/vr/ - Retro Games

Better than Shit-Life.

>>6515262
rent free

>>6515273
your shitty game will never be a classic fps.

>>6515275
>"If I keeps saying it in every thread it might come true"

The real question is: how could it fail?

>>6515253
Lots of neat ideas, but they ran out of time and money

>>6515253
Average FPS, took too long, overbudget, and JR being himself

>>6515253
Romero still isn't over this game. Which I find pretty hilarious.

>>6515253
It's okay with the 1.3 fan patch and companions disabled but that came out at least a decade later and means you have to disable one of the selling points of the game.

>>6515320
Example?

>>6515253
Over ambitious

Anyone here actually play it though?

>>6515262

>>6515253
With a wide arsenal and ambitious marketing, Daikatana was truly ahead of its time.

bland quake clone

>>6515337
>The companions were ok it was just an experts made fps

>>6515253
It was really bad then when you expected more from the guy who helped make Doom. That and the engine was dated with the unreal engine and Idtech 3 being out with Daikatana running on Idtech 2.
Playing it with the patch in 2020 was more tolerable. The AI is still bad and the first chapter is shit, but the rest of the game has some unique ideas that could have been executed better.

yes apparently its not so bad in the later levels but you have to play through about 2 hours of shit to get to the not bad parts

>>6515253
I played most of it and it was ok, retards just like to meme it as bad because "iz kool to be internetz".
Most of it bcause my version would crash at a certain point, played it before being faced with the meme that it is made to be nowadays.
Either enjoy it or not, doesn't matter what people think.

It's not the worst game of all time, hell, I'd even recommend trying it at least once. Just know that the partner AI sucks major ass, and once they're introduced, you're going to have a bad time if you're not playing with the "fan patch"

>>6515331
>>6515841
>>6517084
Thanks for the feedback.
I got and installed the patch.
Wish me luck.

>>6515320
>>6515337
Daikatana was supposed to be the Quake game that he never got about a time traveling badass with a magic weapon based off his old DnD character or some shit.
Also it was his first outing without Carmack and he probably wanted to prove himself and instead flopped. It's easy to imagine he'd still have a few nightmares with this smug genius looking down on him lol

>>6518262
>Daikatana was supposed to be the Quake game that he never got about a time traveling badass with a magic weapon based off his old DnD character or some shit.
so basically the original concept for quake?

>>6518401
Yeah thats what I meant. and now his special snowflake chatacter that he probably cares about in that special way that only DnD nerds can. Is now the main character of a bad meme game.

>>6515253
I'd like to know too. I watched some review where some zoomer shithead was bitching non-stop about it, so I figured it was good, but then I'm noticing other people saying the same thing.

>>6519124
Get the unofficial 1.3 patch. It fixes most of the legitimate issues with the game.

>>6519124
Those are zoomer shitheads as well

>>6515331
>>6520421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW65wZOtPyA

reported and saged 4

>>6518262
Not like Carmack's solo efforts were any good either, Doom 3 felt way off and RAGE was a tech demo that only exemplified the flaws of idtech5.

>>6515253

Yes.
Although episodes 3 and 4 (medieval and LA) are actually kinda fun if you disable companions. But the first episode is horrible no matter what, and the second is just dull.

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever

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>>6522237
Calm down John, we still respect you.

Some jabroni is going to reply to this deleted comment

I wish John Romero would make me his bitch

>>6521479
I’ve never really thought about it like that, but it’s definitely true. Was it some cliche sitcom thing where they balanced each other out, or was Id just in the right place at the right time in the 90s and everyone moved on?

>released in 2000
Come the fuck on

>>6524478
rules only state the the platforms be 1999 or earlier, not the games themselves
you can run daikatana easily on 1999 hardware

>>6524478
-- oh, not to mention it's also available on N64

>>6524467
A bit of A a bit of B.

>>6521479
>Doom 3 felt way off and RAGE was a tech demo
Those are both Tim Willits games. Carmack only directed Quake 3.

Daikatana came out during a period where a bunch of other novel FPSs (Thief, SS2,Serious Sam) were flying blind and still turned out great, which makes it's low quality much worse by comparison.

huh?

I tried to give it a chance, but the first level got me filtered. Shitty guns, everything is noisy, everything is GREEN. The voice acting is great though, the guy who voiced Lo Wang is voicing yet another Asian dude, and the main character sounds like JC Denton. I honestly though the main character's voice actor was JC Denton's voice actor considering Ion Storm developed both Daikatana and Deus Ex, but it's a different guy. Crazy how one of the most infamous first person shooters and one of the most praised first person shooters both come from the same company.

>>6520746
based civvie sounds like a 30 yr old boomer, has the hindsight to give fair reviews, and enough skill to not get filtered and rage.
I don't like mentioning him too much on this site because of the stigma about youtubers, but I too am a 31 yr old boomer and love retro fps. His channel inspired me to finally start seriously playing some of the old ID game I got on steam in a bundle that was on sale like 10 years ago.

>>6525364
that moron got filtered by serious sam on NORMAL kek

>>6525364
shut the fuck up with the -oomer shit you eceleb worshipping faggot

>>6525256
The running theory is that Ion Storm's two studios were actually a good and evil half. Deus Ex was only possible because of all the pure awful concentrated into another title.

>>6527835
Similar thing also happened with Deus Ex: Invisible War aka Deus Ex 2 and Thief: Deadly Shadows aka Thief 3. Not that Thief 3 is a mindblowing game, but it's a worthy addition to Thief trilogy, while as IW was the game that turned many young gamers into old bitter men and literally killed Deus Ex for almost ten years. Imagine owning a game studio that is known for some of the best games ever made and also some of the worst games ever made. Though in my honest opinion, I don't thinkg Invisible War is terrible by its own merits.

>>6515423
Half-life does kinda suck, though.

>>6524467

Carmack is all hyperintelligence and raw ability with no personality, Romero is all personality and no ability. So yeah, I'd say they balanced each other. Romero had a good idea of what people wanted and Carmack could build it.

>>6527945
Romero had a lot of ability on his early days. He was as much as a tech genius as Carmack. But he lost it when he became famous.

>>6515253
Daikatana is an expert level FPS. It's designed to be for experts, even at the lowest difficulties. The problem is you have far too many people who played and reviewed it who really had no business playing it with their skill level. It is in no way a bad game, just completely misunderstood

>>6515253
>"Some of the AI in the sidekicks was flawed but if you took the time to learn how they work and react, then they're great. Daikatana is not a bad game, it just became a victim of hype. How could it have lived up to the hype, to Doom and Quake? I wanted to make an FPS for FPS experts and maybe we could've not thrown tiny flying enemies at the player in the first level but that was misunderstood by reviewers who didn't give the game a chance."
-John Romero, 2009

>>6515315
that last point can't be emphasized enough

>>6515841
... nobody in Id did shit beside carmack. everyone and their mom can make a labrinth.

>>6521479
Both of those are not solo efforts, and the parts that carmack did were amazing. I think carmack is a douche but still can't deny that homeboy did shit right

>>6524569
and Q3 will never be beaten, its not possible

>>6527876
true

>>6528003
I don't think it works like that, but go on

>>6528005
>expert level FPS
thats some randy pitchford shit right there