/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6582214
Yes, the red switch house is one of the most elusive areas of the game. Missing that will cost you more than a dozen stars.

>>6582232
This is the one that requires aiming the camera into the light in the foyer of the castle, right? Literally the only reason I ever knew that was because my cousins knew, and they had official guides.

>>6582214

Well I beat it 120 stars without a guide and without the internet, so i don't think so. The "mission" names give you a pretty good clue for every star and as a kid you explore the castle and surroundings until you have seen every pixel the game has to offer.

However, even then it was pretty much impossible to completely escape outside tips for the game. Naturally I loved gaming magazines and those always had a tips and tricks section obviously. Even the free Club Nintendo, as Nintendo Power was called here, had one I explicitely remember reading about how to get to the red switch secret room before getting to that point.
Still, I am sure that even without it with the light suddenly shining in there I would have looked up by myself.

>>6582273
Sure you would have anon, you’re just so dang clever after all.

The red switch secret room could've been fine if they'd included similar mechanisms throughout the game. It's the best way to teach gameplay mechanics hands down. Far superior to even manuals.

If he real

>>6582232
>>6582262
>>6582281
Why would you not think to look up into the light? I was a pretty stupid kid but even I did that without the game explicitly telling me to.

>>6582291
>bragging about his childhood habit of trying to look directly at the sun

>>6582294
>walk into castle for first time
>no light
>play game for a while
>go back into foyer
>there's a light
>huh weird
>walk into center of it and look up
>suddenly flying
I honestly think it's instinctual to behave like this. What else could the light be there for than to house a secret?

>>6582214
Blast away the wall
Secrets in the city
Pyramid puzzle
Snowmans lost his head

These are either not so obvious or the mechanics to get them are not intuitive.

>>6582297
>see light
>stare directly at the source
>fry your optic nerve
>use your handicapable text to speech program to brag about it decades later

>>6582305
It's a video game you retarded autist.
>>6582303
>Blast away the wall
Yeah besides the fact there's like ONE wall near the cannon and you can actually see the seams of the part that breaks off
>Secrets in the city
Just by dicking around you are going to find at least one of them, if you're familiar with how secrets have worked in other levels then you know there will be five of them, then it's just a matter of looking around and trying things.
>Pyramid puzzle
You already know it's inside the Pyramid so you go in there. Then if you find a secret then you know there's another 4 to find.
>Snowmans lost his head
I will freely admit this one isn't very well done and it can be difficult to figure out where you're supposed to be to make it go to the right place. But even at worst players will know how to accomplish the Star, they just may not know what exactly to do to make that happen. So at worst it's just trial and error until you figure out where you're supposed to be.

>>6582312
>brags about his sungazing experiences
>calls other anons autists
Yeah I’m thinking based

>>6582313
Shouldn't you be on /v/?

>>6582315
Shouldn’t you be on medication?

>>6582305

Even as a kid I knew that you can take a glance at the sun no pronlem, you just should not STARE at it.
The reason why you wear these glasses during an eclipse is not bcause you look at the sun, it's because it takes a while so you look at the sun A LONG TIME to enjoy the spectacle.

>>6582325
Oh look another fucking county fair champion sun starer country bumpkin reporting for duty

Big boo's balcony is by quite far the worst for that. Only one I couldn't figure out way back when.

>>6582312
You might be right about the red switch. I had it spoiled for me before I ever had the chance to discover it for myself so I can't really speak from experience about discovering or missing it. It seems obnoxious to gate so many stars behind what seems a fairly obtuse mechanic though.

I agree with your summaries for those four stars. As an adult I got filtered by the Snowman one, but the others were fine.
I ended up googling how to deliver the body to the head. Turns out I'd been very close, but slightly off. I lack the patience to allocate so much time to a puzzle like that. All I can think is that I'd be better off using that time for something productive, and that kills the fun for me. I'm a casual, so when the amount of effort I have to put in outweighs the amount of satisfaction I'm likely to achieve from solving a difficult puzzle I typically move on.

>>6582274
This but unironically as I also beat it without the internet’s help.

>>6582313
>>6582319
Looking up was the obvious thing to do. Kill yourself.

>>6582214
Maybe not but hint guides and magazines were a big part of gaming. For better or worse, Nintendo Power became just as much a gaming accessory as a controller. Plus word for around on the playground. "My brother said look up into the light and you'll go to a secret level"

AND you'd just naturally look up anyway since looking around was neat and there was light shining down

>>6582379
No it isn’t, merely thinking of doing it follows a pattern of irrational behavior that I’ve observed in you

Imagine being this mad that you missed an obvious in game hint a quarter of a century ago.

>>6582297
Yea this.. thou i had played loads of Zelda before where you actually have to think

>>6582398
Imagine being mad enough to look directly into the sun in a Mario game

>>6582386
>>6582407
Why are you obsessed with keeping up this character
You do realize that if you pretend to be retarded you're still acting like a retard, right?

>>6582414
What do you mean?

>>6582386
Tell me about this pattern, nigger. Have you witnessed me ignoring obvious hints in games like >>6582398 points out?

>>6582415
Well if acting like a retard amuses you I guess I can't really get upset at you anon. I can however think that you are a retard and hope you get hit by a car so you can't bother more people.
All this is to say your epic trolling has worked because I hope you die

>>6582418
There is a broad pattern of irrational thinking and volatile emotional well-being that you exhibit throughout this thread.

>>6582419
>being this upset
I only asked you a question, get a grip you loonie lmao

The only really bullshit one is blast away the wall. Inb4 people tell me I'm wrong for saying this.

>>6582425
You’re wrong

>>6582284
Based

>>6582425
>Yeah besides the fact there's like ONE wall near the cannon and you can actually see the seams of the part that breaks off

>>6582303
Wow nailed it. These all stumped me as a kid. I think I got snowman’s head back on by accident after trying many times.

>>6582305
Light has magical properties in videogames. The SNES also taught kids that rays of light lead to something.

>>6582449
So you’re keen to just kind of gawk at it without any eye protection then? Is this the mad lad general?

>>6582420
Don’t talk about irrationality when that was only my third post in the thread, schizo. That other anon is occupying so much space in your brain that you can’t even tell who you’re talking to.

The entire clock level was impossible for kids to figure out. Even by 1996 mechanical clocks had largely disappeared from most homes and kids would only be familiar with battery operated quartz clocks or digital. How would some 5 year old kid understand how a grandfather clock they had never seen IRL would work and figure out how to make the gears and cogs operate? That entire level was just bullshit and nobody in my aura of friends could figure it out.

That one where you can to walk with the penguin to not be blown off the giant snowman was bullshit.

>>6582451
Once again, it’s a Mario game, you autist. The same series where the sun once chased Mario and didn’t melt him

>>6582463
Yeah but he didn’t look at it you cheeky lad

>>6582451
Hey nigger it’s Mario’s eyes not mine

>>6582486
How would you feel if Mario said that about you?

>>6582467
He literally could and the player wouldn’t somehow magically go blind. I know the distinction between video games and reality seems blurry to you, but do try to cope with it.

>>6582492
Why play video games if you’re going to autistically fight against the sense of immersion?

>>6582493
Because looking up at a painted ceiling is so fourth wall breaking.

>>6582505
I’d advise you to read my post again and formulate a different response

>>6582337
This. That attic area was weird as fuck to find.

>>6582443
The entire level is made of walls. Maybe you can see the seams on a 4k emulated version of the game. Good luck seeing it on a consumer CRT.

>>6582523
It's visible on a CRT as well.

>>6582214
The snowman head one in level 3

I remember back in 2004 as a teenager I went to my friend's house and we decided to hook his old dusty N64 to the TV after years inside a box and play some Mario 64. He had his old saves intact and the best slot had exactly 119 stars he had collected as a kid. He didn't even knew there were 120 stars in total and there was a prize for collecting all stars (not native english speaker, bought the cart used without box or manual). We spent a while trying to find out what star was missing.

Turns out it was the 2nd princess slide star (Beat it under 21s if I recall). He had got the first star and moved on without going back to the slide

So yes, kids can eventually figure out all stars, even without understanding english or reading the instruction manual. Of course being poor is an advantage because when you have only one new game to play for an entire year and a entire collection of only four or five you will get every last drop of fun you can. Also there were no smartphones or streaming back then.

>>6582491
I would be really surprised. Normally I’m the one in control in this relationship.

>>6582523
Even if you COULD see the seams, how the fuck is a child supposed to know what that means? Especially if this is their first polygon-based game.

>>6582297
>go out at night
>no light
>go out during day
>light
>look at sun
>optic nerve go brrrr

>>6582291
>Oh, look, there's a light in the room! The star power I've been collecting is finally showing itself!
>never gives it a second thought and ignores it ever since

I never figured out blast away the wall as a kid, but I was also playing the ds version where the seams in the wall aren't so obvious

>>6582214
Even if it was, who cares? You only need 70 out of 120.

>>6583234
Truth

>>6582232
My aunt used to date this absolute chad of a dude who would sit down and help me play SM64 as a kid. He helped me at the ghost carousel level. I miss that guy.

>>6582214
No. I 100% the game when it was first released. No guide. No Internet.

>>6582214
Blast Away The Wall (literally had to get an older brothers friend to tell me how to do it, felt so gay having a 90% complete file and have a missing star on level 2 for so long)

A couple of the more arduous ones on Shifting Sand Land (more to do with difficulty than ingenuity tho)
Same goes for Tick Tock Clock

Its possible some kids wouldnt be able to figure out the Wet/Dry World jump in picture frame water level thing
The hidden door (by wall jumping) in hazy maze cave
Peach Slide Re-Match (First time thru did it once and didnt realize there was a 2nd star by doing it in under 21 seconds or w/e it is)
>what I mean it its unclear you have to do it twice for 2 stars


As for the look into the sun thing, that was easy for me. Because once you get (30?) stars the light becomes really obvious instead of just subtle. It seems obvious to look into it, to my mind. But then I got stuck on Blast Away The Wall for years, so huh

>>6582815
>Turns out it was the 2nd princess slide star (Beat it under 21s if I recall). He had got the first star and moved on without going back to the slide
This is a reasonable one, and I feel most kids did the same thing. It takes a certain level of vidya savvy to think "Oh, well the level keeps track of your time, so of course something will happen if I get a low enough time." And even then you have to know that you can jump over half the course in a blind suicide jump.

>>6583421
This was the last star I got and the only one I looked up, I wouldn't have ever tried that on my own.

>>6582214

So I got this game the day it came out in NA.

Within 3 days I beat the game, without help or a guide.

Within 1 week I got all 120 stars without help or a guide EXCEPT FOR ONE STAR. I had to call the Nintendo Helpline for it. It was the one where you had to get the rolling snowball to hit the snowman base to create a snowman. I didn't know that it followed you, so I was constantly watching it miss and thought it was random or something.

>>6583512
>. I didn't know that it followed you
This one always felt weird because it's like you have to go deliberately slower and move less skillfully to handle it. Neat idea but shit execution.

If I can just vent for a moment, the "Top o' the Town" Star in Super Mario 64 is easily one of the biggest misnomers in all of gaming history and perhaps the greatest blunder ever. Every other Star's name concisely summarizes approximately where Mario can find the Star with only minimal detective work at the most. However, as you may know, Wet-Dry World has two separate areas: the uptown, where Mario enters the course, and the downtown. The two areas are distinctly divided by a tall fence that you must shoot Mario into using the cannon. There are three Stars in the course that reference a town: "Go to Town for Red Coins," "Quick Race Through Downtown," and "Top o' the Town." At no point is this "uptown" area referred to as such and there are no structures that even remotely resemble buildings within it, whereas the downtown area is clearly a town and referred to by name in one Star. Nevertheless, the "Top o' the Town" Star requires that the player go to the very top of uptown and break one of those nondescript yellow boxes that usually hold only coins. This blatant oversight will inevitably confuse the player, leading to hours of fruitless searching in the wrong section of the course and, while I would love nothing more than to give this otherwise fantastic game a 10/10, I unfortunately must detract points for this error. 9.9/10, wouldn't recommend if you don't have the time necessary to solve this mystery.

>>6582214
How is anyone suposed to know you have to jump in the paintings?

>>6582303
The snowman one drove me insane as a kid. It just never worked

>>6584986
Ya fucking Autist.

>>6582815
>>6583326
>>6583421
>Princess's Secret Slide
Here is what the sign in the slide tells you, verbatim:
"Welcome to Princess Toadstool's secret slide!
There's a Star hidden here that Bowser couldn't find.
When you slide, press forward to speed up, pull back to slow down.
If you slide really fast, you'll win the Star!"
The game tells you that if you get a good enough time then you will be given a Star. The player's inability to read is not a flaw with the game.

Every single star is a pain in the ass to get to thanks to horribly broken controls and a pathetically bad camera. Mario 64 was a fucking mistake and one of the causes of modern gaming being a pathetic pile of shit where no one actually cares about GAMES having good GAMEPLAY any more.

>>6585079
Sonyshills are out in force today.

>>6585079

>>6585095
>sonyshill
PS1 was garbage, too. So many fucking style-over-substance shit games.
Retro gaming should be pre-1995.
>>6585097
Enjoy falling for a bunch of viral marketing and paid off reviewers back then that established shit gaming as the norm. Way to fall for it, idiots.

>>6582214
all of them
When i was a kid i dont think i ever got more than 10 starts without getting lost or not understanding what to do. wandering the area outside thr castle for hours. return the game to blockbuster in frustration.

anyone who says mario 64 is for kids is a liar

>>6585105
i cant believe gaming survived 5th gen. It was a disappointment

>>6585079
>horribly broken controls
You mean great controls? It has some of the best movement in any 3D platformer, easily besting games that were directly inspired by it like Banjo-Kazooie
>pathetically bad camera
Filtered by having to press R and then C-Down sometimes, pathetic
>>6585113
Jump into the painting genius

>>6585058
>playerz inability to read is not a flaw with the game
Literally is when you're making a kids game

>>6585123
It's not rated EC, it's rated E. It's assumed that children are able to read by the age of 6. If you can't read by that point then it's not the game's fault.

>>6585135
>children can read by age 6
Lmao what? A lot of kindergarteners don’t even know all their letter yet.

>>6585135
I didnt know to read until i was 10

>>6585058
>the Star!
'The' usually means 'one' in English.

>>6585137
Retarded and poor children are not the norm.

>>6585137
>>6585141
>Most children learn to read by 6 or 7 years of age. Some children learn at 4 or 5 years of age.
Also I never thought I'd see the day when "how was I supposed to know I'd have to know how to read to 100% the game" would be considered a major game flaw

>>6585135
Nah. Mario games shouldn't assume literacy. Its fuckin mario. It should be simple and magical.

>>6585135
games started being shit when the majority of them shifted into assuming the player was literate

>>6585150
Gas yourself old man, go play Galaga.

>>6585148
Don’t be a fucking retard, even if “most” “can” read, that doesn’t mean most can decipher what the signposts in the game or the mission titles are suggesting. They’re definitely written in a higher register than you’re pretending they are.

>>6585146
Nah. If youre making a kids toy and it assumes fluency in a language youve failed. Theres a reason mario took over the world in the first place

>>6585145
The sign establishes that if you go fast enough, a Star will be given to you. When you get to the bottom, you find a Star, but you think to yourself there's got to be another one because this one didn't spawn because you went fast enough, it's just the first Star that you get for completing it.
If you just pay attention to what the signs tell you then it shouldn't be that hard for you to figure out how to get this particular star.
>>6585149
>>6585150
Super Mario World and Yoshi's Island both include text that provide tutorials as well and back in the NES days all players were assumed to have read the manual before play.

>>6585151
Im a zoomer

>>6585158
>When you get to the bottom, you find a Star, but you think to yourself there's got to be another one because this one didn't spawn because you went fast enough, it's just the first Star that you get for completing it.
You don't necessarily think that, because you could've thought to yourself, "Hey, I did it fast enough, so this box contained the star! Moving on!"

>>6585146
i remember a crowd of kids around those sm64mcdonalds kiosks and they were all frustrated taking turns just wanderibg2. i asked whats wrong and they said they didnt understand what to do(basically). these kids were all 8-12. i had to show them the paintings stuff and one of the older ones just said
>thats stupid!

i think that was when i realized nintendo fucked up and forgot their audience.

>>6585153
Children can read, only toddlers and stupid children cannot. Hell, vidya is what had me reading when I was a small child, I couldn't play Vay like my dad could, I cast sleep on my own party when I was four. If a game is good then a kid will fucking want to read.

>>6585158
you dont need to read at all for the nes orsnes games . you do for m64
what little text there is doesnt need to be interpreted as its very direct and even then its unnecessary for playing

>>6582232
Are you retarded?
When you can access it, there's now a light shining down from where you are supposed to look where there wasn't a light before. It's extremely bright and hard to miss.

>>6585159
Then get the fuck off the site and go the fuck outside.

Blasting into that little corner in Whomp's fortress with the canon maybe?

>>6585161
I think the major dividing line here is that the game assumes you aren't an idiot and doesn't hold your hand. You may have to actually use your brain to get this Star, read the signs given, and figure it out yourself. It's also 100% optional to solve this puzzle. Why do you even want games to just hand the solution to all players so nobody has to think to complete any given task? Maybe this being a "flaw" would make sense if you HAD to get this Star to complete the game, but you don't. Not every Star is intended to be "just walk to where we tell you and here you go champ you did it".

>>6585169
I doubt the average child could *really* read and *really* benefit from reading the signs until they were 11-12. A lot of them are vague or oblique in nature. If you don’t think that’s cause for concern for someone marketing the game (to kids, remember), then you’re stupider than you look.

>>6585173
What's there to interpret about "if you go fast then you will get a prize"? This doesn't require deep thought.
They could have been more clear about it being a second Star but they make it quite clear that going fast = Star so they didn't screw up on that part. It's very direct.

>>6585182
This autist is literally arguing that because he could manage to figure it out, that even a child should be able to figure it out. I hope my self esteem never drops that low lmao.

>>6585175
What

>>6585182
>I think the major dividing line here is that the game assumes you aren't an idiot and doesn't hold your hand. You may have to actually use your brain to get this Star, read the signs given, and figure it out yourself.
Again, unless the game gave you a specific time to beat, you're completely justified in thinking that your time was fast enough to claim "the" star that it told you about. Has nothing to do with intelligence level.
>Why do you even want games to just hand the solution
Now you're putting words in my mouth. I should've known from the beginning that you were just another disingenuous /v/-tier shitposter.

>>6585182
Dude Are you really boasting about winning a kids game

>>6585189
>>6585194
>This autist is literally arguing that because he could manage to figure it out, that even a child should be able to figure it out.
I never argued that?
>Dude Are you really boasting about winning a kids game
No?
Huh, you guys can't read signs, and now you can't read posts either?
No but all joking aside I'm just trying to say that the designers trusted players to think, to try things, to experiment, and to solve puzzles. I don't consider this a game flaw unless they fail to properly give players enough clues to be able to solve the puzzle. In this case I don't think they failed to convey to the player what they need to do to get this Star.
>>6585192
>Again, unless the game gave you a specific time to beat,
Doesn't the fact that it times you at all provide you with enough information right off the bat to be able to figure out that getting a fast enough time will get you the Star?
>you're completely justified in thinking that your time was fast enough to claim "the" star that it told you about.
I agree they could have been more clear about it being a second Star but it just stands to reason to me that kids who think it through will be able to realize they didn't get the Star mentioned in the last line, for the reasons I've stated before (there being a time clock at all, the first Star just being there all the time no matter what your time is, the clue on the sign).

>>6585182
>dude if even MY retarded ass could do it, then some stupid kids could too!
Imagine typing that out

>>6585208
It’s implied based on your tone and what you’ve been posting about all this. You’re patting yourself on the back while comparing yourself favorably to 6-8 year olds lmfao.

>>6585208
>the first Star just being there all the time no matter what your time is
My point is that you have no reason to believe that that isn't the star for getting a good time. Maybe, MAYBE if you went out of your way to fuck around and not go fast you could've scratched your head. But for the vast majority of players, they have no reason to expect otherwise. You quoted the game itself—it explicitly says "a star" and "the star". It doesn't get any clearer than this in the English language.

>>6585209
>>6585213
I have never once said that "if I'm able to figure it out as a grown adult then kids at age 6 should be able to figure out".
>>6585216
>My point is that you have no reason to believe that that isn't the star for getting a good time.
I don't even know how many times I've refuted this point and you just keep saying it.

>>6585185
You're a retard.

>>6585220
>I don't even know how many times I've refuted this point and you just keep saying it.
You think you've refuted it, but you have not.

>>6585223
>no argument
Pretty much what I figured
>>6585220
You’ve been sitting here saying you figured it out, that it’s easy, and then saying 6 year olds could also figure it out. This implies through a causal relationship that you see yourself on the level of a 6 year old. Whether you intended that or not isn’t any of my business, but it’s there and multiple anons have picked up on it, infantilizedbro.

>>6585229
>You’ve been sitting here saying you figured it out, that it’s easy, and then saying 6 year olds could also figure it out.
I never really said it was easy. I've actually said the designers felt confident putting in Stars that serve as puzzles because almost every Star in optional, implying I already know it isn't the easiest Star in the world.
>>You may have to actually use your brain to get this Star
>>Not every Star is intended to be "just walk to where we tell you and here you go champ you did it".
>This implies through a causal relationship that you see yourself on the level of a 6 year old.
Not sure why assuming a child should be able to think is a controversial stance
>>6585227
>You think you've refuted it, but you have not.
Yeah, if you just ignore all the arguments I've made. Which you keep doing over and over again.
>>The sign establishes that if you go fast enough, a Star will be given to you. When you get to the bottom, you find a Star, but you think to yourself there's got to be another one because this one didn't spawn because you went fast enough, it's just the first Star that you get for completing it.
>>What's there to interpret about "if you go fast then you will get a prize"? This doesn't require deep thought.
>>They could have been more clear about it being a second Star but they make it quite clear that going fast = Star so they didn't screw up on that part. It's very direct.
>>I agree they could have been more clear about it being a second Star but it just stands to reason to me that kids who think it through will be able to realize they didn't get the Star mentioned in the last line, for the reasons I've stated before (there being a time clock at all, the first Star just being there all the time no matter what your time is, the clue on the sign).

>>6585236
Are you really that hostile to my critique that you pretended to completely misunderstand the post you replied to? Or did you actually just completely misunderstand it. I could type to you on a first grade level if you like, if that helps you.

>>6585236
>I agree they could have been more clear about it being a second Star
That's my argument, and you just conceded to it. We were done ten minutes ago, yet you still persist.

>>6585242
>they could have been more clear
Is not the same as
>it is not clear enough to be reasonable to expect a child to be able to figure it out

>>6585249
>if I could figure it out, a young child could figure it out too!
Again with this crap lol

>>6585250
>>if I could figure it out, a young child could figure it out too!
Nobody ever said this.
Not sure why I ever expected anyone on here to be able to think rationally or not act like a retard, but I guess the joke's on me.

>>6585249
Okay, we'll go deeper into your retardation.
> the first Star just being there all the time no matter what your time is
This presupposes two things. That a second star exists, and that the time you got wasn't sufficient. Why would anyone, regardless of age, think that? Again, unless you went out of your way to fuck around and waste time, you have no reason to believe that you didn't just get the necessary time. You had no idea that a second star even existed, because this is your first time playing the game, and the game went out of its way to tell you that it's "a star" and "the star". It's easy to say this sort of shit with after-the-fact knowledge, but the very fact that your first post was what the sign said, and you just admitted that the sign was misleading, proves that your argument was shit to begin with. Sit your ass down.

>>6585251
You pretty much did anon, and the way you stick up for how well 6 year olds critically think suggests you’re identifying as a 6 year old for the purposes of this argument. You’re saying “yeah I coulda dunned it at 6, duh huh!”

I got all 120 stars when I was 11 or 12.

This was pre-internet and I didn't have any friends who had the game.

>>6585260
He said that 6 year olds should be able to read and think well enough to beat the game and approach getting 120 stars. No ones arguing that a 12 year old couldn’t pull it off. The point is that 12 years old is almost the highbound age for who they market too

>>6585251
dude like every post you make has been you trying to gloat about being smarter than a 6 year old or about how EVEN you can figure out a game for 6 year olds youre so incohdrent2. how many people do you need to tell you this

>>6582303
>>6585180
>Blast Away the Wall
This one fucked with me as a kid mostly because I was convinced it had to do with the Bullet Bill canon at the top. You know, the only Bullet Bill canon in the entire game, located in one arbitrary spot.
I also had a similar issue with Big Boo’s Balcony because I assumed getting to it had to do with jumping through this hidden boo portrait above the main entrance.

>>6585315
>cannon*
It seems I am, in fact, retarded

>>6585079
Just got 70 stars today , (first time playing the game).
And i was kinda frustated by the controls and camera also.
Is it better with the n64 controller ? i played with xbox one controller and a 8bitdo .

>>6585396
when in doubt about the camera try pressing R and then C-down and after that move it left and right manually

>>6583004
This

ITT: I totally didn't use a guide! I was a genius :)

>>6585256
>You pretty much did anon, and the way you stick up for how well 6 year olds critically think suggests you’re identifying as a 6 year old for the purposes of this argument. You’re saying “yeah I coulda dunned it at 6, duh huh!”
I can't believe that having the opinion that children are not all brainless retards totally incapable of logical thought is considered controversial.
>>6585265
>dude like every post you make has been you trying to gloat about being smarter than a 6 year old or about how EVEN you can figure out a game for 6 year olds youre so incohdrent2. how many people do you need to tell you this
You'd be right, if every post I made was completely different.

>>6585885
>pretending to misunderstand the point yet again
What a childlike thing to do, but it won’t shape anyone’s opinions differently.

>>6585887
I'm just so tired of trying to talk to you retards. I get it, it's really cool and funny to pretend to be retarded. You did it, you got me annoyed. You won. Got me. I know I'm a retard for expecting to be able to talk sensibly with people, that was my mistake.

>>6585909
No anon, the reality is that you’re tired of being obligated to look inwards and self search. It’s understandable but a bit of a pity. Please leave the thread now.

>>6585058
There are in fact two stars hidden there, contrary to what the player reads

>>6585915
What does this even mean?
You're right in that I should leave because being epically trolled is doing nothing but annoying me and it feels like masochism at this point that I even bother reading the responses anymore.
It's just so annoying when you're the only one who cares about actually discussing something logically. I get that it's just a video game and we're all here to waste time or whatever but. It's just disheartening. Like you suddenly realize you completely wasted all this time because the people you're talking to aren't even trying to understand, they're just shitposting and manipulating you because that makes them laugh. It's just a sad moment where you realize that this place truly is just nothing but unreasonable assholes.
And if you've been actually genuine this entire time and weren't just pretending to be retarded... Jesus, I don't even know what to say at that point. "Wow", I guess? It would be kind of sad for you to actually be that stupid.

>>6585186
Are you autistic? Nobody is talking about Nintendo screwing up, 120 stars is a huge undertaking for advanced players. Yet some of them are very very hard for kids to figure out on their own, and that might be a good thing.
If you get a prize there's no reason to think you were too slow to get the other prize, especially when the sign says there is "A" star, not two stars.

>>6585189
kek

>>6585932
I said leave

>>6582401
Channers hate on n64 for a reason. They can't think. Hence why this thread was made about an utterly easy game. Even the n64 users here can't think.

>>6585962
>Channers
Who the hell talks like this? Are you a “Tranner” maybe?

>>6585964
>no one talking about transsexuals
>suddenly someone brings them up for literally no reason

STOP watching porn.

>>6585978
I asked you because your post really “fits out” from everyone else’s in the way that a tranny might “fit out” of a crowd anywhere they go

>>6585984
No. back in the day when 4chan was THE imageboard to go to, people said just 4chan or 4chaner. As the place went to absolute shit I now say channer because there's currently no alpha dog imageboard right now. So, people flip flop around on them. Or, they simply don't like them due to being new or retarded.

>>6586072
Yeah you’re blending in real good anon, keep it up. Lmao

Everyone posts about how you were supposed to know to blast the wall but that's bullshit, how were you supposed to know about the owl to get into the cage?

Everyone got blast the wall on their own because it's incredibly easy to hit it while aiming for the cage with the cannon.

>>6585964
rent free

>>6585885
Feminists have been trying to make people think that children are retarded to the point of not understanding what babies are until 16/18/21 so it makes sense that the slippery slope would slip at this point that current members of society would, childishly, assume that we were always this stupid.

>>6585950
Feminist.

>>6586079

>>6586076
I started using 4chan in literally 2009 and am 31. I got here late a bit, but not as late as you something tells me if you're that "must keep up with the exact same posting style" autistic. I bet you think r e d d it spacing is real.

>>6586087
I don’t think I asked for your backstory retard

>>6586092
I don't think I need your permission to tell you off zoomer.

Also, I knew about 4chan earlier than 09, but didn't have Internet access.

If you're not interested then don't go and shitpost about who you think people REALLY are, baka.

>>6586094
>If you're not interested then don't go and shitpost about who you think people REALLY are, baka.
holy fuck lmao

>>6586096
>this is an argument!

>>6586098
Did you ride a special, more compact, bus to school?

>>6586101
Yes. You see, because, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but I am your father. I was afraid to let you go to school alone so I used to follow you there, and I'm so short I passed as a child and would just drool to sneak in. It's why you're so short.

Since your mother committed suicide on account of discovering your piss bottles though I no longer care and that's why I ran off.

cya

>>6586104
Yikes, try breaking the pills in half tomorrow.

>>6586113
>>yikes
Uninstall parrot.exe

>>6585185

What?

I was 9 when the game came out and I read and could read every sign perfectly fine, you should be able to read your own native language at that point.

>>6586120

>>6586128
Literally being able to read something and comprehending the nuance of a poor transliteration written with an air of mystery are two very different things

>>6583326
>The hidden door (by wall jumping) in hazy maze cave

Fuck this, the one that you see behind the fences with an elevator behind it but it is actually acessed from the maze. The only one I needed to buy a goddamn guide to find the solution and it was right there. But I swear I walked that maze up and down and never saw that part you could jump.

>>6582303
for some reason I could never do Mario's Wallkick as an 8 year old
I didn't know how to get to that extra area

>>6585250

Even that bold claim is completely justified though if you were a kid yourself when figuring it out and regarding yourself as average back then.
The whole point is that you are saying: If I was your average neighbourhood kid, not amazingly intelligent, not unbelievable dumb, just "normal", and I was able to figure it out, then the average kid in total should be able too. An example is not a proof but it IS a counter to for example the bold claim "This was too hard for kids to figure out", which implies ALL kids, which you disprove by example.

>>6586237
It's funny that you ignore the post that so thoroughly destroyed your argument and told you to sit down.

>>6586237
why do you keep coming back to the thread infantbro, holy shit lmao

The fact that this lunatic has repeatedly posted with cat images reinforces my pet theory that toxoplasmosis makes you a crazy faggot.

>>6586271
>>6586131
see: >>6586079

I'm not the one with the problem. You're disturbed and discriminative against not only the lgbt community but now also introverted cat owners. .

>>6586284
So I was right, you're not only crazy, but you're gay. And you constantly post cat images, so you likely have cat(s). You're basically a crazy cat lady. I can't quite pin your sex, but that ultimately doesn't matter.

>>6586293
Lol
As if women would spend their time arguing about XX century video games on anime imageboards

>>6586446
sometimes the wife and I will sit together, get out our laptops, and post gen 6 threads on here

>>6586452
Based sixthies

>>6582232
Haven't played this in a while, where is tje red switch house?

>>6582454
>>6582454
Don't be silly

>>6585165
I was 7-8 when I played SM64 and had no trouble with that

>>6585185
Are you American, by any chance?

>>6586104
I'd rather be a zoomer than this moron.

>>6586135
Which a 9-year-old should be capable of.

>>6587298
Every copy of Mario 64 is individualized, so you'll have to find it yourself.

>>6587341
post a picture of your wrist

>>6582214
Obviously that depends on the child right? I think most children lack the patience or determination to get all 120, but not the acumen. Even a really frustrating star like the wet dry elevator one probably only takes about 20 minutes to figure out at the absolute max even if you have no idea what to do.

The real question is how many kids can focus on solving a specific problem for 20 minutes.

>>6586452
I started with Gen 3 but Gen 6 is still based and good
Something happened in the transition from 6 to 7 and everything became glitchy, gritty and gray

>>6587536
The problem w/ putting Gen VI on here is how it evolved over its lifespan. The early Gen VI games aren’t really a huge leap ahead of latter Gen V games, but by the end of Gen VI you’ve essentially got a primitive version of the current state of affairs. Thus while we’re missing out on some comfy discussion of 2000-2004 era gaming that would feel at home here, being too permissive really would open the floodgates and ruin /vr/ (not that calling everyone a zoomer and reliving playground arguments from 1995 hasn’t already done that to an extent).

>>6587536
Even early Gen 7 still has some good stuff, it just happens to be the gen that also fucked everything up.

>>6587560
Don't think it's such a big deal, don't think many people are hyped to talk about games like Call of Duty 2: Big Red One.

>>6583004
>why the fuck is there sunlight indoors? can't see from this angle so I better use the camera to get a better look

>>6587598
>oh look, the sun, better gaze at it mindlessly to make sure it's not waving back at me

>>6582214
-No one played this game in a vacuum
-you only need 58% of the stars to beat the game
-Playtesting a game to make sure any person can find the solution organically is incredibly hard to do since you can only play it for the first time once.

>>6587614
>incredibly hard to do since you can only play it for the first time once
you've obviously never worked in design in any meaningful way.

>>6584986
Fuck I also struggled with that star

>>6582214
The 20 second star on the secret slide was ridiculous for me as a kid to figure out. I was stuck at 119 until one day I tried to see how fast I could do the secret slide. I was in that moment beyond the NINTENDOSIXTYFOAR kid in reacting.

>>6586113
Only redditors use "yikes" go back

>>6587536
>Something happened in the transition from 6 to 7 and everything became glitchy, gritty and gray
Western developers happened.

>>6582232
>elusive

maybe if you've never played another video game in your life

>>6588069
Look, another anon who made a hobby out of staring into the sun. Whole lot of em on /vr/ for whatever reason

To the people who couldn't figure out 120 stars by themselves, did you also get filtered by pic related?

>>6589017
Yes, absolutely.

>>6587869

It's also a facebook meme. Boomers say it all the time now, along with the in-joke variant "sekiy".

>>6583421
True. Me and my bro got that star by chance because we used to do races down the slide to see who'd be faster and randomly got it one time.

>>6582214
The secret slide star, I never found it on the N64, it wasn't until I found it in 64DS that I went back and felt like the biggest idiot.

>>6589782
Go back

It's a kid's game. Lol... Grow up

>>6588078
Nah, he made a hobby of attacking people who didn't get something that he got, it's makes him feel special and dominant that he got something in a game decades ago that you didn't.

>>6582232
It's one of the first things I ever found in the game, as soon as I got enough stars to access it. I guess I just liked to look around a lot. I did that in oot too.

>>6592664

>>6582214
the 121th

Im baffled by the anons who had trouble with Secret Slides 2nd star. So youre telling me you only went down the slide once? I must have done it 100x simply because it was fun to do, and continued even after getting the second star.
You retards are really autistic, lmao.

>>6592690
Well I think a lot of anons ITT are neglecting to mention they were told about the star or they read about it. Why lie about it? I don’t really know, maybe they think they’ll get some esteem from strange autists out of it. It’s /vr/ though, what should I expect?

>>6582214
Kind of.
Since some stars really depend on the "riddle" at the star selection screen, some translations are really not helpful.
Growing up playing the french version, some were really counter-productive.
Blast Away The Wall is roughly "fire at the bricks".
Tall Tall Mountain's Mysterious Mountainside in particular is hard to figure out because not only is the place in an area you do not often go to, but the name translates to "weird wall" which is the opposite of helpful.

>>6589017
My mom could do this one

>>6582214
I didnt know Toad gave you stars until I was older and could read. I also could catch that stupid rabbit.

>>6595479
I could do your mom.

I could only find like three stars. I quit and gave up. I have no idea where to go in this game.

>>6582214
Blast away the wall.

>>6582443
>actually see the seams
Emulator with LCD zoomer detected.

Nope.

the one with the snowman head, and the one with the canon and the wall