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Did platformers, beat em ups, and shmups "ruin" video games? Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:20:40 2020 No.6513240 [Reply] [Original]

Don't get me wrong, I love those genres, but think about games from 1979-1984. There weren't any "genres", besides maybe "Space Invaders clone" and a few Pac-Man-likes. There were a lot of unique concepts, like a game where you're a bubble collecting dirt and grime, a game where you were a mouse collecting stolen items and microwaving cats, a game where you fit falling tetronimoes into lines, a game where you try to create molecules, a game inside of a nuclear reactor, a game where you play Bumper Balls from Mario Party in space, a game where you Qix, whatever the fuck Pepper II is supposed to represent, etc etc etc. Once there were "genres" you could just take an existing concept and swap out the graphics and sound, you didn't need to come up with a completely new and unique idea anymore.
Some genres were less susceptible to this though, with the single-screen platformer (comic platformers?) you had to have a somewhat unique idea, no one just straight-up copied Bubble Bobble

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:27:26 2020 No.6513253 >>6513240 Did mammals, reptiles, and amphibians "ruin" animal life? Retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:28:48 2020 No.6513258 >>6513253 that analogy's retarded

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:30:23 2020 No.6513259 >>6513240 it's kinda true, old arcade games were weird as shit >no one just straight-up copied Bubble Bobble I don't know man they're all pretty much "bubble bobble but you stun monsters with something else"

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Anonymous Fri Jun 12 01:29:00 2020 No.6513675
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>>6513240
"Ruin" is an overstatement but they definitely curtailed innovation and diversity

>>6513253
As a woke zoomennial you have no choice but to accept, nay proselytize, that cis gender mammals have ruined everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 01:36:48 2020 No.6513683 >>6513240 No, RPGs and people that like them ruined videogames and killed the Arcade.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 03:55:15 2020 No.6513923 No, genres are the natural consequence of a very good and healthy thing - games iterating on their predecessors, using the solid fundamentals and building on top of them by adding various distinguishing gimmicks. Novelty does not a good game make.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 04:01:15 2020 No.6513937 File: 27 KB, 171x301, wh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No, but FPS have ruined modern gaming.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 04:15:41 2020 No.6513971 I see what you mean. Even within those genres itself it sucked that for example every beat'em up tried to copy Final Fight instead of doing something different.

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Anonymous Fri Jun 12 09:23:55 2020 No.6514415

No, this sort of creativity inevitably runs dry. I mean just look at the PS2 era VS current gen/next gen. Games like Katamari Damacy or even Shadow of the Colossus just don"t get made anymore, except from the occasional quality indie. Did you watch that PS5 event, my dude? Literal fucking garbage. They opened with the fact that they are re-releasing GTA V on PS5. That was supposed to be a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 13:32:12 2020 No.6514845 >>6513240 What are the molecule creation and nuclear reactor games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 13:44:08 2020 No.6514870 >>6514845 Phozon by Namco and Reactor by Gottlieb

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 14:24:43 2020 No.6514918 >>6513937 Actually it's Shit-Life's fault, every single FPS before that was great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:26:21 2020 No.6515105 >>6514918 FPSs are snorefests.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:44:41 2020 No.6515162 >>6515105 underage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 19:07:48 2020 No.6515726 >>6514870 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 04:05:52 2020 No.6516617 File: 791 KB, 1600x1200, 1371377472115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6515162 yes FPS are clearly for the underage

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 04:06:57 2020 No.6516621 FPS did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:01:36 2020 No.6518925 File: 388 KB, 1520x1868, DWterminator strikes again, HL1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6514918 nice try dwterminator

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:10:09 2020 No.6518948 >>6518925 >Only one person on Earth hates linear snorefests with shit gunplay

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:10:52 2020 No.6518950 >>6518948 i thought we were talking about half-life, not goldeneye?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:14:13 2020 No.6518960 >>6513240 Yes. Platformers, beat em ups, and shmups are the definition of bugmen gaming.

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Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:27:51 2020 No.6518980
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>>6513240
I think I was way more into the idea of games with muscle dudes going through the jungle with a gun and a mission, rather than all the bizarre esoteric stuff that plagued my childhood Commodore 64, but now I’m more drawn to games that strive to go beyond the scope of the technology in interesting ways. I don’t think those games you talk about ever went away. There’s always been weirdo games.