/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6529520
i prefer alpha 3 bcuz of all the options but i do like the simplicity of alpha 2. either way i would much rather just go play sf3 or sf2. alpha doesnt feel as good as it used to in my opinion.

>>6529520
yes

Alpha 2 has this qt, so Alpha 2.

I really dislike Alpha 3's soundtrack but besides that it's a better game.

>>6529520
alpha2 is the only real competition level game, alpha 3 had a lot of broken things about it. I'll play alpha 2 if I am serious, and I'll play alpha 3 if I just want to not care about anything important

>>6529610
valle cc is way way dumber than a3 infinites

>>6529632
valle cc punishes retarded shitters who aren't meter aware for walking forward like massive brainlets, stay fucking bad

>>6529520
The only people who like alpha 3 always turn out to be some kind of gay, so take that as you will.

Alpha 2 is better. Alpha 3 adds too much of everything to varying results. All of the extra characters and isms and its gaudy presentation make it play more like a mugen title than an honest to goodness Street Fighter game.

>>6529610
Both games have pretty dumb shit. With A3 I will say it's more unfortunate since only V-ism really is dumb, A-ism and X-ism are pretty honest.

Call me boring but I think A3 would be an excellent game if it just had exclusively A-ism.

>>6529648
nah i 100% agree with you, almost everything else is better, the presentation, the crazy announcer, the nicer ui and I personally like the bigger roster. however, competitively speaking the isms and the huger roster make it pathetically bad for competition. it is little wonder that the u.s. scene vastly prefered the more "honest" alpha2

>>6529651
It's interesting how people seem to view Alpha as "anime street fighter" when outside of CCs it's pretty straight forward and honest. Looking at A-ism combos in A3 for example there's little that's really bullshit in terms of damage and stun. I think having that straightforward stte of A-ism while refining other mechanics could have made it amazing but as it is A3 is a flawed but interesting game. While I can appreciate both alpha games from a spectatpr point of view I find it hard to invest serious interest in learning them.

Lotta these posts remind me of the discord I hang out in, I highly doubt the one guy who likes a3 would be shit stirring up this nice board tho. a2 is better, free

>>6529520
2 is an actual fighting game
3 is just a giant meme fest

I wish I could have Alpha 2 but with Karin.
I don't much like 3 in general. Mainly all that ism stuff, just give me good, solid base characters.
But I like Karin.

>>6529520
idk man gotta love all of 'em
alpha 2 has that sweet bait where if you pick Akuma you'll start off facing Ken and it's absolutely impossible to beat him he reads inputs like a mofo
Alpha 3 has got to be one of the best sound installments of the whole series
Competitively though alpha 3 is way more refined

>>6529778
>Competitively though alpha 3 is way more refined
lol

>>6529520
i've always prefered SFA2 and i don't know why

>>6529805
shut up, bitch

Alpha 2 is better mechanically and aesthetically. Alpha 3 had a lot of characters, but it was mugen-grade broken, and the music was atrocious, to the point of making me not want to play the game, or disable the music if its on console version.

I wish there was a game with Alpha 2 looks, sounds and music, but with all the Alpha 3 characters.

>>6529586
she's in 3 as well

>>6529845
>posts a pic of valle after defending alpha 3
that's how I know you don't know shit about fighting games, you probably can't do a fireball

https://streamable.com/ycvc08

>>6529716
>2 is an actual fighting game

The entire concept of COMPETITIVE GAMING is a giant meme. Games are meant to be fun, and 3 has more shit that's just damn fun. The whole genre was ruined by a minority of streamers and FGC faggots who bled the very concept of enjoying things for the sake of enjoying them out of industry.

>>6529895
Someone complained about Valle CC earlier, at around 14 seconds the ken player does it and sakura still blocks it because she was not moving forward like a retard. First sign of a shitter is someone complaining about a Valle CC, as this only destroys awful players who have no neutral game.

>OTG
lmao

lol that is one salty a2 cuck

>>6529898
>the competitive FGC began with the modern era and streamers
Your newfag is showing. Sure it was much more niche before, but that was always the core of the fanbase. The main "celebs" are not new guys, they've been around forever.

>>6529895
Seeing a shitload of neutral in that A3 clip, and Akuma gets his CC first and loses.

Alpha 2 because of the music, which is on par with street fighter 2. alpha 3's ost isn't worth the title street fighter

>>6529586
wow! hot a what baabhabhiat

>>6529520
I haven't played 3 in a while buy Alpha 2 was always my favorite. Nicer aesthetic, overall better roster, no "urban" rap soundtrack. No bullshit cheating final boss either.

>>6529893
It's Dhalsim's wife. She's in SFV too.

>Gameplay
Alpha 2 for being more focused. A3 is fun with the options sure, and World Tour mode in the home ports may be the best single player campaign in a fighter, but A2 just felt refined whereas A3 is bloated and unbalanced.
>graphics
While they're both CPS2 games and A3 is really pushing the board to its limits, I still prefer the more consistent look of A2, especially when it comes to menus. A3's menus didn't quite feel like SF, and it's always triggered my autism in how Capcom renamed Z-ism to A-ism for overseas, but they forgot to do the same for X-ism (like calling it T-ism, making the reference to SSF2 TURBO a bit more obvious). Also some of the sprites for the returning SF2 characters is pretty fucking lazy, like Guile and Deejay. They look like barely refined SSF2 sprites with a handful of new animations, and I won't even get started on the added characters for later ports like Eagle and Maki who clearly do not look like they're in a CPS2 game.
>Audio
I'll actually give A3 credit here. The soundtrack may be abrasive but a lot of the songs have a catchy grove to them, and it's hard to not like the meme announcer. By contrast I can barely remember any of A2's music aside from maybe Rose's stage.

So A2 for me.

>>6529520
Alpha 3 because it has Karin in it

>>6529520
Alpha 2 for playing competitively. Alpha 3 for cooperatively in its expanded Dramatic Battle mode. Try not to think of it in terms of being better, but rather different. A3 has great character variety while A2 is just overall feels great to play, sort of like the flow of the original SF2 games.

>>6529893
I meant to say, THIS qt

>>6529771
Sounds more like you're a giant coombrain to me

CAN YOU FIGHTS THE WAY TO GLORY?

>>6530585
>but that was always the core of the fanbase.

Oh piss off. The CORE of any game community was always defined by whatever rules and tone your locals or group of friends decided to set. We didn't have to mold the entire hobby over what some assholes on the internet decided. You could ignore the shiny new games entirely and keep feeding quarters into a decade old machine and you could play with whatever degree of competitive intensity you want. Now the whole FGC is nothing more than a group of prize money seeking shills for whatever crappy new SF or Tekken is being pushed and if you don't like that well too bad because they're the ones who decide what games get played.

>scuffed ST vs proto-anime fighter

hmmm

>>6529902
You can escape that at the 12 second mark. Infinites on dummies that don't go for air recovery are BS.

The one that has both of my boys is better.

SFA2 is better if you're into technical faggotry, but SFA3 is better if you just want fun SF stuff piled 1,000ft high

>muh v-ism
Literally just agree not to use it. Every competition bans certain things. If Smash can ban items you can ban fucking v-ism.

street fighter zero 3

>>6531669
I prefer 2 because of the art work and music lel

>>6531896
Alpha 3 without V-Ism is like a neutered version of Alpha 2 or CvS2. Just play those games instead.

>>6532345
Who are you trying to fool, nobody here is playing anything, we don't play games.

>>6532386
Shit, you got me there.

I adore the Alpha 3 aesthetic and the announcer

Am I the only one who really likes Alpha 3's soundtrack?

>>6532427
It has some nice jams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A51_5i-L7do

>>6532427
Cammy's theme is pretty good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV_x3ERB-2k

>>6532735
>>6533028
Cody's theme is my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpeKzVUz2ls

>>6532345
>CvS2
I would, but it's locked behind a Patreon paywall atm.

>>6533554
NullDC's netplay build is still totally usable without fc2. It'll be out soon(tm) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGcvguMQVyU.. The build has been leaked but as far as I know there is no implementation of nulldc yet but i've seen people in the lobbies so i'm not sure.

>>6533041
It's good but it's no TURN BACK THE BEAT

>>6529520
Alpha 2 soul
Alpha 3 soulless (SF3 era garbage)

>>6533607
TURN THE BEAT BACK

I prefer Alpha 2. 2 has Rose & Sodom, my favorite Alpha newcomers, and no -isms. I don't hate systems where you pick different modes (Grooves in CvS2 for example) but -isms just sucked. Not to suck A2's dick though, I'm generally not a fan of Custom Combo (especially CvS2 A-Groove) even if it's certainly not as bad in A2. I suppose if I ever want to play a more "traditional" Alpha 2 there's the SNES port with the slower pace and no CC I guess. Also something of a technical marvel, that port.

>>6529771
Funny enough, Alpha 3 minus Karin (& -isms) is what I'd prefer. I really don't like her at all; while in all fairness SFV turned all of her negative traits up to 11, I still think she's dull in Alpha 3.

>>6533634
ONE
TWO

>>6533670
>Alpha 3 minus Karin

>>6533675
Karin is just not an interesting character and in fact I find her unlikable at times. As I said, MUCH worse in SFV which isn't the topic, but I didn't miss her before then. I don't hate Oujos in general either, just Karin.

>>6533634
I really like how that sample has become a sort of Final Fight leitmotif over the past decade. Used in Cody's SFIV theme and Haggar's Marvel 3 theme, remixed in Cody's SFV theme. It makes it feel like Cody taking Haggar's office as Mayor of Metro City was something that was inevitable, even though there's no way it was intentional until they actually made his SFV self.

2 because of the roster. 3 added a bunch of needless characters.

>>6529520
You are now aware that Capcom never changed the "Z" screen transition for Alpha 2
You are now aware that the PS1 version of Alpha 3 is only one where the background in Akuma's part of the intro is animated

>>6529586
Not even the best Alpha 2 qt

What was Birdie doing before you fight him here?

>>6532427
No, and I say that as an Alpha 2 fag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD4lI-Os61g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbAkrnV2kmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAjI9atGnnY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6psBidnyXE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTBmXztulyY

I think people who hate A3's music are soifags who get scared of metal.
>>6534041
>I'll you mine if you show me your's

>>6534071
Why does Karin wear her panties on the outside of her spats?

>>6533795
Don't forget Capcom localizing Z-ism to A-ism but not doing the same for X-ism.

>>6534071
Why does Karin wear her panties on the outside of her shorts?

>>6534071
Most of them are barely metal though. It's mostly indus/breakbeat with a few power chords here and there. Look, I like Tekken 3's OST and I jam to arranged soundtracks of Doom, but Alpha 3's OST is pretty average as a whole. EX+@'s where the shit's at.

>>6529520
A3 was the game I learned Street Fighter on back when I started playing in 2005. I will never forget it. I still prefer it over A2.

Which version and optionally which port has the most content if I just want to mash against the easy mode CPU?

>>6536225
PSP

>>6534009
Now that is soul.

>>6529895
>a3 clip
>akuma randomly activates and wastes his meter
>ryu randomly activates and gets punished
Hmm really makes me think. BTW, Akuma doesn't have an infinite in a3, retard.

>>6529904
Nah he just fucked up and started the CC without a low. This is probably from footage from before they knew that valle cc even existed.

>>6529853
A2 had more TOD combos than A3 with LESS roster

>>6529898

The FGC literally had a movie being made, before the master copies for destroyed on 9/11

That was 20 fucking years ago. You're a retard

Nobody ever talks about Alpha 2 gold

>>6537291
Maybe because the arcade version hasn't been localized?

>>6529898
>competitive gaming is a giant meme
>fighting game
I kinda get what you wanted to say but this is so fucking retarded its beyond my brain. FGC was born with the genre itself. You go to the arcade. You watch other big guys fight and watch them go on arcade's best player list. And you grind your skills day n night to be on that list someday. suddenly the tournament got held and thats where all things begin. I feel all those esports personal dramas are nothing but shitfest too, but it doesnt change the core of it.

>>6534009
Fucking nice

>>6537295

Its on the PS1 and Saturn...

>>6538193
Nobody cares about console ports.
t. stupidass FGC

>>6529520
Alpha 3.

Reasons:

- Karin.

For real now, I think both are equally excellent games and the choice mainly depends on your playing style or character preference.

>>6538443
>nobody cares
Period, the game is 30 years old. Do whatever you want, there are no rules.

>>6534009
Just checked it out. It's true, and it happens also with Rose and Sakura, but no with male chars.

What did Capcom mean by this?

>>6537295
Except there's an Asia rom that has localized names in it

reported and saged

Just finished putting cvs2, alpha anthology and anniversary collection on a usb for my ps2 and they run flawlessly. God damn I can't wait for locals.

Alpha 2 best btw

>>6536461
>This is probably from footage from before they knew that valle cc even existed.
was from nlbc circa 2014 to 2018

>>6540541
Damn I can't even read the letters due to the compression. If that's NLBC that Sakura player is probably vicviper the tranny with the furry tail that has horrible neutral in every game it plays. Dude literally cannot stop jumping and getting DPd and still wins due to the stupidity of sakura st.hk and rolling behind this ken and doing lklklkdp.

>>6540387
>cvs2
DAMN fine game

>>6542335
In all honesty, the roster is bland as fuck. SNK's roster feels varied because of KOF rolling AoF & FF into itself already while Capcom's side is aggressively SFII with a small handful of 1/Alpha/3 and then one character each from Final Fight, Darkstalkers, and Rival Schools.

Despite being built around KOF-style 3v3, you can't even make a full team of grapplers. Why the fuck was there no Alex, Hugo, Daimon, Clark, or Maxima? Speaking of Maxima, how the fuck is there not even K' despite him being pushed as the new hotness in KOF from '99 through '01?

>>6542446
They were probably more focused on making the game that people had fantasized about for the previous four of five years rather than for brand awareness' sake. Lack of NESTS characters and Kyo having his old look was still pretty weird though.

>>6540387
>Alpha 2 best btw
*tips fedora*

>>6542446
As someone who came from sf2/alpha2 and never liked sf3 (especially its characters), I love the cast in cvs2.

Also, fuck grapplers lol

>>6529610
Both alpha 2 and 3 are broken. 3 less so.

2 is more fun in some ways but 3 has so many other things going on for it, 3 is overall better. The extra characters alone make it so.

>>6543026
Even its Alpha selection is weak though, just Sakura/Rolento/Dan. No Charlie, no Rose, no Cody or Guy. Also the SFII choices are World Warriors + 4 Kings + Cammy, can't even get Fei or Hawk in there.

On top of that, it's CAPCOM vs SNK but every single character on their side but three are pulled from Street fighter, with Maki & Kyosuke being from SF-adjacent franchises. Couldn't even reuse MvC1 sprites and drop Captain Commando or Jin Saotome in there? SNK's side also has some weird omissions and very few non-KOF picks (Haohmaru/Naokoruru for SamSho, Hibiki for Last Blade, Todoh as a Fatal Fury rep that never had a playable role in KOF). SvC Chaos had a lot of problems but at the very least they had a handful of cool choices from outside of KOF & SF like Mars People, Red Arremer, pre-KOF Athena, and Zero before he was a Vs series staple (and in his MMZ design rather than the X series one). Still, it would've been cool to see SNK throw in World Heroes or something, or more SS/LB reps. Would've been even cooler to translate more of their non-fighting game characters from IPs like Sengoku or Shock Troopers into the genre. At least NG Battle Coliseum added Marco.

>Also, fuck grapplers lol
Fuck you too buddy.

>>6544262
>Todoh as a Fatal Fury rep
Ya goofed.

>>6544272
That I did and now I feel retarded because I actually play Todoh in CvS2.

>>6543279
>3 less so
3 was more broken, it might be fun single player, and it seems most a3 fans only know it this way. never placed never went to locals when it was out. but fyi it led to a drop in the arcade scene along with sf3. the scene back then was strong enough to survive a few more waning years but ultimately it was killed by SF3, its iterations and A3 you ignorant imbecile.

>>6536605
I suspect TOD combos were there, but people just didn't give enough fucks to search for them in A3

>>6529520
a1>a2>a3 custom combos were a mistake

Alpha 2 plays a lot better, but Alpha 3 has the big roster. There is a reason people who say they prefer 3 usually the only thing they point out is the bigger character roster, because is the main draw of Alpha 3, it's close to a MK Trilogy type game, which has its appeal but the gameplay just isn't as good. Keep both games.

>>6529520
Alpha 3 is my favorite console fighting game of all time. So many fun modes and the roster is great. 99% of people I play with cant do infinites anyway.

>>6544442
Infinites are the least of Alpha 3's problems gameplay-wise.

>>6544448
Not for me dude. It's fun, fast and has a ton of variety. I'm not training for a tournament.

>>6544454
I can't find any fun even in casual matches when variety and most options are gimped in favor of rushdown.

>>6544459
Well thank goodness we have so many street fighter games right?

>>6544459
>when variety and most options are gimped in favor of rushdown.
THAT'S WHY IT'S FUN!!! WHY DID THE GUARD CRUSH BAR NEVER COME BACK??? FUCK DEFENSIVE PLAY! IT'S BORING!

>>6544491
Yeah, thank goodness I can still play Zero 2.

>>6544495
Airdashers seem right up your alley.

I've been combing lists people have made ranking the SF games and I've only found on that puts Alpha 2 higher than Alpha 3. All the other ones rank Alpha 3 higher, and some of them don't even rate Alpha 2 as a contender for best SF.

>>6544784
Casual players don't rank Alpha 2 high, because it has less content than other games and less nostalgia than SF2. Gameplay-wise, it's a bit middle-of-the-road while Alpha 3 is controversial.

>>6544784

>>6544784
Casual players don't rank Alpha 2 high, because it has less content than other games and less nostalgia than SF2. Gameplay-wise, it's a bit middle-of-the-road but still closer to SF2 while Alpha 3 is polarizing. I'd rank A2 top3-5.

>play A3 arcade mode
>choose sakura
>the second fight is Akuma with sub boss level strength

>>6545616
>play A3 arcade mode
>first opponent is Sagat
>reset
>first opponent is Dhalsim
>reset
>first opponent is Blanka
>reset

I commend A3 for having anime-style air techs that make air oki a big deal, within an otherwise straightforward and traditional framework/ground game of tried-and-true SF. Very unique. Not really any other game like it.

>>6546519
>air oki
I never could get my head around it in airdashers. Air tech always mean dying faster for me.

>>6546671
In most air dashers air tech is the only thing that saves you from being juggled to death off one hit. A3 though, not teching or delaying your tech is essential to throwing off the timing of their followups, since ground normals can't be air blocked and they will use that to blow you up for teching at the most predictable interval. Lot of dangerous confirms into V-ism combos start this way, so tech or don't tech becomes sink or swim.