/vr/ - Retro Games

I'm sorry, but Nocturne in the Moonlight is the superior version of the game.

i'm sorry, but that kind of wandering around has never appealed to me. id rather play classicvania

>>6552035
I'm sorry, but Symphony of the Night is a worse Tansakuvania than Vampire Killer for MSX2.

>>6552035
Should I play this on Saturn or is it yet another example of the PS1 version being better, despite the Saturd being shilled as the best console for 2D games?

>>6552035
Gotta say... this game really left me feeling rather booty blasted...

>>6552131
It has Maria as a playable character, so that alone is worth a play if you love SotN

The sad thing is SOTN has the best music & visuals of any Metroid-style Castlevania but the worst combat. And the level design isn't great either.

I'm sorry, but SOTN is not a good Castlevania game, and it's a very average Metroid-like.

>>6552131
It's got a bunch of weird QoL shit going on on top of the big things like the new areas/items/Maria and if you don't have a toaster Beetle Saturn runs it better than native hardware. Richter's modified sprite looks kind of shit though

Aria and the DS games are superior

>>6552035
IN THIS ACK-SHUN GAME

>>6552165
I guess I'll just stick to the Playstation version. It's another reminder of how bad the Saturn is I guess.

>>6552317
Smart decision. Forget the Sega Shiturn even exists.

>>6552035
Fucking based, /vr/ literally seethes over this game

>>6552035
Except for all the padding, right?

>>6552319
Fuck you

>>6552319
I wish I could.

>>6552319
Never

>>6552319

>>6552317
>how bad the Saturn is
Keep repeating the mantra, maybe one day it'll become true.
By the way, if the mild extra slowdown (because the original already has slowdowns anyway) bothers you so much on Saturn, at least play the PSP version. The original PS version is lacking stuff, even more in the western version where they actually removed stuff from the original japanese.

I mean, it's pretty fun, good soundtrack and really nice to look at on a good crt but depth-wise it's completely busted and it's even easier than a final fantasy game so idk if really enters the "greatest ever" discussion

>>6552035
god i love watching the dumb classicvania sub 80 IQ fags totally sperg out over a change of style. imagine your series being totally dog shit besides like 1 game and then you seethe that they try something new and blow the classic formula out of the water. keep crying fags.

>>6552764
>play the PSP version
No thanks, I'm autism-free.

shame about that copy paste level design

>>6552918
Then I suggest not playing SOTN at all, play the classicvanias like autism-free people do.

SotN is definitely a state of art in terms of visual presentation, OST and overall atmosphere but the gameplay is quite basic and lacks polishing of the other game elements. I don't think SotN is the greatest game ever made (just like every game in existence desu) but it's somewhere in my personal top 10 for sure.

Good that you apologized beforehand for that shitty opinion.

>>6552059
I'm sorry, but Nocturne of the Moonshine is clearly the definitive edition.

>>6552764
>The original PS version is lacking stuff, even more in the western version where they actually removed stuff from the original japanese.
Then why not play the amazingly implemented, completely accurate English translation of the Japanese PS1 version?

>>6552870
>a jarpigvania fan has the audacity to claim anybody else is low IQ
Top kek. Stay asspained with the fact that you just suck shit at the Classicvanias, tranny, and don't forget to dilate your fake vagina gash.

>besides like 1 game
Let me guess, the one they made for retarded babies on Super Nintendo?

>>6554183
The only classicvania for retarded babies is Rondo, which is the one sotnyggers like, or pretend to like.
Also go back to /vg/, zoomer.

>>6554506
your "rondo is the easiest cv" meme isn't gonna catch on, everyone already knows the truth that that honour goes to 4.

>>6554513
I wasn't talking about difficulty, honestly any classicvania is harder than SOTN, even Rondo or IV, but Rondo has the loli with the happy animals and cake.
Anyway, back to /vg/, zoomer, nobody cares about your LARPing on supposedly being an arcade (actually MAME with save states lol) player, you're just a fetus.

>>6554521
why so seething, nintendildo?

SotN confirmed for action-packed arcade-style non-jarpig

>>6554524
>nintendildo
speaking of memes that didn't catch on...
Anyway, pretty funny to see you still seething about Castlevania IV even after all these years. Reminder that IV was voted as the most favorite castlevania in the Castlevania Dungeon forums, lol. Seethe harder though, australia, your autism is always funny, except when you get out of meds and start spamming the board with sega system autism.

>>6554529
>jarpig
Stop using zoomer buzzwords
Also, nobody ever claimed SOTN was turn-based.

>>6554521
>I wasn't talking about difficulty, honestly any classicvania is harder than SOTN, even Rondo or IV,
SotN isn't a real Castlevania and shouldn't be compared with the rest of the retro entries.

>but Rondo has the loli with the happy animals and cake.
The fact that you even have to resort to the OP joke character instead of manning up proves it isn't as easy as you're trying to make us believe. I bet you haven't even cleared RoB as Richter. It's alright though, Super Castlevania Bore is always there for shitplayers such as yourself.

>>6554560
Nah, I've beaten Rondo multiple times with Richter without losing a single life. I still like the game, though.
Anyway, keep seething about IV, you will never change people's opinions on it. Not even egoraptor could (although he was close, too bad later on he demonstrated he never could beat the game lol)

>>6554531
sotn is also extremely popular, even moreso than 4, that doesn't mean either is good however.

>>6554570
I mean, if we're going by shitposters like australia-kun, the only good CV game is Amigavania, so whatever.
I'm just laughing at the fact he's been wanting to force people into disliking IV for years now, and it's not happening.
I also think that SOTN shouldn't be considered a real Castlevania, SOTN and other tansakuvanias should have been called a different name really.

>>6554563
>keep seething about IV
Keep sucking SCB's dick and going along with the crowd like a sheep instead of thinking critically for yourself, mate.

>(although he was close, too bad later on he demonstrated he never could beat the game lol)
I don't blame him for dropping it tbf, the game is so long and boring that you have to really push yourself to see the ending. Might as well go play a CV with actually decent pacing, like 68k and The New Generation.

>this thread:

jarpig metroidvania classic vania easy easy easy hard hard baby game gay fuck off rondo easy 4 hard sotn easy easy classicvania hard

>>6552764
Sony wins again

The great debate.

>>6554576
>I also think that SOTN shouldn't be considered a real Castlevania, SOTN and other tansakuvanias should have been called a different name really.

Even the older non-linear CV's felt more like CV than SotN. SotN is basically gothic-style metroid with jrpg progression bullshit on top, shouldn't even be using the castlevania name really.

>>6554606
Whatever you stay, stralia. Just stop playing TNG, it's censored.

It’s a phenomenal game but definitely no where near the best game. I absolutely adore SOTN but it definitely has a lot of weaknesses. That being said it has great replayability every year or so

Just ban castlevania threads.

>>6554606
>thinking critically
Are you implying you're capable of critical thinking, schizo? lmao.
Also, egoraptor dropped the game because he got filtered by stage 8, not because he got bored. He even said IV is a great game, he never outright said it was a bad game, his sequelitis video was just him trying to sound smart, but it backfired when a lot of the things he said about the game lacking were actually there, he just never got to see them because it's on the later levels.

>>6552131
Just finished the saturn version few days ago (played the ps1 version many times before). Loading times are all over the place : going in and out of the menus and after going through the "loading rooms" that made the ps1 version so smooth. Also you cant' directly access the map during gameplay which is annoying and means even more loading times. Some visual effect are kinda meh on saturn, especially the mist transformation. The extra levels are very short and not enjoyable at all with out of place aesthtics and so-so remixes that dont fit the atmosphere of the game.

Might replay it in few months to clear it with Maria though.

>>6554649
The main problem is Australia-kun, not the threads themselves.
If Australia-kub was to be actually range-IP banned forever, the quality on /vr/ would raise significantly, not just in Castlevania threads but in general.

>>6554183
literally dont give a fuck about jrpgs but keep seething faggot. just the mention of sotn makes you bitch and moan. you should consider a shotgun to the roof of your mouth, clear yourself off this planet.

>>6554690
>literally dont give a fuck about jrpgs but keep seething faggot.
I find that hard to believe coming from a SotNigger.

>just the mention of sotn makes you bitch and moan. you should consider a shotgun to the roof of your mouth, clear yourself off this planet.
Who was the Classic Chad that hurt your butt, anon?

>>6552035
little fun activities like going to confession is fun but what the fuck were they thinking in making you do the whole castle upside down

>>6552918
>dissing the Dracula X crhonicles

>>6552035
not the greatest game, but it's still the best Metroid-style Castlevania game

>>6554731
u fucking retard i literally can't stand jrpgs. sotn isnt even close to an rpg a game with rpg elements doesnt instantly make it a jrpg you fucking braindead nigger monkey. you fags complain about this game like its your day job.

Why do people hate on this port of a, what third remake maybe? of castlevania one? Seems okay to me I really like the arranged mode.

>>6555778
Some anon has been posting about it in recent times, seems like the PS1 port (even of the original mode) has many issues not present on the original Sharp version. Stuff like enemy programming is different.

>>6552142
>worst combat and bad level design
Not while Circle of the Moon exists.

Symphony of the Night is the only Castlevania game I've ever played.

I hated it.

>>6556134
It’s been a while since I’ve seen taste as shitty as this.

I'm sorry but the first bosses, the lizard guy and the birdo, are just too hard

>>6555772
what is there to like about sotn? bouncing around empty levels with piss easy monsters that die in a couple hits? lanes and lanes of empty corridors? horrible enemy placement like the shit that turns you to stone but there's no enemies around to even hurt you??
the ability to farm loot to make the game even easier than it is?
a gimmick ending that reverses the castle?
backtracking a clunky map for hours?
give me a break
just admit it's only selling point is the aesthetics

>time consuming jrpg elements in an action platformer

>>6552785
>I mean
Can you not speak like a retard?

>>6556207
>time consuming
>You literally do not have to grind for levels or rare item drops to beat the game
>There are no random battles, combat all exists in real time
>Occasionally come across better gear and have to equip it
What the hell are you even talking about?

>>6556256
backtracking is a time consuming element
long empty corridors are time consuming
flipping through menus is time consuming
testing item combinations is time consuming
All this stuff detracts from the gameplay and slows it down.

I'm not talking about a speedrunner who can beat the game with his eyes closed, but new players getting into it. Compare it to something like Bloodlines or Ninja Gaiden nes games, you just pop in and play.

>>6556280
>backtracking is a time consuming element
Welp, all Metroid games confirmed for shit.
>flipping through menus is time consuming
Yes it has RPG elements so menu based gameplay is a given
>testing item combinations is time consuming
Tons of people find that really fun. Crafting is a big part of why Minecraft is the best selling game of all time.
>All this stuff detracts from the gameplay and slows it down.
All this stuff is a part of the gameplay, the corridors is the only legit point you have.
>Compare it to something like Bloodlines or Ninja Gaiden nes games, you just pop in and play.
You didn't consider even for one second that it just isn't that type of game. I don't shit on Master of Orion 2 because it isn't Super Mario 64, you know why? Because that would be fucking stupid.

>>6552168
Aria was definitely better

Sotn is good just kidna felt average

>>6556313
>I don't shit on Master of Orion 2 because it isn't Super Mario 64, you know why? Because that would be fucking stupid.
I'm not complaining that my pizza isn't a sandwich, I'm complaining that my pizza has specs of dogshit in it.

>>6556332
Then while complaining about specs of shit on your pizza don’t compare it to a sandwich you fucking fool.

>>6556336
Nah, I'll eat good pizzas and play good games, without all the negatives of Metsoývanias.

>>6556354
Classicvanias are B-tier action platformers that were a bargain bin’s best friend in their heyday. Metroidvanias will always be superior. Cope, tranny.

>>6556358
seethin

>>6556359
Not even a light simmer.

>>6556354
>Metsoývanias.
>>6556332
>I'm complaining that my pizza has specs of dogshit in it.
lmao

>Curse of the Moon was met with much more praise on average than Ritual of the Shite, has far more people playing the game currently, and will even be getting a sequel next month

How will Metroidvaniatrannies ever recover?

>>6556332
>Food analogies
OH NONONONONONONONONO

WHAT IS A MAN?

>>6556198
actually yes, that is the fucking selling point you goddamned retard. maybe i dont want to play constant difficult shit because im not a no life nigger who just plays video games all day. i like the aesthetics and presentation. if you want difficulty play the fucking richter mode which was designed specifically for angry neckbeard faggots like you. i have hobbies and i can see you dont, and that is why i prefer a game that isnt a constant fight to have fun.

>>6552035
It's overrated. But still shits on super metroid

>>6557167
Curse of the moon is the only good Classicvania game.

>>6552035
It's fun for the exploratory elements, I like moving through a space like Dracula's Castle with that fantastic music. The action is quite poor and unbalanced, it's really just set-dressing for the feel of moving through that castle as a powerful half-vampire. I think we should take a step back and recognize that we don't like a game like Symphony of the Night for the mechanics and we have more in common with fans of "walking simulators" than is initially obvious. We like Symphony of the Night because we like to explore the beautiful environments and listen to Michiru Yamane's music, to feel like we're defeating terrible demons even though there's really nothing to it, to feel like we're uncovering secrets even though they're in your face and braindead simple to reveal. That illusion is effective, but I don't think that makes it the greatest game ever made.

>>6558230

>>6558230
>long-winded incoherent seething

>>6558459
There's barely any cutscenes in SOTN and if you're walking, that means you're a pleb. Learn to backdash

>>6552035
It's shit.

>>6552035
why are you sorry

>>6558501
>"muh aesthetic"
>backwards spasms the whole game

Abomination.

>>6558528
>Not appreciating the aesthetic while back dashing

>>6558528
Did the developers really intend people to backdash like idiots the whole game? Gross

>>6558536
Igarashi ruined Classicvania and turned it into a steaming pile of nu-shit

>>6552764
No, but having uneven pixels due to the wider resolution of the Saturn is a killjoy and no, CRTs do not blend them.

Also the new areas were fucking pointless and halfbaked.

But i found this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luZrTfr3ZjY

>>6553810
Because PSP still has more content.
>>6554623
Poor Sony didn't get any good classicvania as exclusive! And the Chronicles port was faulty.
>>6558559
Your comment on the new areas is sour grapes as fuck.
As for the "uneven pixels", literally the only coping PSboys have.

>>6552035
D A R K M E T A M O R P H O S I S ! ! !

>>6558459
i literally hate games like this i have ZERO clue what you are on about. some of my favorite games have very little story or cutscenes. you are a dense faggot type 0 fun person irl and should probably paint your walls with your brains because im sure your "friends" would appreciate it. fucking die

SOTN is too easy, its poor balance really hurts it in my opinion. None of the bosses are memorable because you just fuck them up in two seconds

>>6558987
I'm guessing this outrage is a way depression manifests in some, depression induced by playing bad games and having bad taste

>>6558501
speedrunning was a mistake
but not as big a mistake as SOTN

Castlevania was never good.

>>6552131
The best thing about the Saturn version is easily the extra boss battle against Maria (apparently not the same one planned for the PlayStation version but she's not the pushover she becomes in the PSP/PS4 version). It even comes with a new, fitting music track called Guardian. Besides that, however, the added content is completely forgettable and the diminished quality and floatiness and slowdown negate any appeal the Saturn version had, so the PlayStation original is still superior overall. I recommend the Akumajou Dracula X: Gekka no Yasoukyoku retranslation by Gemini.

Thanks for beta-testing, Sonycucks, but I'll be enjoying my superior version of SotN only for the Sega Saturn.

>>6559805
Alright, who poured the bucket tool on Richter?

>>6559009
outrage is bitching every time a thread appears on the 4channel board retro games. best possible thing to happen for this board is to ban gay castlevania threads.

Isn't luck mode harder. You could always set your own stats with codes to make the game harder. The difficulty never bothered me though I like the larping as an uber powered vampire.

>>6559861
Based fuck castlekiddies.
Ninja Gaiden was the superior action game.

>People seething so hard ITT they want to ban Castlevania threads
OP probably wanted this to happen but still, the fact that SOTN makes /vr/ seethe this much is fucking incredible

>>6559880
>Ninja Gaiden
Shit compared to Ghosts n goblins

>>6559805
Wow that sprite is ROM hack-tier. Looks nothing like his gorgeous sprite during cutscenes.

>>6559683
Personally, I hate the Maria fight. The cut PlayStation fight where she's possessed sounds interesting, but having her fight normally in the Saturn/DXC/Requiem version is weak. She doesn't really have a reason to try to kill Alucard since she knows he's her only ally in the castle. Yeah, the room you encounter her in looks like a boss room, which would make you go "huh"? - but that's the point since it's meant to be a strong hint at the final destination of the reverse castle. It just doesn't make a lot of sense from a story perspective.

>>6552035
But it's not even as good as Rondo of Blood, or Bloodlines.

>>6559683
>>6560136
If I'm reading this right, the Holy Glasses fight was planned for Playstation too. They salvaged the voice clips from the Playstation version.

>>6560116
It's vaguely better in motion, but just barely. Maria's isn't bad, though. They just got lazy since he was a hidden character

>>6555760
Well yeah it's kind of shit. OG Rondo of Blood takes a steaming dump on the PSP version, esspecially with its input lag and lower framerate