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6580528 No.6580528 [Reply] [Original]

Why don't you buy high-quality repros instead of expensive ass authentic games, /vr/? Why are you still so skeptical?

With a donor cartridge, the game was originally a different title, usually of very low demand like a sports game, for example. This means that the PCB is real, the capacitors are real, any resistors are real, and the shell is real! The ROM chip was replaced with the game featured in the title, and this game will play EXACTLY the same as the original cartridge!

These reproductions are GREAT for those folks who want to play these rare games on authentic hardware, but don't have the cash or the collector mentality to spend their life savings buying the authentic versions. This game cartridge will provide exactly the same experience as the authentic cartridge.

If the game has the save feature, the battery has been replaced, so don't worry about getting a game that doesn't save!

So why buy donor-based reproduction cartridges? Well, most reproduction cartridges, especially the ones from China, use a flash chip, not an EPROM, so they are not the same thing. Also, the ones made in China usually have very cheap cases that are not as durable as the original ones. Many of them don't work properly. Many of them have PCB's that are too thick and wear out your console.

>> No.6580559

I've considered getting repros of games I would have liked but didn't come out in NA, like Final Fantasy III for NES or Dragon Quest V and VI, but between the accessibility and ease of use of flashcarts and emulation I can't justify the expense.

>> No.6580564

>>6580528
Pretty sure this is a bait thread but anyway it defeats the purpose of collecting it if it is not authentic. May as well just get a flash cart with all the games at that point. Also there is no need for donor carts, most of those Aliexpress bootlegs feature re manufactured cases and boards.

>> No.6580571

>>6580559
I actually bought fan translated FF5, Seiken Densetsu 3, and Terranigma carts like this. They play great and its more like wish fulfilment to have the games I really wanted to play but couldn't back in the day in my current collection. Buy yeah, I probably over payed for them and flash carts are more efficient.

>> No.6580582

>>6580564
>>6580571
Aren't flash carts like 80 bucks?

>> No.6580586

>>6580582
stop being poor

>> No.6580587

>>6580582
Quality ones are but there are cheaper alternatives. You just might miss out on accuracy on a few outlier games that use special chipsets like MMX2 and 3 for example

>> No.6580595

>>6580582
Do the math, $80 worth of $5 repros is still only 16 games. Or you could play all of them for $80.

>> No.6580601

>>6580528
The do want=money rino is strong in this one

>> No.6580619

>>6580587
oh yeah we are talking about Genesis here. The Higher cost Genesis flash carts (Mega Everdrive) are quite worth it because aside from Genesis games you can also load Master System, Game Gear roms(I think), and foreign Sega Cd bios which in turn lets you play import isos AND you can use the flash memory as Sega CD expansion ram for save games. Fuck I need to get one for myself.

>> No.6580906

>>6580619
Yep, I have the old version of Everdrive MD and I can play Genesis, Master System and 32X games on it.

>>6580582
Around that much or more, depending on which console(s) you want it for. It's really worth every penny. I have one for the Genesis and N64 thus far. The N64 one was about as much as paying for all 3 Mario Party's and Mario Kart 64 put together. I might get an everdrive cartridge for the Neo Geo Pocket Color next.

>> No.6581187

>>6580528
Because I bought cheap ass authentic games before people started bandwagonning. Also, flash carts etc, exist.
I'm skeptical because it's the best way approach things. Much more effective than being an NPC bugman who shills repos because some youtubeer faggot told him to.

>> No.6581240

Fun fact: Deadly Towers uses a one-of-a-kind mapper, which means that cartridge will forever play Deadly Towers.

>> No.6581271

>>6580528
Because a good flashcart will do exactly the same and so can many backup devices.

So it has lots of original parts from another game - it's a frankensteinian cart, a gutted copy. Sure it looks like it, but you could have anything on the cart and a cover on it that looks like it. Maybe you could argue it as being like a fake painting which can sometimes have value in themselves, but still seems very tenuous.

>> No.6581778

>>6580528
>Blah blah blah
Not this stupid shit again. BOOTLEGS are for poors who want to collect and can't afford it. You're not fooling anyone with this cope. Not even yourself. Your shelf is full of fake shit. Go to a trade school, pick up something that makes decent money, then buy your precious expensive plastic. Otherwise, buy a flash cart and shut the fuck up.

>> No.6581795

Repros are hacked up garbage. Most of them have no reason to exist in a world where we have flash carts. I'd buy chink bootlegs before I bought some shit a guy hacked up with spaghetti wires and hot glue. Voultar's method of doing it without removing the original mask roms is pretty cool though. If you want to do that as a fun project knock yourself out. If you sell repros of expensive games by destroying original carts you are the human equivalent of dog shit.

>> No.6581797

If I'm buying to game, I'd save a bit and buy a flash cart and play any game I wanted. If I'm buying a dedicated game cart, I'll buy the real deal, otherwise I guess I don't see the point.

>> No.6581856

>>6580595
I cant afford a $80 lump sum and dont own a pc to even put roms on

>> No.6581865

>>6581856
do you live under a bridge? because an used laptop is like 20 bucks.
and if you do, I think you have bigger worries than /vr/.

>> No.6581891

>>6581240
dude weed lmao

>> No.6581936

>>6580528
What's the purpose of this over a flash cart? Seems like poser shit for fags who are mad they can't afford whatever autistic and usually terrible game is currently costing a fortune.

>> No.6581938

>>6580528
>that print
>high quality

>> No.6581947

>>6580564
this
unless you're certain you will play so few games that a set of repros costs less than a flash cart (if price was that big of a concern, why not just emulate?)

>> No.6581960

>>6580528
may as well just buy a flashcart at point

>> No.6581967

>>6581856
i picked up a used laptop for $30 that can run Nier: Automata (... barely, but still)
the absolute cheapest machines you can get are more than enough for 5th gen and older emulation

>> No.6582045

>>6581967
That sucks

>> No.6583264

>>6580528
>buy
If you want repros, you should make them yourself. Otherwise, what's the point.

>> No.6583392

>>6580528
Flashcarts are superior in every way.

>> No.6583442

>>6580528
>Why don't you buy high-quality repros instead of expensive ass authentic games, /vr/? Why are you still so skeptical?

Because I find it beyond retared, why not just get a flashcart?

>> No.6583672

I bought an Everdrive 64 and it's one of the best purchases I think I've ever made for a console, thinking about grabbing equivalents for GB/C and GBA

>> No.6583683

>>6580528
>high quality
>label stretched as fuck
okay

>> No.6583715

>>6581967
Automata is an absolute mess of a game, the fact it runs at all is commendable. Unless you're using FAR, which helps its performance issues.

>> No.6585732

>>6583672
I’m almost at that point because n64 emulation is still garbage and no controllers feel right except the real deal. But $200 is a tough pill to swallow to play a bunch of blurry early 3D games authentically, as much as I do love them.

>> No.6585769

>>6585732
what games do you want to play that don't work?

>> No.6585839
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6585839

>>6580528
Flashcarts exist. There's no point in buying this shit. It doesn't appeal to the collector, because unless you're some kind of real idiot, you'll always know it's not real. It doesn't appeal to the budget minded, because a flash cart isn't expensive and can literally play all the games and romhacks for the price of 1-4 decent games.

It relies on some subhuman niche that wants to pretend they have a real game to "pad their shelves" when shelves impress no one except eceleb worshipers.

Sure, if you have old shit yourself and a truckload of romchips, program them and play your own, but buying repros is an exercise in stupidity. It's your money, if you want to act like a retard with it, go ahead, but damn it's dumb.

Seriously, a repro is like 1/4 the cost of a flash cart, why would you ever do this?

>> No.6585841

>>6585769
To be completely honest the only one I can think of off the top of my head is Pilotwings, but that also accounts for like 50% of my n64 playtime.

>> No.6585847

>>6581240
As it should be. If you can curb the tism and draw maps, it's a fun game. The only problem is that enemies take like 10 hits to kill. Music is great, 8 direction controls, this came out before Zelda even. Very impressive for an early game.

>> No.6585852

>>6585841
Not who you're talking to, but honestly I don't even like N64 that much, but this is one of the better carts to have. It's really fun to play 64dd version of f-zero.

>> No.6586290

>>6583672
ez flash made cheap ones for both that have the full feature set including real time clock

>> No.6587065

>>6580528
I'm down with buying repos if they are cost effective. Although Im an emufag/flashcart user now it's still nice/cool to have a few games laying around just in case. And luckily the games that are being repo'd probably the ones worth keeping around.

>> No.6587105

There is a guy on eBay who takes shitty old sports games nobody gives a fuck about and takes the authentic cartridges and puts English translated Japan only games on them and makes custom sticker labels so it looks like something that would have been released at the time. It’s cool. He charges $39 a game.

It’s cool because a lot of the cheap repro Chinese carts on eBay and aliexpress the PCB are non beveled and thicker than the og PCB. So you basically have to hammer the cart into you console and it’ll push your contact pins too far apart so your console will have difficulties reading authentic carts. And pulling the carts out is hard and feels like you are breaking something.

>> No.6587110

>>6580564
I love my flash-cart. The big issue with it is how long it takes to switch games. I'm tempted to buy repros of the games my kids like to play a lot, so I can keep the one I'm playing on the flash.

>> No.6587112

flash carts make repros pointless

>> No.6587435

>>6580528
Repors worth nothing, if you are going that route just buy a flashcart you dumb fuck!
why people buy old paintings? thye can just buy a copy is the same shit lol
some people are just plain stupid like you!

>> No.6587578
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6587578

Repros are interesting

I used to make my own repros. This was back when you had to replace an entire eprom, and solder wires all over the place.

Eventually, I started strictly making repros of games by using the real, Japanese version of said cartridge. Its literally the game, just with a translation patch.

I haven't done so in like, 8 years. It looks like there is now a method where you dont have to destroy a donor cart. Simply lift a pin on the eprom, solder a removable bracket over it, and snap in your new eprom. Can be completely reversed.
Admittedly, now I just use a SUPER UFO Pro, load a translation on SD, and plug the authentic cart ontop.

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6587584

>>6580528

>> No.6587587

>>6587110
>muh kids play sega genesis

>> No.6587596

>>6587110
>muh kids play sega genesis

>> No.6587638

>>6587578
>This was back when you had to replace an entire eprom
And since the carts didn't use an EPROM that was never, making that the only true statement in your larp.

>> No.6587704

>>6587638

>larp
>LIVE ACTION replay
>this is the internet

Also, Amazing. You knew what I meant to say, and yet, you still chose to be an obnoxious cunt on the internet.
This is why you were bullied in highschool.

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6587708

>>6580564
>May as well just get a flash cart with all the games at that point.

This. At least collectorfags can justify all the plastic lying around if its authentic. Otherwise just get a flashcart.

>> No.6588396

>>6587704
>get caught larping
>ackchyually
>project
pottery

>> No.6589390

>>6587596
Sorry, didn't mean to flex by admitting I have kids, which means I've had sex. Or flexing by admitting they have taste and can enjoy the classics.

>> No.6589814

>>6589390
then you are shitty father, instead of wanting your kids to play what you play, let them live the time they are now, purchase your kids a fucking x box one or a ps4 you piece of shit!

>> No.6589830

>>6589390
yeah i'm sure your dad force you to play Fairchild Channel F, RCA Studio II and Bally Astrocade
"because he wanted you to enjoy the classics"
but stop being a dick and let them enjoy what they want, not what you want.
My damn god you are a terrible father, forcing your kids to be a carbon copy of you!

>> No.6590042

>>6588396

You can't larp on the internet. Thats the factual opposite of what that word means.

>> No.6590060

>>6589390
It doesn't count if you don't have newer systems.

>> No.6590118

>>6590060
Of course we do. Liking retro games isn't the same as shunning new games.

>> No.6590171

>>6585732
That was what got me. I ordered the V2.5 for around 100. The main gripes are that it doesn't play a handful of games (I think some can be patched, but I haven't dug deep yet) and you have to reset at the end of a game to save, but honestly, it was worth the money imo. The N64 analog alone makes a huge difference in playing the games.

>>6586290
Checking em' both out, thanks anon

>> No.6590631

>>6580528
>Why don't you buy high-quality repros
5 Player Battle Mode won't work on Super Bomberman 3 PAL repros

>> No.6590663

>>6580564
>it defeats the purpose of collecting

Collecting defeats its own purpose by not having one to begin with.

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6590980

>>6590042
>
>when you reddit space your cope
git fukt kid

>> No.6590983

>>6580528
doing this has actually made some sports games excessively expensive.