/vr/ - Retro Games

Dipsy Korn

Unironically by not making it. Fuck the n64 and fuck collectathons.

>controllers


>stolar


>x is best looking console


>sonic adventure games arent good


>sm64


>why didnt the dc/saturn succeed?


>kino


>mini console hacks


>psx


>zoomers


>off topic game from youtuber


>emulation

>>6608478
DK64 is actually already a masterpiece but basedboys who don’t know jow to play it whine it’s too hard.

DK64 is based.

>>6608478
Simplify the graphics and environments, make it 60fps

>>6608478
Its kinda fix with the dpad hack

By not spamming the same shitty thread on 4chan every day

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>>6608478
Scale back the scope of the game, make Donkey and Diddy the only playable Kongs. Add back more of the animal buddies. Make the minigames less frequent and obnoxious.

>>6608540
This is pretty much it. It’s not a bad game but it just feels bloated. If they would’ve scaled back a bit they could’ve made what was there better.

>only 3 years after DKC3
It felt longer back then, to be desu.

Remove about 15 to 20% of collectibles

Give DK64 the atmosphere of DKC1 and 2 instead of the cutesy goofy hyuck hyuck style it has

>>6608478
Did this game kill the scotformer?

>>6608478
>https://pastebin.com/m82XBvYm

>>6608478
Not make a collectathon, instead make it like what Nintendo would later do with 3D World : a level-based three dimensional platformer, something that pretty much plays like DKC but with another axis. They could have gone after Crash Bandicoot's place at the time as the definitive traditional level-based 3D platformer, as an alternative to the Mario 64 / Banjo-style games.

>>6608478
Make it a 3D action-platformer instead. Also put Grant Kirkhope on the Conker's Bad Fut day team instead and bring in David Wise for the music.

>>6608478
Realize the 3D platformer genre has ran its course and make a different kind of game instead of yet another 3D platformer rehash.

>Any Kong can collect any collectible is they can reach it.

That's it, the game is fixed.

Also, remove Tiny, add Dixie.

>>6610232
Nah, there's a hack that already kind of does this by letting you switch out kongs anywhere and while it takes out much of the tedium it turns out the game is still shit regardless.
In fact it really demonstrates just how shallow the game is without having to waste 80% of your time backtracking to a tag barrel.

>>6610254
Sounds like you just don't like the genre desu.

>>6610254
DESU the tag barrel meme never made sense did people just not know how to play? I 100%ed it you don’t have to go back to the barrel that much if you play it properly and it’s really obvious how you’re supposed to do it.

I think people are mad cuz bad. Game is fun.

>>6608834
Actually not a bad idea but at the same time I think what we did get was better.

Put more stuff to collect kek

>>6608605
There’s definitely something to be said about the passage of vidya time as a kid in the 90s. Time already moved at a weird pace to your little pea brain as a kid, but add the absolutely insane pace of tech progression at the time and literally nothing makes sense anymore.

3D arrow above your character telling you where to go at all times

it sucks a LOT but it's still better than SM64, or any 3D Mario game

very low bar though

>>6610583
Based and truth pilled

I liked DK64 a lot but I'm a sucker for collectathons. Its definitely not as good as Kazooie / Tooie though

I'd get rid of the tag barrel, or at least make it something the kongs just whip out when they want to switch and I'd give the player the ability to switch kongs from the pause menu. Imagine the Tag Barrel menu with the kongs being selectable with the analog stick and then having the C buttons direct other pause menu funtionality like C-up being totals, C-left being save, and C-right being exit level. This change cuts out a lot of the backtracking and allows the player to pick up any collectables they see as soon as they see them. I'd also make more use of the expansion pak. As far as I'm aware the only reason DK64 needs the expansion pak is to prevent an automatic crash on boot-up with no other enhancements to the gameplay. I'd change that shit quick. First off, I'd get the damn thing programmed right. No other N64 game had this issue to my knowledge and Rare had been making N64 titles on the hardware for a few years at that point. There's no reason the bug should exist and by fixing it the game could probably make better use of the expansion pak. I would use the resources provided by the pack to keep a steady 60 frames or 30 at the very least. DK64 likes to dip in frames a lot which I believe to be part of the reason it didn't age so well because the framerate simply makes it feel dated. Mario 64 still feels buttery smooth to this day (I should know because I played it all day yesterday and got 98/120 stars that day) because it rarely dropped frames. A steady framerate would also help to remedy the constant pausing the player would need to be doing if my pause menu kong switching idea is implemented. Another thing you could implement is having 2 kongs out at once. In DKC 1, 2, and 3, you had 2 kongs, be it DK and Diddy, Diddy and Dixie, or Dixie and Kiddy. Having 2 kongs out at a time in 64 would allow you to pick up both kong's collectables meaning the flow of gameplay won't be as broken up by switching.

>>6610515
It's all about perception, anon. Let's say you're a 5 year old. 1 year is 20% of your entire life. Relatively speaking that's a long ass time. Now let's say you're 25 years old. 1 year is now only 4% of your life. It's the same amount of time but depending on who's experiencing it the perception changes based on how much time they've already experienced. So if you're 5 years old in '96 waiting for DK64 to come out in '99 then you've gotta wait the equivalent of 60% of the time you've been on Earth. If you're 25 in '96 and waiting for DK64 to come out in '99 then you only have to wait the equivalent of 12% of the time you've been on Earth.

>>6608478

>Playing DK64 on Retroarch with Kong Swap-cheat code on that I found on Youtube

I already did

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlNhSoX5UZ0

Tiny Kong is a cute.

>make a meandering collectathon after making some of the best 2D platformers around
I'm still upset. To this day DK64 still doesn't feel like a proper Donkey Kong game. Generic 3D platformer with a DK coat of paint.

>>6611358
Apparently it was something akin to a DKC game w/ 3D models in early development. I wonder if anything from that stage survives?

Make is a 2.5-D platformer like Klonoa instead of a Banjo-Kazooie clone

I remember N64 and its entire library as a bad joke.

>>6612635
Wait until you hear the punchline...

>>6610606
the pause menu being the tag barrel sounds incredibly comfy
when you press start there should be a delay where it appears above the player and he leaps in and the game transitions to the pause screen with all the kongs and stats

>>6608478
DK64 was well-received at the time and it's really only in the last <5 years that it became "downvoted" (as if public opinion is one big Reddit thread, so to speak).

DK64 is still a well-made game and zoomies who have never played it should shut up and stop making gay YouTube videos about stuff they don't know about.

But, to answer your question :
>How would you fix it?

It will fix itself. These things undulate. Expect to see (maybe in 5- 10 years time ) videos appearing saying "is DK64 actually..... GOOD?!?!?!?!" and a total ret-con of "public opinion" taking place.

The video's script will be like :
>" HEEEEYYYYY WHATSUPPP GUYS, ZOOMER _ADHD _YOUTUBER_666 HERE, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THIS VIDEO, A QUICK WORD FROM MY SPONSOR DILATIONSTATION.COM - THE BEST DILATERS ON THE MARKET, TO HELP YOU TRANSITION EASIER - KEEP THAT WOUND OPEN!
>sOo0o0o0o0o0o0o0 GHUYYYSS, I REEECENTLY PICKED UP DK64 AND HAD TO LOOK BACK AT MY PREEEEVIOUS VIDEO *flash back of video from 2019* AND I TOTALLY SLAMMED THIS GAME, GUUYYYS - BUT HERES THE THING - I HADNT EVEN PLAAAAYED IT!!! YEEEA!
>WEEEELLL GUYS, I GOTTA ADMIT, THIS GAME IS ACTUALLY REALLY AMAZING! I JUST GOT TAKEN IN BY THE REAL-LIFE-REDDIT-THREAD THAT IS HOMOSEXUAL ZOOMERISM

>>6608605
>>6610515
>>6610630
I was too young for SNES and DK Country games, but perfect age for N64 and thus, DK 64. And I have to say the SNES seemed really ancient at that time. 2D seemed to old fashioned and the flat controller with no rumble just looked odd.

Plus remember DK Country as a series was pretty late out on SNES. December 96 is as late as mainstream SNES games get, really.

Some periods of time are quicker than others. Was it Lenin who said "weeks can pass in decades, and then decades can pass in weeks"? That is what happened between 1995 and 1999 technology-wise

>>6611358
Some truth to this. Although I feel it does have enough DK character to be just about passable. But it does feel like basically any kind of IP could be copy-pasted into this game