same thing?

>>6644076
I believe they do the same thing

>>6644083
Good to know this game throws so much SP and MP restore items at the player, It might be because I'm an idiot whose bad at avoiding enemy encounters but normal battles feel like they take way more out of me than bosses do. I just beat the 2nd Termite quest where the queen invades Avalon and all of normal termites were able to soak up thousands of points of damage whereas the boss went down pretty easily.

>>6644110
>all of normal termites were able to soak up thousands of points of damage whereas the boss went down pretty easily
I believe that's due to battle rank not affecting most bosses. But it's good that most bosses go down easily for you since that means you stand a chance against the final boss, which is much harder than any boss you've fought up until now (that is, if you decide not to cheese it). You may also want to do the Maze of Memories, in case you haven't done it yet. It's a fun optional dungeon added in the remaster.

>>6644124
>You may also want to do the Maze of Memories
I'm actually in the process of doing it, I beat the red dragon first, and went back to Avalon to check on the blacksmith, and incidentally I had unwittingly triggered the Termite invasion event, which to be honest made me panic pretty bad since I thought all of my recruitable party members in the castle were all dead

>>6644142
well, then have fun. At the end of the maze of memories, there's a boss which I'd say is nearly as difficult as the final boss without cheese strats. Another optional dungeon you may want to check out are the Gelid Ruins

>>6644209
why shitpost in other threads but post normally in this one?

>>6643953
>relodin my save: the games
How about no

>>6644697
you sound like someone who has never played a SaGa game

>>6644731
I actually finished RS3 twice

>>6644697
if you have to reload your saves in SaGa games, then that's just your fault for playing inefficiently.

>>6644829
...and you had to constantly reload your save file in RS3? How? You can always go to inns to completely restore your LP, go to and leave pretty much every area, etc. It's not even like in RS2, where you could potentially fail some side-quests and fuck over your playthrough by doing some dumb shit.

I played so many JRPGs back in my teens that I burned out, years and years went by without thinking of them...but recently I've been craving them like crazy again.
Are there any good JP exclusives that got a translation recently?

currerntly playing the psx version of tales of phantasia. pretty good game.

>>6643980
You’ll love FFV, it’s a wonderful game.

>>6645336
Romancing SaGa 1, 2, and 3. RS1 is rather clunky and unfinished. I wouldn't recommend it as a first SaGa game, but it's still pretty interesting and fun (although more from a historical viewpoint). That game received an unofficial translation by DDSTranslation in 2016. RS2, in my opinion, is the best out of the three Romancing SaGa games. It's a very unique JRPG and definitely ahead of its time, although also the hardest among the three. This one received an official translation with the remaster in 2016. Romancing SaGa 3 is a pretty good SaGa game and also definitely worth playing. It's rather similarly structured to RS1, as in you have 8 characters to choose from, in the beginning. It's unequivocally the most beautiful SFC SaGa game. RS3 got an official translation in 2019 as part of the remaster of the game released in that year. There also exists an unofficial, nearly complete translation of the SFC game released before it, although the quality of that translation isn't the best.

>>6645502
My biggest problem with RS3 was the lack of story. Hell, the game never told me about the Abyss Gates at all [Harid plathru, dunno about other characters]. You just kind of have to eventually explore them and realize there isn't much else to do. Then once you beat it, well, no real story there, just congrats you win.

>>6642125
I was playing Vanguard Bandits but I dropped it because I played other TRPGs before in a row (Tactics Ogre, three Front Mission games) and the burnout hit me late.
I'm thinking about picking any of the Metal Max games or maybe pick Arc the Lad and not drop it for the third time —the game is good, but I always play something that drags me more inbetween, like AoE2—.
Romancing SaGa 2 and Ogre Battle would be good as well, but I can't play ten hours straight and risk it with an aneurysm or something. Free time is good, but filling it with vidya so the dread of my funds running out doesn't settle in is becoming harder everyday.

>>6642281
>>6643295
A tad late but a piece of advice: Lufia 2 is HEAVY on puzzles on dungeons. I love them and that's my main drag but I've found a lot of people that get away from the game for that reason.
The puzzles are fine but don't hesitate in looking up a guide if you can't solve one. It's a great game that you shouldn't overlook.

>>6645552
SaGa games have a non-linear structure and the plot is delivered via lines from random NPCs, although, more often than not, it's more about your own adventure than a pre-defined one, hence why the "story" is often as blank as possible. It definitely encourages roleplaying and using your imagination. It's very ambitious for a 16-bit JRPG and, to be frank, I don't even know of a single non-linear JRPG with a seriously great story, let alone a 16-bit one. You should check out SaGa Frontier 2 for a SaGa game with a good story; it's also the only really linear SaGa game out there.

>>6645712
I copied your opinion here down and then I put it somewhere where it belongs, for safe keeping, in the trash

>>6644697
Goddamn it, I'm almost done with Romancing SaGa 2 and I can say for certain my biggest mistake was constantly reloading my save. It's usually better to just accept defeat than to constantly reload

>>6645729
exactly. I used to constantly reload my saves during my first playthrough and frequently look up a guide as I was so scared of fucking something up, and I absolutely hated it. Then, about 40% into the game, I decided to ditch the guide and not always reset, and it turned into one of my most favorite JRPGs of all time. I fucking hate whoever told me that you need a guide to play through this game or else you'll have to restart once you get to the final dungeon.

>>6645572
As long as they aren't La Mulana tier I'll be fine, I never managed to finish that one.

>>6644697
can you retards just stop talking shit about games you have no idea of? It's legitimately not even funny anymore, you're just baiting people into a shitty, unfun playstyle.

>>6645882
Yeah, they're not that hardcore.
But please, give La-Mulana a second chance now that you have an idea of what to do.
Try to make sense out of the numbers, keep writing down notes about things you could miss or do in each dungeon, keep in mind every tablet you find...
This and the sequels are excellent games often overlooked. I actually prefer the first MSX homage version over the remake, although it can get very cryptic with the cartridges.

>>6643374
>savestate
what emulator are you using?
I've never considered saturn emulation an option after being told it wasn't good for years. I'd love to try it out.

DQ7
The way the plot progresses is great and the universe is rich but the gameplay is fucking horrible. Also the worst class system I've ever seen.

Just finished Ys 1 and 2 Falcom Classics edition on Saturn. Was fun but I was getting really tired of backtracking throughout the shrine by the end of part 2. Also the two games feel and play very differently, like maybe they had two different teams at JVC working on them.

>>6646487
It's fine for the majority of games as long as you have a good PC. If you mean for Dark Savior in particular, it plays perfectly on Mednafen, the only annoying thing about that emulator is that it doesn't have a GUI so you're gonna need to check out some guides to set it up. SSF was the go to for Saturn emulation for many years but as far as Im aware Mednafen has caught up and surpassed it in most cases. Check compatibility lists to be sure which one is better depending on the game you wanna play. Dark Savior has some rare slow down and freezing issues on SSF

>>6642154
Imagine thinking PS2 isn't retro

>>6642579
I love it despite being a little janky at times.

>>6642125
I found a mint condition Grandia for 5$

>>6642141
Is the PS1 port of FFII worth checking out? I only played IV-X, XII and Tactics and haven't touched anything since then

>>6642257
>sex (not gender hyehye)
This isn’t a place for you to spread faggotry.

>>6642125
Finished CT just two days ago, actually. I'd played it before but it was more than a decade ago, I can see why it turns up at the top of JRPG lists so often. It's probably got the best storytelling and worldbuilding in a SNES RPG although the combat is a bit too easy. Good thing there's no random encounters.

Trying to decide what I'll play next, now. Maybe SaGa Frontier 1 or 2, I've never played a SaGa game before, the only similar games I've played were the non-retro Legend of Legacy and Alliance Alive but I liked those.

>>6642257
>sex (not gender . . .)
Can you faggots ever just shut the fuck up? Nobody asked you to let the whole thread know you are the untermensch of society.

>>6642125
Secret of Mana... got stuck on the flower boss in the dwarven town for the longest time. When I finally beat it I was a little too burnt out to continue for now.

>>6642125
I beat Super Mario RPG for the first time yesterday. The ending is absolutely went wildly beyond my expectations. This isn’t a game that went all-out on cutscenes, but then you get endless, original, complex spritework that is both emotionally and visually satisfying.

Spekkio is a bitch to fight and fucking annoying as shit! Overall I am having fun with the game though. I'm going back to the Past to get the Dreamstone!

>>6644142
>>6644209
Okay, just beat Dread Queen, jesus christ she was tough I wasn't sure how to beat her second form but it turns out sword barrier protected me against her swarm attack?
I got the Queen's Legacy... Not sure what it does, was expected a super awesome weapon or something like the Seven Sword.

>>6647742
Both of the Frontier games are really good, the only difference is that SaGa Frontier 2 has one of the hardest SaGa end-games. It's a huge difficulty spike. The final dungeon especially is a hellhole if you don't know what you're doing. SF2 has become one of my most favorite JRPGs, although only after I understood how the underlying systems worked. Just make sure to passively level up the HP of your final party passively (by using arts exactly equal to or less than your WP/SP regeneration rate. This will either cause WP, SP, or HP to be leveled up), get some important arts (guard beast, regenerate/soul hymn, reviva, permamence, Multi-Way, etc.), convert crowns to chips, and to frequently use combo attacks, if you want to beat this game on your first try. SaGa Frontier 1 is much more beginner-friendly and forgiving. This would probably be a better first SaGa game. Romancing SaGa 3 is also a pretty good beginner SaGa game.

>>6648160
yeah, that item is essentially just proof that you managed to beat her. My guess would be that the devs didn't want to add any items in the remaster that'd make it much easier, although the new formation already is pretty strong. Also, after retrying the dread queen yesterday, I'd have to say that the final boss, without any cheese strats, is much harder, simply because it can have up to 7 turns in a row alongside other pretty devastating attacks, but I don't want to spoil you. Btw, did you kill the salamanders or not?

>>6648197
>SaGa Frontier 2 has one of the hardest SaGa end-games. It's a huge difficulty spike.
Not the guy you're replying to but goddamn it, I'm going through the SaGa games right now and soon to beat Romancing SaGa 2, which I found to be hard as balls, I actually got into the series through Frontier 1(which I found to be pretty easy going, only really struggled when I went through the game with my first character), and now reading that Frontier 2 has one of the hardest SaGa end-games, I thought everything was going to be a picnic after Romancing SaGa 2

>>6648231
>7 turns in a row alongside other pretty devastating attacks
Oh brother, sounds like a gay old time
>Btw, did you kill the salamanders or not?
No, I saved them... I thought they were pretty cool.

>>6648240
Romancing SaGa 2 is pretty tough overall, it's just that the end-game of SaGa Frontier 2 is seriously difficult. The final boss of SF2 (as in the unbuffed one) has an AoE attack which always does 1LP damage, has an AoE petrification attack (and there's only one item in the game that wards petrification), has an attack that removes 60% of all party members HP, etc. Ideally, you'll want to fight this thing with your LP maxed out and combo attacks to beat every phase (of which there are 10 IIRC) in a couple of turns. I'd say it's manageable if you know what you're doing, but you'll have to do a lot of preparation and it's pretty easy to miss a lot of things in that game.

>>6648197
I might consider starting with 1 then. I was thinking I'd start with 2 since it looks better from what footage I saw, and I figured it'd be more polished, but it does sound difficult.

>>6648249
If you didn't then you could theoretically get all bard instruments and enter the forgotten village. It's just some optional content. The NPCs should tell you where the bard went and you could then collect all the instruments.

>>6648302
>If you didn't then you could theoretically get all bard instruments and enter the forgotten village.
Already did that, didn't know that was optional considering it revealed some stuff about the plot, I remember getting a good spear but it seemed outclassed

>>6648312
there's another cool optional thing you could trigger if you gained full control of the world map and recruited all characters, but I'd be honestly surprised if you managed to do that on your first playthrough.

>>6648328
I assume it's too late to even try to do that in the final generation right? I remember killing the 5th hero thinking the game was just gonna carry on normally but then I got pushed into the final generation, probably shouldn't have gone a seven hero killing rampage when I did. Definitely going back to this game for NG+, I got the majority of the map but around the bottom it's still grayed out and I wasn't sure how to take over those areas.

>>6648345
>2005
NOT RETRO!

>>6648342
You can't take over 2 areas in the south and the one where the forgotten village is, IIRC. You can also trigger that event even if you decide to let the volcano blow up, btw. Another thing for NG+ you could try is beating the game before triggering the final emperor. It's possible but a bit hard to set up.

>>6648353
>You can't take over 2 areas in the south and the one where the forgotten village is
Oh well that's good to know.
>Another thing for NG+ you could try is beating the game before triggering the final emperor
I figured it was possible, in fact I heard there are several triggers that cause the final emperor that aren't really related to progress. I saw that if you die 80 something times you just get forced into the final generation, which is kinda hilarious.

>>6648364
there's even someone who combined this "no final emperor"-challenge with a solo run and managed to beat the game. This is why I love RS2 so much: because it's so damn replayable. There's just so much stuff to do and virtually every playthrough is different in one way or another. Apart from the few optional things I mentioned (maze of memories, gelid ruins, forgotten village, etc.), I am not aware of any other side-quests and the like (although I am probably forgetting a few things). If you can already enter the final dungeon, then I'd say you should prepare for the final boss now.

>>6648290
2 is sort of more polished, it's just unfairly balanced. 1 is just easier to get into, but you could definitely start with 2 if you have the motivation to learn all the systems. The hardest SaGa game to get into would probably have to be Unlimited SaGa.

I recently finished SaGa Frontier for the first time, playing as Red. After my initial experiences with the franchise, I wasn't expecting it to be that easy. I really liked the game, but I don't think I'll replay it too soon. So I restarted RS3, which I tried playing right after finishing 2 but it didn't really click with me. So far, I'm having a far better time. SaGa games are great to play while watching baseball.

I know they're not retro, but this is the only board where people talk about SaGa. Anything I should know/be wary of about MS, Unlimited and Scarlet Grace before starting them, later on?

>>6648732
MS is great. People often think of it as one of the greatest SaGa games. I personally found it to be pretty good. It definitely has a lot of content. I wouldn't say you need to know a whole lot in advance to really understand this game. It's a lot like RS3 (and obviously RS1).
As for SSG and Unlimited: They're both rather similar as in they feel more like board games than what SaGa games usually feel like. You should note, though, that Unlimited SaGa is much more confusing than SSG. I'd say you should see for yourself when it comes to these games. SSG shouldn't be too hard to get into, but Unlimited might be, so looking some things up in advance could be helpful.

anybody know what this NPC does? Just stumbled upon him in RS1 while exploring the sewers and I can't interact with him.

>>6643980
what shaders are those? Looks really good.

>>6643980

>>6642260
Update.
I changed my mind, never thought I'd connect to these characters so strongly.
Poor McDohl...

>>6649346
Suikoden 1 gets really better after a while. The second game is wholly superior, however. Almost made it feel like the first game was a test run (I guess in some ways it was).

This was a mistake and blatant false advertising.

>>6642125
FF5, fourjobfiesta run with Thief/BlueMage/Ninja/Time Mage.
Gonna head down to the trench to get Meteor next.

>>6648438
I beat Romancing SaGa 2, the final boss was kino but he can go fuck himself, seriously...

I'll give you a hint.

>>6642125
I was halfway through Breath of Fire but I stopped.

>>6651669
Play 3 or 4 to see if you're interested enough in the series for more

finished dq1 a little while ago, halfway through 3 now. 5 is next followed by 8

>>6652060
>skipping 2

Weak.

My first play of Final Fantasy VI... Playing on my SNES and 36” CRT :)) I just left Zozo and I love it. It is quickly ranking among my favs in the series.

A little bit of Evolution 2 on the Dreamcast on the side but I try to only play one big RPG at a time.

>>6642125
Azure Dreams.
Beat it 'fair' years ago but now I'm just playing around with my own cheese and trying to go infinite with Barong/Weadog combos. I know I can simply duplicate items but this is more fun for me.
Gonna be ready for that new second tower.

I beat this the other day.
I do not regret my time spent playing it.

>>6652662
So many ways to break that game. Manoeva is also pretty ridiculous.

>>6642125
Pic related is my first jrpg and i am convinced that the others i will play later will be garbage compared to this masterpiece.

>>6642172
What's it do? Post that shit my nigger

>>6650771
what annoyed me the most is this AoE charm attack. I can't even remember how often one of my party members put Gilden Shield on the Seven Heroes or killed all my party members (or just removed all of their revives) just due to that stupid status effect. Had I known this beforehand, then I would've probably chosen a female emperor and more female party members. Then there's soulsteal which, even with an evasion tech, could still permakill a party member if they're at 0 HP (and maintaining everyone's HP can sometimes be pretty difficult since there isn't AoE healing in this game). That, combined with the ungodly amount of turns this thing has makes it such a nightmare to fight.

>>6642125
Playing thru the ff series starting at 1. I was able to go right thru 1 and 2 and now am on 3, but 3 sucks balls so far. The weird pacing of getting the airship at the beginning only to lose it, then going up a mountain and being chased off by a dragon then being forced to do a mini dungeon to get a ship where i can then get back to the normal map is some god awful beginning of the game pacing. Im so lost and i feel like there isnt as much room to expirament since no phoenix downs and there arent always revival pools around. Is this one really as bad as it seems or am i missing the point?

>>6652962
Game?

>>6653372
Yes you are missing the point. FF3 is all about experimenting, trying out the various classes is super fun. Regarding revival items, I remember having your characters dying wasn't such a factor, in a way. Like, usually having your characters die and revive all the time is completely normal, but FF3 is made in a way that you shouldn't be dying as much (I don't remember there being ANY insta kill enemies for starters), usually getting one character killed means pulling out of the dungeon and trying again (always have Telepo handy)
And I dunno, gaining and losing transportation methods over the story made the game super interesting imo.

>>6643980
He's not fucking hard, he's just long and boring. Let Edge and Rydia stay down, Big Bang just floors them in one, let Kain jump, have Cecil swing at him and Rosa heals like a good healslut. Occasionally, have Cecil slap her with an ether to keep the healing going. Half an hour later, you win. Done.

>>6653573
I had Rydia calling Asura every turn to heal, Rosa also healing/reviving, and Edge spamming shurikens. Went by much quicker.

>>6653630
I would have loved to have done that, but when they're getting knocked down in one hit by Big Bang, it really wasn't an option.

>>6653573
Well there's nothing much else that can be done, other than attack with your biggest stuff and heal like crazy. I managed to keep everyone alive long enough to cast a few bahamuts and throw a few fuuma shurikens too. The thing is that when you're yet to defeat the guy for the first time (or any hard RPG boss pretty much) you don't know when it's gonna end, in can be daunting, even though it hindsight it appears much easier.
Still, the worst part was that cutscene. Nothing worse than watching the whole thing only to have Rosa killed in one round due to back luck and losing in 1 minute.

playing tales of phantasia for psx. at the tail end of the game now and it's been great so far. maybe not enough crazy shit has happened for it to be 10/10 but it's just extremely solid all around. looking forward to playing other tales games in the future.
>>6653375
suikoden 2

>>6653714
>you don't know when it's gonna end
can't you scan the boss, though? That always helped me immensely when playing FF games.

>>6652997
this is the first time I'm playing through it, I just have the patched iso, forgot where the patch itself is
It's mostly a rebalancing hack, making jobs more unique, monsters more useful - that kinda stuff
I wanted to rework the magic system so you could choose how you wanted to cast a spell, whether through charging or using MP. Charged spells don't cost MP but they can only target tiles, MP spells are instant but MP is almost impossible to restore
It made spellcasters more useful (and more dangerous as enemies)

>>6652914
for sure

>>6643980
>porom aren't cute anymore
She just needs a few years.

>>6643980
Just go straight for V, After Years is cool but it's only good if you really want more endgame for the sake of it, there's a lot of battles and little story depth, new characters some of which are pretty cool but ultimately used to fight more.

>>6645572
this is what i love about lufia 2, i got by just fine without guides. i dont remember anything being illogical or anything, absolutely one of my faves.

any recs for anything similar?

This probably as /vr/ as it should but I've been playing FF1 on PSP.
I've reached the last part of the game and I'm on level ~70, I've completed the extra dungeons.
Thinking of tackling the labyrinth of time and face the real hard boss before chaos.
Anyone have good tips for the puzzles?
My part is 2 Knights and 2 red wizards.

>>6659784
the floor order is randomized, the puzzles itself are pretty straightforward. Chronodia will be a very long boss fight, especially at your level.

>>6659850
Really?
My de facto strategy was to cast multiple protect and invisible spell.
then power up the knights with haste, and use the red wizards as healers.

>>6659864
I think I might've confused it with something else, so you'll probably be fine. Although it still depends on how much you buff Chronodia.

>>6660313
I'm still nor sure why haste doesn't get stacked, while saber does.

>>6658654
Soul Reaver is another game that blindsides you with puzzles. Not many like them and they are less prominent in sequels, but they are okay for a 3D Playstation era game.
Not retro, but Golden Sun has a ton of puzzles that involve spells that change depending of a characters ' elemental school and the Djinni you equip them with.

>>6650771
if you beat it without that overpowered spell, then congratulatons. Otherwise, try it again.

Getting used to the controls took me ages, but I'm finally enjoying this.
Are the other "-Stalker" games good?

>>6661904
What overpowered spell? Crimson Flare?

trying breath of fire on gba. this game alternates between confusing and awesome. i'm up to an underwater section where i'm playing as some fish dude from one of the shops. he's weak, i died to the underwater enemies a few times so far

>>6663930
The water spell Hasten Time. Makes you skip all of the enemies' turns for one round; pretty OP, especially combined with something like the rapid stream formation, which always makes you attack first. Continuous casting causes you to essentially get an infinite amount of turns.
If you never got that spell, then that means you never grinded water to lvl 31. The only game where it isn't broken might be Minstrel's Song since it uses BP as well as LP.

>>6663983
>breath of fire on gba

If you're not playing on real hardware, I suggest you use the color and sound restoration patches for the best experience. They are both on romhacking.net.
Just trust me on this.

>>6664916
think the old savefile can be kept after patching?

>>6642141
Somehow, the first Arc the Lad one is fun and music is good too suprisingly!

Currently grinding a little bit before the end of the game.

>>6642125
>What are you currently playing

Arc the Lad, Suikoden II, probably either FFV, Grandia or Chrono Trigger.

>>6665003
Yes.

What did they mean by this?

>>6665964
they want /v/ turn into a shithole. Now all that's left there are smashfags, e-celeb threads, bait threads, and movie games.

>>6666106
You say that like containment boards are a bad thing

>>6665964
It's for the people who need to bump their thread every 20 minutes.

>>6642125
Eiyuu Densetsu 3: Shiroki Majo. Still in the prologue...

>>6666106
yeah I probably worded that weirdly. I like the fact that they added /vrpg/, since now actually good threads are no longer undermined by pure garbage like these bait threads.

>>6665964
There were anos who were mad that they could talk about Wild Arms 1 and 2 over here, but not 3 and above.

>>6664757
>Continuous casting causes you to essentially get an infinite amount of turns.
I dunno why but I thought you could only cast that spell after the time speed up wore off, I wish I would've thought about spamming that spell a lot sooner, sounds broken.

>>6661921
alundra and dark savior are both better than landstalker imo. ladystalker blows

I've been plowing through the Dragon Quest series but VII is really trying my patience, i've walked away from it so many times and it's just the fucking worst. I played a little bit of VIII and it seems to be a huuuuuge leap forward but I don't want to continue until I've finished VII.
I've replayed the first three a dozen times and am half way through my 2nd playthough of IV. My attention has waned again for the moment though, I got distracted by other genres.

I think if I ever finish VII it's going to be the only one in the series I will never replay.

>>6666792
In RS2 it's only one turn, but in RS3, as it uses up all of your MP, the amount of turns that get skipped are the amount of MP you used up divided by something. Why it speeds up the music in RS2 for multiple turns, I don't know. I'd say that this would've fit RS3 better.

>>6642125
>JRPG

>>>/vrpg/

>>6669553
we'll be using both boards shmuck-cuck and there's NOTHING you can do about it :)

>>6669573
>replying to yourself

>>6669553
Dumbass can't you read? That board is for vrpgs not jrpgs

>>6669593
>/vrpg/ is a place to discuss all types of role-playing video games, including single-player, multi-player, and massively multi-player, turn-based and real-time action, western-style and JRPG.
Back to your containment board!
>>>/vrpg/
>>>/vrpg/
>>>/vrpg/
>>>/vrpg/

>>6661050
cheers, bro. never touched either of those so i'll check them out for sure. i'm nostalgic for retro but i don't live and die by it by any stretch, love your work.

Op you now have a board were you can post all your weeb shit so go there

>>6669760
>>6669664
Nah, then I'd miss out on these delicious shmuck tears

>>6669664
>Does this mean RPGs are banned on other video game boards? No!

Go to your containment board. >>>/vrpg/

>>6669803
>>6669664
Not retro.

Thinking about picking up one of the snes final fantasy games. Don't know which one, yet. What are the trap options for characters?

>>6670029
FFV

>>6642125
This game is great but Lost Sanctum ruined it for me

>>6670029
well, Faris in FFV is basically a trap. Cecil's overworld sprite in FFIV looks like a tranny. Porom/Palom in FFIV are androgynous twins, so they're both kind of like traps. FFVI only really has Setzer that looks like a trap.

>>6672404
=[

I meant classes/skills/whatever that seem like they would be good, but actually are hot garbage.

>>6672984
The fun is in discovering that yourself.

>>6673831
I don't enjoy getting fucked like that. Are there trap options that are just plain garbage, or is there just a spectrum of bad, good, and better classes?

>>6673998
I'm totally cool with making my own mistakes, but there are other games where you have to use a specific character for a dungeon, and if you haven't touched him since you got him, then you're in for a bad time

>>6673998
When playing FFV, just keep in mind that Freelancer and Mimic jobs tower over them all at the end because they receive stat bonuses per mastered job and can equip close to everything. Read a guide if necessary, but you won't go wrong if you know what role a character is going to take on your team, like mastering heavy hitters or magic classes.
There are jobs that are very gimmicky, like Chemist or Thief, but you will be running around so much that you'll end up mastering them in no time after you're done with more appealing jobs. At least mastering jobs in V is easier and more helpful than in III.

>>6674003
>>6674381
Also, you should worry about getting the Blue Mage Learning skill early and equip it in one or two characters if you want to get blue spells early, but there isn't much of an issue about picking whatever jobs you like. Some bosses have certain strategies around magic immunities and such, but you have several options as you explore the jobs.
Bringing FFIII again, at least here you don't have to change all four characters into a class at certain parts to advance the plot.

>>6674393
>at least here you don't have to change all four characters into a class at certain parts to advance the plot.
Neither do you have to in FFIII

So, what I am gathering is that from ff4 to ff6, there is no significant bullshittery on the part of the devs. There are good and bad choices, but nothing that requires being psychic or using a guide to avoid/resolve.

So what game do I play first. People have been saying ff5, so that is where I am leaning. I'm just looking for an enjoyable, casual experience. Don't mind a bit of light grind, if necessary. Just instinctually plan and try to understand game mechanics.

>>6674682
Nigger stop being scared of a game, just play one and if you don't like it then stop.

>>6674684
I'm not scared, it's just been low on my backlog. Right now, I'm raising my duck empire in stardew. It's nice to know that these will be solid enough options to move onto afterwards.

Found my old PSP and finally got new memory card in the mail and installed some PS1 classics.

Playing Xenogears and the presentation is pure kino. Text speed is too slow though.

Also downloaded FFT, Valkyrie Profile, FFVI, FFIX, Suikoden.

>>6675138
Get cwcheat and use the instant text code. That's what I do when replaying older RPGs on my PSP.

>>6675167
I'll check it out. Any crashing issues I should be aware of?

>>6675207
None that I'm aware of.

>>6674682
>from ff4 to ff6, there is no significant bullshittery on the part of the devs
yes, but honestly, that's true for pretty much every FF. I don't think there even is a single FF game where you could hard-lock yourself just because of retarded decisions. I literally went blind into FF4-FF6 and 100%'ed all of them and always knew where to go next to progress. Plus, just fighting all the encounters on your way to the final dungeon causes you to be overleveled once you get there. I legitimately can't think of a single thing in these games that would seriously require a guide.

>>6675230
Do you have the code on hand? Seems I need to download a converter to take gameshark code to cwcheat code then add to a database; would rather just sit through slow dialog

>>6675138
>xenogear
I'm glad zoomers's ADHD doesn't allow them to play JRPG.

>>6675167
>cwcheat
Do you have cheat database?

>>6675412
Other anon here, just got it working

Ctrl-F Xenogears and att the two _L lines underneath

_S 00664
_G Xenogears
_L 30034964 00FF
_L 30034967 0034

>>6675418
I meant for the cwcheat.

>>6642125
Is there a point of Marle in CT?
>frog, robo and ayla all heal meanwhile doing more damage
>lucca's fire and explosives are not as resisted

>>6653375
Dude..............

>>6675491
more women in party

Anyone know if Magic stat effects Lucca's bombs and firegun?

>>6676185
I think she relies on 'hit', but the gamefaqs guides should have her specifics

You're allowed to post here but it'd be better if you took this to your containment board.

>>6678121
This thread is older than /vrpg/

Playing through the SMT series before V comes out. the first game had aged pretty badly I think. I'm just at the start of 2 and it seems like a huge improvement.

>>6642195
Fire emblem four, tho im not sure if it could constitute solely as a jrpg but nonetheless it’s an rpg without the tedium of grinding and encounters

>>6678121
Oh my god, I am so sorry! PLease forgive me!

>>6675491
I think her kit would be considered strong if the game were harder. It's been a long time but IIRC she's very handy against the Red Nu.

>>6675407
Xenogears a shit.

Is front mission enjoyable enough on the psx? I do enjoy the tactical game play that I've experienced in ffta and fm1.

Any recommendations for my first jrpg besides pokemon?

>>6685021
Chrono Trigger

>>6685038
Really? I was leaning towards Final Fantasy 7. Is Chrono Trigger better?

>>6682904
Front Mission 1 is very rough around the edges when it comes to gameplay, but the story and feeling of military life makes up for it. Play the Playstation version or the NDS port for the USN campaign but, if possible, play the fantranslation of the SFC game to get a better feeling of the characters in the OCU side.
Again, the gameplay is very unrefined (Only weapons with more than 1 space of distance are missiles, despite fighting with guns, you have to depend on items for repairs and reloads, skills are few and appear in the middle-to-late parts of the game), but it would be good for you to play this one before the others if you are interested, because new features make it hard to come back.
The gameplay improves a lot in 3 and peaks in 5 but 4 is also a good game. 2 got a fan translation but you have to keep the script open in a notepad because it wasn't inserted. Also the game is hard as all hell and the maps are bigger than in following games, but it still has things that would be tweaked in the next game.

>>6685084
desu any JRPG could be your first JRPG unless you're literally retarded or a child. People often only recommend FF4, FF6, FF7, CT, etc., because they're incredibly easy. CT is probably one of the easiest alongside FF4.

Playing the original unaltered hard as fuck version without knowing how to speak moonrunes, enjoying the challenge. 10/10, would recommend to any fans of this hidden gem.

>>6647685
Beat the game last year. I think the game looks great honestly. plus the soundtrack is so much better than the NES version. I can see people seriously hating this game playing NES. its a solid 6-7/10