/vr/ - Retro Games

The fact that anyone could hate on a Microprose game is beyond me.

>>649175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcqrjcQYo8E

YOSHI'S STORY

Easily the best console FPS I've ever played

Nobody talks about it here
;_;

Sonic & Knuckles.

It always just gets lumped in with Sonic 3, but S&K really stands out to me with its music, platforming, and pacing of difficulty.

>>649282
and cover art that isn't atrocious, unlike most Sonic games

>>649249
>doubting

There's a PC Port for it.

>>649175
Kirby 64 is the only Kirby game I ever liked.

>the absolute pinnacle of the franchise in terms of storytelling and character development
>the best,most fanservicey unlockables ever that make you feel like a kid locked in a toy store overnight
>humorous little developers' commentaries on fucking every single thing you unlock that inject so much love into the game
>dat muzax

I love Deadly Alliance so much I'd fuck it.

I have two copies.

>inb4 playan fightan for storyline lol

>>649381
>2002/3
Yeah nah, fuck off.

>>649258
It was the only one in the series, right?

>>649430
Shit, my bad.

>>649282
It always gets lumped in because it is literally one half of an otherwise whole game

Turok 3. Although it's starting to get more attention now, after rotting in obscurity for over a decade.

>>649237

You totally hit the thread! I really love yoshi's story but who prefers it to smw2??

Wonderful game. I spent so much time examining every nook and cranny available to it. Predates GTA 3 by a long shot and so many good ideas. A blast to play.

One of the former devs developed a sequel to School Daze (An old Spectrum game) but faded into obscurity afterwards. Tried for ages to get the fucker working on my computer (It was made in Blitz Basic).

>>649782

Yeah Yoshi's Island is the best Yoshi game, but Yoshi's Story gets so much unfair shit just for not being like YI. It's meant to be a different kind of game... we had a thread about it some weeks ago, it was good... many of us agreed the game is actually pretty good, but you must play the trial mode and unlock all 24 or so levels in order to actually be able to judge the game.
Playing the story mode (which only serves as a kind of "choose your own adventure" with only 6 levels in total... 6 levels, out of 24! which you unlock by playing the story mode).
And also the game has a lot more exploration and collectathon nature, much more prominent than in YI.

>>650039
I too prefer yoshi story to yoshis island, although to be fair I love them both dearly.

>>649282
I just played this recently for the first time and I have some questions about S&K played with S3

Do I need to get all 7 emeralds before I get to Mushroom Hill in order to get all the super emeralds?
Is there any real difference between super sonic/knuckles and "ultra" sonic or whatever (7 emeralds vs 14)?

I only really played Sonic 2, if you have some neat stuff to mention that's cool too

>>649175
I just picked this up yesterday for $15.

Just trying out different copy combinations is fun as fuck. What's the best one?


So far I like the flame sword and the fridge full of food

>>650039
how the fuck do you unlock the other levels? I only have a portion of each chapter.

>>650119
They are unbalanced as fuck, but I used stone+bomb or stone+electricity because they were awesome. I love how the shurikens stun the enemy for a split second before blowing them up.

Dead serious.

Come at me bro

>>650136
Get the hearts.

>>650119
my personal favorites are:
Rock+Cutter - what you get is random. just keep retrying until you get the tiny bird its awesome
Rock+bomb - dynamite (protip: hold down to put on a hard hat so you don't get hurt by the explosion.)

this was the first game I ever beat 100%. but even now I still have no idea what to do in that dark room with the switches... and the other room with the switches. I can get everything else to.

>>650157
zero is the kind of anti-hero the franchise needed. he wasn't the promised hero as X aka megaman and suffered A LOT. he woke up during a huge war and had to beat enemies who were physically and mentally superior than his weak body

>>650104
>Do I need to get all 7 emeralds before I get to Mushroom Hill in order to get all the super emeralds?
I don't believe so, but I might be wrong.

>Is there any real difference between super sonic/knuckles and "ultra" sonic or whatever (7 emeralds vs 14)?
Yes.

On top of invincibility, greater speed, and greater jump height, Hyper Sonic can do a second jump like any of the elemental shields at any time.
Jump+up for thunder shield double jump.
Jump+left/right for fire shield dash thing.
Jump+down for bubble shield bounce.
Any time you do this, the screen flashes and all enemies on screen are killed.
Also, if I remember correctly, Super Sonic can drown and Hyper Sonic cannot.

Hyper Knuckles is pretty much regular old Super Knuckles except if you glide into a wall at a high enough speed, it will kill all onscreen enemies.
Also, same deal about breathing underwater as Super/Hyper Sonic, I believe.

Tails gets a super form with the Super Emeralds. He's invincible, moves faster (I think), and has four flickies that fly around him and automatically home in on and attack enemies.

Note that once you start going for Super Emeralds, you won't be able to change into your Super form since you give up the Chaos Emeralds.

>>650149
Get bomb+electricity to turn into a lightbulb so you can see shit in those rooms.

Weak final boss, but it's my favorite Contra. I haven't played the DS game.

>>649175
aaahh the kirby with the dark background story

>>649175
Holy shit I just booted up kirby 64 last night on the portable N64. Still a fun game even if it is laughable easy.

>>650168
Thanks for all that info.

>Note that once you start going for Super Emeralds, you won't be able to change into your Super form since you give up the Chaos Emeralds.

I'm saved on Mushroom hill right now as Knuckles, I have 6 Emeralds and 1 Super emerald. I'm ok at the special stages, but I don't know where to find them. I'll probably need to start over if I want all 14.

>>650202
m... mah nigga

I miss it so much

I miss my friends so much

>>650157
I hated Zero 1... In my opinion 2 = 3 > 4 > 1
Also not retro

>>650175
Not missing out on much. I didn't really find Contra 4 as hard as the others. However you DEFINETLY need to play Contra Rebirth. It's a Wiiware game, and I liked it just as much as I liked Contra 1 and Hard Corps.

>>650417
>find Contra 4 as hard
I meant as GOOD as the others. I thought 4 was the hardest... But it was kind of "obnoxious hard" isntead of "fun hard" for me.

>>650417
>>650424
I played Rebirth and I absolutely love it.

I'd go as far as to say I like it better than 3. It's like a true sequel.

Maybe I'm just bored of 3 though.

>>650435
Meidu robot is best contra

>>650965
google is fast

>>650138
Awesome game that still has too much scapegoating just because of the 2D vs 3D flamewars.

M-maybe someone else will agree with me this time....?

I like FF2, I really do. although it's hard, tedious and unforgiving at times. I mostly enjoy the setting, characters and the music though.

>>651076
>astroboy's 3rd game.jpg

you got me.

>>651076
I tought i was the only one that considered mm5 the best one of the original series

>>649748
It's certainly the easiest to play because you're not walking through fog or in dark areas all the time. I actually always knew where i was going in that game.

>>649282
Best game ever when coupled with Sonic 3.
>>649997
Never managed to go far but I loved it.
>>651076
This game doesn't get as much hate as Rockman & Forte.

>>650138
I still have it. I liked it mostly.

There never will be a sequel

>>655361
>Natsume

I'm interested...

>>655028
Yeah the hell is with people acting like it's "Not a real Megaman game"? It's gorgeous for an SNES title, has some nice music (if not as good as 7), and playing as Forte is awesome

Not the best of the series not by a long shot, but I really liked it. Everything aside Shitty controls, graphics, Tails Doll, this game could have been something. Music is pretty catchy too.

>>655482

I really like Sonic R. I honestly have NO idea why people don't like it.


Also, why the hell do people hate its music when it has some of the best music in the entire sonic franchise?

>>655373
its like a low budget zelda title. A very low budget title

>>655482
I love this game purely because of the soundtrack, none of this shitty 13 year olds rock music. Just pure cheese

Anybody who does not agree has shit taste. Which happens to be pretty much everybody.

>>650214
m-me t-t-too... ;_;

>tfw those times will never, ever come back

>>655627
i know that feel man.. game is forever ruined, that barrens... no heirlooms.. god tier music for zones. Awesome pvp..

>>657706
>Interns of Pan-Daily-a

>>657706
Good thing WoW isn't /vr/ material, so we can avoid the subject entirely!

On-topic:
Metroid Prime, Megaman Legends 2, Majora's Mask, Turok Rage Wars, FF9

>>657706
>>655627

The day I found out my Swift Rashazzi Raptor drop was just added to the game... I quit

>>657734
Wanna talk Warcraft II?

>>657739
Warcraft 2 was an awesome game. I spent many hours playing it, though I haven't played it in about a decade.

I believe that WC3 is better, but 2 will remain in a special place in my heart.

>>649175

Speaking of Crystal shards, saw this happening in Ebay AU

http://www.ebay.com/soc/itm/171036733786

Crazy price.

>>650138
Right there with you, bro. I played all of the NES games, Rondo, SCV4, SotN, Chronicles, Bloodlines, etc. etc.
I played them all.
I still like this one the most. Good atmosphere and fun platforming. It's not my fault if you think the controls are too hard.

Also this fucking level.

>>657865

I played MMII in and out, fuckin love it, high pitches music and all

>>649997
Shit, I love Urban Chaos. It gets retardedly hard towards the end when those nearly unstoppable Agent Smith guys show up. I remember fighting one across half the city, constantly staying out of his range, because the machine guns they carry can shred you to a pulp in a nanosecond. I never beat it. :( I'm thinking of picking up the DC version and giving it one more shot.

Anyway, here's mine. One of the top 5 beat'em ups I've ever played, and I played a lot. In America, this game is for some reason considered to be the black sheep of the series. I've no idea who started this nonsense, but it's complete bullshit. The only game in the franchise that's arguably better than GA3 is The Revenge of Death Adder.

>>650165
in the end

X became corrupted.. Lights creation failed

Zero became the Hero.. who was built to Surpass Mega Man and Take over the world thanks to Wily.

Weird isn't it?

>>655028
MM5 poster here, yeah. Probably right up there with MM5 in my opinion. and mm8

>>649175

I really wish more Kirby games would use the ability mechanics from Kirby 64. Somewhere in my mind is the perfect Kirby game combining Super Star and the ability mechanics from Kirby 64.

>>657865

because AUS version rare as shit obviously. Ive never seen a PAL copy IRL

I know it's not retro, but it needs to be said.

This game is 10 years old now.

>>649175
>kirby 64 is now considered retro

I-I don't want to get old /vr/ ;__;

>>650192
You don't need to start over. Once you complete the game your save file allows you to select your level, and from there you can continue to collect the emeralds.

>>650168
The double jump you are referring to on hyper sonic can be used in any of the 8 directions, but does not work like the fire, water or lightning shield.

>>659127
My freaking nigga.

>>659118
That was 13 years ago.
What the hell have you been doing with your life?

>>650174
Technically, that's what Kirby games where. But people had a hard-on for Superstar and they decided to go in that direction with the GBA and every game after.
Basically you'll never get another Kirby game with a super relaxing soft pallet and dark matter as a driving enemy.

>>659337
Lol, I loved those dungeons just filled with a bunch of sexy naked women you had to kill

>>649282
I usually always see them as the same game, but considering S&K is the better half of it anyway it's basically the same

>>650149
Cutter+Bomb and Fire+Bomb are probably my favorites. The exploding ninja stars are just too fun and the fireworks are op as fuck

>>650202
I play TBC on a private server, and Vanilla.

It's not the same...When can we learn that we can never go back?

>>649175
Super mario RPG

>>659719

what series would that be a part of?

>>649249
>>649301

Doom64 EX if anyone is interested. I've played it, it's basically flawless.

>>659729
The entire Mario series I suppose. .

>>659748

then that's fucking crazytalk. super mario rpg has gotta be real high up on the list of most overrated games ever. good god what a snoozefest.

it wasn't until I came to 4chan that I learned this is considered a bad game

seriously, me and my best friend must have spent a year memorizing every little thing about this game as we tried out all the little fun combinations of characters and abilities, and read all the manga gaiden shit that came with it (and boy is there a lot)

>>659774
The fuck is with all these propellerhead mathlord autism robots on this board shitting on charming SNES RPGs just because they're not some ridiculously over-engineered heroin dose of game mechanics

I'm already getting fucking sick of it

>>659784

i'm currently playing earthbound zero. now that's charming, and actually pretty fun for a jrpg. i found super mario rpg to be neither of these things. to each their own and all that, but that anyone could like that game better that the classic platformers blows my fucking mind.

>>659814
>comparing Mario RPG to the platformers
Apples to oranges, who the hell would actually do that? I at least agree with you on that

>Mother 1 more charming than Mario RPG
I love the shit out of Mother and you are baffling me. Mother 1 certainly has its charm and intimacy but it's very stiff and inaccessible. You don't think the grind and lack of dialogue hurts its charm?

>>659820

i dunno, just started. allz i know is i'm fighting a hippy right now, and this music if funky as fuck, and he told me my mother was calling for me, but i saw through his ruse, and now i'm pissed, and i'm gonna beat the shit out of this hippy with my plastic bat, and this shit is hilarious.

I don't get the hate on this game, I think it's one of the better ones.

>>659868

Why is that mushroom so happy
Mario is going to eat it
You're going to die mushroom
There are not happy times for you

>>659896
mushrooms can't smile retard clearly it's a false marking intended to scare away simple herbivores by mimicking a predator

I mean DUH

>>649175

>>661230
>inferior 64 version
Go play the one on the 3DO. Godsend...

>>655567
3D Zelda, I might have to give you.

As for 2D, that's not an Oracle game or Link's Awakening.

Kirby 64 was the first game I ever played, but..
Amazing Mirror blew my fucking mind

>>659493
Fireworks was my favorite as well. Just a big ol' fuck you to everything around you without any major commitment to the attack. I liked double needle as well.

>>661230

my neger

not retro

>>655567
Hated it. OoT is not my favorite game on Earth but MM can go suck a damn dick.

>>655567
>>661331
>>664932

My favorite. Dead serious too.

>>664932

Yes how dare majora's mask break the zelda formula and do something new and exciting for a change

>>664932
Majora's Mask I think is starting to become the overrated one. It's similar to the Megaman 2/3 case, with the sequel getting a free pass.

>>661331
This post reminded me of a girl I tried to date a few years ago that was enthralled with the Zelda series.

But then claimed the handheld games were just spinoffs and wouldn't touch Zelda II because it 'wasn't a real Zelda game'.

I don't have the best taste in women.

>>665047

Sorry to hear man. My wife loves the handheld Zeldas. She sees the appeal in the console ones, but doesn't have time to strap herself to a console for 20 hours... apparently.

>>664983
Overhyped maybe. Majora's Mask is still one of the most imaginative and daring little games Nintendo has ever put forth. For a company that tends to be so sanitized, doing that with one of its prime properties was really surprising.

But of course once you get people saying "This game is good, for X and Y reasons," you get a bunch of shallow folk going "YEAH WHAT THEY SAID I WANNA BE COOL TOO."

Again, the lack of articulation and analytic capacity among the gaming fandom is a problem.

>>657941
The control are good.

But the camera can be a pain, especially in combat.

>>649175
The only one I truly loved.

>>650202
Not /vr/

>>664983

I'd say it was a really big improvement in different areas from Ocarina of Time. Clock Town feels like a small town full of people who move around and have lives of their own. True, only the inn really has anything major going on in it, but the rest of the game moves to schedule and it makes the world feel more impressive and complete. Hyrule Castle Town's inhabitants were mostly faceless.

Plus I personally really liked the touch of the music in Clock Town speeding up each day.

Pretty ambitious for the time, even it was mostly made from scraps of the previous game.