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>The Sega "64X" almost happened. It would've been a Saturn upgrade cartridge/card for either the cartridge slot or the port at the back. The upgrade was supposed to contain a Lockheed-Martin Real3D GPU and possibly a PowerPC CPU, giving the Saturn better-than-MODEL 2-arcade capabilities, even a decent fraction of Model-3, perhaps as much as 50%. This upgrade would've been released in either 1996 or 1997. Its main competitor in terms of 3D performance would've been the unreleased 3DO M2 console and the 3DFX Voodoo1 cards for PC, but the upgraded Saturn would've surpassed both.

>BTW, it was Martin Marietta/Lockheed Martin that developed the graphics techology for SEGA's Model 2 and Model 3 arcade boards The Real3D chip that would've gone into the Saturn upgrade, either Real3D/100 or i740, was the little brother of the Real3D/Pro-1000s use in the MODEL 3 board, and more powerful than the older, pre-REAL3D Martin Marietta chipset in MODEL 2.

>The Saturn upgrade could've been followed up by an even more powerful, standalone next-gen console sometime between 1998 and 2000, based on a newer generation Lockheed Martin Real3D GPU, with greater performance than the MODEL 3 Step 2 board (Sega's best arcade hardware at the time). This console would've been in place of the hardware that became Dreamcast. If coupled with DVD and broadband, I have no doubt it would've surpassed PS2, at least in terms of hardware, and gained a similar level of developer support. Microsoft would not have had to go out on its own with the Xbox, they'd have just allied themselves even more closely with SEGA, to fight Sony.

>> No.6570621

interesting I guess, but it was a retarded idea.

>> No.6570642

I just want a good port of House of the Dead

>> No.6570657
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>>6570607

>> No.6570672

>>6570607
Upgrading a dead console wouldn't have done them any good.

>> No.6570678

Jesus Christ this stuff never ends! I've never heard of this. Its like an old tv show that keeps coming out with new episodes

>> No.6570683

>>6570607
April fools day was 3 months ago anon.

>> No.6570686

>>6570678
There are theories about legit time travelers fucking around, wouldn't be surprised if this was one of their pranks.

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>>6570686
what kind of theories?

>> No.6570746

>>6570607
>>cant even open the cd lid while its installed

I call bullshit

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>>6570607
> be you
> a regular /vr/ fucking moron suffering from dunning kruger syndrome
> STEALS AN 11YO FORUM POST TO CREATE A 4CHAN THREAD
you are one the blackest and lowest iq gorillas in ALL OF AFRICAN and quite possibly the entire universe.
https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?135014-a-SEGA-quot-64X-quot-upgrade-for-Saturn-that-never-happened-and-some-quot-what-ifs-quot

this fucking board gets more embarrassing by the day.

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>>6570607
> be you
> a regular /vr/ fucking moron suffering from dunning kruger syndrome
> STEALS AN 11YO FORUM POST TO CREATE A 4CHAN THREAD
you are one the blackest and lowest iq gorillas in ALL OF AFRICA and quite possibly the entire universe.
https://forum.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?135014-a-SEGA-quot-64X-quot-upgrade-for-Saturn-that-never-happened-and-some-quot-what-ifs-quot

this fucking board gets more embarrassing by the day.

>> No.6570971

>>6570960
>stealing
Hey buddy. You ses that little bracket starting the line that makes text green?
Thats a quotation mark. Hes quoting the post. Nobody is impressed by your amateur googlefu.

>> No.6573409

>>6570607
doubt

>> No.6573601

Right after the N64, imagine trying to get your parents to buy you one of these. And if the Real3d does the graphics then you don't even need the saturn. They should have brough over more japanese games for the saturn but sega only wanted to target people who wanted to play nfl and baseball games.

>> No.6573614

>>6573601
>sega only wanted to target people who wanted to play nfl and baseball games
"Dude, but what if an actual American company came in and just fucking took all those games from under us???"

Sega systems have an absolutely insane Japanese 2D "anime" line up of games and it infuriates me that they never made it state side. They could have cornered the anime game market western side.

I like sega and all, but they deserved to lose the consoles wars 100%

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>>6573614
>1990s
>could have cornered the anime game market western side.

>> No.6574358

>>6570607
>32X: 2
They made the right call scrapping it.

>> No.6574402

>>6570960
Kys
Either if he stole it or whatever is an interesting story on how fucking retard SEGA is.

>> No.6574407

>>6573642
Maybe he meant JRPGs, one of the reasons the PS became no1 was because of the JRPGs it had.

>> No.6574408

>>6574407
Saturn had a ton of jrpgs just they never came here

>> No.6574434

>>6574408
Exactly what i think what that anon meant.
Fucking Shining Force III Part 2 and 3 never came over here.

>> No.6574437

>>6574408
DID YOU EVER READ BEFORE POSTING!
that's exactly what >>6574407
it's refering my damn good!

>> No.6574717

>>6574407
Literally only because of FF7 and Sony's aggressive, exorbitant marketing campaign. All the other jarpigs the PSX got sold like shit.

>> No.6574804

>>6570960
imagine being so lonely you even remember an 11 year old forum post

>> No.6575159

>>6570960
i'm sorry someone stole your 11 year old fourm post, faggot

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6575229

Stuff like this convinces me Sega was doomed to failure. It seems like the Sega Genesis was a fluke or lightning in a bottle. Sega had deep understanding of the arcade scene, but not the home video game console market.

>> No.6575286

>>6575229
Sega consoles were great and innovative as hell, though, especially the Dreamcast.

>> No.6575328

>>6575286

While true to some extent, it seems for every good choices they made, 5 other bad ones followed. The Japanese leadership was so disconnected from reality at times

>> No.6575408

>>6575328
Who cares

>> No.6575447

>>6570687
When I was a kid my parents couldn't afford to get me one for Christmas, and miraculously my mother won one from Taco Bell. They had a promotion running called "score 64(X) and win". My mom was really depressed at how me and my brother only asked for the one shared gift, and we couldn't afford it, she had a dream that night in which she saw my dead grandfather on the beach and he told her everything was gonna be okay. The next day she stopped at taco bell drive through for a soda after work (something she'd never done before), and peeled off the label on the cup and found out that we won. On Christmas day after me and my brother opened all our gifts, we tried to not let the dissapointment on our faces show because we knew the situation, and while we hadn't gotten what we hoped for, we didn't want it to show. My parents then had us open this one last gift. Me and my bro unwrapped a plastic taco bell cup, (the Sega 64X hadn't arrived in the mail yet) and were confused until they said "read it", we did, and we lost our minds with happiness. You always see those contests, and you think nobody ever wins, but they do. Till this day, I still can't believe it happened, and made it the most memorable Christmas of my life. God is good.

>> No.6575456

>>6570746
Prototypes often don't take into account ergonomics or function, just what the project requirements are. They deal with those things once they decide if it's something that's viable for release.

>> No.6576389

>>6570607
How would this even save them money? if it's literally just a cpu/gpu add on, is it using the memory from the saturn itself? because that's like, what, 3mb? that's not nearly enough for its spec, so then is it another memory bank? at that point, you're just booting a separate system and borrowing the psu and i/o out, how would that be cheaper than just releasing a new system?