/vr/ - Retro Games

=== ONGOING PROJECT ===

2048 Units of /vr/
-Map submission deadline extended to July 26, 2020
-Current submissions (as of 7-20): https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k2dzypixqbm710/2048Units.zip?dl=1

=== NEWS ===

[7-22] Combined_Arms Gaiden mini weapons mod released
https://combine-kegan.itch.io/combined-arms-gaiden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Egthd1EHvLE
[7-22] Coppertone Summer Jam for Quake Released
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61918

[7-16] Anon shares their 7-map wad, Hell Frontier Episode 1
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115739-hell-frontier-episode-1-7-maps-for-now-limit-removing-doom-ii-wad-official-pre-release-playtesters-wanted/

[7-15] Anon shares their 3-map project, Akoopasoup: Free Lyle
https://mega.nz/file/ysdgRCxQ#Y1jyG9hGGbi4LkCxP4_6qt4SKjfHfg66wsFWD3B89Qg

[7-14] SNES DOOM source code released:
https://github.com/RandalLinden/DOOM-FX

[7-13] Lost Frontier, a "realism" inspired gameplay mod for Strife, has been released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=69291

[7-13] Anon shares two projects, a music randomizer featuring music from various megawads
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3rttokitvwh421b/TheUltimateFloppy.zip/file
And an edit of X-Weapons: Helstrum featuring only the weapons and slight control tweaks
http://www.mediafire.com/file/yn4pbiltjisq15o/HelsturmNMedit.zip/file

[7-11] Anon shares the first map for their megawad project, LoungeMEGA1.wad
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mfhmnkumtmcg31v/LoungeMEGA1.wad/file

[7-11] 1000 Lines 2 Community Project released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115653-1000-line-2-cp-rc1-out-now/

[7-10] Anon shares a map, bigdig.wad
https://www.mediafire.com/file/7bbj5xwdhm3tcvr/bigdig.wad/file

[7-8] Anon shares a deathmatch map
https://www.mediafire.com/file/mo2m5bim6lc3it5/FortLoungeDMFinalA.wad/file

=== PREVIOUS ===

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This post is dedicated to Hunter, the best and strongest of the id waifus.

>>6631829
>not spider mastermind

Caco popsicle

>>6631829
yes

>>6631829
>censored version
>>6631869
Where did you get this

TIL that in Dehacked you can't edit frame 966 (last frame in the table) or it'll overflow into your weapon slot one (fists) and cause it to call the wrong state and fuck up your weapon table.
anyway. here's a moonbase i'm working on.

>>6631897
a REKKR moonbase?

>>6631885
>censored version's outfit is so tight you can still see her abs clear through the fabric
I can deal with it.
>Where did you get this
That's an ancient animation by a dude by the name of Joe Williamsen that's been circulating for years. Usually under the title of 'Hunter dancing.gif' or similar. It isn't actually Hunter, but a character painted by Simon Bisley that predates Hunter that shares an awful lot of her appearance; however the same Joe fellow also made renders of Hunter herself (as in the actual Q3A design) so I can see where the confusion comes from. i found a whole conversation about this earlier browsing the archives and not being able to reply because it's months old is the worst feeling

>>6631908
I knew about the whole Heavy Metal rip-offage, but I’d never seen that animation before. Q3A had mocap cutscenes, so I was wondering if it was some promo thing for the game. Looks like I have some net browsing to do.

Anybody got the doom quickstarter archive?

>>6631927
Nah, not a promo thing, just one guy practicing his 3D modeling in the early days of that being reasonable on a home rig. I'll save ya some annoying searching, though.
https://www.joewilliamsen.com/skill-building/

>>6631869
>>6631885
>>6631908
>>6631927
I made a webm of the full dance.

>>6631936
Going through old websites and guides on turn-of-the-century 3D modeling is this fascinating somewhat niche thing to me, and I don’t know why. I’ve never even done the stuff, maybe it’s the fantasy of “finding some old thing most people forgot about.”
I recently found the website of the dude who did the texturing/modeling for that Quake 1 X-Men TC, it was an interesting read. I also found out he did the sprites for the Looney Tunes Doom TC that never got finished.

>>6631947
>I recently found the website of the dude who did the texturing/modeling for that Quake 1 X-Men TC, it was an interesting read.
Link?

Hey 2048 units organiser, do you have a rough map order yet? You mentioned two threads back you may have something.

>>6631951
well shit, I don’t remember what exactly it was I searched up to find the site other than “quake 1 skin”, but I’m posting on >mobile so when the computer’s back up I’ll see if I bookmarked it.

Hey, uh. Just a reminder that I’m still around. Not in a position to do much RN though. Screenshot’s a weapon that might make it into HK if I ever get out to start work on it again.

>>6631829
>not crash
BOOOOOO

has MAME team figured out a way to run that quake arcade game yet

>>6632008
why not contribute something to Satanic Infestation?

>>6632026
>contributing to satanic infestation
>not freedoom, a much superior project that isn't just run by an idea guy

>>6632020
>not crash
Correct.

which classic doomguy do you prefer
the sprites or the cover box art design?

>>6631897
Skillsaw, is that you?

>>6632026
Guys, ZDoom forums were friendly to Sir Gay, we can stop pretending that we like him because DW shat on him.

>>6632026
Because I have other stuff I’m working on? I didn’t make the rifle. I don’t even know what Satanic infestation is.

>>6632060
>"So long, Sir Gay Bowser!"

>>6631951
I am out of luck it seems. No bookmarks for it, so I tried typing in various keywords to no avail. It couldn't have gone down in the last few months, it looked like the guy was still sparsely updating the news section. Looking up WizardWorks for his name doesn't help either, because all I find is a small Wikipedia article that only states how many employees worked there before they got dissolved. Trying to find him through the Looney Tunes TC doesn't help either, since all I find is an old project (appears to be a different one) with spritework done by someone else.

I don't know why I didn't bookmark it, it was a cool site. He gave a walkthrough on how he did the shading and outlines for Wolverine, and some model advice. There was a section on the Looney Tunes project that may have had some insight as to why it didn't get finished, some .gifs of the characters he completed, along with a WIP animation of Daffy Duck. There was a portfolio too, with work he did for a children's book about a zombie girl or something. Here's hoping it will pop up again in a future attempt.

>>6632032
I may slack quite a bit when it comes to work on the project, but i am far from just a "ideas guy".

I have done quite a lot of work to make the project a reality, and if you looked at the Github, i'm sure you would agree with me.

>>6631867

What does the other side look like?

>>6631897
I know that the gun's supposed to have antlers, but in game it feels like I've got floating hands.

>>6632367
I always thought those were crab pincers. It just looks stupid

>>6632367
They look like separated jawbones of a prehistoric mammal to me, which would be clearer with a 3D model, but it looks a bit confusing at first

>>6632415
They're jaw bones.
I have no idea in what way they look like hands. I can sorta see crab pincers

>>6632452

Is it acceptable to take sectors from other wads and use them in your own? For example, to take the bathroom from Going Down map02 and use it as a bathroom in a map I'm making.

>>6632473
It is if the map's readme says that it can be used that way. But you still shouldn't because you won't build skills that way.

>>6632473
>stealing another mans sector toilet
what the fuck bro

>>6632473
>Is it acceptable to take sectors from other wads and use them in your own?
No, you lazy mongoloid. Make your own shit.

>>6630975
Right, I was asking because there was this song I wanted to use but I couldn't find any reliable mp3 to midi converters out there so I was considering taking the bullet and converting the song to midi through replicating it in fl studio

>>6632473
Why did you want to make maps?

>>6632463
I dunno dude, I tried like hell, but other than the basic silhouette I don't really see it.
It's weird when brains get locked into seeing shit a certain way. There was a picture of a kitten on a mirror in my grandmas house and it always looked like a deformed old lady to me. Couldn't unsee it.

>>6632051
Are they that much different? I mean of course the sprite is not going to have the level of detail. I fucking love the cover art of Doom 1 though it's iconic as fuck.

>>6632334
Same

Is there a way to program a minigame in a doom level like that pac man machine in Trump Doom?

>>6632552
Learn ACS, it's not hard

>>6632473
Generally a good idea to ask for permission before outright copying sectors right down to the measurements. Especially if the map you're making isn't an obvious tribute, as it could be seen as you claiming it as your own work.

why do screenshots taken in chocolate doom look like this

Oh god, this is not looking good. I really gotta change colour for a bit. Considering I removed pretty much all window textures anyway.

>>6632796
IMO looks fine, but add some concrete/gray parts to the walls, maybe a decoration or 2

>>6631897
Moon Vikings!

Make a space-longship decoration. Like a regular longship, except it has a glass bubble on top like something out of The Jetsons.

>>6632757
If you posted a wad like this in Doomworld, people would cherish you for lifetime and call it "pure art". How can those niggers not understand that art is good fun maps and not pixel-vomit bullshit.

>>6632473
If nobody can find out, it's not plagiarizing. Do it from memory.

>>6632026
Satanic Infestation and Freedoom both suck. Who the actual fuck makes their own IWAD and doesn't pirate? DWfaggots are cryptids.

>>6632907
Go away, Graf.

>>6632907
>>6632914
Oof, yikes, I hope your boyfriend Rachael doesn't find out that you are using N-words on Nazi forums.

Does anyone else like it when wad authors add backstories to their levels/episodes? It's super unimportant but always feels like a nice bit of extra flair.

>>6632928
Yeah, forget that I'm Graf or else Rachael won't give me anal for a week

Playthrough video of map20 of 300 minutes of /vr/ is up. I was dreading this one, as it is made by RjY, the same person who made Aggravatingly Cramped (a disgustingly difficult map29 of 200 minutes of /vr/). The map is short, but I was struggling to beat it with savescumming. Expected it to take ~50 attempts, but finished it on the second one. Decided to leave the failed attempt in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjDh4xriy40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_1aYWDW_Ro

>>6631897
Based Revae. Is this an upcoming megawad? or another episode?

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=67785

love how this wad shows everything that is wrong with current wad community yet it's so entertaining to play. it's the modern mock2

>>6632008
hope you get better at least.

>>6632021
we already have it running on windows, why would you need MAME for that? they're already busy enough implementing all these tiger and slot games and not implementing saidaioujou

Ow, my back. Creepy bone.

Anyone else think Plutonia only still has a reputation for being hard is because it rarely telegraphs its encounters?
The encounters aren't actually that difficult if you know about them and prepare.
Compare to modern hard wads, where its often easy to tell when an encounter is about to be triggered, but the encounters are still tuned to give even prepared players a run for their money.

>>6632982
haha that ending

>>6633039
I’m better, it’s just the place I’m at hasn’t released me from their care yet.

>>6632473
Plagiarism is srs business, so you should avoid it. I haven't tried going down, but that toilet can't be that hard to make.

Interesting how Id's shooters are easy to just pop in and play, without even thinking, while this is not possible on Build shooters. One needs to be really committed to the game to play those, or they'll die to the first enemy.

>>6633053
Plutonia was released at a time when many players still played keyboard-only, and while the main games took this in consideration on map design, giving players plenty of room to react while dealing with slower, less precise controls, Plutonia didn't pull any punches and threw players right in the frying pan with heavyweight monsters in often cramped quarters. It's infamous for abusing the use of the deadly trio (revenants, archviles and chaingunners), the ones that could end the player's life in a split second.

Played with modern controls, and pitted against the average modern wad, Plutonia doesn't seem that threatening.

>>6632473
You could do that if you wanted to, and author allows it, but you don't save much time integrating it, and it would be better for both your map's visual and your own skill to just create it yourself.

>>6632503
>but I couldn't find any reliable mp3 to midi converters out there
That's because that's not a thing, you can't make a computer translate recorded songs into .midi/.mus/.mod because it won't really understand what to do or what to look for, or how to interpret things.

The only way to turn a recorded song into .midi is to compose the song again from scratch in .midi

>>6632757
Might be related to Windows Aero

Why is Equinox so recommend/suggested all the time?
it's a audible fucking nightmare
there are many places even on the first map where you can get completely stuck and have to reload

>>6632982
Fun fact, you cannot drink the contents of 99% of the cacti in the world, they're full of acid and alkalines, you will get explosive diarrhea shits and die from dehydration (if you're stuck out in the desert, anyway). Some exception for some fruits which some of them bear.

>>6633157
Maybe it's because I've played it since I was 12, but I find I can just drop into Duke Nukem 3D and go.

>>6633253
I don't think Duke has muxh bullshit enemies. Blood and SW do though. Blood in particular has very hard first fight.

>>6633265
Oh, Duke has bullshit enemies, they just don't introduce them until well into 2nd episode.

>>6633346
Just run backwards, bro.

>>6632463
I actually saw this too. Made a fun drawing concept.

Am I just retarded or is there something "off" about movement in Marathon?

>>6633452
You mean the floaty jumps or just walking around?

>>6633475
both, walking around feels really off coming from doom

>>6633479
Marathon just has different movement from most other 90s shooters, it takes some adjustment

>>6633426
The enforcers gave me a run for me money too, but only initially because I'm used to chaingunners
>chaingunners in doom hate the chaingun, painstates them easily
>enforcers don't give a fuck, no painstate from the chaingun and it's actually one of the worst weapons to use against them
The enforcers just needed a mix up, the floating bombs just aren't too fun to fight.

>A Marathon port that runs at 60 FPS
>Chasm: The Rift Source port
>A Good ROTT Source port
>Wolfenstein 3D Jaguar PC Port
I want these plz
thank you

>>6633617
ROTTEX is probably coming this year. Probably.

>>6633718
>>6633617
While searching i found out about this source port of rott, it has some extra features also.
https://github.com/LTCHIPS/rottexpr

Pic related are it's extra features.

>>6633718
ROTTEX is cancelled, its not happening.

>>6633728
>picking up extra ammo from bazookas
Kind of goes against the arcade shmup trappings of the game, it's supposed to be basically like a temporary powerup you find and use at your discretion until it's empty or swap for another one.

>>6633743
Fuck off.

>>6633773

No.

https://twitter.com/SVKaiser/status/1266535146313973760

>>6633007
A new episode 4 with a little new content. Well, a bunch of new textures and a few new monsters.

>>6633792
Do they replace some old monsters or add to the roster?

>>6633784
What the fuck else could be ROTT news that isn't a rerelease? Another remake?

>>6633798
A sequel?

>>6633798
another remake or a sequel to that remake.

>>6633805
>>6633806
I can't imagine there being much money in that, it would be far cheaper and easier to just pay someone to turn the source code into a modern port, and with a wider profit margin.

>>6633796
Added. 2 new enemies(one with a new attack that's already pretty much done, another that uses one of the players attacks, that's also done), a new mimic, and I plan to make a new boss (with another new attack if I can), but I have to shuffle around a bunch of states and free up some shit to do that. Hopefully I can do it without losing anything in the process.

>>6633784
Did he at least post what he did work on for other people to use?

>>6633825
Not that I am aware of, feel free to reach out to him on twitter, he usually responds in 24 hours or so.

>>6633835
I can't, I got banned.

>>6633812
Agreed, but who knows what 3DR is up to. the account has dropped frequent but annoying hints something is coming and acting coy about it, but I stopped giving a fuck 6 months into it, they have been dropping hints like this for about 2 years or so?

>>6632541
>Cover helmet is more "square" and a darker tone of gray, while sprite version has a more "round" and lighter gray helmet (Its visor color is grey while cover one's is more transparent)
>One has an exposed abs with scars due to armor damage, the other doesn't but who knows
>Sprite version has elbow pads while the cover version doesn't
>Cover version has black gloves (With line shaped holes), while sprite version has brown/tanned/almost skin colored gloves (Left fist with brass knuckles, apparently)
>Boots and knee pads are also differently colored: Cover art Doomguy has them either black or a dark tone of gray, while sprite Doomguy has them in a brighter tone of gray
>Cover Doomguy has green pockets/pouches while sprite Doomguy seems to have a gray/white belt
Sprite one probably came first during development and was mostly designed by Adrian Carmack while Don Ivan Punchatz may not be as familiar with the game's designs as the rest of id, at the time.
There's also how the "sprite Doomguy" was even used with more detailed in Doom 2 RPG and was the base for Quake 3 Doom, while the cover one is the skin used in QC and Eternal.

>>6633845
Goddammit, I just want a good sourceport of ROTT.

>>6633843
A friend has informed me he had put up the alpha files on the NDS discord server. i am going to slap em in a google drive in a few minutes. but I have to finish a couple of other things first.

>>6633858
ROTTEXPR is pretty good, but yeah ROTT needs a definitive port.

>>6633870
How is ROTTEXPR? Is it better than the abortion that is WinRottGL?

>>6633878
Much fucking better, it has some issues, but very playable imho

>>6633870
>>6633843
>>6633825

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SI3sEUAnIxji3XG3GHZfuapmWSuBP1PM/view?usp=sharing

Put all the game data files in the assets folder and run the EXE, please remember that this is an alpha and still has issues etc etc so this will not be the definitive way to play ROTT just a sad "what could have been" look into the future.

Does this bed look too much like it's made out of like stone or concrete or something?

>>6633890
You're a saint, anon.

>>6633909
Yeah, took me a moment to realize it's a bed.

Fresh doomworld drama, get it while it's hot!

>https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111927-%E2%80%98chair-girl%E2%80%99-sentenced-to-two-years-of-probation-ordered-to-pay-2000-fine/?page=4

>>6633890
>>6633878
Really all it needs an actual functional better mouse look that allows you to do 360 look, and also fix the quit sounds not playing right.

>>6633931
As good as I can do with stock textures and GOTHICTX. If I could use custom assets I would straight up draw up or put together some custom bed textures and use that.

>>6633934
>Sea lion

>>6633937
Doesn't gothicTX have some carpet textures? Could be good for the blanket.
>>6633934
No.

>>6633934
Hey cool, try taking this to something more your speed, like Gaia online.

>>6633941
There's carpet textures in GOTHICTX, but this is a prison, it's not supposed to look luxurious and nice, I want the blanket to look plain and unremarkable.

>>6633936
Sadly the devs PC recently died. so it might be a while before those are fixed. but please go to the github and raise them as issues.

>>6633934
This isn't even about Doom or FPS, it's just the *offtopic* drama of somewhere else. Don't bring it here.

>>6632914
doom's longevity seems to unintentionally say "doom is free/carried by the fans", the more you think about the wiki switch, source ports, wads, doom 64 fanports etc
even fans did a doom "universe" before the edgeless warhammer we're getting

>>6633934
The original topic kinda reminded me that one time when Russian 2ch doxxed some teens who killed a person by throwing a tire out of the window. And then they all went on the talk-show. Cringe was palpable.

>>6633934
>Locked thread
Weak. You could've at least posted something interesting, like the picture of the dw meetup.

>>6633934
I wish attention seeking trannies would leave the board already

>>6631813
What are the comfiest mapsets ever?

>>6633934
Why would you post in Doomworld about anything except Doom and Doom-peripheral content? Astounding. To be fair dew gave the kid easy out to back down and he kept butting his head against it.

>>6633934
literally who?

>>6634067
No anon you're doing it wrong. You're supposed to get mad and derail the thread further.

>>6633934
Hi Ronnie Coleman, nobody cares.

The bed is just gonna have to look like it's outta the Flintstones, the toilet looks a bit better I think. I figure I would add a sink too, and a roll of toilet paper. Perhaps a bible too.

It's a prison, in some sort of dated world, but it's not a shitty prison.

>>6634086

Why are all textures so brown? I need to figure out a de-browning solution.

>>6634086
Try FLAT19 as white. It's somewhat softer than whatever you are using.

Anyone have fond memories of these games? My Mom worked at a printing press so she had to work on a Mac, that meant if I wanted to game it had to be a Mac port...this was my DOOM.

The notion I got in my head with the use of GOTHICTX is that you really don't see that many locales with old gothic architecture like this in the modern world, short of old churches and the odd old castle (many of the latter being renovated to feature more modern interiors, something people were already doing a century back), possibly even less in the future. So where would you frequently see these kinds of locales? Not on Earth.

With some Christian imagery like crosses and what not present, I could almost imagine some Christian sect(s) divorcing themselves from the rest of Europe maybe 500 years ago, and rather than getting involved in civil war and being persecuted, fleeing to another world, through means of magic (looked at as perhaps divine magic as blessed by God).
They pack up their lives and leave, starting fresh on a frontier in another solar system, an Earthlike planet, perhaps with no pre-existing intelligent life, and there a new society grows, based on their interpretation of Christianity. You could look at it as being in some sort of medieval stasis, but I figure it as just having developed slower (perhaps they haven't discovered penicillin), and the use of practical magic precluding the development of some technologies, or slowing them.

Hell discovers them as they play around with teleportation magic, and attacks, right around the time that the UAC plays with technological teleportation on Phobos and Deimos. Doomguy (tm) or yet another spacemarine (no Doomslayer allowed), follows the demons to kill them, and end up in this world, perhaps being displaced by lots of other UAC personnel and equipment, explaining the presence of possessed marine troopers and guns.

It's just another adventure in killing demons and defending the innocent.

>>6634201
reminds me of some weird premise for if the sentinel ever get shoved in classic doom
if their current story is ascendents of humans that were tech knights, their classic background would be opposite
humans of earth that move to another earth and base their lives around a medieval era like culture but with more advance tech coexisting with the old knight looks
eventually being visited and inspired by what a classic heaven could be in doom and they get a better and more clear justification of a symbol representing both a sword and a cross
instead of the kahn maykr, you get the angel mastermind for example
this classic sentinel theme also has wall textures that represent red energy with weird symbols, to fit that abstract classic doom thematic going on

>>6634201
that is a very indepth explanation for why a map uses gothic textures, uhh good work

>>6634103
after my IBM died in 95 or 94, I had to use a make for 4 years, and it came with Marathon and Marathon II, absolutely loved it. so glad you can play them on PC nowadays.

>>6634086
Alright, this tap looks like a penis, and this sort of micro detail will cause problems when copy and pasting it for the other cells, I have to think of something else.

>>6634281
You start thinking about shit when you're on the shitter and forget your phone.

>Born in the 80s
>Played plenty of FPS as they came out
>Doom, Rise of the Triad, Duke Nukem, Quake, Goldeneye, Quake, Perfect Dark, and Unreal stand out as being some of my favorites
>One day play Half Life
>It's kinda shit, on par with Red Faction at best
>Somehow Half-Life goes on to become the most highly rated games ever despite being worse than shit made decades before it
Normalfags have absolutely no taste in anything.

>>6634201
>>6634281
I dig it anon. This kind of purpose-driven development can inspire good maps.

>>6634493
I enjoyed the multi player more than the single player back then.

>>6634535
Shit taste.

Name a single good FPS game.

>>6634570
Definitely not Half Life for sure.

>>6634570

>>6634541
>>6634576
Here I was thinking you were getting more subtle in your approach with >>6634493

>>6634616
Imagine defending hl1 lmao.

>>6634541
Rude.

is there a realm667 for quake?

I just finished Doom 1/2, and I don't know what I should play next. I'm thinking about Descent 2.

>>6634662
A map/mod review site with a repository for individual custom enemies, items, and textures? No. Closest you'll get is Quaddicted.

>>6634684
There's Quaketastic for individual maps and texture sets but that's more of just a depository for direct linking because otherwise you're clicking through dirs aimlessly. Individual custom enemies and items aren't a Quake thing period due to how QuakeC works.

>>6634675
If you haven't yet, give Quake a go, it's very fun.

>>6634720
I played Quake 1 this year, not 2 though.

>>6634675
I just finished Descent 2 on Ace and somehow that was less stressful than Descent 1 on Ace. Might be the backscaling of homing and hitscan enemies. Also the new items and the guide bot helped immensely.

>>6634726
Quake 2 isn't AS good (in terms of singleplayer, anyway), and it takes an hour or two to get into gear, but it's worth trying, the guns are pretty fun, monster design is cool, music is good, and you can strafe to dodge hitscan attacks.

For its multiplayer, it's actually really good, if you ever played Quake 3 Arena, it was already doing a lot of what that game would do which is considered a great classic multiplayer deathmatch game.

>>6634675
adventuresofsquare.com

Hey, /doom/, is there a fucking wad where you can kill the Devil himself as a full-fledged boss fight? Just curious. Would be cool
Also any Divine Comedy style wads as well?

>>6634821
>Also any Divine Comedy style wads as well?
The Master Levels

>>6634732
>I just finished Descent 2 on Ace and somehow that was less stressful than Descent 1 on Ace
I made it through D1 on Ace as well, but the red homing bots and the hitscanners made me want to quit. I heard D2 didn't have those so I'm eager to play it, especially after enjoying Overload and Forsaken.
>>6634739
I'll try it then. Does it need any mods, or do I just play vanilla?
>>6634772
I'll look into it, but I can't really say I'm a big fan of the artstyle.

>>6634840
You might need to get that Yamagi sourceport for Quake 2 if you have a modern computer.

>>6634840
I didn't like the way Square looked either 'til I played it. It's actually very fun and very well-made. Just do a continuous playthrough of episode 1 on UV; pistol-starts are pretty difficult. I got filtered by Episode 2 Map 1 so consider turning down the difficulty for E2

I'm new to using GZDoom. Can I just make a Global.Bindings line in the ini so I can have universal keybindings across games/wads?

>>6634840
If you want Q2 purism, you could use the unofficial 3.24 patch that alters the bare minimum in order to get the game running on newer systems, or you could get Yamagi for some QoL changes and better multiplayer functionality. Don't know if it plays the original cinematics though.

>>6634821
Dr Sleep made a bunch of levels based on the Divine Comedy

>>6634853
>I didn't like the way Square looked either 'til I played it.
Alright I won't prejudge it.
>>6634843
>>6634880
Yamagi it is then, thanks guys

>>6634576
>>6634621
go back to /v/

>>6635047
/v/ loves Half Life tho.

>>6634821
>>6634930
What exactly is the Divine Comedy about?

>>6635028
I forgot to mention, it's probably best you just download the standalone version that comes with its own version of GZDoom instead of loading it as an IWAD yourself; that way, you don't have to change your settings every time you switch from Square back to Doom.

Also, here is an autoexec that you can use to bind swim up/jump and swim down/crouch to the same keys. Create a new text file, rename it autoexec.cfg, and copypaste this inside:

alias +jumpandmoveup "+jump; +moveup"
alias -jumpandmoveup "-jump; -moveup"
alias +crouchandmovedown "+crouch; +movedown"
alias -crouchandmovedown "-crouch; -movedown"

bind space "+jumpandmoveup"
bind ctrl "+crouchandmovedown"

>>6635073
It's Dante whining about living in a society

>>6635073
It's a poem about a soul's journey through the horrors of hell towards the grace of God.

>>6635074
Thanks for this anon, I'm not him but I just downloaded square and that shit was annoying.

>>6635074
Thank you, downloading it now.

>>6635116
No problema, some anon gave me that code months ago.

You can play with freelook and no autoaim, or with no vertical mouselook and Doom's autoaim (autoaim 35 in GZDoom, that refers to the maximum vertical angle IIRC) like in pic related. Just be aware there is at least one platforming section that is made more difficult without freelook but it comes early on in like level 3

>>6635116
Adapting to Square takes some time. Something of a small learning bump. It gets good once you find a groove.

>>6633728
timely

>>6635285
What is?

I've noticed something that the more recent 4chanesque mods (Trumpdoom and Moonman mod) seem to have been made from 8 kun.

Playthrough video of map21 of 300 minutes of /vr/ is up. The map reminds me of TFC a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x59FhENE9kw

>>6632452
I also see hands when I see it

>>6632473
imagine intentionally avoiding THE PLEASURE of making a sector toilet

Holy guck why is FUNC_MSGBOARD such an archaic unweildy piece of shit
it's pretty much impossible to find a thing unless you know EXACTLY what you are looking for, which defeats the whole purpose

>>6636034
>your toilet will never have this flush switch
SAD. The world is a SAD place.

>>6636054
It's basically just a BBS, dude. Nothing too weird and it even has a search function. If you don't know exactly what to search for, just plug
><search term> site:www.celephais.net
into Google.

>>6636034
Sector toilets are so old fashioned. I prefer brush toilets that allow you to accurately capture the round, engaging curvature of a pristine porcelain throne.

>>6636034
>>6636095
I had a secret toilet on my first draft at a map for the 2048 project. Unfortunately the combination of my lack of expertise with building and the scope of the map concept pushed it out.

Maybe I should try to stick another poopstation into the current effort.

Ok, anybody got that quickstarter Torrent file? Please?

>>6636117
>texture filter
>crosshair
>freelook
>gzdoom hud

>>6636095
I've made a brush toilet hidden inside a secret in my HUH map, but I don't think anyone has found it

>>6636228
The only bad thing is the blur filter.

>>6636117
Sorry for backing up the toilet, guys.

>>6636228
>how dare people not play the game the exact same way as me

>>6636228
Yeah, because why use any new or cool features a sourceport may provide?
I should have guessed this place was full of purist shithead faggots.

Which Doom is best to buy and where?

>>6636379
>buy
Doom 2 is a simple but fun game with a lot of fanmade levels and mods, so it's musthave.
Doom 2016 and Eternal are 10-hour games.

>>6634098
Don't change it because it's rEaLiStIc

>>6636379
Time to read the OP.

>>6636308
doom isn't even retro, the least you could've done is play it on 320x160

>>6636396
>27 year old game isn't retro

>>6636385
I change bricks to Red ones, but somehow those are not 8 pixels high which is really annoying.

>>6636117
I hope you're testing this in other sourceports too. Someone submitted a map where you couldn't open any doors because they didn't bother to test their shit properly.

Sorry for being a newfag but I'm finally getting a bit bored with vanilla/brutal DOOM and I've played through many of the associated games on the DOOM engine.

What are some WADs worth my time? I've never bothered getting into them before

>>6636641
First and foremost, what do you mean by "vanilla/brutal Doom"? Do you imply that those things are somehow connected? If you think it's "Doom the way it should be", you've been drinking too much Kool-Aid from its rabid fanbase. Second, be more specific about what kind of WADs do you need. There are mapsets, gameplay mods, total conversions - that is way too broad a subject and would take several days just to scratch the surface of the tip of that iceberg. That's like saying "I want to get into food, I ate some cheeseburgers and many other McDonalds food items, what kind of food would you recommend me?"

>>6636641
DoomReal
SWWM GZ
GMOTA
DemonSteele
Enhanced Vanilla Project
MetaDoom

>>6636665
(here's a couple more i'm the same anon)
Samsara: Extra Heroes
Quake Champions: Doom Edition

>>6636641
Play Plutonia and NRFTL if you haven't. Valiant, Ancient Aliens, JPCP, Epic 2 are all great megawads with good aesthetics and gameplay, but Valiant and Ancient Aliens might be too challenging if you're not already good at Doom. Scythe is a good classic megawad with very short action-packed levels (but it becomes a lot more difficult and longer in the last 10 levels). Check out various community projects, such as CC4 and CC3. If you want something shorter then you can check out Doomer Boards Project wads, Scythe X is also a great short wad. There are really many things which could be recommended depending on what you're exactly looking for.

>>6636034
I prefer sprite toilets with 32 directions

>>6636662
I'm saying I've played DOOM to death, then I played Brutal DOOM to death, then I played a bunch of other stuff like Hexen and Heretic, and now I'm looking for total conversion mods or new ways to experience the game

>>6636572
What map was it?

>>6636684
Adventures of Square
REKKR
Final Doomer+any WAD from Final Doomer

>>6636034
Making sector toilets is so invigorating.

DOOMlets can't into proper sector art

>>6636702
"Trifecta"

>>6633162
My point is that Plutonia probably only still gets called hard, is because it's traps aren't nearly as obvious as in other popular hard wads, making it mainly hard for blind players and people who can barely remember the maps, where as its much easier for people who know the maps very well.
I had this thought, because I read a post on doomworld where the person claimed that they found even a map like Scythe Map30 fairer and less difficult than most of Plutonia, because even though it's slaughter-ish, they understood what was coming most of the time and were able to prepare for every fight.

>>6633162
>>6636747
Plutonia isn't that threatening if you already know what's coming, but on a blind playthrough you have to be really lucky or have lightspeed reflexes to evade some of the traps it throws at you.

>>6636704
remember to flush

what's the best gore mode for doom?
ketchup was lame and squirty
bolognese is boring unless explosions

>>6636767
there's Nashgore and Universal Gibs

when you've had too many imps with fireblu for lunch

>>6636682
I require vector toilets.

Aw fuck, the brown slimefall is replaced in GOTHICTX! I can't make a toilet stopped up and overflowing with shitwater!

>>6636962
Time to make some bloody hemorrhoid water instead.

>>6636979
It's a bit less obvious though. With all the gore about, you wouldn't necessarily assume that it's hemorrhoid blood (also I don't figure it quite that kind of prison).

>>6637005
why don't you just use wood or dirt textures? take the absurdity a step higher and have it overflow with solid matter

Lost media.

>>6637078
I guess I could have just a mountain of sector doodoo piled up over the side of the toilet.

>he doesn't have a Doomguy plush

>>6637095
I have a cacodemon plush because the Doomguy one looks like shit.

>>6637078
>>6637083
Think this is too much?

>>6637107

>>6637107
Perfect.

>>6637107
You activity has been logged.

Much better. But why are red bricks offset so weirdly?

>>6637107
Is this for 2048 project? We already have at least one sector poop (or possibly a candy bar) there.

>>6637158
Fix 'em. Not that much trouble.

>>6637168
Yes.

>>6637128
>>6637135
>>6637148
Your encouragement means a lot, guys.

>>6637180
I mean, vertically. they aren't tiling at height of 8 like I expected. But seems to be align properly at the height of 72 of all things. I finally figured out the height.

>>6637107
God bless you anon

SCREENSHOT SATURDAY
>SCREENSHOT SATURDAY
SCREENSHOT SATURDAY
>SCREENSHOT SATURDAY

>>6637225

>>6637225
While finalizing Episode 1 of Hell Frontier before uploading it to idarchive, started working on Episode 2. Mapped out about 3/4 of the future MAP10.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFgGzDrj7OM

>>6637415

>>6636572
I've been running mapchecks in slade and doom builder 2 and cleaning up issues periodically but still getting error messages launching levels in prboom and chocolate: if you have any constructive advice on testing and error squashing I'd like to hear it.

>>6637452
>still getting error messages launching levels in prboom and chocolate
Can you provide an example?

>>6637452
What kind of errors?

>>6637225
Finishing my second map for the 2048 wad, short map set in the ruins of some kind of an underground facility located in a cave.

>>6637425
>NOO YOU CAN'T JUST EASILY BAIT MY BITE AND PUNCH ME TO DEATH

>>6637471
Looks nice from the screenshot, a bit like the techbase opener levels in Quake 1.

>>6637460
>>6637461
Getting I_SignalHandler: Exiting on signal: signal 11 in prboom and I have no idea about this one.

Also getting W_LumpLength: 3351 > = numlumps in chocolate but I'm pretty confident it's because I'm retarded and stuffed the entire gothictx.wad graphic set into the level because I saw another anon running Gothictx files. I'm going to try cleaning that up now.

>>6637483
You definitely don't need to graphics into your wad. I'm sure it will be incorporated into the final product, and for testing it can be loaded together.

I have a theory, can I see your wad, or at least a screenshot of it open in SLADE with all the lumps?

>>6637341
I love AI battles

>>6637225
I am into something, just started "freestyle", we will see how this evolves.

>>6637491
https://files.catbox.moe/ocos9e.wad

I did some mucking around trying to get what's finished show ready and I think one of the issues is related to how I've been resorting to sky effects.

>>6637479
haha fist go thwunk

>>6637570
Your wad seems short on lumps.

>>6637225
Stage 1 of my standalone GZDoom game development: make some textures and then make something that actually fucking runs. First part is constantly sabotaged by various video games, second part is going on fine, except it does not fucking runs and I can't even figure out how to make player start.

>>6637225

>>6637679
Looking good, heavy Wolf 3D vibes

>>6637698
how the fuck do I get brutal doom to look like that?

>>6637703
That's because it's Johnny Doom

>>6637679
I don't think you create player starts from scratch I think it's just defined in gzdoom.pk3
If you want to distribute this as standalone you'll want to delete game_support.pk3 though

>>6637743
Nah, I need to set up the UDB so it works with my project, so I am trying to wrap my head around its config files.

>>6637703
>>6637734
For fucks sake.
>SBrightmaps (I removed some of the ones I didn't like)
>GothicTXBrightmaps
>Tilt++
>Dynamic lights on
>Bloom on

Oh yeah, and either no filter, or anisotropic filtering.

HOLY BITCH!
the Gigaleak also has Doom 64 source code in it!

>be out of Doom modding for some time
>come back to the general
>discover I missed not only one, but since it's saturday evening of the 25th even TWO mapping project while I was gone
I mean, I am not THAT good at Doom mapping, but I would have participated nonetheless. But I can't make a map in one night.

>>6637826
You can make a map in 3 hours, not couting planning. Really wish I didn't procrastinate as much though.

>>6637820
The what?

>>6637820
>>>/v/518538430
THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

DOOM64 SOURCE CODE FOUND!
DOOM64 SOURCE CODE FOUND!

>>6637820
>>6637836
OH FUCK

NINTENDO HAD THIS SHIT THE WHOLE TIME!

FUCK THEM!
SERIOUSLY!
They keep backups of it in their internal Servers

Is Doom 64 a normal WAD with the same structure as other WADs?

Is it happening

>>6637836
HOLY FUCK

>>6637820
>>6637836
What's happening?!

>>6637836
Is this even useful for anything? The commercial version of Doom64EX is demo compatible.

>>6637905
Unless you and your project want to get shut down by the owners...I'd recommend staying far away from any code not yours.

>>6637912
Fuck off moralfaggot

>>6637879
MASSIVE Nintendo and other platforms leak
They found even the CES builds and alpha of Starfox 2 and Super mario world in it, along with a cancelled Zelda 2 port for SNES and GBA + Miyamoto's Donkey kong game

>>6637912
The code belongs to id
Nintendo has a lot to answer for this

>>6637836
WHAT THE FUCK

>>6637921
ANON They found Ocarina source code too

>>6637919
>They found even the CES builds
Christmas came early this year.

>>6637932
https://twitter.com/morkitten/status/1287082081206575109

Hey, are VooDoo dolls supposed to be a problem for co-op? And also, are we doing co-op support for 2048? Because I've not been doing any co-op support at all.

>>6637926
I cant wait for high res 60fps goodness

>>6637919
>Nintendo has a lot to answer for this

Explain

>>6637960
The old history that Nintendo KEEPS a copy of theirs and third party source code games as a backup from digital to Physical.

and the copies we get are mostly copies of those
Therefore, its possible that Nintendo HAS Doom GBA source code in their archives along with Resident evil

>>6637921
SHIT THE FUCK

>>6637915
No it's true. They shut down people for far less. Every professional will stay far away from that leak.

>>6637912
>>6637982
Doesn't mean it can't be studied.

>>6637973
Forgive me I'm a brainlet, I just don't see what the significance of this is. We have Quake 3 source code, also it seems like 90% of games could be recreated independently. Hell a dude on YT made a DooM clone from scratch in like 30 mins (minus assets)

>>6637679
If you dont know how to make the player start, you need to practice making regular doom maps first before diving into a standalone project.

>>6638026
Its gaming history, preservation and archeology.

Also
WARIO FOUND, ITS REAL!

nice

If I started right now could i make a map by tomorrow

t. never made a map before

>>6637698
What visual mods/lighting options are you running? That looks great

>>6638063
You could but really you'll probably need to make about five maps until you get the hang of it and make something youre actually proud of.

>>6638063
I mean, if you hurry.

>>6638064
>>6637789
>>6637803
GzDoom's gloom isn't particularly strong (which generally, is actually a very good thing), so I use a Brightmap set which makes certain things particularly bright to make the stuff which is actually really bright and starkly lit pretty glowy.
Also, I use BeamFlashlight, and when you point the flashlight at something in the dark, it gets all bright, and it plays up the Bloom a little bit.

So when should I start playing on UV fast? Do you ever play a WAD you haven't seen before with it on? Do you only use it on WADs you think are too easy or have completed too many times?

>>6631813
Just beat the first Episode of Blood on Extra Crispy and did a `Pitchfork spawn` run on Well done as well. Was fun as fuck. Before I start the next episode, are there any good wads or mods for the game?

>>6638054
Yeah I guess, I was hoping for something more educational. There was brief discussion of potentially improving emulation but even that is kind of meh. Might be cool if assets like SFX could be ripped but at this point I'm more interested in seeing what wacky shit Nintendo left lying around in the code.

side note why is everything in the "leaks" written In English?

>>6637939
bumping because i need to know

>>6637939
>>6638146
>Hey, are VooDoo dolls supposed to be a problem for co-op?
They've been known to cause some issues, yes.
>And also, are we doing co-op support for 2048?
Not really. Some anons have gone and tossed in the other player starts, but for simplicity's sake, we're just sticking to singleplayer.

>>6637225
I wish Strife had a grass texture, anons.

>>6631814
>>6637471
I've finished my second map, it should be fairly short and easy (at least in comparison with most other maps), except the beginning maybe. Difficulties are implemented, although I'm not sure how well the lower difficulties are balanced. Tested with Prboom+ and Gzdoom.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jzsiudf24i6gnh4/Ghoul%20Grotto.wad?dl=0

Name: Ghoul Grotto
Author: Brxyz
Music used: Midi of Cavern Caprice from DKC3 sequenced by Lutarez

I'm also linking an another update to my previous map, Black Crest, since I've found out there were some issues when playing with Gzdoom.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7stz7e40yo8apjc/Black%20Crest%20v5.wad?dl=0

>>6638151
Alright, that clarifies some things.

>>6638157
Me too. Consider just plain taking a grass texture from Doom/Quake/Blood/Duke, and converting it to the Strife palette. Might look slightly out of place, but it's better than just red mud.

>>6638130
Haven't gotten into Blood mods yet but Death Wish looks cool.
Also, anyone know how to make Blood maps? Is there an editor or is it literally just using Build?

Playthrough video of map22 of 300 minutes of /vr/ is up. A punchmap by based Dogman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnxeU-5HFuI

>>6638204
Hey, Eggplant while you're here, do you still want your map taken out of the 2048 project? I'd hate to have to leave out a perfectly fine submission.

>>6638169
It was alright up until the Archvile fight. There's no weapons to fight it with.

>>6638236
Should I give more ammo or a better weapon such as SSG?

>>6638240
That map desperate needs an SSG if you're going to keep spamming Revenants. Or at least a rocket launcher with just enough ammo to kill the Archie.

>>6638227
If you really think that it's fine, then leave it in. I was purposefully avoiding spoilers to enjoy playing through the finished wad, but I hope that it won't stick out as a sore thumb there.

>>6636682
>not up and down views

>>6633617
JeBobs, afaik, is working on a 60FPS branch for Alephone/Marathon. Link for their fork is below:

https://github.com/JeBobs/alephone

You may be able to find a site that provides "nightlies" of that fork.

>>6638169
Damn Ghoul Grotto is pretty sweet. This has me hyped for 2048. GJ

>>6638026
Look at all the possibilities the Doom source code release created
All the different source ports, limits removed, high resolution, vulkan support, true 3D, works natively on modern machines.
You can create your own engine or use more modern engines and try to recreate the game but nothing comes close to what the community has created with the original source code as a base
I can't imagine going back to playing doom on emulation only with vanilla limits.

>>6638372
I think that Chocolate Doom, Crispy Doom, and Boom+Derivatives are amazing enough arguments for the Doom source code's release.

>>6637836
i think its Dr Mario

>>6638383
It is, I had a look myself.

>>6638259
it's not mine and just an example I found you sperg

>>6638386
Fuck...

>>6638183
It's an advanced version of the Build engine used for Duke3D called Mapedit.

>>6638087
UV with fast monsters is significantly more difficult. All enemies attack non-stop if they see you. They don't attack immediately upon seeing you like in Nightmare, so you have a fraction of a second to react, but you will need to have the map memorized or you will be restarting over and over or save-scumming the entire way.

My recommended start is playing Scythe episode 1 with -fast; that's maps 1-10. Remember that Scythe's first ten maps are tiny and easy. First make sure you can UV-Max all ten maps in one single deathless run, then start grinding the same run with fast monsters enabled.

>>6638386
aww poopy

>>6638169
This was pretty good. Archvile wasn't as bad as anon said if you know it's coming, but are you really supposed to straferun over the toxic goop for the blue key? Seemed like a sequence break to me. Overall I'd say it needs a bit more ammo. Rocket launcher is a good suggestion.

>>6638372
Yeah great point, I guess I thought all the sources were already out there but any extra peak into Carmack"s wizardry always tickles my pickle

>>6637912
Thank God the based dudes creating Blood sorce ports are not faggots like you

>still no source code of the doom/id rpg games

>>6638431
Yeh, I know what it does, I'm just wondering if it's the kind of thing I would end up doing consistently eventually. Thx for the suggestion, I like Scythe so seems as good as any.

>>6638380
>>6638460
Imagine if we had Crispy Goldeneye with mouse+keyboard, online multiplayer and mods or GZStarFox running at 60 fps in 4k

>>6638512
>Goldeneye
>mouse and keyboard

>>6638518
It's a blast m8.

>>6638490
The run is addictive. Try to UV-Fast it in under 16 minutes :) Remember UV-Fast is short for UV-Max with -fast.

>>6638518
>being a anime nigger
Alf please...

>>6638518
>anime
like clockwork

>>6638490
Also, record your demos. Use Chocolate Doom for extra swag. Crispy is good too. Or PrBoom if you're already used to that, but Crispy looks the best because of brightmaps and other options. You wanna use these to record demos because their demos actually run in the original Doom exe unlike gzdoom which can only play its own demos

Most of your runs will end on level two. Punching out pinkies with fast monsters is extremely difficult at first

>>6638527
I love Goldeneye, but that game is so damn married to its hardware I don't see how anyone can just emulate it and then play it with a mouse. I've never seen anyone emulate it in a way which makes it look right (it's pretty much made consciously around the slowdown/framerate drops).

Mouselook really isn't how the game is designed at all, it's like playing a Time Crisis game with your mouse, instead of a light gun, it kills half the charm. Some people hate the Nintendo 64 controller, particularly the joystick, and I can see reasons why, but at the same time it has really phenomenal precision, smoothness, and sensitivity which most modern sticks just do not have.

It's the same reason I never thought that cancelled HD port for 360 looked good.

>>6638534
>>6638538
4chan is an anime website, also I like Half-Life.

>>6638616
>I've never seen anyone emulate it in a way which makes it look right (it's pretty much made consciously around the slowdown/framerate drops).
https://archive.org/details/1964GEPD

>>6638576
Yeh the pinkie punch timing is a little funky, but I can get it down. Already use prboom for most wads cause I haven't played much newer eyecandy stuff yet which is what I assume GZ is for. I never considered saving runs cause I'm not good, and I don't even necessarily get all the secrets.

>>6638616
goldeneye emulation with 1964 and gliden64 is flawless

>>6638616
>I don't see how anyone can just emulate it and then play it with a mouse
play in 007 and adjust the settings

>>6638624
>60fps
See, that's what I mean. If you've played it and seen it, you'll notice that the timing of the guns get pretty ridiculous, like the M16/AR-33 will sound like it fires a single shot when you do the regular three round burst, and that was guaranteed never intended at all.

You also have that thing where each character can only register a finite number of hits per a given time frame (I can't remember the exact numbers), which is why the P90/RCP-90 is a somewhat inefficient weapon already because unless you consciously use short bursts, you'll easily go over that limit and blow away rounds which won't register damage.
That gun going at 60fps will just be fucking jank and go through ammo faster than it ever did.

>>6638629
Maybe if you use an N64 controller.

>>6638634
And it still won't be the same.

>>6638616
That's because people don't have access to the source code to make it work flawlessly, the best they do is mouse emulation of the analog stick and it's weird
It can be done though just like vertical aiming can be made to work in Doom

>>6638616
>>6638652
I grew up playing GoldenEye on N64 and even as a kid I wondered what it would be like to play it on PC with a mouse and a keyboard. Once I found out about emulation, I figured it would be impossible to achieve KB+M controls due to the way emulation works, until the patch came out a few years ago. It felt like I was playing the game for the first time again.

I get your point, it's not the way that the developers intended for the game to be played, but at the same time it was so much fun that I honestly don't care.

>>6638660
Doom is quite a different game from Goldeneye 64, and it's actually a much more flexible game in its gameplay. I'm not sure how to explain it, but Goldeneye feels almost like a rail shooter in design, except that it's not stuck to a rail at all.

>>6638669
I see your point just as well, and that notion also entertained me as a kid, but I've played that game so much that how everything works exactly is ingrained strongly in my brain.
I could say the same for Doom, but the difference is that I've played many different sourceports and console ports ever since I was a kid, to me, there's multiple different ways how Doom can be, even as just vanilla.

I understand of course that this is *stupidly* subjective.

>>6638616
I'm not talking emulation anon I'm talking source ports
Doom was hard coded to run at 35 fps with no vertical aiming and mouse support sucks so much I played keyboard only back in the day yet those limitations and many others have been shattered by the community through source ports, yet they're still there if you emulate it through DOSBox.

>>6632519
got a picture of the picture? the deformed old lady one i mean.

>>6638674
>Goldeneye feels almost like a rail shooter in design
It was originally designed to be a rail shooter. That's where the location based damage came from, and the weird floaty aiming. Somewhere along the line they decided to go with an fps and worked in the other stuff. Some of the level design even.
The stuff they did right was the guards going for alarms when they saw you and all that. Perfect Dark did everything better though, of course.

>>6638674

The only reason you can tolerate all Doom source ports but only the original Goldeneye is because the community worked hard on the Doom source code to make something brilliant.
Remember, Rare had access to Perfect Dark source code and they did 60fps flawlessly on Xbox 360, it's the same engine, they had a 60fps version of Goldeneye too that was not released because of legal reasons. It's perfectly possible, but not through emulation.

>>6638691
Maybe you're right. Still it feels wrong to not use the stick.

I'm attempting to play BLOOM for the first time but the HUD is ungodly, it takes up like a third of the screen. I'm using GZDOOM, how do I change the HUD? I went into HUD options and fiddled about but nothing changed ingame. What gives?

>>6638712
go to display options and change the screen size

>>6638712
Never tried BLOOM (looks fucking awesome) but in default GZDoom you can switch to the minimalist HUD by pressing + or -

>>6638715
The enormous face status still covered the screen even at 50% scale but I realized where to go to scale the status bar, thanks anon.
Still not sure how the BLOOM developers thought it was a good idea to turn the status bar into that atrocity.

How do I get Goldeneye to run with a mouse?

I downloaded Project 64 and the ROM but the thing is only accepting keyboard inputs.

>>6638757
Download 1964 instead, it has mouse input default.

Say, how many of you DIDN'T include a custom music track for your submitted levels?

I can't really come up with anything for Sky 2.

Do we have any secret levels for the project or is anyone working on any? I'm doing a Club Doom tribute that I think would be best used as a secret level.

Also some anon mentioned they were working on a MAP07 level. Anyone doing a MAP30?

>>6638939
I knew I would find you here lol.
Didnt know you were doing a tribute.

>>6638652
>Maybe if you use an N64 controller.
you can in that very same download

>>6638939
>Do we have any secret levels for the project
Not yet. I like the sound of your idea though.
>Anyone doing a MAP30?
Also no, not yet at least.

>>6638945
I don't think I am who you think I am.

>>6638991
If we don't get one by the deadline but we're nearly at 32 maps is it worth doing a second extension just to fill in the gaps?

>>6638939
>>6638991
I'm doing Map 07, and it's roughly finished.
I figure that maybe I could put a Map 30 together, but it would take a number of days, and some people have really been waiting long enough.

I haven't been keeping up, how many maps for 2048 are there? I might be able to throw one together if there's any slot that needs filled.

>>6639002
Maybe. It might piss some people off though. We'll see what gets submitted tomorrow.
>>6639007
If you're willing to make one, that would be great. Just do me a favor and post some progress screenshots as you work on it. I'll put out a beta build for the project to hold people over who are really itching to play some of the maps.
>>6639028
25 so far. Since some anons just volunteered to do maps 30 and 31, that leaves MAP15 (just a regular map with a secret exit) and MAP32 (super secret) for special slots. There are also spots for maps 33-35 if we happen to get a surplus, but you'll need to warp to them.

Fuck it, i'll see what I can do in the 2 hours before the 26th. If I get worthwhile results then i'll post them.

>>6639061
I was thinking of using MAP32 for the club because I can't think of a good place for a secret exit. I have an idea for MAP31 but I don't have time to finish it by the deadline.

I'm open to adding a secret exit to my previous map (Cauldron). I have to admit though I haven't played the other maps so I don't know how it compares in difficulty. It wouldn't be good to have a MAP15 that's way easier or harder than maps 12-20.

>>6638871
i didn't

>>6638757
>>6638624

>>6639061
>Just do me a favor and post some progress screenshots as you work on it.
Alright. I figure I'll at least submit the maps I have tomorrow, after doing a bit more polish and testing on them, then you can put those in, people can complain at me that I'm doing them wrong, and I suppose I'll supply an updated version with a Map 30 if I can get one made.

>progress screenshots
Well, I suppose, though I also want it to kind of be a surprise.

I went on the internet today and I found this.

>>6639258
>always wonder where B.J. is for these pics
>remember that machine games is forcing him to attend #blm rallies between hormone therapy sessions

>>6639258
He shoult smoke a fucken bong,

>>6639272
Please, don't. I'd like to remember TNO with fond memories, and forget about the rest of those games.

How the hell does Crispy Doom know what to apply brightmaps to? Pic related are items in Freedoom1.wad that glow in the dark.

>>6639094
Just pretend you're making a map for 100 minutes of /vr/ instead.

>>6639317
What're you talking about anon? The second Wolfenstein game was amazing!!!!!

The Old Blood, that is.

I am almost finished with the bossback pic..

>>6639363
Holy shit dude, that's great.
>>6639094
You know you can still post maps on the 26th, right?

>>6638616
>also I like Half-Life.
KYS

>>6638681
I looked for it for a while last night but couldn't find it.

>>6639339
Those aren't brightmaps - it just has "bright" flag, which makes the whole sprite appear always at full illumination
Find same sprite in lit area and it would look the same
With brightmap only part of the sprite would be at full brightness.

>>6638046
I know how to make a fucking player start in vanilla, and I already have seven maps and an unfinished TC under my belt. What I don't know is how to set up UDB to work with standalone projects. I've made a new config based on config template, but I can't get it to have player starts in editor, even though I copied and edited player start definition from other configs.

>>6639094
2 hours later and I net this thing. I'm definitely going to work further on it.
>>6639384
I wasn't entirely sure. Either way, my mapping is slow as piss and this served as a good speed exercise for me.

>>6639140
:DDD TY Anon(s)

>>6639459
>Goldeneye
go back

>>6631814
>>6638939
>>6639106

Name: Club Boom
Author: Washing Machine Enthusiasts
Music used: MIDI of Blue Monday by New Order

The level is on MAP32 - it's intended as the super secret level.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ylkldr1u_DJyigjR011ro1zE2FWV11DK/view?usp=sharing

The premise is "what if Club Doom but showing off Boom effects instead of PS1 effects".

>>6639761
Now that is a quality map, the pool was genius. The only issue I encountered is a softlock where you can get stuck thanks to a lift near the red key.

>>6637225
I finally finished recording some decent-quality full-episode UV-Max demos of Base Ganymede
> https://youtu.be/2HfkMN34zMY
So close to sub-40 though, so I'll have to go back to this one eventually

>>6639873
I knew the elevator would be trouble. What exactly did you do to get in that situation?

RIP Texas /idgames/ server I guess.

>>6639930
I just stepped a little too close to the switch behind the archvile that lowers the lift. If you're not on the lift and inside the room like in my screenshot, there's no way to raise it back up so you can escape. You can fix this pretty easily by making the sector smaller so the player can't actually fit inside and trap themselves.

>YOU WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THE TIME COMES...
is there a more based moment in retro FPS?

>>6639930
Actually forget what I said about making the room smaller in >>6640002 I wasn't think properly. Just make it so the back linedef of the elevator raises the elevator when the player presses it.

>>6631814
>>6639761
>>6640002

Thanks. Fixed version:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ylkldr1u_DJyigjR011ro1zE2FWV11DK/view?usp=sharing

>>6640041
I tried that initially but making the room smaller is a better idea. Prevents the player from cheesing the map by triggering infighting then hiding behind the elevator.

The room is now 8 units deep so it is still possible to bump your head and stop the elevator moving, but it will resume as soon as you move back out of the indent.

>>6639258
>Big Chungus reference
Never should've zoomed in.

>>6640078
but big chungus is a rabbit anon