/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6499120
>edge

>>6499120
I always liked that about the series, particularly since the Classic games kept rolling along side the darker games for the most part

>>6499139
Even though MM series all take place in the same universe, they are so far apart that you can go right on pretending nothing else happened.

>>6499138
> BAWWW! Why do I gotta keep fursecuting the robot animal guys.
> Oh noes, a copy of X is killing all the reploids
> Oh no, we're all reploid now and maverick-chan is making us all crazy and X is ded for good

>>6499149
More serious =/= >edge
Protoman is >edgier than almost any X, ZX, Zero series character

>>6499120
I think it's really interesting personally. If you play the games in canonical order (MM1-11, MMX-5, MMZ-4, MMZX1-2), you can see the degredation of the world, and how Dr. Wily and Light are to blame for almost all of it.
If Dr. Wily never had a victim complex with Light, he would have never stolen the first Robot Masters, and Mega Man would have never existed. By extension, the reason why Light created X, was so X could continue fighting "for humanity" after he died, which was an idea stolen from Wily, who created Zero, so Zero could go on and destroy Mega Man and Light, as Wily was beginning to die. If Wily never implemented the Maverick Virus inside of Zero, in order to allow him to kill Light, then Zero would have never caused the Maverick Virus to spread. The Maverick Virus continued to spread, only because of the implementation of Reploids, made by Dr. Cain and copied off of X.
The entire Z series is just the continued destruction of the world because of the feud between true robotic sentience, and humanity, which ultimately caused the Elf Wars to happen in the first place.
The Maverick Virus essentially imbues Reploids with true intelligence and sentience, which causes them to rebel against their human overlords due to slavery pretty much.
The story evolves from "bad guy doing bad stuff" to "Is it truly evil for the Reploids to rebel, and is it truly evil for humanity to try and stomp out the resistance due to the chaos it's causing?".
------> >>6499167
Also Bass

>>6499120
I liked that serious tone, though. Too bad they tried to tell a plot in such an awful way.
>Robots are becoming more advanced and intelligent.
>But now they are rebelling.
>It was Sigma going full Unabomber.
>But it was Waawee all along.
>And Sigma's back.
>And he's moving the strings as a program? As bots with his memory downloaded?
>Then Dr. Doppler, but it's Sigma again.
>But it's all Zero's fault, being Wily's creation. And Sigma's here.
>Then Sieg Sigma, with colony drop and all.
>And Dr. Light is still around pulling a 2pac, but only to hand down upgrades.
The thing is, with the simpler setting of the original series Capcom could make sequel after sequel because the main drag was the gameplay and that felt fresh with each new game, despite following a formula.
The X games were poorly handed because they bit more than they could chew with a story so spread out.

>>6499149
>BAWWW! Why do I gotta keep fursecuting the robot animal guys.
Because he's a cop and that's literally his job.

X's whole "bawww why must I fight" schtick is such nonsense. Like bruh you know you can just quit being a Maverick hunter right?

>>6499351
I mean, he can't just stop being a Maverick Hunter, because he's forced to. The only reason why he's a Maverick Hunter is literally because he's not allowed to have any other job, retard

>>6499351
>Like bruh you know you can just quit being a Maverick hunter right?
He kinda did in X7, moving to a desk job.
The hunters were essentially crippled as a result, which led to Red Alert gaining traction.

>>6499343
Best post

>>6499120
It’s a spin-off, one possible future self contained while also being sequel

>>6499120
Am I a joke to you?

>>6499120
at least it was a spin-off, unlike the sonic series

>>6499909

>>6499120
Were those green borders a developer fuck-up? I thought I had a bad ROM, but I guess that's just how it is.

>bright and shiny happy world

>>6500243
The SNES/PS1 era of Classic Mega Man games tried to be just as edgy and dark as the MMX series. It didn't work and so MM9 went back to bright and shiny.

>>6500243
>>6500479
>edgy
7 is as classic as it gets.
8 feels even more kiddy, almost Lego-ish.

>>6500479
Outside of the ending, 7 really isn't that edgy (and english versions made said ending even edgier).
Heck, Spring Man's stage got a complete aesthetic overhaul to make it less edgy.
8 isn't edgy at all from what I remember.

>>6499343
>X, get me out of this wack ass capsule

>>6502091
7 introduced Bass, the Shadow the Hedgehog of megaman. He says Damn in Shade Man's stage and Mega man threatens to kill Wily. It is the edgiest installment of the classic series.

>>6504135
Sounds pretty bassed to me though

>>6499343
>The X games were poorly handed because they bit more than they could chew with a story so spread out.
In terms of story, yeah. The whole "robots becoming part of society" thing wouldn't feel as wasted if they committed to that story idea and gave us new, morally complex or at least interesting antagonists, rather than having it be Sigma and a virus that turns robots bad everytime.

>>6504135
This and not eveb mentioning the ending
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAvnq_7LKbo

>>6499343
Ironically, X8 (after the series was far from his prime), made a decent attempt with all the new mavericks and sigma stopping being the big bad

>>6505938

The 90's were an edgy time.

>>6504135
>bass
>not based
>citing the burger version.
in japan wileys statement actually works.

>>6504135
Bass is badass, and in any game he appears he is by far the best character to use, although in MM10 it isn't quite fair because Rock is gimped in that one (and in MM9).
>autofire
>shoot in any direction
>dash
>dash and jump for added momentum
>treble boost
He's a lot of fun.

>>6504135
Bass predates Shadow the Hedgehog and is the coolest classic character. Cope

>>6499909
Comfiest era

>first game with an intro has Wily's robots bombing the whole world and Megaman converting himself into a battle machine

SHINY
HAPPY
WORLD

>>6507448
No one died though

>>6507473
You can literally see the lights in the towers being bombed

>>6507505
Yeah but do you see any damage from the bombs? Maybe they're just concussive with a low overall force. Death isn't part of the classic series. I'd post the quote but you'd just attack the fact it came from Inafune instead of the substance of it

>>6502289
and for the record inafune hated that out of place ending and Super Adventure Rockman

>>6500479
8 still feels like a saturday morning cartoon for me.
>A meteorite fell on an island.
>It has a strange energy reading.
>DARK ENERGY.
>Hero from outer space comes too, representing justice.
The edgiest thing in that game is having two Robot Masters inspired by weapons and a third one with a military motif.
At least it's not "I dropped Sky Lagoon over a city, so Zero-dono notices me" kind of edgy.

>>6508074
The whole thing Wily using his own evil to turn the evil energy into a world-ending threat sounds a lot more tryhard than his past mostly-petty schemes like impersonating a rich guy and hosting a tournament. And then there's the whole thing with Mega Man getting corrupted by it and nearly dying until POWER OF JUSTICE saves him.

And King in MM&Bass is essentially a proto-Sigma with him trying to rally all the robots into overthrowing the human race because of their superiority, even if Wily was jerking him along. At least he figured out why he was losing and got something of a redemption out of it.

>>6507376

You gotta admit, he is pretty edgy.

>>6508269
Is this supposed to be the Treble Adapter?

>>6499353
>The only reason why he's a Maverick Hunter is literally because he's not allowed to have any other job

[Citation needed]

Reploids can have any job they want. Maverick hunters choose to be Maverick hunters.

>>6508396
In the prologue of Zero 4, it is stated, very clearly, that "The humans forced them to fight eachother", referencing the Maverick Hunters and Mavericks.
Also not to mention the "I don't want to fight" schtick X has. Do you think he would still be a Maverick Hunter in X2 if he wanted to keep fighting? Hell no
If X wasn't forced to be a Maverick Hunter, he wouldn't be one. He was built for combat, and was told his purpose his entire existence was to kill Mavericks, and he continue that job because he's forced to, not because he genuinely wants to.

>>6506313
I give X8 and to a lesser degree X4 props for trying to tell an interesting story from that point of view.
Too bad neither goes anywhere.

>>6508327
Yeah, his normal form is no edgier than a robot master.

>>6499120
It follows the format of anime shows, the more lighthearted original series that gets an edgy revival/sequel 20 years later to appeal to the kids that grew up watching the original. You know, like Casshern, or Getter Robo.

>>6508627
He's just a "reluctant hero" like hiroshi shiba or takashi hongo, hardly a rare trope to show up in jp hero stories.

>>6499120
Did you forget that at the end of MM7 Mega Man almost killed Dr. Wily.