/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[6-20]Cold as Hell: less retarded & ammo zapping edition
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=69044&sid=1482ee55c76edd77581e477de47e3677

[6-16] Anon shares a map, '2h Map.wad'
http://www.mediafire.com/file/v5f5u77kc6rv8ci/2h_Map.wad/file

[6-14] Anon shares a map, 'rooms.wad'
http://www.mediafire.com/file/oq3ghzni4m91bdt

[6-14] Xdoom engine, fixes LinuxXDoom features
https://github.com/so-sleepy/Xdoom

[6-10] GZDoom 4.4.1 has been released
https://github.com/coelckers/gzdoom/releases/tag/g4.4.1

[6-10] Satanic Infestation v0.0.5 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/113234-satanic-infestation-open-iwad-project-current-version-v005-mapping-contest-being-held/?page=14&tab=comments#comment-2133632

[6-10] Q2 retexture project updated
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-retexture-project/news/quake-2-retexture-and-relight-progress-1

[6-10] cannonball posts release candidate for Return to Hadron Episode 3
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114906-return-to-hadron-episode-3-rc1/?tab=comments#comment-2139913

[6-10] Nicolas Monti releases Alpha Centauri, a new Doom 2 episode using Doom stock textures plus alpha textures
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/a-c/centauri

[6-10] Abandon, a Boom-compatible wad composed of large slaughter maps, has entered beta
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/108251-abandon-beta-is-here/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzt0ylYlEhY

[6-5] Useful Wolf3D FAQ created
https://faq.wolf3d.net/

[6-5] Ion Fury dev is starting a map tutorial for Mapster32. Focused on IF, but should help with other games as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1day0eLWng&feature=youtu.be [Embed]

[6-1] Akeldama, 32-map megawad collaboration.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/megawads/akeldama

[6-1] Spaceballs, the .wad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114797-dbp24-spaceballs-the-sequel-the-quest-for-more-dbp-maps/

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AN AMBUSH!

Looks like we're in for one of those slow summers again.

What wads are you playing? I'm juggling Czechbox and a second run through BTSX E1.

>>6538182
I'm just getting myself back into the groove again, so currently just original Doom. The episodic division is a good excuse to play for a while, then make a bunch of changes to my mod as I play it.

Anyone of you listening to any metal or stuff while mapping or modding?

name a few more horror themed retro fps

>>6538194
I prefer italo disco.

>>6538203
>including SHOTGUN
Acceptable.

brutal doom is so hype

>>6538194
i'm listening to horrorcore

>>6538194
I listen to 80s and 90s corporate/stock/library music from my huge collection while modeling.

>>6538212
Spotted the zoom zoom

>>6538194
Yeah, Slayer mostly, especially South of Heaven and bootlegs from that era. In general thrash goes well with Doom.

>>6538215
Spooky.

>>6538203
What shotgun does it come with?

>>6538226
I listen to a lot of that stuff myself. Going through Judas Priest albums for now, wish I had paid more attention to their work before.

>>6538194
When I was working on my Zombie doom mod, I would listen to Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead's soundtrack.

I fucking hate that I'm not motivated to continue it lately. Been nearly a year.

>>6538228
>What shotgun does it come with?
Laser shotgun, I presume.

>>6538228
>I listen to a lot of that stuff myself. Going through Judas Priest albums for now, wish I had paid more attention to their work before.
I've been listening to Stained Class a lot lately, the albums with Les Binks are pure gold. Will you be seeing them on tour?

>>6535865
Post a page. Or just something tiny. Hype!

>>6538250
I'm too much of a shy neet to go to concerts. Especially given current events.

>>6538275
They're not resuming until next year, I think. I'd normally say it's alright to head out by yourself, but yeah, we live in a different world now.

Do you guys play Plutonia with keys or mouse? I want to play it with pure controls like someone would have in the 90s but how do you do it? I gave up classic controls when i got to that level with the room that's just a big narrow donut surrounded by lava with chaingunners, revenants, and mancubi all around. Impossible without a mouse

why is brutal doom not included in the you want to play f*cking doom infographic?

>>6538339
because it's shit

>>6538337
Absolutely nobody would have played Plutonia with keyboard only in the 90s, by the time Final Doom was released, keyboard + mouseturning and using autorun had become the meta, and there's no reason you wouldn't do it unless you were clueless or you had a computer too weak to do both Doom + mouse drivers (in which case you wouldn't have the memory to run Plutonia).

The .wad is very much made with mouse turning in mind, don't think for a second that you were ever expected to play with keyboard only.

>>6538337
I was playing on a keyboard the first time I beat Plutonia.

>>6538360
Playing on I'm Too Young To Die.

>>6538345
git gud

>>6538358
Mouse adoption was like 60%-70% when Final Doom rolled out. Quake was the game changer.

>>6538159
fucking tlou hahahah

>>6538367
I can promise you that very few people made any worthwhile headway through Plutonia on UV without a mouse unless they savescummed themselves retarded.

>>6538361
HMP. It would've been a pain in the ass on UV, but doable.

>>6538365
>takes a cyberdemon down with 3 ssg shots
i'm gonna play hd because it's more casual, i guess

>>6538365
casual

>>6538375
With the default key bindings? No objection there. Rebinds make it possible since you can expand your strafing options. In the end, you don't really need a mouse to beat most wads. It just gives you more room for error.

Man, this stage was total bullshit.

>>6538345
>>6538339
i don't think it's shit but it's not included because of how unrepresentative of the doom community it is and because people will hear about it regardless.

>>6538435
Is that the unity port?
also it should not take you 40 minutes to beat a doom 1 map

Damn, Consume Thy Flesh is a huge difficulty spike.

>>6538337
I play with wasd, space for use and mouseturning.

>>6538435
it WAS supposed to be the total ending to doom; until ult doom came out because people said it was easy.

So I want a bunch of pillars to constantly move up and down. I can do it with WE "Floor Start Moving Up and Down". But you have to walk over each one for them to start moving. This is the best I've came up with.

The next best thing would be a switch but unfortunately there is no SR "Floor Start Moving up and down". There are only a bunch of S actions that basically move the the floor up wait then back down once (or repeatable.

Ideally I would just like them moving up and down right off the bat the second the map starts without any player intervention but you know, working with what I have here in doom format.

I can't use ACS since doom format AFAIK.

I know I messed up by doing this in doom format I'm going to do udmf or hexen next time.

Any ideas to do this?

>>6538337
Just change your habits. Do not turn around to walk away, use strafe for precise aiming etc. You'll make use of such skills even when you'll eventually bring the mouse back. But it's pretty tasty to play with keyboard only, no matter what WAD. Movement physics, set of enemies and weapons - all the same.

>>6538337
and of course take care of bindings

>>6538530
Can't you just attach them to a single tag?

>>6538520
Ultimate Doom wasn't the result of people calling Doom easy. It was when Doom 1 finally got a proper retail release, after being mail order only beforehand, and added an extra episode as a bonus. It was released after Doom 2 already came out, too.

>>6538530
Doom guy would kill jesus simply because he's the son of the creator of evil.

>>6538552
ofc! ty sir

I've been doing them all without a tag like a door oddly enough.

>>6538194
hell yeah. Some good ol southern sludge doom. For lighter(sometimes) stuff I've been listening to buckethead because romero reminded me of him and he is god. Not even beeing ironic. It's great music to map to.

>>6538612
I don't think you should treat things that aren't doors like doors. I think GZ Doom will actually do the action to the sector behind it, but other ports will actually do it to 0-tag sectors which will probably crash the game.

>>6538201
clive barkers undying

fuck this game

>>6538625
>eyehategod
b - a - to the - s - e - d

>>6538159

Is it possible to download this midi collection somewhere?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfbK4pt7rdhjsMQQ_E5jVe98cNhlrdcle

>>6538807
>b - a - to the - s - e - d
That's a way of saying based I've never seen, heh

>>6538201
call of cthulhu
f.e.a.r
realms of the haunting (source port never)
s.t.a.l.k.e.r

what was wrong with jim flynn? just finished enigma episode and I don't get why you would make levels with this amount of backtracking and hidden doors with no indications
or maybe mid90s was a different timeline

>>6538194
I unironically just listen to MIDIs through foobar.

So I got pak1, pak0 and the other files.

I wanna do as much as a vanilla friendly playthrough as possible, theoretically I should emulate DOS, but have no idea how to set up dosBOX.Or if dosBOX is anything close to how Quake on DOS would look like (didn't windows95 exit already?.

>>6538159

>>6539184
>pinky not biting his pinky

>>6538358
Every wad should be banned which can't be done with arrow keys and keyboard turning.

>>6539207
this but unironically

>>6539202
anon...

>>6538367
That makes me think, how long since the release of Quake did the full utilization of the mouse and keyboard become part of the PC FPS norm? Cus I know that by default Quake also had the arrow keys bound for forward, backward, and turning left and right just like Doom 1 & 2. So clearly despite of the fact that Quake was designed around using the mouse and keyboard (along with WASD for that matter, if I'm correct), Id did have the foresight to have the arrow keys for looking and movement as well, in case there were players that were still used to Doom's controls (which I'd imagine there were plenty of).

On a side note, it's clearly not retro, but I also remember some Call of Duty games had the option to turn off freelook for some reason on PC. I forget when it was dropped, but the last entries I remember having it were MW2, 3 and Blops 1 I think.

>>6539228
release quake also had autoaim, just like doom

>>6539202
love it

>>6539228
I'd assume that in Quakeworld, the current standard FPS layout became quickly popular. I don't think anyone was playing Q2/3, or Unreal without it.

>>6539167
I just listen to .midis too, sometimes.
Osiris TC and Crucified Dreams have some pretty crunk tracks.

>>6539228
I remember playing Quake 2 on keyboard like a lunatic and final boss was quite tough. And later I played with mouse and it was a cakewalk. I think even in Q2 it was still balanced with keyboard in mind.

>>6539241
well shit just now noticed the pipe is still visible in one frame
should be ok now

>>6539253
how was makron tough with no mouseaim if he literally always stays on ground level
pop quad, bust out the chaingun and the exoskeleton melts in a few seconds, finish off with bfg or rail

Lighting differentials are super fun. I regret neglecting them until now.

>>6539258
Without mouse I can't circlestrafe, so it actually requires effort to balance dodging and shooting. Same kind of thing with Doom bosses. I suppose someone who's better than me at both shooting and dodging would have less problems though.

>>6538201
Chasm the rift is basically a poor man's quake if you liked that

>>6538714
Not that hard to UV pistol start if you do things in the right order.

>>6539171
Runs like ass on DOSBox.

>>6539285
what's the most 96 experience possible for playing it?

>>6538194
Vidya music, mainly. Sometimes music from Fist of the North star

Is nuDoom on the Switch any good?

>>6539316
An actual DOS PC, a good virtual machine, or maybe DOSemu.

>>6539361
Pretty decent

>>6539272
It was also done by a handful of Ukrainian guys on a shoestring budget.

>>6539316
use WinQuake if you absolutely must do vanilla
I ran it on NT 4.0 back in the day

>>6539359
I love HnK's music.

>>6539382
>WinQuake
I'll try it out

>>6539447
>>6539382
uuh where do I get it

>>6539228
WASD/mouse became the default in the quake killer era, so between Q2 and Q3 at which point it was taken for granted. Counterstrike was the final push

>>6539446
One of my favorite soundtracks honestly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHLVDFbAPOQ

>>6539453
I probably would've figured Half Life in general being the point of no return for that WASD. Even if the arrow keys also were bound for movement and looking.

Also can someone explain to me why the first half or so of all Call of Duty games released had the feature to disable freelook, even when locking the Y axis was irrelevant at the point when CoD 1 came out? Was it just a really lazy oversight on IW/Treyarc's pat with the early CoDs being based on Idtech 3?

>>6539470
>Was it just a really lazy oversight on IW/Treyarc's pat with the early CoDs being based on Idtech 3?
Yes. CoD1 also has strafe jumping.

>>6539450
? https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/420-winquake/

>COD
>Half Life
>Counter Strike
NOT RETRO

>>6539480
>CoD1 also has strafe jumping
You're absolutely right lol. I think in most CoDs from 4 to Ghosts (I think?), you could strafejump in the campaign but not in the multiplayer cus the movement physics in the latter being different for balance probably. I think the acceleration however is so low that you don't notice unless you crank up your FOV.

>>6539491
1998, bud.

>>6539498
Don't respond to him, he's unironically mentally ill.

>>6539470
Half Life would have been a blip if not for CS. You really can't overrate the impact of that mod.

>>6538182
>Czechbox
Patrician tastes

>>6539507
CS was huge, but Half-Life was really big on its own.

>>6538182
I want to get into mapping so I've been playing a bunch of random wads for inspiration. I think the last one I played was Lunatic.

>>6538218
>stock/library music
There's a surprisingly good amount of bangers in music libraries, considering how cookie-cutter the idea of it might come off as.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCzlHoepF4o

>0:35:38
>UFO PORRRNOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>6539514
Not in multi. HL released at the tail end of the LAN era and it was seen as inferior even to stuff like Q2 or Sin which didn't get that much play in the first place. At that time the most played games were SC/TA and Q1. Even Duke got more play than Half Life. It was the quintessential single player FPS.

>>6539574
lol no, fuck off schizo

>>6538218
is it stuff like this?
> https://youtu.be/ypdnSS0La7s
i discovered this kind of music through vaporwave and i unironically love it, but i am a neophyte and don't know where to look to get more

>>6538159

>>6539595
Yeah, among other things. It definitely goes into that direction.

Youtube is a great place to start. There are many channels uploading old library/stock music and since most labels have a deal with Google you can find most of their music catalogs on YT(mostly as auto-generated contend).

Physical collecting can be expensive now, especially stuff on vinyl or older CDs.

please don't laugh, but I can't get the doom 1 iwad to run on chocolate. I checked the faq and it said put the exe and the iwad in a folder together but that doesn't work

>>6539661
>it doesen't work
what exactly do you mean it doesen't work?
It throws yuu an error?
It bsods your system?
It refuses to lift the heavy boxes?
It kicks your puppy?
It sets your house on fire?

Our local telepaths are hungover so you'd have to elaborate.

>>6539661
?
It really should be as simple as putting doom.wad in the Chocolate Doom folder and double clicking chocolate-doom.exe

>>6539682
it says I'm missing a file when I try to load the exe. should I just copy the entire contents of the chocolate doom folder over to this new folder with the doom iwad?

>>6539262
How well can you see the lights from the top bars? Because just having it be solid black up there looks weird.

>>6539650
gib recommendations pls

have a bonk edit

>>6539689
you should copy your wad in the directory with EXE not the other way around
Of course EXE won't work without its libraries duh

>>6539689
Did you point to the wad in the choco setup? Did you try a launcher like ZDL and if so, does it run thru that?

>>6539689
download chocolate doom. unzip the file into a folder somewhere called Chocolate-Doom or whatever. copy/paste or move doom.wad into that folder. double click chocolate-doom.exe

>>6539694
>>6539695
>>6539697
got it to work now, thanks all

>>6539693
Needs:
Caleb and cultist edit
Revenant and Doomguy edit

>>6539717
A revenant one would be perfect given the pose.

>>6539727
the revenant one exists sadly I only saw it in one of those compilation videos so I don't have the exact image

Does anyone have suggestions for more modern games that have a lot of similarity to Descent 1 and 2?

>>6539775
no. have you played terminal velocity or forsaken?

>>6539587
zoomer

just made the biggest regret of my life

>>6539830
imagine being so fucking delusional to claim anyone cared about your gay movie quotes and strippers dukematch games after quake and half life curbstomped it so much into oblivion that the sequel was delayed for over a decade. action half-life was huge, i was there, eat shit schizo.

>>6539915
not him, but i sure am quite the schizophrenic for enjoying a game you don't like.

if you're going to insult people on the anonymous board for retro video games, at least use the correct insults

>>6539915
you need to be over 30 years of age to post on this board

>>6539876
>You're going to need a browner brick...

>>6539876
something something black stool joke

>>6539915
kys hlnigger.

Anyone have any really obscure and strange wads they would recommend?

>>6540062
deep dream doom puts all the textures through that filter. runs slow on my computer though

shadow warrior stinks

>>6539915
Why are half life fans like this?.

>>6540154
no!

>>6539482
Man getting the music to work was a bitch

>>6540174
most people use source ports because they aren't stupid idiots who want to pretend they're using DOS

>>6539915
Nice falseflag dwterminator, you almost had us

>>6539876
>"Oh look! A free heart...."

>"Brrrown hearts! In Moine Cabal!"

>>6540062
if you have a taste for /g/ memes, ARCHIE is an absolutely ridiculous ride into the mind of an autistic madman.

>>6540183
I just want the original experience mate.

>>6539154
90's era had a lot of mappers that really loved making large and obtuse levels that required a bit of puzzle solving in order to navigate. While there are people who do enjoy such levels, it most definitely isn't a popular mapping style.
Most modern maps that incorporate elements of puzzles, tend to base them around combat, rather than exploration.

Man this turned out slick as hell.

>Eternal DOOM MAP30
>oh god this is fucking awful
>give it the college try, spend a full hour wandering the map before deciding to use a walkthrough
>you have to go inside an UNMARKED FAKE WALL to hit a necessary switch
THAT ISN'T A PUZZLE
THAT ISN'T A PUZZLE AT ALL THAT'S JUST BULLSHIT TO FORCE PLAYERS TO CHEAT AND LOOK AT A GUIDE WHAT THE FUCK

>>6539690
You can see enough to know there's not nothing, but not make out most details.

>>6540154
Amazing to think Randy Pitchford would help design such racist garbage
His humor and social etiquette seemed so high above Shadow Warrior...

>>6539876
I UNDERSTAND WHY ALL THE CULTISTS ARE PLAYING THIS GAME THESE DAYS, IT'S BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO THROW TNT IN MY BLOOD. I ALSO LOVE TO THROW TNT IN MY BLOOD. IT'S THE MOST FUN YOU CAN POSSIBLY HAVE.
WHAT IS THE POINT OF BLOOD?

Played a couple levels and a love it. not only the gameplay's smooth as hell but the athmosphere is 10/10

Also the fuck happened to my screenshot

>>6540416
Your screenshot got CGAd

>>6538153
Hearts of Demons - Revenant is now in Beta
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=63173

>>6540328
I wish there were more maps for Hexen that really took advantage of ACS (map scripting). The possibilities for clever puzzles and interactivity go far beyond what the original game did.

>>6540454
1/12 of puzzle has been solved in /vr/

>>6540328
Finally
There were some legitimately fun maps in this set but when it was bad, GOD was it bad. I think I'd rather go through the entirety of Hexen again than replay certain maps from here

>>6540328
Isn't Eternal Doom a puzzle WAD? You obviously missed the clues, anon.

>>6540062
DBP20

>>6540479
Anon look at this shit
Tell me what the clue is
Oh I know what the clue is, it's a SLIGHTLY misaligned texture but given how subtle it is and given how none of the previous 31 maps in this megawad required you to go through fake walls, tell me this is fair

>>6540062
whatever the hell this is
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion

>>6540485
It's absolutely fair. You deserve it for playing that POS WAD

>>6540491
You're probably right

I started off playing Brutal Doom because I heard of it and that's what got me interested in playing Doom again after all these years. Now all I play is Chocolate Doom.

>>6540487
A good adaptation.

>If you haven't paid for DOOM, you are playing illegally. That means you owe us money. Of course, a guy like you probably owes a lot of people money — your friends, maybe even your parents. Stop being a freeloader and register DOOM. Call us now at 1-800-IDGAMES. We can help!

>>6540634
Good man, though you should branch out and play wads of various compat levels for a better range. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone liking Brutal even if I personally think it's shit

There's virtue signaling and then there's this >>6540634

Started my 300 minutes of /vr/ playthrough. Map01 is up. I played only through a few random levels from the wad, but I think I will be able to handle it difficulty-wise. The thing that is worrying me is one map made by RjY - his Aggravatingly Cramped traumatized me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ZetOG-0dE

>>6540682
I've played a small amount. Pic related are the ones I've beaten so far (I no longer use command lines btw, I took this picture right before I deleted all my command lines/shortcuts and now I just use DoomLauncher since it keeps track of my playtime, statistics, and demos). I just found it ironic that I went from one extreme to the other. I went from only playing Brutal Doom, to only playing GZDoom with non-gameplay mods like Brightmaps Plus and Vanilla Smooth Weapons Enhanced, to preferring Crispy Doom with PerK's Hi-Res SFX and Vanilla Doom Smooth Weapons, and now I prefer Chocolate Doom with zero mods. I actually like that there are no level stats because you have to truly memorize each map when doing full-episode runs. Also I never realized how annoying the "You've found a secret!" message is until I played without it. I started playing Chocolate Doom just for the lulz, just to see what it was like for Compet-N players submitting speedruns, and I ended up liking it even more than Crispy Doom. Here is my Scythe Episode 1 UV-Fast in 15:38 demo, recorded in Chocolate Doom, of course
> https://youtu.be/rb5vVmE5J98
I'm no pro speedrunner, I just like grinding for a personal bests, but I bet it's a better time than most of you fags can get

Happy birthday Quake

>>6540832
Do you think Ranger realized it was father's day yesterday, or has he forgotten

>>6540832
>tfw you share your birthday with the shittiest quake
i was so happy when they released it and then it all went to fucking SHIT

>>6540679
I'm still a registered customer

>>6540305
nice knife spin

>>6538194
fuck yeah, I listen to shit like Slayer (mostly the really trashy shit and stuff like Behind the Crooked Cross which Deep Into the Code is ripped off of) and second wave Norwegian Black Metal, like Mayhem, Burzum, Immortal, Emperor, etc.

Also 70s and early 80s punk and hardcore. The Crucifucks, Negative Approach, Big Black and early GG Allin and the Jabbers are some favorites.

>>6540928
*thrashy, not trashy

>>6538148
wow, I'd totally have pic that as a poster in my wall
Saved

>>6539661
Also, if the other IWADS don't work in the future, make sure to rename them according to the readme file in the main folder. I don't remember it by heart, but I think you have to rename Doom Ultimate to "doomu" to play it.

>>6540416
this doom 64?

>>6540953
It's clearly Quake 2

>>6540953
Looks like it.

the fucking lack of shotgun animations fucking KILLS me on Doom 64. I know in the weapon art it shows a lever action on the Shotguns which I can sort of suspend my disbelief on with the standard shotgun.. "Oh hes just cocking it where I can't see with the lever" but how the fuck you gonna have lever action on a double barrel?

>>6540958
Is it?
>>6540960
Same, man. It's N64, they couldn't fit the animation and sound. Still waiting for a mod. It's moddable, right?

>>6540964
there is already a mod that adds them I believe

>>6540964
it doesnt seem like the few frames of reloading animation would be that much space... the sound is there already. I wish they could've cut something, anything else.. a few textures, whatever

>>6540964
>>6540953
it's quake
winquake no likey various screenshot formats, you'll have to use the ingame screenshot function and convert from pcx

>>6540864
QUAKE 1 IS THE BEST QUAKE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
>>6540860
RANGER IS A FUCKING CHAD BUT HE ALSO LOVES HIS FUCKING WIFE AND KID
SEE:
https://imgur.com/gallery/SnmnG

OK dudes, so did Doomguy die?

A friend of mine and me were talking about it and the way he sees it, doomguy died, woke up in hell, and killed everything so hard that the demons were like "jesus christ dude fine you can come back to life", found out hell was on earth, killed the fuck out of them again, and then when they finally recovered, decided to go back into hell again, murder them all *again*, and stay there because he was sick of them being alive

Is this a correct synopsis of events?

>>6540993
> quake but every enemy is some variation of shambler and/or vore

And then 100 Archviles teleport in! XD

>>6540993
That's a lotta Shamblers not firing their lightning.

>>6541060
They're probably so mad and fueled by rage at the sight of the funny bhop man (TM) that they basically retarded themselves to the point of forgetting about their lighting capabilities.

>>6541060
Theyre just little babies that haven't learned how yet

>>6540062
I think it was made for Gzdoom but there's this one mod I can't remember the name of that had this really surreal theme to it about this other worldly being finding out about humanity and was so inspired by them he tried to change his form into that of a human. He failed and turned out as this weird abomination and so you fight other out of this world abominations. I remember the theme being mostly black and white and there was a comic that went along with it to explain the story. I also remember it being on ModDB and using 3D models.

>>6541042
That many Shamblers would fucking rape Ranger in seconds sadly. Bad ass art though... That linked comic is pretty sweet.

>>6541060
Because whoever did that piece doesn't understand that Q1 is fundamentally different from Doom. No hordes of 50 enemies at once that you can cut down with a handful of rockets but clever movement, situational awareness and target prioritization, that's Q1.

>>6541115
>No Fun Allowed
Come on lad, this makes for a better comic

>>6541168
No.

>>6541168
>doesn't get the style of the game
>better

>>6540993
not that quake you dumb motherfucker

>>6541115
makes sense, considering it's from the QC comic

>>6541175
>not even taking the 10 seconds to make the sign an actual brush

>>6541205
Not wasting my time on Q1 editing you mega autist

based AI

>>6541003
Come on DOOMLore Bros, I know you're here...

>>6541253
lol what program did that?

>>6541248
You truly are no fun allowed.

>>6541270
https://mobile.twitter.com/tg_bomze/status/1274245778551328769

>>6540195
OBSESSED

>>6541253
Robert Z'dar?

>>6540359
>racist garbage
lmao, I can't wait for your self-loathing white genes to be bred out by stronger black DNA.

>>6541253
tranny enablers

>>6540359
Are you Canadian or what

>>6541003
>>6541268
You could look at it that way.

Common conception is that Doomguy dies at the end of E1M8, then ends up in hell (Deimos) in E2M1, then goes to the surface of hell with E3M1. Not really sure how he makes it back to Earth though.
Personally, I'd like to think he just gets viciously mauled and left for dead as he's ambushed on arrival on Deimos, and then manages to recover (perhaps with a Soul Sphere), and continues to fight. After all, would someone who valiantly fights hell's forces for the good of mankind be damned to hell when dying?

Doom 64 ending with Doomguy staying in hell to fight the demons lines up with the setup for Doom 4, and that's fine I suppose, but Doom 64 was made by Midway, and Doom 4 by a completely different iD Software, so that together with the different tone and style of Doom 64 and Doom 4, to me makes them fit less with the original games, and I personally prefer to think of them as separate from Classic Doom, or just a potential timeline that is separate from Final Doom and whatever pwad you can imagine.

I don't particularly like the idea of Doomguy and Doomslayer being the same character, as I much prefer the notion that Doomguy is Just A Man, rather than some sort of prophesized demi-god that Doomslayer is. A lot of people don't agree with me on that, but that's fine. A lot of people also get upset when I say that the (pretty recent idea of) all .wads ever fitting together in a canon with Doom 4, is kind of dumb.

>>6541329
Kind of looks like Ben Shapiro which is fitting given that BJ is a jew.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1Ke7ZO_xk

>>6538861
Probably not, but you can rip most midis from the wads themselves.

Theres this midi pack I got from MrZzul that has a lot of whats in that playlist; https://mega.nz/file/1spWFQqA#T_7DVWXCgKiHgQm4BXKe21cdK8VdTsKyb4rwsk0zBoM

Made a door. Not sure why.

>>6539876
finished the image

>>6540993
Fucking retarded drawing. I hate it

>>6539876
>Do you have that game Blood? Ophelia was telling me she was playing it on her computerbook!

>>6541338
that's something weird about doom where 64 and reboot have their own aesthetic/tonal differences and somehow are sequels, even if people force a multiverse just to justify it
aside from joke mods, oc mods or those based on different media, a lot of wads, gameplay mods, custom assets and others try to fit doom's aesthetic and lore
there's this specific genre of doom content that feels like fanfiction that could have been potentially canon in an alternate timeline where doom is a bigger series with more entries and content, for better or worse
even when later doom games have interesting ideas, they still feel more like their own unique take and sometimes misunderstand doom
this idea of a unified lore feels like gentrification because not every iconic franchise needs it
feels like pop culture homogenization when you think doom of all things needs lore and you already fucked up by destroying the complete visual difference doomguy and master chief had

>>6541509
>this idea of a unified lore feels like gentrification because not every iconic franchise needs it
Thank you. Fuck all this capeshit garbage for forcing this meme.

>>6541520
i find it ironic when the devs talk about star wars treating luke like a different character but then treat doom like it was a "tribute to pop culture media" series that's just a simple mix of sci-fi and fantasy where every cliche can fit and the stuff that reminds you it's a series about satanism comes last
say what you want about brutal doom and the cancelled doom 4 but we've had mods and fan content that felt like more natural additions to the franchise, as if there was a scope to built around
doesn't help that the new games adopt public made concepts and memes around doom as if it was official but they don't even go further to add in something more obscure than "doot"

>Doomguy sprite is armed with assault rifle despite that there is no such weapon in the game
>Elf is armed with a staff with white globe on top, there is no such staff
>Wizard is armed with staff with purple gem on top, he has no such staff
>Strifeguy is armed with some gun that looks nothing like assault rifle in game
>Duke Nukem is armed with some kind of assault rifle-looking weapon
>Caleb is armed with what looks like a revolver, despite not having a revolver in game
So Cleric, Racist Grandpa and maybe Fighter are the only ones who have proper weapons in their sprites?

>>6541531
Wait, nevermind, waffle guy carries a proper zorcher as well.

>>6541531
Quake ranger has a non existing gun too i think

>>6541531
Gordon Freeman uses different MP5 in world view and first person.

>>6541548
His weapon actually differs depending on which he holds, every weapon has a View Model, then the associated World Model and Player Model, colloquially called 'peewees' by people who make models and skins.

>>6541530
I don't even hate Doom 4, it was ok (haven't played Eternal yet), I just think it's completely unnecessary and really annoying that there's forced notion that it's supposed to be the same cannon.
Again, fuck capeshit comicbooks, fuck Avengers, fuck Iron Man, fuck Thor, fuck Marvel, fuck Disney. You don't need to tightly interconnect goddamn everything.

>>6541557
a twisted metal like route would make more sense but if i recall, the reboot had a scene with references to 1, 2 and black?
then again, might be an easter egg
also that game sort of flopped, didn't it?
doom also benefits from the lack of lore, when you consider how open for intrepertation some stuff can be or the experimentation of the series

>>6541545
Yep, that too. Was Quake the first game to have proper guns in world view?

>>6541548
Hmm, I was gonna attribute this to the low resolution of models, but no, you can clearly see what particular model of MP5 they are based on.

>>6539493
In CoD multiplayer you can most certainly strafe jump. It doesnt make you dramatically faster but it adds a definite improvement to the smoothness of your movement.

>>6541530
I feel like Doom as a series has been mostly played out, but if they ever decide to make another, I'd hope they take it in a very different direction

>>6541548
The HUD graphic for the MP5 also differs from v/w_9mmar models I think
And the shotgun HUD sprite is a Benelli and not a SPAS

>>6541561
I loved how Twisted Metal did it with Twisted Metal Black, where it's suddenly the edgepocalypse and everything is grim, bleak and gritty as fuck, and the reason is it's all in Sweet Tooth's head, that's how a dark and disturbed psychopath like him perceives the world, and canonically it's just not like that.

They could honestly have gone with that further. That new game they did for the PS3 seems like it was leaning on that a little, but it also seems like that game was rushed as fuck and they barely got to do what they wanted with it.

>>6541562
Originally it was supposed to be silenced. it had silenced gunshot in alpha.

>>6541580

>>6541593
what kind of gun is that machinegun? That's not an MP5.

>>6541605
Rear half of an MP5A2, with the stock extended, and no magazine in the magazine well, and then the front half is kind of a misshaped front end of an AR15 variant, with an M203 launcher mounted.

The shotgun is an Ithaca M37 'Stakeout'

>>6541605
It seems to me like an amalgamation of various MP5s and some other stuff
I think it's "Somewhat plausible firearm design from an artist who hopes that people won't notice"

>find cool looking wad or TC
>discover that it requires jumping to progress
>instantly delete it and never look back
If I wanted to jump I'd be playing quake or doom eternal

>>6541253
Hey, it's Phil Schneider!

>>6538625
Fuck yeah, New Orleans metal.

>>6541605

>>6541586
anything would've sounded better than this metal stick banging on an empty oil drum they decided to use instead

>>6541713
"I must press space, therefore the experience is ruined"

>>6541741
HD model pack gets shit for good reason, but at least the sounds for the M4 aren't as bad

>>6541753
I think everything looks mostly better, what do you dislike about it?

Duke 3D World Tour is hitting the Switch. Is that gonna even be playable?

>>6541756
It alters the artistic vision. Also who gives a fuck about the M4... elite units all over the world use the more reliable MP5.

>>6541562
>Was Quake the first game to have proper guns in world view?
Well clearly not, given Ranger's only worldmodel gun is nonexistent (and shared with Grunts). He does switch to the axe if you're using it, though.

>>6541763
>artistic vision
Lost forever.

>>6541763
>It alters the artistic vision.
Don't really care about that desu.

>Also who gives a fuck about the M4... elite units all over the world use the more reliable MP5.
Maybe 40 years ago. If you look around today, very few elite units use the MP5, in fact the majority has been gravitating towards AR15s and AR18 derivatives.

>>6541748

>>6541713
Mindless opinion. Anyone who's making a TC for Doom which isn't from 23 years ago isn't going to stick to Vanilla constrains, with the lone exception of Rekkr.

>>6538148
what are some wads with cute grills for purefags?

>>6541823
>gibbing a baron

>>6540960
It actually does sound like he's cocking a lever when he shoots the shotgun.

The Super Shotgun though just makes no sense, it's clearly meant to be opened and reloaded with 2 shells each time but it just shoots... it barely even kicks which takes away ALOT of the impact that made them the greatest shotguns in gaming history in 1 and 2.

>>6540968
Anyone know if this is true? I can't find one. I know Quake 1.5 adds them to its shotguns and more animation/more visible hands to its other weapons. Always hated how the weapons just fucking float in mid air.

Was Carmack just not happy with the way the models and textures for Rangers hands and arms looked up close or something? It's such a bizarre design decision

>>6541842
Carmack fought for a Use Button

>>6541828
also
>red blood

Oh my fucking god why are there so fucking many barons in Perfect Hatred

>>6541912
Couldn't afford doors.

>>6541828
They literally split in half and show exposed viscera on death. You're right about the blood though.

>>6541903
Then what's the fucking deal with the weapons floating in mid air with virtually no hands holding them or cocking animations when they had already done it right years before in Doom 1/2, albeit in sprite form

Quake 2 has weird shit with the weapons too, like the machine gun or whatever it is with no fucking muzzle flash, the only indication its shooting is it bucking back and forth but it looks retarded with absolutely no visual cues of shooting at the barrel.

>>6541823
Comic sauce?

>>6541815
Theres a difference between a doom tc and a game running on the doom engine, anon. If I'm playing doom with cosmetic differences, I still want it to play like doom

>>6541741
I always thought it sounded more like
>CHPCHPCHPCHPCHPCHPCHPCHPCHPCHP

>>6540492
was eternal guy based on GLOOM or did the artist just make him

>>6541976
Artist is Setz. The dialog in the comic is from an actual christian review site. Which ironically is the only review site these days able to separate their beliefs and game merits into separate categories.

>>6542018
Thanks.

>>6542018
>spoiler
Of all review websites/outlets to be able to see video games on their own merits and not through this one-sided lens made from the reviewers' beliefs, and it's a Christian review site? A Christian review site has more merit than something like Kotaku or Polygon? Jesus Christ. Pun intended.

Then again there are other good sites out there like Giant Bomb, but still.

>>6542018
>>6542028
The best part? The reviewer visited /v/ once years ago, I think he was actually a woman.

>>6541756
-changes the glock into a beretta with shitty animations
-changes the MP5 into a M4 carbine, which would make more sense to have a grenade launcher, but that raises the question of why it shares pistol ammo
-adds random green shit to zombie arms
-changes the purple/blueish color scheme of the agrunts and hivehands to red/orange
-human characters start going into uncanny valley
-overall changes don't mesh very well with the world design

the new shotgun sounds are great though

>>6541756
No, The original graphics look fine for the time. The HD models look dated as hell. Not good enough to really make it hold up. Also the dumb changes to shit like the mp5 make no sense.

>>6541091
Don't make me scour through the entirety of Moddb for one fucking mod, that place is a hellscape.

>>6542061
It's not that parody site that pretends it's a christian reviewer is it? I remember it being posted on /v/ some time ago and it was pretty funny but don't expect nu/v/ to discuss anything like a review site, even a parody, with any civility these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz2Ex-3UWZg

>>6542234
I remember hearing some years back that either Punchatz or Adrian still had a mold or two, this is cool

https://www.christcenteredgamer.com/index.php/reviews/pc-mac/4807-doom

>>6542234
We need scans from those original molds so that a 100% perfect 3D model of the SMM can be produced.

>>6542268
He plans to do just that.

i wonder what gregor would think of that drpyspy design of the mastermind that combines the classic and reboot spiderdemons, that shows up in d4v and metadoom
because the only major flaw i can think of is missing the wires

>>6541548
>>6541763
>>6541753
>>6541741
>>6541774
>>6541775
>>6542147
>>6542080
kys hlcucks

>>6542343
t. Alf

>>6542358
Don't give him attention, fool.

>>6542203
The only reason I found out about it was in some TOP 25 DOOM MODS video or something like that.

>>6542360
Just felt like messing with him a little.

>>6542367
It doesn't matter, he's gonna samefag and have a meltdown for hours.

>>6542382
Nothing the jannies and mods can't take care of, as long as they do their jobs that is.

>>6542391
They won't, not soon enough.

What are some good wad/map combos? Sometimes I want to try out gameplay and weapon mods but don't want to play maps that clearly weren't designed for that sort of stuff

Guys, I need a mod like Smooth Doom, but without enemy's endless height. Because it is quite weird to aim not directly to an enemy but to a point under or above him. Any suggestions?

So I heard somewhere that Doom is "open source", but I'm interested in the history of it. Was it always open source? I heard rumors about how Carmack fought to keep the engine open source, but I can't find anything official (news articles, interviews, etc) covering the whole story.

>>6542415
Source code was released back in '97, I believe.

>>6542268
I feel like Doom 3D models could benefit from some sort of low poly cel-shaded art style that tried to be mimick the aesthetic of the classic games, from the color palette to details like "Doomguy's top of his head looks kinda flat but at least the aspect ratio is correct this time".
Like you could get some "capped" animation if necessary, maybe Doomguy's HUD face thing work because of said "cappyness", have an actual animated soul inside the Soulsphere, make items colorfull without how Eternal does them and maybe the simpler and less busy designs means models don't have to spawn in or disappear during gameplay.
I feel like a Doom game trying to bring its original art style in 3D in a more faithfull way would require a good enough engine that even John Carmack and most source port devs are surprised.
Something that even surprises Decino or Marphyblack.
Something that i once imagined being a weird mix of Slayer's Testaments, YPOD, some beloved wads/mods and maybe Prodeus.
Something that could be a "deeper" Doom tribute than MetaDoom i guess.
A game that would feel like fanfiction but would take years to even be concieved.

>>6542415
Wolf's source was released in 95, as it was fairly obsolete by that point and raycvaster engines were well understood at that point, Carmack saw no reason to keep it.
In 97 one guy decided to write a book on Doom source, which was yet to be released, so he asked Carmack, and since Quake 1 was released and Quake 2 was going to be out soon, Carmack saw no harm in releasing the source.
However Doom had some proprietary sound code in it which had to be removed, and so the source for Linux version was released instead. Ther very first port was DosDoom - backportting Doom to Dos and fixing sound.
By the time half of that book was written it was already late 98, the graphicvs were advancing very fast and the audience at large was no longer ineterested in Doom. so that guy gave up on finishing it, and so it was never released.

>>6542430
this is a little muddled. when the source was released in late 97 it was because id had given up on the book idea.

Is he right?
>>6542319

>>6542427
Also, imagine if the new Wolfenstein games tried to look like 3D, so BJ is almost a "block head", the nazis have glowing blue eyes and the human bosses look like they could chew someone's entire head,

>>6542410
Smooth Doom is already a GZDoom mod, just enable mouselook and disable autoaim and infinitely tall enemies.

>>6542234
Cool!

>>6542503
Thanks, I didn't think infinitely tall enemies is autoaim.

>>6542415
Carmack has always been of the opinion that science shouldn't be inhibited by patents or other restrictions, and there's a strong truth to that, to not be able to use someone else's idea and to build upon it, that would slow science down.
To him, there's no moral reason why one shouldn't be able to take the concept of some invention and not be able to use it as a base to further build upon, to make the concept even better, and he was VERY vocal in that iD Software would never file for any software patents, under the threat of quitting, and the other guys very well couldn't afford to oppose him on that, they needed his intellect and prowess to build games as advanced as they actually were at those times.

>>6542478
That would be really cool, I always liked the cartoony aesthetic of Wolfenstein 3D.

>>6542415
It's not just Doom. Every id game up to and including Doom 3 had its source code released, and Raven also released source code for Heretic and Hexen as well, albeit under a shitty license, though eventually fans convinced them to release it under GPL. Strife source code was unfortunately lost.

Also I like how Carmack saw no problem giving Wolf3D engine to Tom Hall and Quake 2 engine to Romero, even though they parted on rather bad terms (though in case of Romero it may have been a case of 4D chess because idtech 2 ended up really fucking him over in the end).

>>6542925
Didn't Strife's source code get lost in computer maintenance or something?

>>6541562
Unreal maybe? The gun in the players hands in 3rd person is the pickup model.

>>6542397
Doom 4 Vanilla + Sigil on Crispy Doom is pretty based.

D4V looks best in Chocolate Doom, but Sigil is limit-removing so it won't work in Chocolate Doom, so I recommend using Crispy Doom but turn off high resolution rendering and turn off uncapped framerate. You can still use widescreen rendering if you want but that might look weird in lo-res mode. Turn on Crispy Doom's vertical recoil pitch; that is the one option in Crispy Doom that I miss the most when playing Chocolate Doom

Also here is a texture fix for Sigil made by the same guy who made the Doom Sprite Fixing Project
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-v121-new-romero-megawad-released/?page=100&tab=comments#comment-2030098

Can someobody tell me what these 3 maps are?
Also I think some of them have colored lighting, what is the port that allows this (that is not Dark Places)

>>6543027
1st and 3rd are unreleased maps by Bal.
this is the first time I'm seeing the 2nd one, but it uses daikatana textures that he also used in his xmas 2018 map. the geometry and skybox resolution seem to suggest it's quite a bit older, possibly a deathmatch map.
colored lighting is supported by pretty much every port these days. I suggest vkQuake.

https://vocaroo.com/hV1rkUuGPnX

>>6543084
I recognize three of these grunts, the classic from Doom, one from Heretic/Hexen, and there's a third one I've heard in Duke 3D

>>6540782
if you like pushing yourself, try sunlust.

>>6541509

the funniest thing bout lore in doom eternal is that it has such glaring issues with the doom 2016 lore. basically they completely fucked up.

IMO doom eternal was "design by committee". someone on the committee wanted lore, so they added lore. this also explains why some monsters, like marauder, don't fit the feel at all and fights have to be designed around "is there a marauder or not", and no pre-scripted fights even have 2 marauders.

>>6543084
You definitely need more fiber in your diet.

>>6543132
>no pre-scripted fights even have 2 marauders

>>6543113
nah i've seen some of decino's videos, i'm not gonna touch sunlust for a while. i've started following this list
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
though I've stopped working on Base Ganymede demos for the time being so that i can record higher quality demos of Scythe 1, Lunatic, and DBP20. I recorded demos of Lunatic and DBP20 but they were in GZDoom with a bunch of cosmetic mods like tiltplusplus and the demos desync without them so I'm gonna redo them in GLBoom+

>>6543113
nah i've seen some of decino's videos, i'm not gonna touch sunlust for a while. i've started following this list
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
though I've stopped working on Base Ganymede demos for the time being so that i can record higher quality demos of Scythe 1, Lunatic, and DBP20. I recorded demos of Lunatic and DBP20 but they were in GZDoom with a bunch of cosmetic mods like tiltplusplus and the demos desync without them so I'm gonna redo them in GLBoom+. also the demos were first-time completions, whereas now i prefer to play and play until i can beat it easily so that the demos are much better

>>6543140
what's wrong with what he said

as far as i know the only way to have two marauders in a fight is to let an arch-vile live long enough to spawn them

>>6543113
nah i've seen some of decino's videos, i'm not gonna touch sunlust for a while. i've started following this list
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
though I've stopped working on Base Ganymede demos for the time being so that i can record higher quality demos of Scythe 1, Lunatic, and DBP20. I recorded demos of Lunatic and DBP20 but they were in GZDoom with a bunch of cosmetic mods like tiltplusplus and the demos desync without them so I'm gonna redo them in GLBoom+. also the demos were first-time completions, whereas now i prefer to do the entire run at least 5-10 times so i can beat it easily so that the demos are much better

>>6543141
>>6543143
>>6543149
delete it for the third time jfc
paste your shit in notepad and proofread it or something

>>6543113
nah i've seen some of decino's videos, i'm not gonna touch sunlust for a while. i've started following this list
> https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/107015-wad-progression-for-skill-improvement/
though I've stopped working on Base Ganymede demos for the time being so that i can record higher quality demos of Scythe 1, Lunatic, and DBP20. I recorded demos of Lunatic and DBP20 but they were in GZDoom with a bunch of cosmetic mods like tiltplusplus and the demos desync without them so I'm gonna redo them in GLBoom+. also the demos were first-time completions, whereas now i prefer to do the entire run at least 5-10 times so i can beat it easily so that the demos are much better. i'm currently working on scythe episode 2 uv-max runs. scythe e3 is so hard to uv-max that no one's even posted demos of a scythe e3 uv-max on DSDA, so for e3 i'm gonna make IL demos

I think my Sigil broke.

>>6543151
>>6543149
>>6543143
>>6543141

>>6543150
lol i didn't think anyone was on at this hour since the thread moves so slow at this time. i didn't want to double post so i deleted it instead

>>6543084
Stock audio is fun.

>>6543141
>>6543143
>>6543149
>>6543151
ay dios mio

>>6543151
thanks, that's a cool list, i haven't played all of those

sunlust doesn't really feel slaughter-y to me, it feels really tight.

>>6541593
Some other notes:
>HL1 pistol icon is a USP .45
>HL2 crossbow icon is the HL1 crossbow

>>6543150
>>6543154
>>6543161
pls no bully

>>6543165
play lunatic first since its really short. its only 5 levels and only two of them are long. i'm looking forward to replaying that one the most. also preacher is my favorite wad ever so far if you haven't tried that

>>6543173
i've played neither preacher nor lunatic, thanks anon <3

>>6543169
The hud icon for the pistol looks like a Glock to me.

>>6543196
play lunatic using GLBoom+ so that you can see the demos that come with the WAD! specifically the first one. it's the best introductory demo i've ever seen with any WAD

DOOM: Presented in CinemaScope
(and yes, it's not the usual 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 aspect ratio, it's real deal 2.55:1 CinemaScope like in the '50s)
>the extra horizontal view of ultra-widescreen monitors but with an extra bit more width thanks to being in 2.55:1 CinemaScope
>still retains that crunchy retro look of being in a resolution close to 400p while not being too pixellated
>runs faster on my toaster laptop than rendering in native 1366x768p (or 1080p when plugged to my TV)
>is a 2x scale to 1920x752p and 4x 3840x1504p, which would be letterboxed CinemaScope in 1080p and 4K, respectively
>most importantly, that grand '50s CinemaScope epic/musical feel in DOOM
Only got this to work with LZDoom, soon gonna try this out in other games I have.

>>6541520
>>6541530
you guys are based, that's all

>>6543392
make it black and white, every sound stock sound effects from old sound effect libraries and all the voice clips done by one guy doing a transatlantic accent

fucking trash stage

>>6543515
can't disagree, but at least it's memorable compared to most other episode 4 stages

>>6542415
Love this meme, it's funny and heartwarming.

>>6543530
memorably shit

What are your favorite Hell levels in any wad?

>>6543027
>>6543042
>1st & 3rd maps never released
But why?

>>6538153
Randy's Duke port got a Switch release.
https://twitter.com/GearboxOfficial/status/1275460726346272768
It actually runs at 60fps and has controller configuration.

Demolitionist: So sad Steve Jobs died of ligma...
Korax: Who's Steve Jobs?

>>6543027
why even bother making quake maps when people are making stuff like this

>>6543873
so you can make them look and feel like quake maps
if not for the pickups, i would've said these were ut2004 dm maps

>>6543873
Because it's fun.

>6543727
fag

>>6543873
What matters most at the end of the day is gameplay. Appealing visuals are memorable, but more visually simplistic maps with good level design & combat are just as valuable. Personally I find the combat in some of the Arcane Dimensions maps to be a slog, despite the universally polished visuals.

Oh my Alien eradication is so good.
Such a good Aliens vibe, its been forever. Amazing use of alien trilogy stuff.

Fuck I am glad shit like this exists.

What is the song at the end of this cubzdoomer video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9oG2LBuMwY

>>6543708
I forgot to

>>6543965
I want it for my level im making

>>6543873
>why even bother making [GAME] maps when people are making stuff like this

>>6543965
It's from Doom 2 MAP31

>>6543727
Nice framerape

>>6541338
>After all, would someone who valiantly fights hell's forces for the good of mankind be damned to hell when dying?
Doom Eternal actually explained this if you care in a codex entry by claiming that people killed/slain by demons end up in hell.

>>6543210
nice post number

>>6543965

>>6544062
Witnessed

>>6543979
Open DOOM2.WAD in slade and take D_EVIL lump from there and put into your wad under an appropriate name.

>>6544062
>6543210
How is this number a "get" of some kind? Is it a reference to something? Cus googling it brings up some alt metal album from 2003 and a >fortnite video

>>6544202

>>6541341
was wondering if someone posted this
the improvements are slight but immediately visible since i've watched the original so many times
can't wait for an improved qdq100 proper

>>6543873
>why bother making Doom maps when Eviternity eexists?
>why bother making Quake maps when AD exists?
>why bother making Doom or Quake maps when Unreal exists?
etc.

>>6543974
Shame. They look beautiful.

what are wads or mapsets with levels taking place on large vehicles?
like moving vehicles on wheels, some based on water or even on air or space
like giant containers, trains, tanks or ships
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4fkXNlbYeE

>>6544496
All of the good Build games have a train level.

>>6543664
The living end and the spirit world wiwill always be my favourites

They really tried to go all out with the design's cool factor

>>6541774
>>6541775
>>6542343
No-talent POS

I'm playing SIGIL for the first time and boy do I hate Abaddon's Void. What the fuck with all those walk-on activated lifts, John?

>>6544496
There is a really cool submarine section in duke it out in dc.

They actually crammed a pretty convincing submarine in there amazing compared to the little one in the first episode.

>>6544508
Please make sense.

>>6541775
>Maybe 40 years ago
Maybe 23 years ago.

>>6544468
That's true until the audience finds out the smaller cake was directed by Neil Druckman

>>6544681
>caring about who the creator is
ever heard about "death of an author" concept?
Everyone agreees Lovecraft was a massive ass, but people still enjoy the stories
Same for Walt Disney.
And many other people.

>>6544681
You'd know if that was the case because the cake would be covered in shit.

>>6545008
That's not what death of an author is about.

>>6545030
it's very much compareable
interpreting something in the work a certain way because of the author's qualities/ideology/whatever
or refusing to read the work of the author at all for the same reasons, as if they are insparable from their work and thus the work is somehow tainted
it's all notions of the same kind, and inability to separate author and creation only speaks of intellectual immaturity

>>6545057
your arms must hurt from hauling those goalposts. all art is inseparable from the creator, not that it holds no merit because of being made by a certain person with certain beliefs, but your beliefs and thoughts will always color your work.

>>6545132
that's hypocritical and immature outlook
there are really good chances you have enjoyed a work by a secretive kiddie fiddler / holocaust denier / nazi synpathiser and not even know it because you did not care about it enough to do a thorough research when you enjoyed it

>>6545141
you didn't understand my post. i probably have, and in fact i do enjoy lovecraft's work. to say it isn't colored by his blatant racism is the immature outlook.
anyway, lovecraft inspired sandy petersen to make the best doom levels so there's always beauty in the worst of places. :)

>>6545141
>thought crimes are the same as molesting children

>>6545179
>strawmanning

>>6545203
So not only do you not understand death of the author but you don't understand strawmanning either.

>>6540154
Who wants some Wang?

>>6545226
>thought crimes are the same as molesting children
I didn't say that
yet you replied as if I did
that's a strawman
It is you who doesen't know the definition of things

>>6545226
Death of the author is a joke, there are better ways to process the personal actions/beliefs of a content creator in relationship to the works they produce outside of just flat out deciding to interpret the work as if it materialized in a vacuum independent of any human being.

>>6540154
Filtered

>>6544681
thats a tranny way of thinking
if you keep it up you wont be able to enjoy anything
because artists are very often weird/crazy/terrible people/have opinions you disagree with

>>6540154
Shadow Warrior has lost its Wang

>>6545402
Bilinear or trilinear?

>>6545408
HQ2X

>>6543664
Bloodstain has some great and creepy hell levels. One of the late ones is this fleshy cave system with tense music.

>>6543210
Very nice get.

>>6544678
Nah, AR carbines were already getting quite reliable by the 80s and 90s, and full sized subguns like the MP5 only make a lot of sense for either suppressing (also since surpassed), or in the absence of good and reliable carbines.

>>6545256
I agree.

Why is it with every single classic shooter the first episode is by far the most enjoyable and best designed and the rest quickly become samey, bland monster gauntlets?

>>6545436
That's how they get you. You lure them in with the shareware version so they buy it expecting the same.

>>6545436
Outside of Wolfenstein 3D, that's not been my experience.

>>6545436
sharewares, anon
they load all the game's good ideas into the first episode and everything else just sorta falls apart in the remaining ones

>>6545436
what the other gentlemen said

>>6545436
>>6545437
>>6545446
Not usually as malicious as it looks, more often the product of development struggles. For instance, in Doom's case, Romero had effectively unlimited time to make his 8 maps, wrote the editor for it himself, had a decently-explored theme to work with, and could add any features he wanted as he wanted them. Sandy was then tasked with making 19 maps in a matter of weeks, using an unfamiliar editor, and coming up with the very setting as he mapped. Of course episode 1 has a lot more polish to it.

>>6545237

>>6538148
bros I need your help

a few years ago when I used to play doom on ye olde doomsday engine I remember I used to regularly test monster wads on a specific map pack but I can't remember for the life of me what it was.

basically. it was the same map over and over again but each map had nothing but a single enemy type in it. masses of the same enemy in a single room and once you killed them all you moved onto the next map, the next enemy type being in that map, so on and so forth.

anyone remember anything like this? even if its not exactly what I'm talking about, anything similar around?

>>6545057
The way I see it, even you will be judged eventually.

And the measure of how you judged you will be will be how you will be judged.

>>6545492
There are several test maps now that allow you to spawn in enemies of choice via buttons

>>6545436
What's wrong with e2 and e3 of Quake?

>>6545436
I'm presuming fatigue might have to do with it.

>>6545503
thanks mate, any recommendations? this'll do until I find what I'm looking for

>>6545520
Marisa did one that everyone seems to use

>>6545523
got a link?

>>6545526
Scratch that, it was Kinsie, not Marisa
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57221

>>6545539
oh yeah I saw that one before, thanks bro

if you think of anything akin to what I described earlier please post

>>6545539
oh hey I found a similar one.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/phtga

check it out. 32 maps. single enemy type within each map. arena style.