/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6540015
This video only confirms that raytracing is just a meme to sell "modern" cards. More news at 11.

>>6540015
Watched a few seconds of it and in my opinion it looks like dogshit. Basically just gives the whole image an overexposed look, with things randomly changing colors. The graphics are just too simple for the effect to add anything of value.

>>6540015
>it looks the same but worse
>all that overreacting
Retards actually don't understand you can't just slap a shader on top of some models and call it day. Anyway, that's just global illumination.

It looks nice minus the overexposure, but the raytracing isn't adding anything that existing shaders can't do.

Why even give a fuck about raytracing? so overhyped.

>>6540061
>>6540072
Because its a Path Traced Global Illumination shader. The video maker is retarded.

nothing could make that game good

>>6540061
Raytracing has potential but it's still way too early for anything that doesn't feel like a tacked on gimmick to come out of it.

>>6541950
Things often start as gimmicks until they catch on and evolve. Full raytracing is undoubtedly the future of gaming, a distant future, but still. RTX is just a proprietary gimmick that'll die just like PhysX.

>>6540061
And consoles, too. But we all know that developers will just rely on the sheer brunt of the machines, power upgrades are there just to encourage lazy programmers to brute force their sloppily written code.

>>6540015
>you cna see the reflection of the grass on the walls
>dirt walls
>reflecting grass
This is beyond retarded

>>6540072
some idiot injected code or whatever to just bounce every surface's reflection off each other additively without thinking about the fact that that makes an unbounded amount of light

>>6540015
1. There is no definition how the individual materials should behave, just the default diffuse maps of the game. So naturally it looks plain wrong.
2. Just because you could doesn't mean you should.

>>6540015
>water without reflections or refractions
>shiny grass and reflective carpets
Why are people doing this?

>>6542245
Because it looks SO GOOD.

>>6540015
>raytracing
>it's barely visible
>doesn't improve anything
>obviously tanking the FPS
>shadows are still big black circles drawn on the ground
What's the fucking point?
And that guy overreacts so much it's annoying
>look how INCREDIBLE this overworld looks!
No.

Looks like shit.

All I'm seeing are American virgins desperately trying to justify their expensive gaymer rig purchase while Japanese chads make sexy waifu gambling simulator for iphones.

>>6540015
Looks like garbage. Buy a CRT

Apparently there's a mod coming out that tries to make it look like the renders
Look at that SOUL

>>6540015
Meh

>>6544067
awful

>>6540015
I'm honestly really disappointed. I thought this was going to be a leak of what they used to create these promotional pictures. Or at the very least somewhat resemble pic related.

>>6544067
Haha disgusting

>>6544067
Spot on.

>>6540015
What's all the hubbub? It just looks like a Gamecube port.

>>6540015
that looks fucking horrible, no thanks.

>>6544067
Just the models, or will they change the lighting to make it resemble the renders as well?

>>6544210
We're probably never going to see the assets of the promo pics ever being released or shown off. Even if Nintendo or some studio still had the assets (there's a good chance they don't), they barely have any incentives to show off or release the assets and there's a good chance the assets themselves can't be used on modern PCs (the assets could've used NURBS for heaven's sakes).

As for why the mod looks so bad, it's just slapping a GI shader onto the game and nothing else. It seems like the shaders are using the normal shaders instead of custom RT hardware (tanking performance in the process) and the shader wasn't complemented with any kind of Physically Based Rendering (PBR), making everything too shiny. Pic related is what you get when you implement RT in a 90s 3D game properly.

The tile floor reflections look amazing. The rest just looks like stupid shit. Whoever did this just did new tech things without considering how to use the tool. Like a kid who does his first mlg killstreak compilation.

Anybody notice that these videos are autistic with the rotating camera? Now I think it SHOULD be limited in rotation and distance because these guys literally abuse the analog camera to the point that it's game breaking. I personally think fixed camera is better for 3D games with the occasional adjustment being necessary but some people literally use the camera control more than the regular character movement.

>>6540015
That guy has shit taste in aesthetics

>>6540015
>its good because someone was autistic enough to do it for free
Is this how modding communities are like?

>>6540015
>give PC gamers unlimited resources and all the best tools in the world
>all they can do is produce this: >>6542429
>give console modders negative resources, modification only possible through hacking games usually by poking hex addresses
>get superb hacks which can turn shit games into great ones
Limitations and restrictions really does breed creativity.

>>6546521
>No! You're controlling the camera wrong!

>>6540015
That looks like complete shit

>>6546725
but they are

>>6546725
it's not like I'm criticizing something that is within the possibility of normal play intended by the creators. I'm saying their bastard version is a bastard

you can enable Raytracing on an original hardware N64 too. Just find your TV's Brightness and Contrast settings and boost that shit to the max. see, now it looks just like that faggot ecelebs picture

>>6544210
>>6546424
That's just a render. And no PBR, just basic stuff like blinn-phong.

>>6546723
Nice nitpick.

>>6540015
>"it is just another world entirely"
>barely perceptible difference during regular gameplay
>arguably worse by having it on.

>>6544067
Found a video of the mod you're talking about or at least a similar one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06aUPzk3l-c

>>6540015
>look how incredible this overworld looks.

>>6542429
i used to play with enhancements and texture packs and all that when i was a teen too, but after a while i found that they're just interesting because they're different, not because they're better, and the effect wears off and reveals itself to be worse than the original graphics

>>6548189
yeah but at least with other enhancements there's a point, like a higher resolution could have an appeal. This is literally just a different shader they are somehow trying to pass off as a wild difference.

>>6546972
>You know what this scene needs?
>A complete, 100% tonal shift
Pc gamers missing the point again.

>>6548250
There's much more than that going on and you know it. Anyway, it's just a shitty screenshot I grabbed from google, modded Skyrim in particular tends to be much more impressive.

>>6540015
>c'mon anons, this is (((current year))) Mario 64

kek that youtuber is getting fcked both on youtube and here

and for good reason it looks like crap

>>6548000
Now this is something I can get behind. The models and texture quality clash horribly with the dated animations, but this is how I'd imagine those renders would look like if they were animated. Just give it time, also trips.

>>6540015
This is a retrogames board. Why would you mention raytracing here? Fucking millennials can't read. Fuck you.

>>6550193
*sips*

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