/vr/ - Retro Games

bleh

>>6576429
Every fanmade town is autistic. You already have 9. Why the fuck do you need more?

>>6576482
Do you not want to fight Ancient Egypt?

Posted this right when the thread moved here so I'll repost here

>>6575481
>>6575497
It's a vaguely Alice in Wonderland inspired faction (the Jabberwock at the end should be a dead giveaway). The Dodo in Alice in Wonderland is one of the earlier things that brought it into mass public consciousness.

>>6576482
>we already have 9
You mean 8, Conflux will never be a real faction.
>be 3DO in 1999
>ok guys we have to come up with a new faction after the anti-hota guy's dad sent us death threats over forge
>ooh ooh, we have a fire,water,earth and air elemental as neutral creatures, lets just make an elemental town!
>and add faeiries too for pride month and giant flamboyant chickens, and a fucking cape with starts, call it a magic elemental or something

>>6576552
if you want sandniggers then go play heores5

>>6576553
dervish town will never ever be added to hota because it already contains mobs belonging to other factions, or do you want two types of identical genies,manticores and medusas?

acolytes/mystics/rouges/nomads could be just slapped onto any faction because why the fuck not? anubises are the only "original" idea and the biggest cringe as a straigt up lazy copy paste from egyptian culture that every normaloid can name

cupids are animated creatures like golems and golems
homunculi are man made abominations like beholders
salamanders are summoned creatures like genies
musketeers are soldiers with advanced weaponry, canons exist in vannila h3 but musketeers make you butthurt? rly nigga?
dodos are summoned magical beeings that have even more right to be in the game than fucking faerie dragons
mandrakes are wierd yeah i dont get it, i guess they are forest spirits like treants
jabberwoks are cool, evil creatures of chaos

as i said it works because its an ORIGINAL IDEA about a late midle age-esque neutral faction between wizards and warlocks, im sorry your pea brain can not understand or appriciate anything outside of popular culture, , go watch the mummy for the 17th time this year and leave the brain storming for those with an actual capacity

Factory when?

>>6576594
I like the Conflux town screen and music. Sprites and Phoenixes were in the older games so they're a nice addition. The elemementals suck though, awful idea.

>>6576552
No, fuck off. This is HOMM, not AoM. It doesn't fit.

>>6575864
>Dervish town
Haven't gotten around to playing Succ yet because it glitches as soon as I start a scenario but this is a pretty good lineup. Reusing H3 monsters that weren't in H2 was a smart idea, makes it feel authentic.

My only nitpick is the top tier. Genies are supposed to be part of the common "townfolk" of Bracada similar to Ogres in Krewlod or Dwarves/Elves in AvLee, thus making them rare all-powerful beings feels inconsistent with the established lore.

New HotA cutscene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qae5lCCyIgk

>>6576728
thats because the original team was still there to do that job

>>6576731
what and the fucking anubisi are okay? when donkko does furry shit its evil but when its in egypt town all yall wannabee jihadis lose your shit

>>6576739
Anon...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism

>>6576438
Based blehposter

>>6576743
>t. Лeнтяй

>>6576736
Live from the Factory pride parade, gay dragons

>>6576739
>t. retard who never played MM6

>>6576765
>armored dodos? you're crazy get out of here
>shield and sword mice? perfectly lore friendly, new level 1 oasis unit

>>6576782
MM1 wasn't even on Axeoth. Fucking schizo.

>>6576796
I mean, Enroth. Fuck.

>>6576594
Except Conflux is "fairy" town representation in H3. It shares many sorceress heroes from H1 and H2 Fairy towns, overall bright whimsical atmosphere that completely gone in Rampart. It reintroduced classical Phoenixes and sprites.

So Conflux is "Elementals" PLUS "missing H2 sorceress", not just random creatures to fill tiers after elementals.

>>6576754
Kys

>>6576852
This post brought to you by Bad Dragon

>>6576921
> HuurDuuur Bright colors mean GAAAAAY

>This post brought to you by Bad Dragon
Are you aware H3 has many dragons of all shapes and colors?

>>6576782
>Existing shit mob is justification for new shit mob

>>6576754
>colors are gay

>>6576782
I completely forgot about that part.
>introduce Rodent race
>never bring them up again
MM lore is wild.

>>6576989
t. Anubites

HoMM or JA threads, which is the bigger nerd slapfight?

>>6576731
>Egypt town
Very nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldP1QDcA--g

>>6576754
BASED ANON.

Only fags wants colors

>>6576782
>not even the same setting

>>6576984
Yeah why not add another one and call it a couatl
It's not a couatl it's a FABULOUS gay dragon

>>6577052
implying more units is bad
implying more dragons is somehow bad
The dragon is pretty different from others.
It's not even "another town with dragon at T7 " case since you already have Dreadnoughts at T7 and Couatls are a bonus unit.

What's the problem apart from "Colors makes me feel insecure" ?

>>6576754
>muh grimdark
>muh lgbt

Just proves my theory that if Heroes 2 came out today it would flop because modern day gamers retch at the sight of vibrant colors

>>6576731
>Anubites
It's those guys from VARN, isn't it?

Where were you when HotAragers were exposed as zoomers?

>>6577084
Wow that looks...absolutely nothing like the gay HotA dragon

>>6576736
>>6576739
Please keep this shit on Furaffinity, Donko

>>6577123
Keep coping, zoomer

>>6576438

>>6577152

>>6577070
So, Putt-Putt games would be an ultimate weapon against them?

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>>6577158

>>6577160
vampire faction when?

>>6577135
It looks nothing like your fag dragon, there is no cope, your design sucks

>>6577160
After making this post I tried starting Succ again and suddenly it worked. Only glitch I ran into was a missing model file in one battle (it was a stack of 12 but after attacking them once I insta-won the battle). From what I can tell the mod is fairly solid, I'm impressed. Witch is more or less just Fortress (Wasps have the Dragonfly effect) but Dervish is fun to play and harmonizes with the other factions as well as the overall aesthetic of the game.

The mod also reminds me that Heroes 3's biggest strengths are its fast pace and accessible interface. Them combined with Heroes 2's art style is really cool.

>>6577213
Meant to quote >>6576731

Carry on, blehposters

>>6576594
>Conflux will never be a real faction
Considering the town was quickly mashed up after 3DO realized that they failed with the Forge, it turned up pretty good both aesthetically and lore-wise. An arcane conflux conjured by the elemental lords to answer the threat of destruction of Enroth, a town of magic through and through.
>Conflux lineup whining
Wtf faeries and "giant flamboyant chickens" that were part of original homm2 lineup are now somehow bad? Why? Phoenix is one of the coolest and most beautiful creatures in the game and elementals are fine, fitting the town just right, what is with the hate?
>that pic
>pride month
>sandniggers
wow you're not even trying with your trolling anymore lol; stop projecting /pol/ bullshit on everything that you see, especially on things where it simply doesn't exist.
>dervish town will never ever be added to hota because it already contains mobs belonging to other factions
now that you mentioned it, homm3 lineups are far from perfect and I wouldn't be all that against mixing up the creatures around some, for better rosters/balance. H3SW roster in pic related is probably the best lineup in any heroes game ever imo. And the reason why the creatures are "simple" is quite a logical one and it was given by the devs, let me repeat it here:
>The dominant factors are "simplicity", which means that the creature must be well-known in popular culture and its name must be available to guess just while looking at its exterior, "mythological origin", which means that the creature is likely to come from mythology or old-age religious images, and "fairy-taleness" which means that the creature cannot be a grimdark D&D concept, it should look like a creature from a child game, when even the skeletons are smiling and zombies are clumsy. This is what pretty much defines the Heroes 2 creature pool.

>>6577084
>MM8 party
>not 5 dragons

>>6577225
(cont.)
>Complex philosophy concepts are pretty much not required, because Heroes 2 is a simple game. I don't want to see any kind of Lamassu or Naga or other concepts from modern games where the designers had to think their brains out for a newer image so they had to dig deep in not-so-well-known mythologies of the East. Heroes 2 is a Western game, and all creatures portrayed there are Western in origin, and even the Genies/Nomads are so generic because that's how they look in the eyes of Western people. Disney's Aladdin included.
So as you can see, comfiness >>>>> everything else; what more can you ask for? In case of Dervish, creatures were obviously drawn from desert/Arabian Nights/Egyptian themes and if the Dervish town ever comes into HotA, it won't be all that hard to think of a few matching substitutes, since it allows for a bit more "complex" inventions. Giant Scorpions and Scorpion riders, Ugallu, Horse Archers, Serpopards, Giant Snakes, lion creatures or cat-folk, Sphinx, Lamassu, Mushussu - plenty of options to explore and test out. And it would work since it is a "meta theme" taken from the context of desert cultures. Crapyard on the other hand doesn't work, not only because it's lineup is all over the place and has some very retarded entries, but because it is aping a very niche theme - Alice from the Wonderland - and you can't throw something like that in homm and expect it to fit. It isn't the problem that the town is not "original" or that the author wanted a renaissance mage-knight town with muskets, it's a problem because it has Jabberwocks and dodos in it. Might've went for card soldiers, mad hatters and walruses while at it and complete the memes. Nomad faction on the other hand exists in homm lore - from the Bracada desert the first mages came and established Tower - and this can be expanded upon in the game so it fits well and isn't disruptive. There are hints about it in HotA as well, Cove hero Manfred being the prime example.

>>6577213
yeah, it's awesome, I'm honestly taking a liking to it more than to SoD/HotA; it is a simple, refined, ultracomfy, heroes experience, I just hope they will implement all the benefits of HD mod when they arrive to v.1.0 release. Bear in mind that the Witch faction is mostly placeholder for now - you can see that the buildings are a literal Fortress copy paste - since one of the hardest things H3Succ devs stumbled upon is producing homm2 artwork that fits with the existing art. They will change it thoroughly before the final release and we are still waiting for another faction to be added to the game - Heretic.

>>6576594
>Phoenix
>ancient mythological symbol of sun worship dating back to 3000 BC
>"lol gay chicken"

Nothing personal, kid

i'm trying to play the campaigns to learn the game and just because they're fun. but i keep getting exploded 1 week in by some guy who already has level 7 units charging into my starting area. what should i do?

>>6577256
>lvl 7 units
Use a 1 stack to take the ripost away and hit it with everything you have, you can also hit it with a spell. Don't rush for the capitol, it's not always worth it. Try going for higher level creatures. Use hero chains to clean your area faster, to get the ressources you need to get higher level creatures.

I'm assuming you are playing Heroes 3. H3 campaigns are pretty easy, you should be ok :^)

>>6576754
>>6576921
>>6577052
>>6577123
>>6577179
>>6577240
I see that your raging butthurt is still going strong from all that homosex you've been having, worry not you will all be added to the faggot meme where you belong, your contribution and coming out is appreciated. Thank you and stay gay.

>>6577225
Owlbear>Satyr imo

Jungle faction is a lot better though.

>>6577074
yup, but that isn't stopping faggots that know literally nothing about MM lore to shitpost, reee and whine for no actual reason

>>6577271
amazing screenshot, thank you friend. Though I disagree, owlbear looks atrocious imo. I think it was scrapped like most of the other cancelled units - kobold, ghouls, hipogriffs etc. - for either being too similar to some of the existing ones or dnd vibes that didn't match heroes. Lol at tarantula though and trogs looked cool. Can't wait for the Heretics to come, Nightmare/Hellsteed is one of the rare WoG designs that was spot on and I hope they add Succubi as well to bolster the "inferno" lineup. Interesting to see that the Knight theme/roster was so rock solid from the start it literally remained the same.

>>6577225
>they failed with the Forge
what was actually wrong with the forge sci fi has been a part of might and magic since day one

>>6577271
Are lizardmen the only creatures who get an upgrade in the witch's town and peasants the only ones who don't in knight's?

>>6577290
>Interesting to see that the Knight theme/roster was so rock solid from the start it literally remained the same.
I'm glad they stuck to the spirit of the farm/knight faction of homm1-2 where it really is the mundane human might faction.
It could've easily gotten a supernatural element like an angel and demoting the paladin/crusader, or adding in a griffin knight or some kind of mid-tier flier.
Going from 1 to 2 ranged units is really the best fit imo if you aim to keep their thematic nature of mundane knightly might.

>>6577269
>tfw HotA is made by literal furries
Lmfao

>>6577297
Most homm players didn't play mm, so it clashed with their perception of the setting.
The internet wasn't as widespread back then so people wouldn't pick that stuff up as easily without specifically playing it.
homm made a new planet so the ties to mm were extremely loose, until they made mm games on Enroth that completely ignored everything that had happened in homm1+2.

>name personal project: Heroes of Might Only.
>abreviature is HoMO
Damn it. I thought I had found a cool name. I'll change it to "Knights of only Might"

>>6577297
to quote Greg Fulton himself from the interview that he did last year:
>As for my personal thoughts… I think the cancellation of the Forge content, and its subsequent replacement by the Conflux content… was a blessing in disguise. My answers to subsequent questions reveal my reasons as to why.
> I vaguely remember the initial conversation I had with David Mullich as to the competing visual styles. At the time, year 1999, when David dropped the name Jules Verne, I immediately thought of 20K Leagues Under the Sea, Journey to the Center of the Earth, H.G. Wells, War of the Worlds, The Time Machine, etc.
>What was being proposed was art deco, and I had envisioned the Forge being a horrifying, corrupting, evil faction. To me, the WW2 option made more sense. Later, Phelan Sykes (HoMM3’s Lead Artist) showed to me a number of different books with ‘oppressive’ art deco architecture. Where David pointed to Jules Verne, Phelan pointed to the movie Metropolis. Phelan wanted a very gritty, very grungy, very squalid conception of what we today commonly call ‘steampunk’. After my conversations with her, I was sold on the direction.
>Weeks later, I began to realize, what Phelan had envisioned, and what the NWC art staff could deliver, were two very different things. Initial work on the Forge was not promising. After the Forge was cancelled, I told David I had doubts about the ability of the NWC art staff to deliver on what Phelan had in mind. David thought, as it was with HoMM3, it would take a lot of effort and numerous revisions to get what we wanted, but he thought it could be done.
>In hindsight, was NWC capable of realizing the Forge concept? I have my doubts. I could have easily revised the troop line-up to deliver something more traditional, but in the end, my biggest concern was art.

>>6577330
I think there is a vanilla map for it. Like, all magic is forbidden.

>>6577330
>New Obstacles: Heroes of Might Only

>>6577330
how about Heroes of Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might

>>6577331
(cont.)
>Phelan Sykes gets nowhere near enough credit for the work she did as Lead Artist. With David Mullich’s assistance, she, Scott White, Adam McCarthy, and George Almond, carried the NWC art staff to a level of quality they simply hadn’t reached before. With HoMM3, the NWC art staff overachieved. Unfortunately, when it came to the Forge, I think we simply asked of them something they simply could not deliver.
>A small dedicated team with a clearly defined vision could certainly pull it off. My suggestion? Embrace the basic concept, but don’t be afraid to deviate from the original idea, or play around with the troop types. For artistic inspiration, I would point to Ubisoft’s April Fool’s concept art and the miniatures game Warmachine.
So it's not as much that the idea didn't fit, the problem was how to execute it correctly so it meshes well with the established fantasy vibe of heroes. According to his words, something like Cryx would probably fit best.

>>6577330
Heroes of Might or Strength

>>6577318
Is this true? Who is a furry among the HotA devs?

>>6577232
That was my experience too, I've grown so used to HD mod's features (e.g. heroes exchanging armies while in town) that I instantly noticed the lack thereof in Succ. Should be fairly easy to implement though once the mod is finished.

>>6577331
Steampunk Forge would have been great

>>6577337
HoMaMaMaMa Mia!

>>6577307
Agreed, quite a different feel from the Castle in homm3 and a better one at that. An additional shooter was a good decision, a compensation for a total lack of fliers - makes for a harder game when besieging towns - but damn it feels great once you break through those fortifications and storm the keep. I like how all units in H3SW are quit a bit more chunkier and that Leadership, Luck and Ballistics are far more relevant skills; most of the time they are an easy, certain pick over anything else.

>>6577332
yup, that would be the SoD scenario "Heroes of Might, Not Magic"

>>6577378
But that's Factory...

>>6577407

>>6577407
No THIS is Factory

>>6577425
no, that is your MOM lmao

>>6577425
(you) again

>>6577434
Woah i didn't know Picolan was into mpreg

>>6577425
>that little white triangle background bit in the lower left that was not edited out properly
autism: triggered

Mods and fan made expansion packs are garbage

>>6577467
corporation bootlicker
Go play your MM Heroes 7 or that pachinko Castlevania

>>6577443
what is mpreg?

>>6577496
Male pregnancy. This hota-hater knows his furry stuff too well

>>6577485
Lmao retard I'll just go play something new, once you start dipping into the fan made garbage maybe it's time to try a new game.

>>6577360
Donko has a furaffinity page and those fags usually cluster

Do you think this royalty free music sound heroes-like? I want to use it as background music for Heroes of Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might and Might

https://files.catbox.moe/qkpn2r.ogg

>>6577339
>Ubisoft’s April Fool’s concept art
in case anyone was wondering

>>6577525

>>6577528

>>6577536

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>>6577509
so someone at hota team is a furry.
Is this why you think you are righteous posting furry shit second thread in a row and whine about gay dragons?

>>6577564
Uh oh somebody's being fursecuted!

>>6576429
Are HOMM1 and and HOMM2 worth playing or should I go to HOMM3 straight away if I am a newbie? Also which of the OG Might and Magic games should I play before playing HOMM?

>>6577610
HoMM 1 is really nice in my opinion

I literally just came to this thread for the first time with no knowledge of HOMM aside from watching my brother play the fourth game, what the fuck is this HOTA and Pride Stuff drama? What even is HOTA?

>>6577617
A bad mod made by Russian furries to suit their needs for hot seat games at their orgies. Avoid.

>>6577624
Sounds awful. How did such a mod even happen in a community as niche as this one?

>>6577617
A godsend mod that prolonged Homm3's life, bring new quality on pair with original content every year. It's main version for online play too.

>>6577624
And this is our special hota-hater who is trying to troll /vr/ for the last 2 or so years because he is butt hurt about how one ability was changed for balance purpose.

>>6577610
homm2 and homm3 are worth playing, when I've made top lists I've switched them around, the last two years I've played more homm2 I think, but overall I've probably played more homm3
homm1 is worth trying, but I find that it gives a bit of a redundant experience compared to homm2, while homm3 is more of a sidegrade of a change.

>Also which of the OG Might and Magic games should I play before playing HOMM?
None

>>6577617
>HOTA
A mod that introduces a new faction (pirates) among other things.

>>6576736
>when it's pride month

>>6577610
>Also which of the OG Might and Magic games should I play before playing HOMM?
They're set in the same lore but don't worry you don't have to play any of them in order to understand HoMM's story.

That being said, Might and Magic 6 is probably the best game for people who want to check out the series.

>>6577617
HotA is a fan mod that's popular with the multiplayer crowd but controversial with purists (in other words just like any other mod in history lol).

>>6577520
Not really. If I had to compare it to something, I'd say Divine Divinity. Sounds nice though. Where did you get it from?

>>6577418
Baste

Why are HOMM threads so active recently? I swear before it was a few posts per week

>>6577746
non stop shitposting

>>6577746
Pride month is a big deal to the heroes of might and magic community.

>>6577746
Summer

>>6577629
Idk, I thought they beat furries to death in Russia.
>>6577746
Kinkshaming and a few rage inducing new memes

The shitposting is honestly just embarrassing. It's something you'd entertain yourself with if you were a 10 IQ underage. There's no finesse to it, it's just a troll so blatant and lacking in effort that if you stop giving him (You)s he'll probably implode from lack of attention.

>>6577617
Fan-made expansion for H3. It's a fantastic mod that together with fan-made HD mod really revitalized the game with new content, especially in multiplayer department. There's no "Pride stuff" drama, the mod devs added a quetzalcoatl (google what it's supposed to look like) and the trolls immediately latched onto multicolored plumage like they're some kind of backwards Russian politician getting triggered by US Embassy putting up the rainbow flag (even though, you know, a coatl is supposed to have a bright rainbow plumage).

>>6577227
This is the party you can get on the Dagger Wound Island before the first dungeon (which is what you're seeing on the screenshot) before you even get dragons. You can technically skip it though.

>>6577775
>even though, you know, a coatl is supposed to have
Like legs?

>>6577775
it's just one hota spazz, same as the slow spammer; he's replying to his own posts, the poor little fuck

>>6577789
>taking sentences out of context
typical misleading bullshit; also
>couatl
>legs
yeah, artistic freedom is king; this is not mesoamerican mythology class, this is a fantasy world where anything goes. Not to mention that couatl has a human form as well, why he wouldn't have a dragon form too.

>>6577806
>tfw a post ago you were going FANTASY CREATURES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THIS WAY
lmao this guy

>>6577816
you're replying to a different poster idiot. Take your meds

>>6577721
Not that anon, but why 6 specifically?

>>6577775
>There's no "Pride stuff" drama, the mod devs added a quetzalcoatl (google what it's supposed to look like) and the trolls immediately latched onto multicolored plumage like they're some kind of backwards Russian politician getting triggered by US Embassy putting up the rainbow flag
Welp

>>6577789

>>6577839
MODS, this shitter is doing it again.

Listen, pal, how many times we should say it - we don't care about your furries! You are the one bringing this shit here.
You are literally obsessed drawing gay porn with "picolan" and posting "pride" shit you won't shut up about.

WTF is wrong with you???

>>6577860
Don't feed the troll

>>6577789
Yes

>>6577775
gay bird lol

>>6577863
I... just... it's Heroes 3. The game from 1999. Two decades old. Is this "fan" of the game got elderly craze?

ITT:

>>6577735
I got it from one of the japanese sites I get royalty free music from.
That one I got it from http://mart.kitunebi.com/index.html

>>6577887
iirc Heroes 4's soundtrack is actually royalty free music as well. The album is called "celtic airs and ballads" I believe although I can't find it anywhere online right now.

Maybe you could use music from that album (or a similar one), this way it would be pretty much guaranteed that it sounds HOMM-esque.

>>6577860
>STOP REPRODUCING MY WORK WITHOUT MY PERMISSION! MOOOOOOOOOODS?

>>6577871
Nice fursuit bro

At least the descendants campaign wasn't buggy.

>>6577876
I think HoMM's fanbase is relatively young as far as retro games go. There is still young blood getting into the game thanks to an active scene of multiplayer, modders and mapmakers.

>>6577910
>>6577887

Good thing it's still up on soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/samples-now-com/popular-tracks

>>6577934
But why a newcomer would be so ass-blasted by resistance rework?

>>6577838
6 is where the Windows games start and tie-in with HoMM. If you have done DOS dungeon crawlers before then 3 or 4 are better.

>>6577910
>iirc Heroes 4's soundtrack is actually royalty free music as well.
It's like half and half. Some of it is using those samples you mentioned, some are original compositions.

>>6577838
Visually it aged far better than 1-4 and 7-9 have some controversial gameplay choices, dungeon designs etc.

>>6577948
Oh, nice. Thank you, I love Homm4 music.

>>6577948
Great find

>>6577972
I wouldn't say 7 and 8 are any more controversial than 6. Yeah, they're much easier and have far smaller dungeons but I'd argue content in them got a bit more creative. Don't sleep on X though. Yeah, it doesn't really play like a traditional M&M title but it's a good blobber with a pretty fun combat system. Honestly, I'd even wager that as a game it's better than some of the classic titles, I just wish it was more open and had more content in it instead of being literally scraped together in Unity from leftover assets.

>>6577950
>removes skill from game
>"rework"

I've been playing the shit out of Total Warhammer and it reeks of Heroes of Might. It feels like someone took the overworld game and built onto it more, while turning the turn based battles into an RTS. It even has sieges that are basically the same with a few tweaks like battering rams for the gate and towers to get on the walls.

>>6577991
>Heroes of Might
Idk what the fuck happened to the "and Magic" part. I swear to god I typed it.

>>6577990
It's in the game.
There was a long discussion here that ended with
"options in map editor are TOO HARD"

>>6577948
what the fuck?? the music wasn't made by Tom Romero and Rob King ?

>>6578004
>Tom Romero
this lazy ass has never written anything for Homms

>>6577948
It's honestly pretty funny because even Witcher 3 uses some of these tracks. Really threw me off when I was playing. Then I was playing monster hunter world, which has a w3 crossover that uses one of those same tracks.

https://youtu.be/vGPf7hoc4gc

>>6578004
>Tom Romero
literally who

You guys talking about music brought me back to this banger, and man, I wish HoMM had an Underwater biome, shit would be fucking wondrous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zavpuZH0go8

>>6578004
It's called sampling, and yes Paul Romero made the music for homm4.

Why is MM6 music so comfy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fm33MMa9d_A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edcrJh-wzms
>these chirps

>>6578010
yeah. But also all jingles came to be from libraries too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCj__wQGkhU

(there's a track called "lonesome cowboy", THE IRONY oh shit)

H2 jingle in South Park
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpkA680H4f8&feature=youtu.be&t=37

Back 2 the Future 3 starts with Grail Jingle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zejzjnZvD2M

AND FINALLY, a whole "remix" of H4's subterrain theme in the anime OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KE3ipBrOeA&t=4713s
(of course that means this track was from some library too)

Speaking of music, a neat little connection between Mandate of Heaven and Heroes 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5XjRBTEpU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cobNe-NQWIU

It's the same wind. Noticed this randomly while revisiting the OSTs on youtube.

was making underground in HOMM3 a mistake? literally what's the point lmao
Especially when it's so boring
Most of the underground in the campaign is "here is this long tunnel"

>>6578065
What about h3 necro theme and h5 title theme

>>6577163
Kek

>>6578036
Surely this isn't a surprise to anyone? Stock materials are used all over the place in games.

>>6578071
That's just Dies Irae that Romero loves to quote all the time for some reason.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr90NLDp-0

>>6578067
easy x2 map size

Now let's play that sweet sweet G-sized map with underground.

In NWC's HoMM5 the wanted to ditch underground for exactly the same reason. People used it as second map and not just little treasure pouches underground.

>>6578081
Dies Irae is overused.
If you are following Hollow Knight Silksong, it's literally leitmotif of trailer theme and possibly whole game

>>6578015
hmmmmmm homm has "Ground Level" which is terrain + water. And we have an Underground level...but how would an Underwater level work in a TBS game like heroes? I remember AoW SM having a "third map layer" for the Shadow dimension (Ground+Underground+Shadow), so this might not be all that impossible. You would need a submarine/bathysphere/"underwater vessel" to reach it however or a creature/hero/spell that would allow you to dive down. Essentially any point on the sea map would work as a "gateway" to the underwater layer since it would all be connected. And you could have multiple layers there, representing different depths, for example - Shallow; Deep; Abyss. I think something like this was never done in any TBS game I know of. Extremely intrigued by the possibilities of having an entirely sea-based faction and another layer added to the map.

>>6578092
Why not just put a cap on underground tiles? Like 15-20% of map size.

>>6577727
Probably wouldn't be controversial at all if they didnt try to rebalance the factions.

>>6578112
No need to artificially limit user options, just apply good practices in mapmaking. What UG level could benefit from is more visual variety so that you could match underground tunnels to overworld biomes. UG tileset in H3 kind of looks like shit to begin with though, partially because of the topdown perspective. I'm not a big fan of Heroes 4's unit models and animations but environments look top notch.

>>6578115
If they didn't try to rebalance the factions people would just use the good old MP banlist rulebook they've had before the mods. It's not like you can't just play 4.0 SoD anyway if you so desire.

>>6578124
sorry friend, this just looks like shit to me when compared with homm2 or 3

>>6578138
Go back to sperging about HotA.

>>6578145
>express dislike for H4 graphic design
>hoda sberg :-DDD
a little bit paranoid, aren't we now?

>>6578124
>No need to artificially limit user options
I mean, like make it a default settings for random maps and in editor.

>>6578067
how do you mean that it's just a "long tunnel"? You have locations to visit, monsters to defeat, towns to capture in underground as well. It's not empty, same as the "above-world".

>>6578167
is this a fan map?
underground campaign maps are just "here is a tunnel that goes through all the map with twists and turns", like literally the first ROE campaign

>>6578067
this nigger, I swear

>>6578181
>RoE campaign
bro, that's like what, 20 year old vanila shit? You know how many great scenarios, campaigns and fan made maps there are now? We have the technology now, get with the times old man.

Can't believe I didn't think to name outriders "dervishes". Dervish doesn't even really fit a horse archer anyway, if anything they should be "outriders". Also, if I'm being honest, I don't really care for gold or diamond golems, even though they look egyptian. I kinda like that sandworm from factory, and I would really like a wall-breaking, moat-ignoring oliphaunt or something.

>>6578225
what is this? Your take on the desert town?

>>6578338
Yes, for homm3. Steals ideas from the "bastion" russian mod town and the succ wars "dervish" town.

I somehow never realized that every base game faction was represented with these.

PSA: cove mage guilds can never have blind

>>6577972
>Visually aged better than 3/4/5

>>6578396

>>6578448
Yeah might and magic always had good graphics for the time and I think 3 has nice enough Sprite art to be approachable by anyone. I swear to god everyone who hates on 3 got their asses handed to them by mooserats in fountainhead and just gave up.

If you see these words
>dervish
>anubite
in your nearby Heroes fanfic, you're talking to a heroescommunity plant with 0 imagination.

>>6577225
fine, untill yesterday i had completely forgotton about faeries pheonixes and the old sorceress town, rampart does a way better job at being a nature town, if you dont like my homophobic and racist posts you can just report me to this subreddit's moderators

>heroes2 factions with random out of place mobs and 2 shitty made up factions without out of any actual reason why they would work together
>perfect lineup
KEK
we are talking about h3 but you keep pushing h2 shit and this town, are you

>>6577228
scorpions with horse archers and giant snakes? you're the same guy who complained about the musketmen, the fucking level of mental gymnastics you are going to to justify shoveling up everything from the bottom of the cliche bucket but oh no we cant have a wizard/warlock themed faciton imploy whacky summoned magic creatures, make way for the flying pyramids!

>>6577543
>no tits
dropped

>>6577990
>adds a new skill in the game that serves the same purpose

>>6578067
litteraly nothing wrong with it having a new unique biome and more room on the map thats not directly connected on the overworld

>>6578167
who the map maker that thought that snail of a conflux area looks good with the same copy pasted trees 15 times?

>>6578225
RoE campaigns are dogshit

>>6578225
>pharohs/mummies/golems/rougues
kill your self

>>6577275
>TNG party shitting up glorious TOS dungeon
Go away Picard.

>>6578954
>this entire post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmsRN78qMxM

>>6578095
This. And even then, it's used wrong most of the time, it's just used as a subtle leitmotif. I think the best implementation of Dies Irae is how Seventh Seal used it during the Procession scene. That shit was kino.

>>6578954
>Subreddit
Leave. Right fucking now, you fucking Leddit tourist.

>>6577910
Still I think Romero's version is better than the original and other versions, sea dogs one for example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb7BlNwfE5s

>>6579081
He won't, he's here to aggressively shill his furry shit

>No Memes Allowed
>Opens thread with a meme

Also, top quality thread. I'm done with this general, it's just unbearable to be a hostage of bunch of retard arguing with each other non-stop about shit only they care. Thanks for ruining the threads with your sperging

>>6579121
>>No Memes Allowed
>Opens thread with a meme
WAIT ANON COME BACK I NEED YOU TO TELL US WHAT BEING AN UNIRONIC GAY RETARD IS LIKE

Is MM1 and MM2 still worth playing?

>>6579054
maybe you could actualy bother replying you wannabee KANG and not just screetch like a retard over your mumies nomads and gold golems

>>6579081
>>6579091
what do you mean? my pals at furrafinity told me this place is reddit 2.0 and from your posts they were 100% right

>>6578167
What map?

>>6579121
See you tomorrow.

>>6577775
>There's no "Pride stuff" drama, the mod devs added a quetzalcoatl (google what it's supposed to look like) and the trolls immediately latched onto multicolored plumage like they're some kind of backwards Russian politician getting triggered by US Embassy putting up the rainbow flag
Welp

Which is the best MM to start with? Which (if any) should be skipped?

>>6578954
what's wrong with having a hindu or muslim or african-themed town? Wizard/warlock is just same old european stuff that has been done again and again for seven games...

>>6579281
M&M6

>>6578954
>nature town
Rampart is a worse town than Sorcerers, simply because it was skewed more into a blander nature-only theme, away from the original sorcery-druids idea which was way more awesome. The town is also more balanced in homm2 than in homm3 imo with a more interesting roster, some of which was reused for Conflux (thankfully).
>homophobic
>racist
>subreddit
>KEK
is it possible that braindead retards from /pol/ go to every single place, no matter how remote or autistic, to shit it up with their idiotic notions of reality and how things are supposed to work? Fucking unbelievable. Damn right I'm going to fucking report you
>whining about dervish and courtyard
You are now just projecting your bullshit left and right and have apparently no interest in conversation apart from propagating whatever is your subjective notion of how heroes should be designed. The creatures that I mentioned as possible alters for a homm3 Oasis/Dervish faction were all drawn from either Egyptian/Mesopotamian/Persian/Arabian mythological stock - which all tie into the desert/1001 nights theme this town is going for. And I never complained that heroes shouldn't have a Wizard/Warlock faction - it has each of those already - or a funky mage-knight faction with odd summons and muskets. I said that drawing inspiration from "Alice in the Wonderland" is too disruptive for a game that bases it's factions on more general, overarching themes, not transplanting things outright from other fantasy works. As if you had Uruk-hai instead of Orcs, Khorne demons instead of Horned demons and Landsknecht instead of Swordsman - it is too specific. Homm is not fantasy "Capcom vs Marvel'" and it would ruin it if it was.

>>6577775
>There's no "Pride stuff" drama, the mod devs added a quetzalcoatl (google what it's supposed to look like) and the trolls immediately latched onto multicolored plumage like they're some kind of backwards Russian politician getting triggered by US Embassy putting up the rainbow flag
welp

>>6579341
>You are now just projecting your bullshit left and right and have apparently no interest in conversation apart from propagating whatever is your subjective notion of how heroes should be designed
I see this is your first stint with the "HoMM3 is a joke because Mass Slow on turn 1 autowins every endfight" shitposter. Take it easy and stop responding.

>>6577330
Heroes of Might not Magic.

>>6579308
That's the starter or skipped one?

>>6579354
>It's just one person, I'm telling you
I wasn't present once for a month due to a delegation. Read archived thread upon return. Guess what? Someone was doing those posts when I was away and someone else was doing "it's just one guy" posts, too.

>>6579364
I kind of don't want to believe, for the sake of my sanity, that the bit I quoted in your post applies to multiple people. I genuinely can't believe more than one person can be this stupid.

>>6579369
>4chan is just one guy
>This is somehow more safe and sane than assuming more than one person can have a particular opinion
Ok...

>>6579369
you guys are very annoying, whoever wants heavier moderation should just stick to reddit or any of the thousands forums that exist out there.

>>6579354
I just don't want to give up on having actual discussion and conversation about heroes and surrender it all to blatant shitposting, I have patience

Recommend me a good scenario my dudes, I've had enough of random maps.

Do male fairies exist in heroes/mm?

>>6579389
it's not at all about heavier moderation or people having different opinions, it is about idiots incessantly spewing bullshit out of their own ignorance regarding how the game works or is played or what can or can't be part of it's lore. And when confronted with facts and explained why exactly they are wrong in their statements, they refuse to listen to reason and continue on shitposting. It amounts to nothing, but dilluting the conversation into meaningless memeing and spam. Same as with hota hating morons or tourist /pol/tards. It has nothing to do with heroes, they are just dumbass trolls.

>>6579467
>what I say is FACT
>what anyone else says is bullshit from dumbass troll morons
>carries on more than anyone else itt
Please leave

>>6579467
if you think it's a dumb post don't reply to it, you're the one who fuels trolling because you can't left harmless gay bashing unanswered.

>>6579479
>harmless gay bashing
it's not harmless, it's a microaggression that normalizes gay bashing in public
also it's completely offtopic

>>6579305
all of the actual suggestions have been unoriginal as fuck, its either a 1 to 1 representation of egyptian cliches or a chaotic mix of random neutral monsters stuffed together for reasons, shit why dont we have a dragon faction made up of azure,rust,crystal and fairy dragons? and lets throw in enchanters halflings and sharpshooters too, boar riders aswell and trolls - so original!

>>6579341
>fairy shit more intresting than actual druids
>homm2 being more balanced than 3
lmao

>muh /pol/ boogeymen are behind every post
dial 8, donkko

dodos are not obscure and Jabberwock fits perfectly in the medieval setting, go watch the 77 movie, h3 is already obscure enough to a point where you would assume the average player would know abit more about the fantasy worlds outside of disney and ancient alliens, i will always oppose wanna be egypt/arabia town exactly because they are so creatively bankrupt, by your logic we should add romania town because its got a bunch of stuff people know and it has a general theme

>>6579354
hi there anti-hota resistancefag, stop trying to pin your autistic whining on my noble cause of having actualy cool shit in heroes

>>6579437
try out Unholy Quest if you havent

>>6579494
This is why you need to go back to whatever Russian furry forum you crawled out of to advertise HotA
This is 4chan, faggot

Peak aesthetic. Which is your favourite, Anon?

>>6579494
>it's not harmless, it's a microaggression that normalizes gay bashing in public
welp

>>6579494
>>6579518
>>6579525
i am now firmly convinced that Donko is in these threads

>>6579494
this must be bait

We are having a nice weather today, aren't we?

Also I'd honestly say H3 and H5 Hydras are a tie for. I kinda miss all these 'unit evolution' images nowadays.

>>6578036
>subterrain theme in the anime OST
Not just one look up Twelve Kingdoms/Juuny Kokuki; for H4 fan it is worth just for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dou85d3JTk8&list=PLSwH11le3xVkfP5h1ch9k3jwvwWya22vT&index=18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERNsERUy6Kg&list=PLSwH11le3xVkfP5h1ch9k3jwvwWya22vT&index=53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHcrkxQ0Cks&list=PLgFaaZhCUDLSieVm_Fese4BqO9mkpHmpF&index=2

Also sevelar tracks in Warlords Battlecry 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REjNLP0ODl4&list=PL0AA7FC255269DFC1&index=5

>Fresh install of HoMM3 HD
>Can't pan around with the mouse

What da fug.

>>6579541
Damn, everyone wants a piece of the Homm4 Wandering theme or whatever is called in the celt album

>>6579564
Desu i have heard Flowing Across Water some ungodly number of times but none so memorable as those tracks mentioned above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2i4n5l9Pt0
Hey, hey people

>>6579496
>dervish hate
Why do you think Arabian Nights/Middle-East mythology is "creatively bankrupt", it's one of the most well-established themes there is, almost archetypical. It's like saying "medieval knights" are creatively bankrupt. Some things are just cool every time they are used. And like it or not, moving neutrals to some of the towns or mixing up rosters - every heroes game has done that, either to better balance things out or change the balance of power between towns or to fit a different theme. Being "original" for it's own sake, throwing random shit into the game just because it is in stark contrast and different from what is already in makes no fucking sense. Might&Magic and Heroes games are already as cliche fantasy as it can get with a cliche sf spin on top, you are just trying to implant some idea of originality that exists only in your mind's eye and it has nothing to do with the games or MM lore itself - least of all, fit into it.
>lmaoing at homm2
>with more subjective bullshit
I see you haven't even played it and for your information, Sorcerers town actually had druids as a fucking unit, unlike rampart where it was demoted to yet another samey magic hero class. H3SW is using best out of the two and will soon surpass them both.
>/pol/
yeah, using words like sandnigger and KANG and saying that you actually want to be intentionally racist and homophobic is straight /pol/tard street. I couldn't give a rats ass for real-world politics in heroes and if you're a blind retard that sees pride parades whenever a rainbow is mentioned or muslim terrorists if something is arabian-themed, you need to have yourself fucking checked.
>dodos and Jabberwock
Jabberwock is just an ugly dragon and dodo is a dumb, clumsy, dead bird. And this is somehow "cool" and "original"? You didn't even address any of my points explaining why this doesn't fit heroes but I guess you are beyond reason. Targul town is as dysfunctional as is Crapyard, for the very same reasons.

>>6579496
>my noble cause of having actualy cool shit in heroes
You have neither skills nor dedication to create anything, and your screachings will never be taken seriously or probably even noticed by the people who actually mod the game.

>>6579474
What I say is fact when it is supported by factual experience from actually playing the game in both pvp, not just pve. This remark about "facts" was just for the slow spammer and his ilk.
>>6579479
agreed, lessons learned
also
>harmless gay bashing
>microaggressions
>donko furry shit
honestly all three of you can go fuck yourself, donko whoever included. I don't care about faggots and their imagined victimization in today's society and I don't want any of that pride/trans/furry shit where it doesn't belong, especially not in my heroes fucking games. A rainbow is just a fucking rainbow and flamboyant colors are just colors, if you look at either and see two guys sucking each other off in front of children, you are either a closet homosexual or need to take your fucking meds right now. Kindly fuck off.

>>6578954
its "rogue" you subhuman mongrel

>>6579437
HoMM3: Adventures of Jared Haret
HoMM4: Beebee and the three pigs

So, fellas, if I make a map where every faction is equally represented, how do I balance things a bit when it comes to inferno and necropolis? Is it mostly just an issue with multiplayer? I assume if I upload a map somewhere that it can be used both single and multi. Right now, necropolis has a bit less total land in their home biome than other factions and inferno has probably the most, with the map being designed to make it hard to get out of your home biome early.

>>6579523
I can never decide if I like hydras with snake bodies or lizard bodies; they're both neat in their own right, but I do like the homm2 hydra the best.

>>6579523
I never played it, but Might and Magic 3's Hydra looks psychedelic as hell

>>6579161
what's that green genie?

>>6579698
you mean MM4? The one from 3 looks like a regular multi-headed dragon, the one from 4 looks like stuff from drug-fueled nightmares

>>6579523
sssssssssacha

>>6579689
>how to balance Necro and Inferno
Hm, I've run into this problem myself. One attempt was adding 2 CPU-only Inferno players in addition to the 4 Human players. Their starter zones were small in sandwiched in between the Human players, so they're more of a nuisance than a real threat, and if you play Inferno you end up with more towns of your own type. But that could have tipped the scale too much.

Right now I try to put a few Inferno dwellings in non-starter zones, e.g. an Archipelago type map and one of the islands has an Efreet dwelling.

Another option is Seer's Huts. HotA recently added a "Be a specific class" quest type so you could make Seers that only give something to Heretic or Demoniacs, or to anyone who isn't necro.

As far as Necropolis goes giving them a small or strategically poor starting position is probably a good idea. Maybe put less (or no) external dwellings to counter necro farming.

>>6579727
Right, that's the one. Looks like something you'd run into in the 90s Windows maze.

>>6579730
>>6579523
Heroes 1 was the first game I played and that's the hydra that comes to my mind when it's mentioned.

>>6579725
It's Conflux's commander (a unit that levels up with the hero) from WoG - Astral Spirit.

thanks doctor

>>6578396
Always tingles my autism that the most anti-magic faction (Stronghold) gets the "Crown of the Supreme Magi"

>>6579494

>>6579523
Agreed h2 Hydra looks the best

>>6579689
the issue with necros is mainly with skelingtons; necromancy overtime will net you a ridiculous amount of troops and this was somewhat managed in HotA by halving the % of skellies you get back with the skill, from 10/20/30 to 5/10/15 - but it is still a big payoff, especially with heroes who specialize in the skill. The second big threat are Vampire Lords. I honestly am not sure how could you manage this without crippling their starting zones and making them poor - which is kinda unfair. The best way may be that you provide other biomes with a higher amount of adventure map locations where you can boost attack and defense primary skills, that should even things out, but don't do it too much.

For Inferno, the easiest way to balance them out is by giving them a bigger pop growth than the rest - place a few external dwellings in their immediate territory from where they can recruit their creatures - but not too much. Larger pop will allow them to scale better with the more quality units the other castles have, you will just need to be careful not to "spoil" them too much.

>>6579949
pretty much what >>6579748 said too, didn't see his post on time

>>6579924
supreme *ogre* magi, probably
maybe they didnt have enough room

>>6579748
>HotA recently added
>>6579949
>this was somewhat managed in HotA
Fuck off
If we're going to talk about HotA we're going to talk about their gay furry dev team until you stop

>>6579984
Why are you shitting the thread? What's your problem?

>>6577330
>"Knights of only Might"
I'M GONNA HOOM

>>6579984
no we're not, because the dev being a furry, ancient alien, rastapharian or whatever is entirely irrelevant to the changes done to the game mechanics itself. Nice giving you a (You) before you get deleted, ta-ta faggot lover

>>6579986
amygdala hijack

>>6579998
>no we're not, because the dev being a furry, ancient alien, rastapharian or whatever is entirely irrelevant to the changes done to the game mechanics itself. Nice giving you a (You) before you get deleted, ta-ta faggot lover

>>6580019
Everything's GOOD and GREAT unless it's not what I LIKE! Fuck your beliefs if they don't align with mine! YAY PRIDE MONTH FUCK YEA!

>>6580019
tryhard faggot at that lol; get rekt

>post graveyard

What's going on here

>>6580086
hota

>Thread isn't up even for 48 hours
>Almost 300 posts already, ongoing shitstorm
I miss those threads in their pre-shitposting state

Reminder: this non HoMM furry art >>6576739 is ok because it isn't laughing at HotA

>>6580106
Cry more.

These threads have become almost as bad as Heroes VII

>>6580136
>t. LGBT redditor that has a stroke anytime he sees HotA criticism

>>6580106
excuse me, but how is this homm art? Is it anywhere specifically referencing heroes of might and magic? Because I don't see it anywhere

>>6580150
Ask the Russian furries with their fingers on the report button

>>6580150
fugg didn't see the "non" part, my bad

>>6580156
Is there any actual proof that this don-ko guy every did some designs for HotA? The only few things I was able to find related to homm were some images resembling the original heavenly forge like pic related that he did for a "project" and an Asylum town sketch that looks nothing like the town from Heroes 4. But on his deviantart page there is nothing even remotely reminiscent of either Cove or Factory or any mentions on his pages that he was doing any of it for the Horn of the Abyss mod? Kinda sounds like hearsay to me and if it is, you are blatantly lying and drawing connections where none exist

>>6580102
Me too. But they will get bored eventually I hope.
>>6580141
Kek'd

>>6579541
Going through youtube comments of Heroes 4 tracks is a trip, people keep recognizing the music from other things. Apparently the Desert theme is also in the Naruto anime.

>>6580147
Actually never played HotA and think their Cove unit line is garbage. Cry more, faggot.

>>6580213
>Desert theme is also in the Naruto anime.
w-What?
>penktasis Arnas:Also in naruto shippuden in one of the episodes before the marriage with hinata
While i do remember something about that moon adventure shipuuden movie this is a news t me. Guess i should finnish that anime if for nothing else then for this and completion sake.

>>6580213
>sslaxx:This is from Heroes of Might and Magic 4! Paul Anthony Romero composed this, not Kunihiko Ryo or Tomohiko Kira. This is a remix of the game's underground music.
Kek

>>6579172
>that pic
top kek

>>6580224
>Actually never played HotA and think their Cove unit line is garbage. Cry more, faggot.
Ok Donko

>>6580213
>>6580232
I've got to check that and behold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMfY7l8E7qQ at 47:50
Sorry for /a/ posting but at least it's not furry or HotA posting

>>6580275
Nice of you to keep shilling your favorite furry artist while giving zero proof he is related to any hota mod; inb4 deleted

>>6580302
>pops an awkward boner to Donko and REEEEEEEE
Announcing a report again are we?

>>6580307
I never reported you and I am not into furries, I am just interested in why are you stubbornly lying and refusing to provide any proof for your claims. Because as it stands now, you are the perpetuun mobile that is by itself, alone, shitting up an otherwise great general thread

>>6580315
>the perpetuun mobile that is by itself
Learn English Donko

>>6580319
>deflects
keep lying to yourself closet homo

>>6580320
Ok Donko

Fuck

>>6580369
Forgot to add
>Slow, Haste, Bless, Fire Wall
>must win with zero deaths

>>6580374
You have slow. You already won

>>6580369
>that initiative order track
what mod is that

>>6580369
Do you have no damage spells? If you do, just slow them and kite while you kill them with spells.

>>6580390
new HoTA feature
honestly hate it, but you can turn it off

>>6580427
Some anon said it's a HDmod feature.

>>6580390
HD mod I believe. Great idea, flawed execution. Heroes 5 did it better.

>>6580390
>>6580427
It's HDmod feature, not hota
You dodo

Is there a feature in the HOMM3 HD Mod which explicitly shows the stack ranges for few, several, pack, etc?I always forget the exact counts when I take a break from playing and it is annoying. I see some people on youtube have this.

>>6580430
>>6580428
Honestly forgot which. Just remember updating one of the mods and turning the thing off after it plagued one of my games. It seemed like something hota would've added so I just went with that.

>>6580446
http://heroescommunity.com/viewthread.php3?TID=39386

>>6580209
Nah, they won't. It's a self-perpetuating circle of shitposting. Even if we ignore them and have discussion separate to it, they are just going to continue shitpost on their own.

>when pride month is about to start

>>6580369
>10-19 trolls
>1 enchanter
>"heh heh, I got this..."

>>6580870
>Artifacts that match the hero
Nice, I do this too whenever it's possible.

>>6580887
The ones I like aren't even very powerful, but damn if I ever get them all anyway.

>>6580429
>Great idea, flawed execution
What's flawed about it besides boomers crying about it?

>>6579646
because it litteraly is boring and unimaginative as fuck - if you can make a town like that without robbing NEUTRAL creatures of their NEUTRAL alignment while also not completely ripping off shit like having sphynx, scorpions and anubis - then i could support it

heroes 3 is heroes 3, you cant just take rogues and slap them into inferno as a secondairy level1 unit

druids are still in the town but now as leaders, guys in robes shooting energy balls out of thier hands fits castle and monks better

>SW will soon surpas them both
t. Orzie

>muh pol boogeymen
litteraly kill yourself if you unironicly belive fags, trannies and muslims should be tolerated to exist you twitter nigger

We have 8 dragons in heroes3 already, adding one more thats actualy difrent, armored/native dodos are cool and original, fuck off with your "too obscure" logic we shouldnt have conflux or factory, fuck off out of here with your simlicity shit before some asshole like you suggests a marvel town with superman batman spiderman wonderwoman and thanos

>>6579665
yeah right becuase Ivan being the 32nd guy who's made an egypt/desert town will totaly be the one to break through

>>6580086
unironic faggots and their enablers

>>6580369
>firewall at 11 power
just move your army north and fry thier assess also what map is that

>>6577225
is that a fucking bee?

>>6581928
It's a wasp, my lad.

>>6581983
but is it THE bee?

>>6581594
>bluedragonidle.gif
Anon...

WeW this is why default is the best map template and using any other ones is no-fun multiplayer faggotry

found them week two right outside of my starting zone as tower, regardless to say i did not bother with titans, it almost made up for the map being a circle of tunnels, portals and above ground passages and me having to chase the AI around for a month
either
there was no dungeon faction on the map either, do shenanigans like this only happen in the underground?

>>6581928

>>6582136
jikes..

>>6577240
Is that from Netflix' Witcher?

>>6582172
contrary to whatever you are thinking this isn't uncommon to have something like that on popular multiplayer templates

I like everything in the heroes of might and magic games from 1 to 5 except the gameplay.

>>6582650
really? does everyone get something like this or is it really just broken and unbalanced? because i took these bad boys without problem

>>6579358
Definitely the starter. Mm6 is a classic. 7 and 8 are comfy and have the same world and style of gameplay, 9 is a bit of a mess, doesn't feel like any of the others. 10/X is grid based and forced turn based aka no cheesing.

I love the resource scarcity in impossible difficulty but the AI just fucking tears me a second butthole.

>>6582806
Different anon, but I've been playing MM6 and can confirm it's actually a ton of fun

>>6583136
It's great. I replay it every year. The mod merge of 6/7/8 is also worth checking out.

>>6582806
I figured I'd start with 7 since I've played so much of HoMM 3 that it'd be amazing to actually be able to walk around antagarich but does 6 tie in with HoMM 2 or have any similar kind of appeal?

>>6582880
When some kind anon posted the files for chronicles in the last thread I was looking forward to some nice, chill campaigns that weren't too taxing. Was actually kinda disappointed that you can play them on impossible since now I'm compelled to do so. Sucks being a tryhard for a game that's all about comfiness but I know I'll win if I play on expert so now I gotta sweat and claw for every building in every scenario for 8 whole damn campaigns, if I bother with them.thanks again anyway kindanon

>>6578593
Been playing for years and I still never got a single one of these shits.
Would you say a big ol random map would be the most likely way of ending up with all the components?

>>6578593
Doubleposting but fuck me I surely had the components for the Rampart one at some time or another and probably just didn't know to equip them, Fuck me in the ass with an angelfeather arrow.

>>6583497
I don't think that these artifacts are real.

>6581845
>because it litteraly is boring and unimaginative as fuck
you can at least be honest enough and just say that you hate sandniggers as much as you hate faggots
>robbing NEUTRAL creatures of their NEUTRAL alignment
legitimate decisions made by the original game devs, that were done to better balance the power level, theme or aesthetic of some town are illegal because you know better? Arrogance befitting a prideful faggot your ego betrays you to be
>ripping off shit like having sphynx, scorpions and anubis
Kill yourself moron. Are centaurs ripping off? Beholders? Titans? Elves? Dwarves? Angels? Devils? Hydras? Wyverns? Dragons? Half or more of the fucking cast would go out of the window by your "it's ripping off" logic. Anubites were in the original MM games as well lorelet, but I wouldn't expect a braindead zoomer like you to have ever played them.
>druids are still in the town but now as leaders
reduced to a samey magic class instead of being a cool unit, well done
>guys in robes shooting energy balls out of thier hands fits castle and monks better
Oh.my.GOD. Did someone...did someone maybe...did someone rob the Druids...of their alignment...and switch them to...to another town...?!? Like it was done with Gargoyles? And Griffins? And Dragons? And Rocs? UNIMAGINABLE.
>/pol/ bullshit in retro vidya
yeah, no, hang yourself by a doorknob; nobody is bringing either fags, trannies or muslims into the conversation apart from you and hota butthurt brigade. Rainbow is not a pride parade and old man with an eastern aesthetic is not a mullah, only your twisted mind sees patterns and connections where none exist. Inspired by something != something
>a dragon that is actually different
no, it is just ugly, not different
>armored/native dodos are cool and original
You know what else is cool? Rhinoceros with power drills and crocodiles with flamethrowers. Doesn't mean they fit into heroes. Dodoshit doesn't fit either.

>>6583629

>too obscure
Conflux was the original creation by 3DO and Factory is a continuation and evolution of the Heavenly Forge idea, also originally developed by 3DO. How the fuck is that "too obscure"? It fits the lore and it fits the game. "Alice in the Wonderland town" is nowhere near any of those categories, it is inspired by a specific fantasy novel, not a mythological or cultural archetype and has no connections whatsoever to previous games or lore. Crapyard is the kind of town no different from other memey mod shit like Covenant, Asylum or Christmas town.
>basedboy rant
gorge on your Iliad burger, the dumbest Oasis iteration is a million times more inspired than your hollywood hyperproduced turdfest (and no, you don't get a (You)

>>6583481
The combo artifacts in that pic don't exist, so it's no wonder you haven't seen them.
I've played lots of HoMM and the only combo artifacts I've ever built are the Wizard's Well and Sharpshooter's Bow, so even the ones that exist are rare.

>>6583629
>>6583635
Can you stop replying and thus feeding? You're only contributing to shitting up these threads by doing so.

>>6583481
>>6583560
>>6583636
they are not real, fan made ideas for new combination artifacts/item sets

>>6583725
Okay, okay, I'll stop. I just can't help it sometimes, I would discuss heroes to death, even when it is retarded. But I understand, sorry for being a retarded retard enabler.

>>6583390
Yeah that's a good point, mm7 is probably my favourite just because it feels like walking around h3 in first person. Mm6 doesn't really have that same feeling with h2, the visuals are quite different.

>>6583291
Mod merge? You mean a mod that merges all three into one game?

>mfw prismatic light

I think I went a bit overboard with the lakes. What do you think?
That's the overworld done. Now it's just the subterranean areas that are left.

>>6578092
>NWC's HoMM5
Please tell me more about it.
Because I think NWC was closed after HoMM4 & MM9.

>>6578181
>>6579168
read the fucking filename

>>6584445
Id open up the interior a bit like this and put something in there to make it more interactive, but it looks nice regardless

>>6578396
>never realized that every base game faction was represented
equipments are named after the faction's creatures.

>>6579172

>>6580446
APOLOGIZE TO HOTA!

>>6584502
also, did you ever consider putting pockets in your map for people to fly/dimension door to?

>>6584610
Nah, I don't think that's worth it. It's rare for anyone to get either spell, and they're strong enough without any added benefits.
Besides, only two of the four players can build a mage guild lvl 5.

>>6584685
>me and remembering pics

>>6583629
nope, racism is for jews - i hate this egypt shit becasue its unoriginal and wants to mix a bunch of neutral creatures in one faction without logic because they are too lazy and unimaginative

>legitimate decisions made by the original game devs
nope, we are talking about h3 hota here, even they copied the halflings and changed them up instead of just straight up copypasting like you want to, im sure the anti-hota fag would try to hunt them down and invidiualy kill them if they decided to change an existing faction/creature
>Kill yourself moron. Are centaurs ripping off? Beholders? Titans? Elves? Dwarves? Angels? Devils? Hydras? Wyverns? Dragons?
those are all very generic so its okay and spread out among diffrent factions, not all together in some hellenistic town

>guy in a purple rope
>cool unit

>muh pol boogeymen
funny becasue that other guy was also talking about homophobic micro-agressions but yea pol is the bad guy

>Rhinoceros with power drills and crocodiles with flamethrowers.
they were probably left on the forge cuttingroom floor, i cant belive you actualy came up with good ideas only as satire tho

>>6583635
ok now you are just pulling my leg, shilling conflux and factory as legitimate because the brianlets at 3DO came up with their own "OC" but Courtyard is bad because like 10% is a loose reference to something else

>>6583725
>t. Orzie

>>6584445
a swamp having lakes? no way!

>>6584692
unironicly looks worse

>>6578593
>necromancing imps back
[demon stacking intensifies]

>>6584445
>I think I went a bit overboard with the lakes. What do you think?
Naeh it's fine.

>>6583629
>feeding the troll
anon

>>6585943
>anyone who doesent think we should have a rouge-nomad-mummy-imam-goldengolem-spynx-flyingpyramid faction is trolling

>>6584692
Looks good. Swamp is generally fun to build, there's a lot of environment variety

>>6585951
>anyone who shoves politics into /vr/ is trolling
Yes

>>6579646
>H3SW is using best out of the two and will soon surpass them both.
Hi, Orzie.
How's your SUCK WARS meme mod going?

>>6585957
stfu retard just go in the editor and spam urself a bunch of bandits mumies rogues and gold golems if you're such a faggot then pretend its a town and leave us alone with your oasis bitching

>>6584445
Nice

>>6585951
>rouge
endless retardation

quicksand moat
sandstorm siege defense (slows enemy speed by 1 when besieging the town, 2 for fliers, lowers enemy ranged attack by 2)
monolith (autocasts quicksand outside of walls at the start of a siege)
-upgrades to obelisk (as adventure map; lets you skip last one)
nomads > oasis (as adventure map)
marketplace > caravan (teaches basic logistics for 1000gp, requires oasis) > bazaar (+1 marketplace) > artifact merchants
mage guild level 5 max
blacksmith (ammo cart; conflux switched to first aid tent)
grail: gleaming gold-tipped smooth-sided white pyramid with two flame-topped pillars (additional land movement to all allied heroes and +1 speed to all units)

dervish - 1 2 1 2 - scouting/pathfinding, 2/3 attack/move skills, 1/3 magic (wisdom common)
-turban w/gem and feather, arabic looking guy with scimitar
sorcerer - 1 1 2 2 - sorcery/wisdom, 1/3 attack/move skills (path/logis common), 2/3 magic
-pharoah looking guy with twisting gold cobra staff
neither ever learns water magic or navigation
cast spells in black, have black horses

1 rogue/assassin
-spying, assassin gains 20% more damage if attacking from behind
2 nomad/outrider (requires oasis)
-sandwalking, dervish is an archer who can move half their speed and still shoot afterwards, no melee penalty
3 mummy/royal mummy
-undead, curse, vulnerable to fire, royal mummy misfortunes enemies that attack it in melee
4 sphinx/ur-sphinx
-flier, 2-hex eye laser attack, retaliates with claws
5 gold golem (requires mage guild 1)/diamond golem (mage guild 2)
6 priest/high priest (look like horus/anubis)
-can bless ally unit, shooter, no range/obstacle penalty
7 scorpion rider/scorpion king
-hits 3 hexes, poisons targeted hex, king attacks twice

has mostly lowish stats but good speed (mummy/golems are slow)

>>6585991
>>6586178
thanks for reminding me, I needed to fix a few things on it

quicksand moat
sandstorm siege defense (slows enemy speed by 1 when besieging the town, 2 for fliers, lowers enemy ranged attack by 2)
monolith (autocasts quicksand outside of walls at the start of a siege)
-upgrades to obelisk (as adventure map; lets you skip last one)
nomads > oasis (as adventure map)
marketplace > caravan (teaches basic logistics for 1000gp, requires oasis) > bazaar (+1 marketplace) > artifact merchants
mage guild level 5
blacksmith (ammo cart; conflux switched to first aid tent)
grail: gleaming gold-tipped smooth-sided white pyramid with two flame-topped pillars (additional land movement to all allied heroes and +1 speed to all units)

dervish - 1 2 1 2 - scouting/pathfinding, 2/3 attack/move skills, 1/3 magic (wisdom common)
-turban w/gem and feather, arabic looking guy with scimitar
sorcerer - 1 1 2 2 - sorcery/wisdom, 1/3 attack/move skills (path/logis common), 2/3 magic
-pharoah looking guy with twisting gold cobra staff
neither ever learns water magic or navigation
cast spells in black, have black horses

1 rogue/assassin
-spying, assassin gains 20% more damage if attacking from behind
2 nomad/outrider (requires oasis)
-sandwalking, outrider is an archer who can move half their speed and still shoot afterwards, no melee penalty
3 mummy/royal mummy
-undead, curse, vulnerable to fire, royal mummy misfortunes enemies that attack it in melee
4 sphinx/ur-sphinx
-flier, 2-hex eye laser attack, retaliates with claws
5 gold golem (requires mage guild 1)/diamond golem (mage guild 2)
6 priest/high priest (look like horus/anubis)
-can bless ally unit, shooter, no range/obstacle penalty
7 scorpion rider/scorpion king
-hits 3 hexes, poisons targeted hex, king attacks twice

has mostly lowish stats but good speed (mummy/golems are slow)

>>6585991
>>6586240
>>6586257

>>6586175
>>6586240
>>6586257
>>6586268

kys you're selfes

>>6586240
>stargate Jaffa
okay I laughed

>>6586257
>scorpion rider
The fuck is he riding? Call him a "warrior" or something.
>king
I think there is enough retardation already in the game with thousands of minotaur "kings" and naga "queens"?

>>6586395
why jews?

>>6586551
>stargate Jaffa
to be fair they're pretty cool

I like to imagine dark elf spears/halbs in MoM as jaffa type soldiers, they shoot magical bolts first before they engage in melee

>>6586802
stargate, now that I think about it, is the same kind of campy writing as M&M, so much so that you could merge the series fairly seemlessly. We already have aliens coming to enroth, portals to other worlds, ancients, etc. You could easily incorporate the Goa'uld and some other parts of stargate into the series without there being a clash (other than knowing they came from another IP). Write a campaign, make a town, and it could mesh pretty well with the rest of the game. Would be fun just to fuck around with for the hell of it.

>>6586613
>The fuck is he riding?
....a scorpion
>king
"the scorpion king" is that scorpion-centaur guys name; haven't you seen the movies?

>>6586613
all nagas are queens

>>6587616
what if the minotaur king and naga queen fucked to make an heir

>>6587545
>....a scorpion
And centaurs are riding horses. Fucking brilliant.
>is that scorpion-centaur guys name
Akkadian myths has Girtablilu, you know. No need to borrow from some Hollywood shit.

>>6587545
Or maybe you're implying that non-upgraded version is literally just a dude riding a giant scorpion? That would be fucking ridiculous, cmon.

>>6583727
>>6578593
There were actually unused combo artifacts in original code, called Diplomat's Suit (worn as a cloak), Ironfist of the Ogre (worn in the right hand), Mired in Neutrality (worn on the torso).

>>6587680
wow, an ounce of common sense afterall
yes, that's what a "scorpion rider" implies
its not ridiculous, but it does seem out of place for a t7 creature

>>6587790
>its not ridiculous
Are you serious? It makes as much sense as a horse rider upgrading into a centaur.

>>6587801
it was a curse that made him the scorpion king
so the creature dwelling should be some kind of temple that blends scorpion riders with their scorpions

>>6587810
No, seriously, fuck this. And fuck that shitty movie.

>>6587834
sorry, I should have put a [TRIGGER WARNING] on my posts

Questing Beast could be a cool neutral in heroes; considering how it is usually an undefined mix of varied creatures, it could have several alternate variants, each with it's own set of abilities.

>>6586720
because of the dervishfag complaining about pol and homophobia, therefore he's a kike

>>6586395
okay mr. white christian man, how do you feel about inferno? necropolis? stronghold?

choose best birb

>>6588190
why he turn blue

>>6588050

>>6588269
>Disagree with me and you are probably a God-hater hypocrite or a pagan!
>muh chick tracts
Fuck that BS. You don't know this but Christianity is the mother of Bolshevism. In fact, it is the Bolshevism of antiquity, and overall like Marxist seminars at scores of public and some private universities, churches are fucking echo chambers

>>6588315
>the kingdom of God is just like the soviet union
>churches are echo-chambers

litteraly and unironicly commit suicide you red faggot, grab your lenin portrait and go do 10 laps around town with your grandparents

>>6588236
Because in H6 they associated Phoenix with prime magic and made it the strongest neutral in the game, any damage done by it is prime magic damage which means it cannot be healed back. And it regenerates.

I know this isn't retro, but is HOMM6 worth playing?