/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6598021
Oh look, it's THAT thread again...

>>6598021
dude what if donkey 2 but cgi whoa

>>6598021
why is his body reflecting a sky when he’s underground?

>>6598037
Alias/PA allowed to either use just a reflection map to save on render time, fully raytraced reflections or a combination of the map and raytracing.
So it was probably done to save time, since those were rendered at print resolutions. Just a guess, idk.

>>6598021
It’s kind of a chicken-or-the-egg proposal, because if Nintendo had the horsepower to push that level of fidelity, then the gameplay would likely be dramatically different as well. It’s almost impossible for me to imagine an industry where early 3D games have that much complexity out of the gate.

>>6598037
They wanted to emphasize the metallic silver look

>>6598021
It's so nice finding a place where other people appreciate this early CGI aesthetic as much as I do. This is what I wanted video games to look like eventually, not this boring as hell realism we have now.

>>6598065
the only game I can think of that kinda fits that style is Super Smash Bros. Melee

>>6598082
Sometimes Tekken Tag and Tekken 4 too.

one day, the technology is amost there

Those renders are pure cope

>>6598138
more HQ renders of MK64 or 64 games?

>>6598021
If nintendo "had the technology" they would have designed the levels completely differently, the minimalist abstract visuals of mario 64 informed the game design.

If your argument is "imagine if nintendo could make the game to look like these renders", well, IDK, maybe, rumor is that they're working on a remake for mario 64 for the switch, that might look a bit like that.

>>6598242

>>6598065
>This is what I wanted video games to look like eventually
it was iD tech 4, that level of graphics was hit almost 15 years ago, what are you talking about?

>>6598349
You vastly underestimate the clarity and fidelity in the visuals of op's image. No PC could render those kind of graphics in real time today.

>>6598505
You vastly overestimate the clarity and fidelity in the visuals of op's image, it looks bad, it will always look bad and you need to stop being autistic about it

>>6598505
>You vastly underestimate the clarity and fidelity in the visuals of op's image. No PC could render those kind of graphics in real time today
PCs can do real time ray tracing now. Pic is real-time visuals on an RTX card with Unreal Engine.

>>6598519
and it has an incredibly boring realistic look to it. I want the older CGI style, the more primitive shapes and textures mixed with ray tracing and such in real time.

>>6598349
you are blind. i actually feel bad for you if you think we passed that 15 years ago

>>6598540
the only thing it does higher is resolution and anti-aliasing
>inb4 raytracing
that is Screen Spaced Reflections at best

>>6598242

>>6598043
Lol u gay

*marble-blocking intenstifies*

>>6598669
>marble

blast corps and JFG had good renders too

>>6598540
We easily passed that years ago. Early pre-renders are essentially just high-poly models with low detail textures, bump mapping, and unnatural lighting. Resolution aside, if you nerfed the the lighting and texture mapping on a PS3 launch title, you'd have this exact look.

>>6598670
A procedural marble texture.

>>6598842
BS

>>6598284
Have graphics finally reached the quality of those old renders. It feels like most AAA games are just looking worse right now.

>>6598519
That looks so bad. It's too clean and perfect which gives the whole thing an uncanny feel. It's the same feeling I get when I see RDJ in the Iron Man suit. CGI has definitely improved since the 90s but good art design has been dead for over a decade.

>>6598138
>>6598280
>>6598603
The concept of making Mario Kart remake is quite redundant, but I'd love to see a remake of Mario Kart 64 with this exact artstyle. Too bad modern Mario doesn't experiment with the game artstyle anymore.

>>6598994
I've always wanted MK to look like the SGI renders of MK64, the promo art and fake screenshots look so much better than the actual graphics.

>>6598138
I can't believe Wario is fucking dead

>>6598037
It was a common technique (especially for the era) for bringing out the metal shading.

>>6598027

>>6599176
Look, Listen & Live!

>>6599176

>>6598021
Look up the SGI Render 96 project on youtube. We already have it man.

>>6601018
Links to em
https://youtu.be/r4K00GJN8IE
https://youtu.be/HVLgx_VrGyQ
https://youtu.be/bS1tB6SAp5c

>>6601026
>>6601018
Doesn't really look like it. Needs some shader magic to get there.

>>6601108
Ill admit its about as close we can get to it atm but its still not the same. Yeah we need some shaders and shit on there, but it is close.

>>6598021
mario if he dural

>>6598979
>too clean and perfect
it's pretty obvious it's going for a 70's film look with the colour grading and film grain
i looked at the pic and assumed it was a film screenshot for a moment before actually reading the post

>>6598284
Wrong smoke

>>6598842
Go ahead and make a real time render then.

Didn't the OG xbox and gamecube technically had this look?

>>6601140
>but it is close.
no its not

Does anyone have anything like this stuff for the Half-life Gldsource Series?

>>6598548
2

>>6601564
Try it yourself. Open Blender and make a model using gouraud shading with no texture map. For surfaces that shouldn't look perfectly smooth, bump map the shit out of them. That will be your primary "texturing" method.
If you absolutely have to use a texture, use some N64 tier shit.
You'd get this exact look:
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>>6598842
even PS4 games dont have this poly count for characters. how blind are you?

>>6601925
The PS4 would have no problem rendering a couple high-poly character models with a simple background, or no background like what you're showing.
But if you tried pre-rendering a single frame of a PS4 game like The Order using 90s tech, it would be impossible.

>>6598647
OK clueless zoomie

>>6598760
That's the build-in scanline renderer of Softimage, which admittedly wasn't very good out of the box. No wonder everyone tried to use either RenderMan or the much cheaper Mental Ray.

>>6601954
all that work for such a POS game lmao

>>6598548

>>6598526
This.
This is why I think CGI from '90s movies have more soul.
You can shit on the rushed CGI in Escape from L.A. as much as you want but I still think it has more soul than CGI from most movies (especially MCU movies) nowadays.

>>6602118
There’s varying quality in those movies say for instance thanos looks amazing, as for your soul comment, most 90s animation looks terrible that being said I do have nostalgia for beast wars but I can acknowledge how dated it is

>>6598082
I'm glad I'm not the only one who gets these workstation vibes from playing and looking at melee, it helps a lot as well the fact that the in-game models actually looks almost perfectly like the renders used in the opening cutscene, it genuinely blew me away how close it is

>>6598138
technology is already there

all you really need is vintage filter

>>6602308
not bad, but completely lacking in motion blur

>>6602308
Resolution is too low.

>>6602308
Looks like ass
t. zoomer

>>6602308
no its not. the poly count and shading is nowhere near as good. just look at marios ear

>>6603583
That's because the switch is a joke when it comes to graphics capabilities. A high-end GPU could easily render that in real time at a decent framerate.

>>6603867
no its not. try posting an actual example that proves it

>>6598672
this was the point the balloon CG look started to look really ugly. The team at rare were not artists.