/vr/ - Retro Games

>>6507064
Cool shit. I will try this.

Will this work on the PS Classic if I'm using Retroboot?

>>6507064
Some cool japanese exclusive ps1 titles for reference
One title I'm curious about is Hungry Ghosts on ps2 (yeah not retro etc) which is like a weirder King's field from the creator of ghosts n goblins

Is it google translated?

>>6507074
I want to play DR Slump just for the art style

>>6507079
yeah
https://ztranslate.net/docs/faq
https://gitlab.com/spherebeaker/vgtranslate

>ztranslate.net server does an API call to Google to OCR the text and another to translate the text. This costs about $1.50 per 1,000 calls. So, to source a game that needs 10,000 screenshots would cost about $30. The quota system is there to limit the total number of these API calls so I don't go broke.

what's interesting is it seems like it can handle text modifications meaning fan translators could fix the translations and the software would display the text in that type of black box over the game, instead of all the headaches of having to tinker with game files and inject the translations within...?

>How do I make a translation myself?
>There are two steps to making a translation: sourcing the images, and fixing the translations. To source images, first log into ztranslate.net, go to the settings link and copy the API key given. In your ZTranlate client folder, edit the config.json file and paste the API key into the value of the user_api_key field. Now, run the ZTranslate client in the background and do not load a package. When you press "~", it will grab a screenshot of the window in focus, send the image to the ztranslate.net server and display an automatic translation (this may take a few seconds). Do this for all the visible text in the game, or as much as you can handle.

a game like mizzurna falls which has been translated ages ago but is still unreleased because adding it into the game requires insane file hacks, could maybe be easily fixed with this type of thing?

>>6507097
>Why not just modify the executables with the translation instead?

>There are a few reasons for this approach. The first is accessibility. Allowing translators to avoid having to do hex editing, and adding helpful functionality (like suggested machine translations, and a contextual screenshot) makes the translation process a lot faster. Second, the approach can do things simple hex editing can't do, like translate text stored in an image, add translated subtitles for audio, and give translations for games that can't be hex edited at all (for example, many console games).

>Besides that, hex editing can be difficult if the game uses strange compression or encodings for the strings, or it may be difficult to change the length of the translated string inside the .exe (for example, how do you translate "Pilz" into "Mushroom" if you can only use 4 characters?).

Like everything with "AI" and "neural networks", this will go exactly nowhere.

>>6507116
jelly cuckdev detected

>>6507117
This same thing was "discovered" a few months ago, and we don't see it anywhere, because it sucks. There's probably a thread on /vr/ from 6 months ago, too.

>>6507102
>The first is accessibility. Allowing translators to avoid having to do hex editing
"We don't know how to do shit, machine translations are ok".

>>6507064
I beat Devilman without moonspeaking, it's not a problem

But cool.

Why can't you simply learn Japanese?

>>6507097
>a game like mizzurna falls which has been translated ages ago but is still unreleased
;^)

>>6507064
Brightis works ?

>>6507074
Sexy parodius is best parodius.

>>6507219
Cringe. That sounds like the biggest waste of time. If I was going to learn an Asian language I'd learn Chinese which is actually useful. But even that would be a waste of time.

>>6507074
where is Community Pom in that list? ¬¬#

>>6507074
FIX THAT LIST PRONTO!
Community Pom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7OVZ2R-A64

>>6507774
It's missing a lot of great games.

>>6507064
It doesn't work well with many games, let along work with all games. It's a very basic "system" that's basically just a wrapper for good translate with a little glue. Potentially it could work very well but it needs a massive amount of work to get there.

>>6507064
It's great, I've been playing a bunch of PC-FX games. Takes a few minutes to set up. Only complaints I have are that it's hard to pause with auto-scrolling text in some games, the engrish common with machine translation, and in the Android version the hotkey I set gets deleted every time I close a game. Maybe they fixed that last one in a recent update though.

>>6507071
Personally I've never tried it on my PS Classic but if you have a wifi USB adapter connected it should work.

>>6507774
Good soundtrack, I can hear influence from other tracks in it.

>>6507064

Neat idea. Should be useful for quick menu translations and stuff.

If this makes fan translations easier then I'm all for it. I speak enough Japanese to translate games with limited amounts of text but I don't have the technical skills to actually patch the games.

Honestly, the level of translation is so bad it's only useful for simple sentences like RE-style puzzles, JRPG menus and the like. But you can learn Japanese to that level in a few days/weeks anyway.
I guess it will help some lazier people?

We are absolutely headed towards a future where this will be a thing. Hell most of the tech already exists. OCR exists, Text-to-speech exists, machine translation exists... it's only a matter of putting it all together and perfecting it. It's not too far off. Whether or not you'll see this concept's full potential realized as part of a project such as RetroArch is another question.

>>6507064
Played with it. It's pretty much on the same level as ManaSword's RS3 translation if you know what I am referring to. It also sometimes has issues detecting text on transparent backgrounds.

>>6509070
how does it handle a full page full of text like a rpg menu?

>>6508910
True, but it can be improved. I've used a similar system that's much more mature and advanced and it's amazing. Unfortunately out of the price range for the average emufag but there's no reason all the features couldn't eventually be added to something open source.

>>6509107
>I've used a similar system that's much more mature and advanced and it's amazing.
What is this mythical system?

>>6509110
It's called the Mythical System. Not the Mythical Master System, as many people mistakenly call it.

>>6507084
Just do it man, it's fun.

>>6507779
legend of loli looks super interesting

>>6508316
The technical part is the difficult part, so most likely nothing will change.

>>6507941
>if you have a wifi USB adapter connected it should work.
I was hoping it would be something I could just install to the console

>>6507064
Could I play Racing Lagoon with this?

>>6510491
it uses an external translation service

>>6510881
I search a bit and it seems the real useful translation requieres a pay wall service

>>6511439
It's a free service, the fuck are you talking about?

>>6511460

>>6511671
Explain

>>6509473
underrated post

>>6507064
Finally I can beat/read Black Matrix on Saturn.

>>6511460
https://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-1-7-8-ai-service-how-to-set-it-up/

Go to the Google Cloud Platform Console Manage billing accounts page and sign in or, if you don’t already have an account, sign up.
Click the Create account button.
Enter the name of the billing account, then click Continue. Note that if you see an Organization drop-down, then you must also select an Organization before you can continue.
You might be prompted to select your country. The choice will affect the payment options you have in the next step. The currency for your billing account is based on the country you select.
Choose the payments profile that will be associated with this billing account. You can choose an existing payments profile, or create a new payments profile. If you choose to create, follow the instructions on the screen to set up your payments profile.
Set your Account type as individual

>>6511676
6:00 the one that works like charm cost $6 per month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJvbxurnzPg

>>6507764
>learning a new language
>waste of time

>>6512196
>t. americlap who only knows bastardized English

>>6512196
oh my god it really is

can anyone try it and report back with screencaps for games like brightis

>>6512259
why do people just randomly bring up america when no one even mentions anything related to them? a bit cringe.

>>6512395
retard

>>6511676
>Explain
When someone is retarded and says something stupid it's customary to call attention to their stupidity.

>>6507064
Cool stuff.

This feature is nice, but it shows how we've been too lazy and relying on big mega corps to do translation work. we need open source translation services. Right now you need an internet connection for this to work. What should happen is you download Translator Core and then Language Pack and then you're done.

>>6512395
Most people in Europe and third world is at least intermediate at a second language, only americans thinks they are too good for that or that it makes them "less patriotic".

>>6512395
they mad

>>6507097
>a game like mizzurna falls which has been translated ages ago but is still unreleased because adding it into the game requires insane file hacks, could maybe be easily fixed with this type of thing?

So we have "achievements" in games right? So how about a middle ground that uses the same kind of tech? We have the translated text pop up in the emulator overlay rather than being hacked into the game directly?

>>6507064
>he is interested in japanese games but hasn't put effort into learning japanese
Cringe

>>6507774
>where is Community Pom in that list? ¬¬#

Nice to see another Pommer. If you really like the series, buy one of the two guidebooks and scan them. There's almost no information on this game out there.

>>6511439
>>6512086
so how much does it actually cost because I cant find that info anywhere and I'm not giving credit info withought knowing all the details

>>6507064
Bros....... I just spent the last year and a half learning japanese to play JRPGs......

>>6513186
The thread said it's jewgle translate so if the bombs fall you'd not get it translated anyway. It's shit. Also, only stand alone emulators were ever good. Fuck this monopoly cultism.

I'm tempted to filter shit like higan and retroarch and mednafen. Mednafen is okay I guess though. But not retroarch. People that like retroarch secretly hate real computers and introverts, the actual dweebs that need video games. That's why shit like lakka needs network access to paste the psx bios in, for example, or why it's impossible nearly to install lots of stuff from the tar. Communist cultists.

>>6512716
This.

>>6512259
Was this meant for >>6507764 fag?

>>6510491
>installing things
That's now how zoome-rware works. Why do you think people say 'new bad'? You have no power. They pay for monthly access and own not even their cars. They are owned themselves by capitalism, people are.

>>6511676
You have to pay every single month for internet access. It's not yours. You're renting it.

>>6513290
ye

>>6507764
don't learn chinese
if you learn chinese, you will inevitably have to deal with the chinese, and you do not want to deal with the chinese, seriously

>>6514152
this desu

I still don't understand why nobody talked about this and now I see mentions of it everywhere.
Not that I'm complaining though, it's a good game.

>>6514152
>i didn't learn chinese. i inevitably had to deal with the chinese. i do not want to deal with the chinese, seriously. they never say yes when i ask if they want fries with that.

>>6514325
pretty nice projection you have there

>>6514332
>you nailed it
I know

>>6514152
I learn Chinese so I can play Taiwanese retro games, read comics and books from Hong Kong, watch Taiwanese puppets and comprehend instruction manuals.
Might even travel to Taiwan one day.
After learning Japanese, Chinese isn't that far out.

>>6514686
>Taiwanese retro games

they exist?

>read comics and books from Hong Kong,

Make sure to scan the plz.

>>6514689
Where do you think Mario 5 to 63 where made?
Dendy wasn't a Russian development either, it originally came from Taiwan.

>>6513151
6:00 the one that works like charm cost $6 to $10 per month
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJvbxurnzPg [Embed]

>>6509671
such a great gif ruined by such a faggoty zoom zoom meme

reported and saged just according to keikaku

>>6518609
Such is life.

>>6507116
This nigga hasn't seen the RE2 and 3 upres project I take it.

>>6512716
>>6513224
>only americans thinks they are too good for that or that it makes them "less patriotic".
Do people ironically believe this? In America the majority of the time there is 0 practical use for learning another language besides Spanish. Even Spanish is debatable because anyone who comes in here pretty much has to learn English anyways. You can take German, French, whatever you want in school. However, you'll forget all of it within a few years of taking the classes because there is never a period where you will actually use it unless you're consuming their media constantly which is rare and is only seen for things like Japanese.

As opposed to being in Europe where the next country over (the size of a state in the US) you have people who largely speak a completely different language. You also have Eastern European countries which speak Russian and their native language. I suspect a large amount of countries in Europe that normally speak something like Swedish, Germany, French, Finnish, Estonian, Welsh, etc also speak English because most of the internet and tech is built on it.

>>6507764
Learning almost any language isn't a waste of time

>>6520354
not him, but it's not just america, i think it's more about who you border
in europe, you have lots of countries with lots of languages, it's easy to visit places with another language
where i live, NZ, nobody learns a second language, because we're not close to anywhere that speaks something else, you'd have to go very far out of your way and fly for 5+ hours to get somewhere that speaks something else

reported and saged 1

reported and saged let me bump off my last remaining comment on this website and then I will stop posting forever

>>6507064
neato. what are y'alll going to play first with this?

Tried it, but the game wasn't fun, otherwise there'd be a translation by now.

how do i h4x my mini consoles to do this?

>>6521302
I thought they taught Maori in NZ.

>>6524721
only a brief introduction, you don't need to learn it proper if you don't want to, and there's very little use for it. you'd struggle if you only knew maori, it's that uncommon

>>6513202
>I'm tempted to filter shit like higan and retroarch and mednafen
Please do, we have enough dumb posts in our threads as it is. Leave.
>only stand alone emulators were ever good
Holy cringe.

>>6509096
a big fat black box will be put on top of it with all the translated text. Usually, it works fine, although there could be some issues, especially in games with a low-res font, like FC and SFC games.

>>6511671
ztranslate is free, dumbass

>>6520354
honestly, in Europe you just need to know English, that's it. For instance, I learned French in school but everytime I was in France, they preferred talking in English. Only in Eastern European countries people fail to understand English (although most understand Russian there, so even learning their native language would be superfluous).

huh?

>>6524823
But ztranslate doesn't translate anything dumbass. They use a 3rd party service.
18+

>>6524841
Bullshit. I have been to these countries and no country in the world is as buttblasted about English as France. They would rather talk to you in swahili than in english because they despise it. Italiabs are too retarded to know english in general as are the poles and Slovaks.

Balkan countries speak English very well generally. Especially younger people

>>6507097
Oh so I can just keep using the google translate app, okay thanks anon.